Why is it that a woman has to say these things before people listen? I was a career soldier, and I've been saying them for 30 years. I was a Blackhawk pilot, and I OFTEN looked over at a woman in the other seat and thought; "If we go down, and she's compromised, I KNOW I can get her out of the cockpit and carry her to safety ... but if the situation is reversed, I seriously doubt she can get me out." It made me never want to fly with a woman. And there are MANY other issues.

@counttrossi8334

12 күн бұрын

Yep. I'm also a vet and I saw a confidence gap like that in a lot of military fields -- and the fact is, the really heavy, difficult, dangerous and distasteful tasks typically have to be done by the men. It's a VERY bad thing. The lack of trust and the degraded capability reduce combat effectiveness and introduce other problems. It all leads directly to needless friendly deaths on the battlefield.

@andrewprahst2529

12 күн бұрын

. . . .

@hubrisnaut

12 күн бұрын

ex- USN AT here, I been around some incredible female fighter pilots who are top athletes ( and will tell you right now, I was enlisted, you can't fly an aircraft in it's envelop unless you are an athlete, not happening) but they are unbelievably rare. 1 in a million. But even in them, with rare exceptions I have been a part of, the survival instinct isn't connecting. . But for us men, something kicks in on the edge, seems against all odds and it happens. . I think it is fair to talk about it.

@OpenHLZFocus

12 күн бұрын

Endearing "cold kitchen set" 🌟 very suitable for the guest... everything suggests a great interview and fire!!! 👩😻🔥🔥

@christelwilk6166

12 күн бұрын

@@hubrisnaut it not only fair, but absolutely necessary and important. BTW, this is a woman speaking and I am very much against women in combat, because there is a difference that cannot be overcome.

As a retired firefighter, that was my concern when I had a 110lb female firefighter needing to pull me out of a structure. I’m 230lb. Not going to happen.

@ComedianDinger

12 күн бұрын

As a current firefighter I fear this, as well as our guys not being able to climb two flights of stairs with gear on…

@flyo7789

12 күн бұрын

I had the same concern as a career soldier -- first as a tank crewmember and later as a pilot. And the reality is; even if she's 165 pounds and you're only 200 she still wouldn't be able to get you out, In fact, even if a man and a woman are roughly the same weight, the man will have more strength due to greater muscle density, a larger bone structure, and less adipose tissue. And that's before even mentioning the increased aggressiveness, endurance, and risk tolerance that come with having more testosterone.

@Melanie-ro6pl

11 күн бұрын

​@@ComedianDingerhonestly,, I'm curious to know... Would you say (from your view/experience) that That's the Majority of people/Soldiers today?? Or A Minority?... please lmk what you think and have seen personally. Because if that's the majority... then that's very scary and beyond concerning foreal.

@jonathanpersson1205

11 күн бұрын

@@ComedianDinger you need to have fitness and strength standards that eliminate anyone not capable of doing the job, if that standard prevents 70% of men and 99% of women from qualifying so be it. The police have a slightly different situation. Having 5-10% of the police force women is a good thing because the police have some roles that women are far better at. This includes body searches of women, interviewing rape victims or child victims of crime where a police woman is far less scary than a policeman. A lot of criminals will also confess things to a policewoman that they wouldnt admit to a man.

@JordanRClement

11 күн бұрын

Also the Physical ability tests are designed as pass/fail rather than who’s the most capable… scary.

As a female veteran, it's refreshing to hear women speaking up about the difference between men and women in the military. YES, women have a place in the service. NO, we do not belong in combat or direct engagement.

@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017

12 күн бұрын

What I want to know is how women were allowed in the first place when common sense and experience makes that obvious. I assume it was under Jimmy Carter or some other DNC president.

@dumbvedeoz

12 күн бұрын

WHY then ask for equality, when clearly men and women are not equal?

@dadymadass

12 күн бұрын

​@@dumbvedeozthat's from the 90'...now the sentence is no need for men😅

@mattmyers2624

12 күн бұрын

​@@dumbvedeoz You think it's the people who actually feel driven to be in the military demanding that are asking for "equality" - or is it this fascist government manufacturing an ideological mob who's telling them there are potentially infinite genders, and anyone can do anything? While doing other things to gut and weaken our military, other government institutions, and the greater economy-society. The top command of the CAF will be going through Nuremberg Trials for their complicity in crimes against humanity - but for now they are still in their positions of power because of the Trudeau-NDP fascist regime.

@KaloyanNachev1994

12 күн бұрын

@@dumbvedeoz It was obvious she's not one of those feminists. Why would you even ask that? Stop it with these Andrew Tate comments. If Jordan is teaching men anything, it is how to be a gentleman and take on the burdens of life. Embody that instead of assuming people's stances on things and attack them in order to portray how knowledgeable you are.

I love that sometimes Jordan has a lot to say, and that other times, like this, the guy listens with such a laser focused and thoughtful attitude. I get the feeling that he finds her utterly fascinating. She is

@camaleonsacor1618

11 күн бұрын

Yeah indeed, he is very quiet in this one. How couldnt he be? I would listen to this woman for days. So much energy omg.

@sebwoz8766

10 күн бұрын

Very respectful interview.

@journeywithin9155

9 күн бұрын

She’s such a great story teller. Very captivating.

@bobpark2779

7 күн бұрын

He didn't have much choice. She spoke as fast as Ben Shapiro.

@fractalmadness9253

4 күн бұрын

I believe this is the interview format where he also works as a listening therapist. That conversation he had with Jocko was also amazing.

In this interview Jordan was really in his element. It is clear to see that he is a brilliant psychologist!

@WilliamSmithRedundant

6 күн бұрын

Unless you're a Democrat. Then it's nearly impossible.

Jordan asking Kelsi whether her trauma was more related to the horrific incident or her resulting hatred is such a GENIUS question.

This has to be one of the best episodes so far. Her story is really inspiring. Bless her. May God continue to give her grace. 🙏🏽

My husband served 30 years in the Marine Corps. Unless you served, you don't understand the bond you form with your fellow soldiers, they truly become your bothers. My husband is 65 now, and it brings him joy to stay in touch with his fellow soldiers. Once a Marine, always a Marine 🇺🇲 Semper Fi.

The best episodes are always when Dr. Peterson only asks the right question succinctly, and let use listen to the interviewee as long as it takes.

Combat is a stark reality where the strongest, best-trained, and best-equipped forces prevail. Unfortunately, the simplicity of this formula for winning battles is often compromised by political considerations. Salute to all the combat Vets trying to find their way home.

@johnmalcolm3116

12 күн бұрын

Yes , very few politicians are aware about the ramifications military deployment incurs

@zaynevanday142

11 күн бұрын

@@johnmalcolm3116 and even less care 🔥

@johnmalcolm3116

10 күн бұрын

@@zaynevanday142 agree proven by the lack of funding to veterans care

@zaynevanday142

10 күн бұрын

Combat is 50% Training and 50% Luck 🍀

@thevet2009

10 күн бұрын

@@zaynevanday142 Luck is involved for sure..depending on the situation.

Helluva episode. Her discussion on TBI was extremely helpful because I've suffered tons of head trauma, and had no idea the symptoms I've been experiencing were caused by that. Now it's all making complete sense to me. Thank you Dr Peterson for creating and sharing this podcast.

She sums it ALL up on why the Standard is SOOOOOOO important. It's not so we all looked pretty together.

@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017

12 күн бұрын

Liberals want everything to look like a United Colors of Benetton ad and don't care what the repercussions are.

@michellereyes3484

2 күн бұрын

💯

I think this is one of Jordan’s greatest episodes. Thank you, Jordan. Thank you, Kelsi.

So vulnerable. Such strength. Lots of information to digest. Thanks Kelsi and Dr Peterson

I'm retiring early from the CAF after 23 years. I viscerally felt this interview and had to wipe away tears more than once. You are not alone and thank God, niether am I.

Hey Jordan, this is one of the best episodes you've produced in a long time.

I have had the privilege of interviewing this amazing woman on Think Unbroken Podcast. She's a great measure of both the power of the mind and the persuit of healing. Proud of you my friend.

@southboundguitar

12 күн бұрын

She’s a lying pos. Anyone who was actually over there can spot her tropes from a click away.

I don’t think Jordan has said less in an hour and a half podcast. If you find strong, tough, ambitious, driven and determined women attractive then this is your gal!

Two factors that stood out to me about woman in army was; 1 - The difference in strength. It's dramatic, like 1/5 the strength of a guy. Not just a minor difference. 2 - Way more prone to injury. Specifically, cracked pelvis's was common, just in basic training. Because the wider hips of a female are vulnerable carrying load under impact. It's a serious injury, common, can be permanently debilitating and it's never talked about much.

@paranormaldinosaur6036

11 күн бұрын

About the excessive weight of packs and how it affects the grunt The military overloads everybody's pack and the men and women suffer broken bones and permanent injuries from the excess weight of their packs The women and the men should be carrying 1/3 their body weight into battle and have mules, vehicles, or noncombantant battle buddies carry their most of their weapon and sustainment load into battle.

@innocentbystander8038

11 күн бұрын

You've obviously never been in the military. That is the most impractical suggestion I have ever heard.

@oausncacaonausnsasavasvnsuemau

11 күн бұрын

There should be requirements and the ones who are capable should be chosen. If they’re able how they look does not matter.

@innocentbystander8038

11 күн бұрын

​@@oausncacaonausnsasavasvnsuemau there are. Still lower than the guys, but there are minimum requirements. Even then, it was extremely rare for a female to pass out of the school of infantry. Quite frankly, infantry is a dirty, nasty horrible job. It's extremely rare for a female to even want to do it. So it makes no sense to target that demographic for recruitment.

@troymash8109

11 күн бұрын

It's not just strength. Women can't come close to our reflexes. I grew up next door practically to an Olympian female basketball player. I was twice as fast as her by age 10 or 11....

One of the best interviews you've done! This lady is extremely intelligent, diverse, creative, determined and such a role model just doing her thing! Wow, absolutely brilliant!

I so wish the “member exclusive” portion of this conversation could be made available for everyone to view. I was in tears listening because I so totally and completely understand what Kelsi was saying: her gratitude to you for being a heretic of our time (& J.K. Rowling, Helen Joyce, etc) and fighting a fight for our children and vulnerable adults. Such a powerful conversation. Just this week, my son in Grade 6 (11 years old) told me casually that his teacher taught/told the class what blowjobs are. I put a post on FB about it and only two women responded, both in favour of teaching children what blowjobs are. How has the world come to this? I cried later that night for the innocence our education system is robbing our children of but I was also so incredibly thankful to know that despite all our trials and tribulations of parenting that he knew he could speak openly and freely with me about it. He said there was one boy in the class who had no idea what it was and he said the look of shock on his face was so upsetting to witness. God help us all.

As a Canadian woman I am thankful to hear from a Canadian female veteran. Thank you all for your service ❤️

@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017

12 күн бұрын

She's annoying and narcissistic but a lot of what she's saying is true.

@MG-me7iw

12 күн бұрын

@@sherriflemming3218 Don't take the bait.

@southboundguitar

12 күн бұрын

She’s annoying and narcissistic, and everything g she has said is a lie. Tropes, even. Ask an actual veteran. Better yet, just read out comments.

@JulienDeon

10 күн бұрын

@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 feel free to elaborate on why YOU "THINK" this is so, she has not shown any of what you seem to "THINK" or "FEEL"

In the words of a guest from the Shawn Ryan podcast: "War sucks." While I forget who said that I'll never forget it. I'm eternally grateful for the men and women who fight on my behalf. Thank you for your service.

@jasonsenator6144

12 күн бұрын

That's true. And I'm not trying to be offensive but I need help and if I could join military for healthcare I would. Instead I get a felony for small amount of a fungus. Thanks for your service though I don't mean to take away from veterans getting help. It's just in USA we take away free healthcare for military

@sambobsam

12 күн бұрын

"war never changes"

@jackcaffrey8493

12 күн бұрын

War is easy , Life is hard

@johngreen4th891

12 күн бұрын

@@jackcaffrey8493 while I'm not aware of the position of life that your are in to say that, I imagine that "war is easy, life is hard.", Means that in war you know what you're fighting and who the enemy is this you can gain a sense of purpose and direction. But to live life unaided by a "bigger cause" can leave a person without a sense of purpose or direction. The difficultly in finding the meaning of life can be frustrating in addition the hardships that life throws us individually. With in that context, I agree, war is easy, life is hard.

@wendellbabin6457

12 күн бұрын

​@@jackcaffrey8493A Force Recon Marine I once knew, Korea (Chosin) and VietNam vet (where a lot of the "fun" was), told me once drowning sorrows after his third divorce and he couldn't remember how many breakups any more that war was a lot easier because at least there you could kill the people you could no longer reason with. And no, not stereotypical "crazy vet" by any means. Served with distinction in every campaign, probably won everything there was with exception of CMH with too many citations for his ribbons. Couldn't even wear all of them in his uniform. He called them his "greatest hits".

The level of honesty from Ms. Sheren is profound. This is exactly what is needed from all of us.

Canadian here... I love this listening to this lady and I'm so glad she's getting a bigger platform. Kelsi, I hope you run for office in Canada. We need people like you.

@southboundguitar

12 күн бұрын

😂

@southboundguitar

12 күн бұрын

Let’s ask her battle buddies what they think of her. Everything she’s said in these interviews has been fluff, common tropes even. She’s a liar. She’s grifting off of these idiots. Ask anyone who’s served, especially in combat.

@JulienDeon

10 күн бұрын

@@southboundguitar OH really? you know this to be fact do you? well then why don't you sate your credentials, and supply the factual evidence you have in regards to it so you can be the hero here and discredit her with truth? come on now we are waiting!

I just enrolled in the CAF, doing my hand on bible tomorrow. This is the first episode i've watched in its entirety since I've known JP (2021). Such a great conversation. I'll try to be a force for change in the CAF -- even though I signed a document that states I can get fired if I cause prejudice to the armed forces, I will speak truthfully about DEI with empirical evidence. Thank you for the conversation JP.

@adamhope8689

11 күн бұрын

Get out while you still can. All the good people have left the force. Good luck.

@VestaRoleplay

11 күн бұрын

@@adamhope8689 Thanks, I can't let Canada down like that. Born and raised, will die for the country.

@zaynevanday142

11 күн бұрын

@@VestaRoleplay why ? The TruDolf Government is giving it away to illegal foreigners

@JulienDeon

10 күн бұрын

wish you all the luck but sadly the first time you even show a hint of dissidence you will face disciplinary and possible discharge, your voice means nothing in there! you should have spoken with some of the recent hoards of active combat vets. you have signed yourself over to the state you are now their property!

@VestaRoleplay

10 күн бұрын

@@JulienDeon I'm currently studying to get into the military college to become an officer. I should meet the standards in 2 years. While doing so, i'm in the reserve to gain experience. But my point is, I understand i'm literally nothing when I enroll as a NCM. But, I want to be a force of change if I can graduate from military college. This is decades down, but I'm still committed to this mission.

God bless this woman, she clearly needs deliverance.

I feel like I've watched this entire episode on a single breath. Amazing person.

fabulous interview with a truly inspiring, courageous, wise woman.

I don' t remember last time I enjoyed this much somebody talking. Wow, she as person and her whole story are so interesting. Also, talking about social skills, amazing! ♥️

I'm a woman who served, but only briefly and never deployed. I also have been working with the military for the better part of a decade now. I read Kelsi's book a few weeks ago and hers was the first testimony about PTSD I was able to truly understand. I've heard others talk about their experiences and what happens after the physical danger has passed, and have certainly heard of service members committing suicide and never really understood. Kelsi made me understand, for which I am incredibly grateful. This understanding made me a better support for some people who are very dear to my heart.

This was great. She's a very good communicator. So grateful for these people.

A strong honorable woman! God bless you!✝️🙏🇺🇸

@jamesoheary3757

12 күн бұрын

@@saxon8981 You my friend, aren't supposed to tell the naive that. Leave them. They're a lower caste. Don't even contaminate yourself engaging with them.

@saxon8981

12 күн бұрын

@@jamesoheary3757 I'm beginning to think more that way

@southboundguitar

12 күн бұрын

A strong stench from that beat up split. She’s reciting common tropes that have been around the military for decades. She’s a liar and a grifter, and you’ve been hoodwinked. Ask her battle buddies what they think about her.

This is such an awesome interview. I am a woman with no experience as a service member but have great respect for our service members I am in awe after listening to her this was extremely eye opening. Yet another wonderful interview Jordan thank you

You can see how much better she has become since her first appearance on JRE or Lex a while ago. So good to see her loving life and spreading positivity around.

4:00 Thanks for this. I have worked in 5 different countries. Saudi, South Sudan, Nigeria, Northern Mexico. This stuff changes people. After having worked in the third world and listened to some who went through WW2 I have learned that character does not equal size. Matching size and character does not match many times. Many people who think they know what it takes have never worked in the third world.

As a former Canadian, I can understand the challenges she faces with Canadian politics, and I strongly advise anyone concerned to consider leaving before the situation worsens. When I was 40, I explored ancestry visas and ultimately decided to leave over 15 years ago. It's a decision I've never regretted; it's truly been the best choice of my life. 💖

@jrb_sland

10 күн бұрын

Your life, your choice. My sincere congratulations for acting based on your personal beliefs & feelings. I'm one of those people who have a weird bond with the place we were born, and I am now retired back to the same small B.C. town where I grew up as a child. Of all the [relatively] few places I've ever been in the world, it is the ONLY place in which I feel entirely comfortable - it is my HOME. To the end of my days I will fight to keep certain Canadian values close to my heart, and I will fight against such social diseases as DEI & the entire woke philosophical bundles of nonsense.

@Sweaty_Grandpa

8 күн бұрын

@@jrb_sland then trudeau will toss you in jail without a second thought and fly back to his troll cave on taxpayer money while laughing hysterically like demonic hyena. then he'll go eat half of a $700 dinner, throw the rest in the garbage and turn on the TV and laugh at all the peasants starving and overdosing in poverty on the street.

Peterson really knows what questions to ask and when to bring them up just to get an absolute feel of the answer that people are telling them!

Kelsie is a Canadian Icon and I respect her greatly. Maple Leaf Up

I was also a Tomboy bullied at school by mean girls and its quite damaging. Also hung out with the boys and enjoyed sports and was very good at it (played in the national hockey team). I have also had negative experiences in the workplace and think it has to do with competence and asking questions. I wish Jordan would do more about bullies, female bullies are a problem in society but because of how they operate it’s hard to pinpoint and we need to expose these behaviours. I also related to the part about transitioning, I think I would have because I sometimes wished I was a boy. I am happy to be a women and with who I am. Thanks for sharing stories of these strong women who often get labelled difficult in society because they are strong, honest and determined.

You know it’s a great interview when JP only has to ask a few well-framed questions. Not because I don’t like listening to JP, but because the guest is just that interesting

This is a tremendous interview. Thank you for sharing. Dr. Peterson thank you for interviewing this magnificent woman.

@southboundguitar

12 күн бұрын

She’s a lying pos. Read the comments from actual veterans if you want truth.

Powerful, thank you both.

Thank you for having her on! This was a fantastic conversation.

What a incredible woman, we need more like her..

Beautiful sister in Christ, thank you for sharing your story. The Lord God heals.. God bless 🙌 🙏

She's truly a beast of her own.

What an interview. I can’t turn this off.

Incredible story, so much respect for her. Hope life for her gets better and better every day.

Incredibly honest and vulnerable.

Saw Kelsi a while back on Triggernomitry. Fascinating lady and I bought her book straight after the interview. Fascinating stuff and a sobering look at what war actually is.

Been watching Kelsi for quite a while, great insight into the military mission does not consider the damage to their crew after the mission is over.

Amazing episode - as a veteran- total respect for Kelsi -

Thank you both for a more profound vision of something vastly unknown about a first-person vision of struggle, battle and resilience

This episode looks like it will be a "million-views" one. Captivating and gripping stuff. And JBP at one of his best - Clinician mode.

@dranreb1118

12 күн бұрын

YES. He's the best when he's on clinician mode. He gets too fired up when it's a political or cultural issue lol

Thank you both for walking through this incredible life story. What an amazing woman. Thank you Mrs Sheren for having served your country and keeping it a safe place with your life and dedication. All the very best to you and your family.

These personal testimony interviews are so valuable. The follow on, on The Daily Wire shocked me to the core God bless you Kelsi

@susanrichardson1176

4 күн бұрын

Yes the DW followup was even more intense... Astounding interview. Astounding and disturbing ... as truth can always be.

Ex combat engineer and French canadian. She is the kind of woman we need in the force, but the force dosent deserve us anymore.

@southboundguitar

12 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@willd7596

6 күн бұрын

No she isn't

Jordan thank you for having Kelsi on , It has been 55 years since I was in the military, but her experiences gives me some insight as to my own problems. Poor or No treatment from the "system" is much the same in the US VA. as what she describes from the Canadian system.

@wendellbabin6457

12 күн бұрын

The US VA is shameful. To me, anyone who advocates for "the government", who's ever, should run hospitals should have to volunteer in a VA hospital or nursing home or maybe both for about a month each. The way ESPECIALLY COMBAT VETERANS are treated is bordering on criminal. And that starts in Washington. I have said for years that qualifications for President should have military service in some form. At least. Preferably combat, but maybe exclusively would be too far. Not talking retired military either. Just serving period. Folks who have served are usually the last folks who want to start another one. Contrary to liberal myth. Only other option is to prepare and equip in peacetime so the "Bad Actors" can never, EVER, think it would be a good idea.

Sincerely, she's a brilliant lovely soul.

Dear Jordan, your abundance of knowledge is like a fountain of gold providing endless wealth of information!! Thank you thank you thank you

@aamirmajeed2040

12 күн бұрын

its not knowlege

@southboundguitar

12 күн бұрын

Yep. It’s just too bad that he wasted it on this liar.

I had a very strange dream last night. I've been having anxiety attacks lately. In my dream I met you Jordan in a parking lot I said hello. I don't remember much of the conversation we had I felt like you were being a therapist to me but I remember you hugged me and told me to trust and believe in God you were very sincere in the dream. But I've always believed in God & I trust him to help me through these attacks. May god bless you. All glory to the king!

Thank you for your service

The sheer quality of JP's content never ceases to amaze me. Thank you for all you do Jordan. Much love from Alberta!

As an ex IDF, thank you for this amazing guest.

Sis you are fire. So much extroversion even in every one of her gestures. Amazing talk. So many truths she has spoken.

This interview could be made into a film.

@ErnestStewart

11 күн бұрын

And it should be!

@Cop211

10 күн бұрын

Hell yeah

my heart feels cold and aching hearing these stories :(( i literally find myself holding my breath

Thank you for speaking Kelsi.

Fascinating story. Thank you.

Oh my God! Mr. Peterson thank you for lending your platform to a very important topic and strata of our population that society shuns. 1:57

@gregorywitcher5618

12 күн бұрын

Agreed with your comment but if you respect all the years of school he had to go through to be called Doctor, you should call him that, not Mister.

Women go through this in Law Enforcement as well. So glad to hear a wise woman speak on it.

Wow. What a journey through fire. Incredible.

Incredible! What Kelsi went through in the military is unbelievable, let alone her civilian life. What an absolutely fascinating person.

this made me cry alot. i'm from bc too. mother nature and your therapy will cure u babygirl

This woman is amazing! I LOVE her!

What a powerful conversation.

This channel has the best interviews ever.

What a spiritual journey! Wow, incredible.

I really like this person for sticking to their knowledge base and experience. I like her a lot.

Thank you for your honesty, transparency. Much needed.

Thank you so much!

Outstanding interview. Thank you!

Good job Kelsi, thanks for your bravery.

loved a clip of this from before. glad to see the full version uploaded.

well y’all I’m headed straight over to her podcast

Great conversation! Thank you Jordan, and thank her for her Service.

Very compelling stories. Thank you!

Thanks Dr. Peterson, it was a great podcast.

One of the best episodes ever. Jordan thank you for listening. You always know what’s best.

Amazing!! Absolutely amazing!

Nice to see JP in an empathic clinician role! As a Clinician it brought me to tears. Would be good once every 6 times, you know why…

Thank you for sharing your story. I’ve been considering psychedelics because I’ve tried the other VA options and I’m only authorized a year of any kind of treatment despite how long it takes me to trust. You provided a wonderful example of how they can be implemented successfully. I’m glad your path took you to the help you needed.

Kelsi your an angel. Jordan thank you.

What an amazing woman and an amazing story

This woman kicks ass! She shines with positivity and charm yet is the kind of tough that most men could only hope to be. You're a true survivor miss, and the world is a better place with you around!

I felt it when she said she can’t kill herself cause she got people who depend on her.

I can’t remember what point she said ‘good times’ after talking about getting hit over there… but it about brought me to tears. 10 years ago it would have triggered me. I said that exact thing for years after Iraq. People would ask me, and I’d talk about this or that extra fucked up situation over my 15 month deployment, and cap it with a jovial ‘good times’ … fuck… and crazy thing is that we got back in 2009… I’m still dealing with the pts

1) She had ADHD a child - which research shows is strongly linked to maternal stress. 2) She was probably funneled into marital arts as a way to disperse and harness her "energy" and "aggressiveness" 3) Her parents were "hardened" - maybe not so attentive to her emotional needs as a baby/toddler./young child. 4) She was placed in a rigid school environment which did nothing for her sense of "otherness" - she was bullied and not accepted by the other students - and not because of her haircut - that's just one of the things they latched onto. 5) She was deeply insecure. which she tried to overcompensate for by being a "tomboy" and excelling in martial arts 6) She has enmeshment with male authority figures 7) She was desperate to excel in a male dominated arena as a tiny insecure woman. What could go wrong? She was wired for mental illness from the jump and then it just played out. She's just lucky the THC./psychedelics didn't cause psychosis. Then she's be in a real mess.

@jazzy19001

11 күн бұрын

@@elmamotley7887 She resisted/evaded most his initial queries and had lots of "defensive energy" - I think that is why he just let her talk and didn't dive too deep - he knew she wasn't capable and that it could harm her progress her if he pushed her too hard, which is probably the right call as he is not her therapist.

@WigganNuG

11 күн бұрын

The problem with therapists like yourselves is the fundamental flaw in the overall approach; you CAN NOT medicalize or diagnose a human being and their lived experience. Bad therapists think they can do this. Sounds like a couple people here got butt hurt when their clan got attacked by a little woman who dared question your "authority". You're people failed to treat her; she found her own way and it worked, and you don't like that. I get it. ;)

@jazzy19001

11 күн бұрын

@@WigganNuG Modern psychology/psychiatry is based on the medical model - yes - it is not ethical for a licensed practitioner to treat someone or do therapy with someone without that framework. Bad therapists are people who discount or ignore science/neuroscience and other proper safeguards such as boundaries. . Are there limits to this model - yes. I did not hear where she said that she healed herself. I heard her praise her psychiatrist (medical model) and psychedelics which are currently being studied for there efficacy (medical model). She also expressed the importance of being supported by an empathetic and understanding peer group. I didn't hear her attacking a "clan". I heard her criticize the lack of resources provided to veterans in Canada - which is totally valid - and praise the medical model treatment she received in Texas. It sounded to me like she was asking for more medical help in Canada - not less.

@jamesnguyen7385

11 күн бұрын

@@WigganNuGIf you’re familiar with Carl Roger’s, this interview resembled how he would conduct psychiatric care. No confrontation, let them speak their mind and in doing so they will unravel their mind(this is my bad attempt at explaining Roger’s main approach). And it shows how Jordan was in the backseat in this interview. Compare it to most of his other interviews, he’s not afraid to cut off guests, but here it was nonexistent.

@jazzy19001

10 күн бұрын

@@jamesnguyen7385 I wouldn't describe his approach here as Rogerian. He asked clarifying factual question, but not clarifying emotional questions meant to encourage her to deepen her emotions. The degree of empathy he showed was appropriate for an fact based interview - but it was much less than one would see in a counseling session. He did not appear (from my point of view) to be doing therapy and did not cross over into that territory - he held the boundary between the two types of conversations. So why do you think he was less confrontational/interuptive of her?

Wow! Riveting. I was literally bawling my eyes out at times. I will definitely be buying her book.