In other words “they were hypocritical, which justifies me being hypocritical, which is why I’m not being hypocritical.” Great argument…

@comedycellarclips

Ай бұрын

What are you referring to? How many times did we both say the law shouldn't be passed? Sheesh.

Apparently it's antisemitic to stand up for the human rights of the semitic people of PaIestine.

The AAA (*I mean the new antisemitism bill) is insane. I say this as someone who isn't from the US, but it still seems insane free-speech wise.

@Tryunderstandingsarcasm

Ай бұрын

And when the people lose their freedom of speech in the end, they will blame it on the Jewish people.

IF it is passed and signed into law, it will be overturned at the first legal challenge. It is an unconstitutional infringement of the 1st Amendment on its face.

I'm a Jew and I do not support this bill. The reason is: I want to be able to criticize, e.g., female genital mutilation, the killing of apostates, the stoning of women for the crime of being raped, etc. If such criticisms are deemed 'Islamophobic' and outlawed, the world is not in a better place. Allowing the antisemitism bill to pass opens the door for similar bills outlawing criticisms of the kind just stated. Better to keep the lines of speech open, even if it's sometimes painful to do so.

@eemoogee160

Ай бұрын

💯

This idea that campuses have silenced pro Palestinian voices on campuses is pretty ridicules. Every year they lotteraly have apartheid week on campuses.

@Cleekschrey

Ай бұрын

As they should, right?

I think that it is important to define what constitutes hate-speech, as distinct from whether or not it ought to be permitted.

Idk a single Jew who supports this bill. Where the heck is this bill coming from?

@lesweizman388

Ай бұрын

im a jew and i support it you dont know many jews

@joseroshe1059

Ай бұрын

@@lesweizman388 I am a jew myself and am entrenched in many different kind of Jewish circles. You could have just stuck with your first sentence. Your second seems quite laughable.

@briandfox16

Ай бұрын

I don't support it, but the issue was that our most Elite University's were unable to apply Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 ("provides that no person in the United States shall, on the ground of race, color, or national origin, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any program or activity receiving federal financial assistance.") for the benefit of Jews, which our most Elite I.V. League University's admitted to in front of Congress. Title VI already protects Jews. This AAA bill sets forth examples that "may" be considered violations under the Civil Rights Act when University's endorse, support, or condone them. I think Title VI is perfect on its own and that we leave it to the courts to make determinations of what constitutes such university level bigotry against Jews on a case by case basis.

@eemoogee160

Ай бұрын

This is antiamerican and borderline fascist​@@lesweizman388

I really enjoy these clips man, from all the way out of Long Island I salute ya. That Aaron David Miller interview you did is a hidden gem btw.

Proud of Jewish voices for peace. Proud of Simone Zimmerman. Watch her movie 'Israelism' please. It will help you make sense of Noam's podcast; why he sings the praises of Sam Harris, author of 'in defense of torture', but picks a fight with Rashid Khalidi and the director of Human Rights Watch.

@eemoogee160

Ай бұрын

Respect 🙏🏽

Re: "49% of all faculty identify as liberal" Do we know what we mean when we say liberal? In the old sense of the word meaning support individual rights? Or does it mean justice warrior?

@eemoogee160

Ай бұрын

These slippery terms must always be operationally defined.

very much enjoyed this. shoutout to prof sachs for the discussion.

"They think i'm that guy." There are worse mistaken identities, so consider yourself lucky. Thanks for the self-affirming discussion.

Alright, hear me out… Why can’t the hypocrisy be the basis for a Title VI lawsuit? By which I mean, if you find an analogous example of speech being curtailed for one group, you can make the case for disparate treatment for another group. For example, Julian von Abele (2018) should be able to sue Columbia for racial discrimination if it can be shown they have allowed analogous speech by Black students. I’m all-in on unfettered free speech on campuses. However, in the case of private universities, they need to start compelling dialogue. They are in the business of free exchange and analytical rigor. I would require any group wanting to protest to publicly debate the opposition in order to get a permit. If you protest and then refuse the debate, you’re expelled. Likewise, any speaker is allowed, but they must submit to a Q&A session of pre-determined length after speaking. This should be a contractual obligation, ie you don’t get paid if you don’t participate.

literally every republican influencer disagrees with gay marriage on principle and they speak at universities all the time

@lesweizman388

Ай бұрын

and experience the heckler's veto almost every time

@srikantmantravadi

Ай бұрын

They absolutely do not "speak all the time."

@DianaHylandTX

21 күн бұрын

You can disagree with gay marriage, but you should NOT be allowed to promote genocide of all gay people. It’s not ok ever!

Sachs wants us to forget the hipocrasy? 😂😂Come on doggy

Thank you Noam.

Protests are against Zionism. Protests included Jewish students.

Are these guys recording this from the same library? LMFAO 🤣ROFL 😂 OMFG 🤯

@eemoogee160

Ай бұрын

Pretty sure one of them is a fake background

That IS the fiction Noam. Spot on boytchik

I don't see how it isn't antisemitic to say Israel shouldn't exist. You would have to have a complet misunderstanding of what antisemitism means to not think that is anti-Jewish. That is like saying saying America shouldn't exist isn't anti-American. I don't dislike Italians but I don't think their country should exist. Makes no sense. The problem here is one people don't understand the complexities of antisemitism nore do they understand the deep connection with Judaism and the land of Israel and Judaism and Zionism. They are deeply intertwined.

@eemoogee160

Ай бұрын

Actually, Jews have prospered outside of Israel and will continue to do so. Being against an ethnostate on principle is the furthest thing from bigotry.

@eemoogee160

Ай бұрын

The irony is the racist aspect of Israel intended to protect it is what makes it so vulnerable.

@sandrajayne5446

28 күн бұрын

There's the rub. 🇸🇩🇸🇩

There is no sound

@comedycellarclips

Ай бұрын

Is it working now?

Eh, is there literally no audio on this?

@comedycellarclips

Ай бұрын

Is it working now? I'm hearing sound

@drab1711

Ай бұрын

Yup! Thank you!

@bluecoffee8414

Ай бұрын

​@comedycellarclips it works now

Oh. A different Jeffrey Sachs.

@eemoogee160

Ай бұрын

Wonder if this one also endorses Jill Stein of the Green Party 💚

@paigemccormick6519

Ай бұрын

@@eemoogee160 By coincidence, I just heard the other Sachs say he will vote for Green as the only 'peace party.' I'm not Green; I'm very conflicted about my vote. What about you?

@eemoogee160

Ай бұрын

@@paigemccormick6519 I already support the Green Party so I'm excited. Just wish Sachs was taken seriously in the mainstream media.

Norman for President 👍🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱

@user-yo6oc2vs5s

Ай бұрын

Sorry, I meant Noam for President 😊

@eemoogee160

Ай бұрын

​@@user-yo6oc2vs5sTrust your Freudian slip

Noam, when are you going to admit you were wrong, and Finkelstein was right, on the question of Israel starving the Palestinians?

@oh_k8

Ай бұрын

He had a reporter on not too long ago that israel was inadvertently doing a poor job of cutting the red tape to get aid in but not doing it intentionally.

@mayonaden

Ай бұрын

@@oh_k8 Yeah, the Israeli dude who didn't address any of the reports whatsoever and basically just said it's not intentional because vibes.

@oh_k8

Ай бұрын

​@@mayonadenit seemed that Noam found this answer satisfactory tho.

@mayonaden

Ай бұрын

@@oh_k8 Lol, I wonder why that might be.

@oh_k8

Ай бұрын

@@mayonaden I know but I like to see both points of view and am thankful he does this show even if he is admitted to be of the zionist view.

You two are painting with a broad brush. Both sides are being hypocritical. And before you say that you take a principled stand there are people on the other side who take a principled stand as well. So nice try buddy.

Why you only bring one side of the Israeli/Jewish side of the debate what happened to the conservative point a view?? Caroline Glick, GadiTaub(Israeli) Ben Shapiro,Mark Lavin(American Jew) are you not tired of the echo chambers?

@comedycellarclips

Ай бұрын

LOL, you think the left is my echo chamber?

@noahghost4476

Ай бұрын

​@@comedycellarclipslove you dude. Other guy does too and was just unclear.

@joseroshe1059

Ай бұрын

@@comedycellarclips I would love for you to bring on more right win Pro Israelis to debate too. I do think it's absurd to say that you live in an echo chamber. Nothing could be further from the truth. You brought on Norman Finkelstein for crying out loud. Jesus.

@stevensica5918

27 күн бұрын

Caroline Glick of blackface Obama video fame. Lives in Israel BUT I guarantee you that she has always tightly clutched her USA PP.

Stick to comedy. Ffs