Did anyone else notice the difference in emotional maturity between the two...not to say anything about intellectual ability.

@Hunn1313

7 жыл бұрын

Quite a bit. Mr. Harris was speaking to an arrogant child. Cenk is embarassing, unwilling to listen. Cenk just waits for his turn to speak; most of the time not waiting but rudely interrupting.

@yoboychilli8173

7 жыл бұрын

at least cenk is not as bad as the emotional ben affleck

@FilterBySubgenre

7 жыл бұрын

true

@g0vinda337

7 жыл бұрын

Yea Sam Harris acts like a 5 year old. Everytime you see a Sam Harris video he has to spend a half hour defending himself. Watching Harris speak is like watching Donald Trump.

@alexistousignant722

7 жыл бұрын

Trying to get other people to understand you should have the highest priority in a discussion. With Cenk constantly ignoring points he made, that did already answer his question, Sam had no other choice but to elaborate on his ideas and stands on certain issues. If there was someone that acted like a 5 yeah old, it would sadly be cenk here...

Cenk looks very emotionally invested in protecting Islam.

@vladnigmo6785

9 жыл бұрын

Vlad Nigmo the whole conversation is like intellect trying to talk with emotion :)

@aucourant9998

9 жыл бұрын

Vlad Nigmo He was raised a Muslim. So, it's very difficult for him to over-come the brainwashing.

@olie171

8 жыл бұрын

Vlad Nigmo I know why this fat fuck endlessly defends Muslims. He might be agnostic but his parents and other family members are Muslims so he has a soft spot for them. His so called "progressive" point of view is so one sided and when he describes himself as a liberal, he made a fool out of himself. Have you ever seen him this passionate and angry when he talks about Other religions? I think Cenk should come clean and be honest about his true

@Vickytoriahirt1234

8 жыл бұрын

Vlad Nigmo Because his family is Muslim. His mother is a Muslim and everything.

@MadGunnerO_o

8 жыл бұрын

***** yes

As a Historian, I do need to make some corrections regarding both Cenk's and Sam's remarks about the Middle Ages. Cenk in particular seems to have been greatly influenced by TV documentaries, which unfortunately depict Europe's Middle Ages as an extremely bleak, barbaric and bruel time. This is largely a modern spin, however, as Sam pointed out. Contrary to Cenk's assertion, Europe DID have libraries; many of them in fact. One of the largest and most famous medieval libraries was that of the monastery of St. Gallen in Switzerland. It still exists today and it can be visited (it's a really beautiful place). Medieval libraries were private but this was equally true for the ones found in the Arab world. Public libraries are a very recent phenomenon in world history. Europeans also founded universities as early as the 12th century. The late Middle Ages in particular were a time of great learning and innovation. To claim that all the Christians back then were fanatics is ludicrous. There was an entire class of clerics who were really pious but ALSO very interested in the natur al sciences, medicine, engineering etc.. Today we call them scholastics. Scholasticism was highly influential in the history of science and philosophy and the Renaissance likely wouldn't have been possible without it. The Middle Ages also weren't as cruel as is often believed today. For example medieval people did NOT burn anyone at the stake. There were no witch hunts. All of these events happened during Early Modern times (16th-18th c.). Even the inquisition didn't really get going until Early Modern times. This is important because something significant happened right at the end of the Middle Ages: the reformation. Contrary to popular belief, it was the Protestants, NOT the Roman Catholic Church, who harbored deeply sexist, anti-semitic and otherwise toxic beliefs. This actually makes sense when you look at what these people preached. All the famous Protestant preachers used the phrase "sola la scriptura". Today we'd call them religious fundamentalists because this is literally what they were. They believed that only the Bible mattered and that it should be interpreted to the letter. The most radical of these religious zealots called themselves Puritans and ended up moving to North America. This is another common misconception about history by the way: the Puritans weren't pushed out of Europe. In fact, most European kingdoms at the time (and the UK in particular) treated them with a great deal of tolerance. The UK under Elizabeth I. even enacted some protections for Jews, so why would they hunt down fellow protestants? In truth, the Puritans WANTED to leave because they couldn't stomach the liberal values in Europe. They moved to North America specifically so they could build their own little theocracy over there, being sure that no one would bother them in their fanaticism. Lastly a word about anti-semitism during the Middle Ages: while anti-semitism doubtlessly existed, Historians generally differentiate between structure and events. It's important to do so because if we don't, we get a very twisted view of the past. For example natural catastrophes were singular events, they weren't structure. Now, in the case of anti-semitism, pogroms did occur but they didn't occur every day or even every year. Let's not forget that we're talking about a time spain of 1,000 years here! Not every person in the Middle Ages was a raging anti-semite; in fact, the overwhelming majority probably wasn't. People in the past weren't different from us today, they had just as much empathy and love as we do. People did have far less information back then of course but nowdays we've got a lot of fake news. In my opinion, religion certainly contributed to anti-semitic pogroms but it wasn't the decisive factor. The decisive factor was the lack of law enforcement. If 200 neonazis today would try to commit a pogrom in Cologne, the city government would immediately call on their police force and perhaps the federal government would even call in some military unit. Medieval cities did not have this option, so once a pogrom got going, there was very little anyone could do to stop it. And while it is true that Jews were prohibited from taking on various jobs, which is doubtlessly anti-semitic, they often excelled in fields such as medicine or trading, where they were usually highly respected by their Christian peers. So, it's important to be very nuanced about these things.

@declanbrown5056

3 ай бұрын

This was a very insightful and interesting read, thank you for sharing! Out of curiosity, do you have any material like books or fact based historical websites you would recommend to someone like myself whos not very knowledgeable on these things?

@TrunksG-or4s

3 ай бұрын

All that shit for 5 likes

@SADGOD633

2 ай бұрын

@@TrunksG-or4swell it’s 9 so it’s worth it..

@Anacaona92

2 ай бұрын

Gem 💎

@placebojesus5652

2 ай бұрын

@ConnorGrayaon-or4sy @SADGOD633 Now it’s 10 likes so I think he’s finally got enough likes to feed his family and live in peace now and forever.

Holy crap this is 9 years old and literally nothing is different. This is so depressing.

@welliamd2463

Ай бұрын

yup, now he thinks nazis were benign...

@LuigiMordelAlaume

Ай бұрын

​@@welliamd2463I just heard around 30% of evangelicals believe they'll have to resort to violence to maintain America. I wish we had stats about how many Germans voted for the Nazi party when Hitler rose to power... I wonder if it's a plurality of support around 1/3rd...

@motorhead48067

19 күн бұрын

@@welliamd2463He said Nazism is benign by comparison to Jihadism. If we’re being remotely charitable it’s pretty clear that he was just trying to say that Jihadism is worse than Nazism, not that the Nazis were literally benign. I mean let’s use our thinkers for a second here; you really think Harris thinks that the Nazis were benign despite everything he’s said in condemnation of them and of the Holocaust? Come on now brother. The very fact that he’s using Nazism as his point of comparison with Jihadism in and of itself tells you that he thinks Nazism is bad.

I think it's very racist how Sam Harris mops the floor with Cenk.

@Clifton100

8 жыл бұрын

HAHaaaaah

@teotop958

8 жыл бұрын

My coffee came out of my nose...

@Plutonia001

8 жыл бұрын

That's gross, that's racist!

@MuckaRoomi

8 жыл бұрын

haha great one!

@devinnicolle3791

8 жыл бұрын

+Robert J Barnes I love this comment

Who lets Cenk debate? He just embarrassed himself!

@julie-mt2xr

8 жыл бұрын

Disagree. Sam contradicts himself the entire conversation, not to mention his stammering every other sentence.

@fredthemanish

8 жыл бұрын

+Julie Irvin sam rarely ever stammers, he is definitely one of the most articulate people alive, cenk keeps saying dumb shit and it throws him off.

@ephilbin

7 жыл бұрын

Can you point out where Sam Harris contradicts himself? I'd like to see your point.

@nicholew350

7 жыл бұрын

A genius... People watch these videos just to see him make a fool of himself. Doesn't TYT make money off view counts? Someone is making bank off of his stupidity. I still believe he thinks he's winning though.

@marishanameyer6132

7 жыл бұрын

Actually he did not at all. I have noticed this with atheists before they do not think for themselves, they think like dawkins or Harris...etc...just as bad as religious people really.

I don't believe at all that Cenk is failing to grasp the various criticisms that lie unique in Islam, he is simply practicing selective-ignorance and defending it out of favour for his mother culture and even says as much early in the interview.

@mohamudhersi8850

15 күн бұрын

If we talk barbarism it is more of christians than muslims. It is in the Quran that you get if you kill a human being is as though you are killing the whole of humanity. When Jews are persecuted in the hands of christians it is muslims who always protected them. What islam is against for instance immorality, abuse other people and kill other without a reason. It is absurd someone like Sam Harris to defend west and attack. When Muslims ruled the holy land they protected all people who live in Holy. Later when christian crusaders captured they killed almost all people in the town regardless of their religion Muslims, Jews etc. When later Salahudin Al Ayubi conquered he did not kill the people in the town regardless of their affiliation. Look today what christians are doing in support of zionists persecution of the Muslims in Palestinians. Therefore, when you compare the followers of the two Muslims are superior in terms of high moral ground compared to christians. Christian UK and USA (christians) who we can not finish the atrocities you have done to the other non christians communities in the 20th and 21 cenntury. Start colonialisation of other people, viatnam war, Middle east disaster, Afghanistan onslaught (20 years of atrocities), continued support of apartheid zionist state and so on and so forth. If we compare as whole people Muslims were always more peaceful than christians. That is fact.

Cenk is like: "But the christians killed a lot more people than muslims!" Sam is talking about the doctrine, which is fundamentally different. Straight lines from doctrine to behaviour. That's the key here that Cenk doesn't seem to be able to understand, because he takes it personally. He says he isn't muslim (religiously), but he is a muslim culturally, which is why he can't resist to feel insulted by Sam's explanations.

Sam lays out clear concise arguments, none of which are bigoted or racist. His points are data driven and relevant to today's world. He is indeed considering all sides of the argument. Cenk continually sets up straw-men of Sam's position, as many have done. If you rationally consider Sam's position and carefully listen to his wording they make a lot of sense.

@heyhey89674

9 жыл бұрын

He lays out clear and consice arguments many of wich are wrong, like the idea that the Syrian or Iraqi people would care if ISIS soldiers died in an airstrike. What they do care about, as we have seen in dronestrike tormented areas, is if their familymembers die and civilians. The fact that Harris seems to ignore this is yet another idication that this guy is taken way to seriously and doesnt know what the hell he is talking about.

@markhermanson2046

9 жыл бұрын

Auraruth8 He explains clearly how bad he thinks collateral damage is. Did you watch the whole thing?

@D3nchanter

9 жыл бұрын

Auraruth8 Mark Hermanson The problem I have is that Cenk really can't understand sam's VERY simple point about doctrines having straight lines to how people behave and how christianity and islam are not the same.

@markhermanson2046

9 жыл бұрын

Denchanter357 Right, he corners Cenk on this point twice. 1. Why aren't the Christians in Palestine participating in the violence, they are in the same socio-economic position. 2. Why do we take a person at their word when they claim to have committed crime for material reasons, but some dismiss it when they give a religious reason. They both agree on most of it .. it seems they disagree as to what weight all of the environmental, political, economic, religious, mental, and societal factors hold. Fine, they can all play a role.. but it's only religion claiming to be the one and only solution, the system that claims to trump all other factors.

@st105900

9 жыл бұрын

Mark Hermanson Denchanter357 i think cenk clearly understand sam's premise of beliefs leading to action. and sam does make logical conclusions based on this premise, which however are wrong. not because he got the premise wrong, but because his premises are insufficient. as a counter-point to your question, if doctrine leads to behaviour, then i find it logical to ask why there hasn't been any muslim voilence in USA? here is a thought experiment, i hope you will be honest with yourself: if all the muslims in middle east suddenly by some miracle renounce islam right now, do you think the violence would stop tomorrow? the honest answer is no! i find cenk's point of view more nuanced. it seems to me that harris is so engaged in his own thoughts that he forgot that some of his writings are squarely in a political arena. and there are much better political analysts of the middle east than harris. also being irreligious or being an atheist is not equivalent to being an islamophobe.

This was not a proud moment to be a Turk...

@SuperTyler53

8 жыл бұрын

true

@kennyphelps1160

8 жыл бұрын

And anytime anyone with any kind of intelligence or IQ ends up debating any of your young Turk friends it will not be a proud moment for you look forward to this happening anytime and intellectual is brought on the show your panel simply isn't up to the task of dealing with the higher intelligence

@rajkoelguapo12

3 ай бұрын

lol

Hitchens would not have bothered with Cenk

@Nostalgicrecollections

3 ай бұрын

Facts

The ridiculous thing about this interview is that Cenk actually believes he has the upper hand and is outwitting him. It's amazing how oblivious he is to how badly he got beaten. It's like he can't stop being smug and conceited, regardless of how foolish he looks.

@Barwinsb

8 жыл бұрын

that is a personality flaw that Cenk has even to this day. He doesnt do his homework before a debate, and when he runs out of things to talk about he resorts to character attacks. so that means this was 2hr 59min of character attacks.

@RobertJBarnes

8 жыл бұрын

He knows how to draw attention to himself. He's louder. He speaks energetically. He cuts of the other speaker. We wins all the shallow stuff. But if you listen, Sam cleans his clock.

@RobertJBarnes

8 жыл бұрын

Sam Harris fancies himself a liberal but Cenk has since called him a fake liberal . . . SH does argue like a sedated Shapiro. Logical and fact based but without the 5 cup coffee buzz. Cenk uses emotions and body language. I'm slowly being pulled from being a liberal to a principal based conservative.

@Barwinsb

8 жыл бұрын

come to the dark side. all answers become clear with a sound foundation of principles of the founding fathers and a clear moral compass of non-aggression.

@JayPlaysModern

7 жыл бұрын

Regressive liberals hate being called out by classical liberals.

Sam Harris: The Sun is hot. Cenk: I agree and disagree and this is why.

@iMarimbaFTW

7 жыл бұрын

Cenk: Well, you're not even mentioning the military. Sam Harris: ...What? Cenk, we're talking about the sun.

@ManserJordan

7 жыл бұрын

Art'uro TM could not agree more

@SwagWagen

7 жыл бұрын

Sam Harris: The sun is hot. Cenk: Why yes sam, it is hot. Everything is hot. Heat is the random motion of atoms a vibration. Its only hotter, relative to us. To a supernova it would be cold. Its all relative...a mixture. How it really went.

@Skindoggiedog

7 жыл бұрын

SwagWagen (incorrect spelling, btw) didn't even watch the video. He didn't even watch it. Did not watch the video. Yet here he is telling us how it went. Tell me that's not amazing. That there exists a human being that could spend their time doing such a thing.

@Fetidaf

7 жыл бұрын

Skindoggiedog, his name is a play on words with "Volkswagen" i believe, so its the the correct spelling and not relevant to any discussion thats currently happening in any way/shape/form, back on topic now... I think that's a very accurate assumption of how the hypothetical argument would have happened...

What an enlighting discussion. Do it again!!

Sam Harris is so good at remaining focused and on point within the context! I wouldn’t be able to remain as calm as he was 😆

@slove102784

4 ай бұрын

He’s evil

@gammagongetya8967

4 ай бұрын

​@@slove102784not an argument

@davidzeto2446

4 ай бұрын

It would seem he's so calm because he approaches everything with a rather juvenile academic conception of reality without a lived understanding that dry logic does not apply to anything.

@MaxPowers2.0

3 ай бұрын

@@davidzeto2446…yes because juveniles are KNOWN for being calm.

@davidzeto2446

3 ай бұрын

@@MaxPowers2.0 there are no real lived in stakes for him. So yeah, he has a juvenile conception of things albeit in an ostensible mature (I would proffer morose) tone.

LOL the number of times Sam Harris spends 5-10 minutes trying to explain a complex point of argument, Cenk utterly fails to understand it, and Harris just facepalms silently and says "Let's move on..."

@anetteedington4355

8 жыл бұрын

because cent is an idiot

@BarrelShape

8 жыл бұрын

Samantha Brenner He's been completely consistent on this issue. If you read his books, you'll recognize the same arguments as you see him using here. The true hypocrisy is that after hearing (and claiming to understand) all of these arguments from Harris himself in the three hours he generously granted to TYT, Cenk continued to slam Harris WITH THE SAME MISREPRESENTATIONS OF HIS VIEWS THAT HE WAS ATTACKING BEFORE THE INTERVIEW. it's absolutely baffling - until you realize that maybe Cenk really is too dense to be able to wrap his head around the actual arguments Harris is making.

@SuperCatTime

8 жыл бұрын

+Anette Edington Fiddy?

@christopherceasar5353

8 жыл бұрын

lol just trolling everywhere.

@benbourke7353

8 жыл бұрын

"Ok Sam well now I'm going to tell you why I think you're wrong".

Cenk Uygur is maddeningly obtuse in this interview, seemingly determined to misunderstand well-explained distinctions and showing a disregard for the accurate representation of his guest's views.

@gavrielkostonov1234

9 жыл бұрын

I lost the very little respect I had for Cenk Uygur long ago. For all the self-righteous pomp he gives off when speaking on human rights, he has taken the position that the Armenian Genocide never happened. A self proclaimed Liberal that takes the same position as the current Turkish regime is most suspect.

@TheMuskokaman

9 жыл бұрын

This is what happens when you play football or pro boxing. ;-)

@rationalagenda7083

9 жыл бұрын

from what I understand, Harris isnt expecting everyone to agree with his ideas on Islam, but what he does expect is to be able to raise issues for mature intellegent discussion without hysterical reactions. He has a point - very well illustrated by Affleck

@NathanielHarari

9 жыл бұрын

I actually took a couple of notes of things which occurred to me during this discussion, but I haven't written it up yet. I'm not sure if I will, but it made some things very clear to me while watching it.

@NathanielHarari

9 жыл бұрын

***** Thanks. Not sure it's really worth my time though. Most people here know my opinions already and I'm not certain most want to hear me repeating myself. :)

It’s not about whether the Koran or the Bible has worse stuff in it, it’s about whether or not (or what fraction) of its followers adhere to that belief. That is the point they should be discussing.

Watched the full 3 hours. It's fantastic! I enjoyed every minute.

Am I supposed to like for Sam Harris or Dislike for Cenk ?

@MrSmertnick

8 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly!

@Rellikan

8 жыл бұрын

Not a conundrum at all. The liking system in KZread is flawed when it comes to these types of videos because in this situation Cenk gets benefit when you like the video for Sam Harris or for Cenk. If you liked the whole discussion then I suppose you should like simply because Cenk's organisation made this particular discussion possible and comment here why you disagree with him.

@Rellikan

8 жыл бұрын

Yes, it's highly likely he probably will never read most comments here because there's too many. What is it you are trying to convey?

@Rellikan

8 жыл бұрын

I don't think he was a complete failure. If enough people see your view some will upvote it.

@chibhatt24

8 жыл бұрын

Yes.

The intellectual distance between these two men is quite astounding.

@NRGFL0

7 жыл бұрын

It's like watching a football player discuss islam with a scholarly person... oh wait...

@iDalisMediaTV

7 жыл бұрын

I disagree, in fact Cenk continues throughout the interview to rephrase and wrap his questions up for the audience, he may have to work on his expressive wide eyed nature which lends itself to you thinking he may not be as intellectually prowess as Sammy boy....but I disagree. He in fact as the interviewer, has a much greater burden than Sam since he has to carry the interview, keep the pace, know the next question, listen in the moment and keep the audience informed all at the same time. Which is alot harder than it looks.

@danieljohansson3082

7 жыл бұрын

Watching this discussion made me feel like Cenks mom must be his dads cousin.

@Thegrandvoodoo

7 жыл бұрын

+iDalisMediaTV Hosting an interview is a sign of intellectual prowess? do you know how dumb that is? something tells me that you would be unable to think your way out of cardboard box.

@kevinparsley6806

7 жыл бұрын

One of them is trained in philosophy, where one class would teach focus on truth values and how to construct arguments. Frankly, some of the arguments, while valid are not constructive. The goal of those arguments are clearly to illustrate that divide, and ultimately to discredit.

Sam has patience of the saint.

@Anof2

Ай бұрын

Myyyyyyyy God. He came on here to defend being misrepresented and this interviewer spent the entire time saying “but Sam” and actively misrepresenting what Sam is saying. I’d leave after the 72nd time he did that to me. Sam stayed through all 417 attempts.

How can anyone take Cenk seriously? He’s an embarrassment sitting oppoosite Harris.

I'm surprised that Sam still has hair by the end of it. I would have torn all of mine out.

Fuck sake Cenk, that probability bit was embarrassing.

@DuaneRich321

8 жыл бұрын

+Macro Lux Haha YES! I smacked by forehead..

@kgr6438

8 жыл бұрын

+Macro Lux No kidding. I usually like Cenk, and good on him having the conversation, but on the whole it was a little embarrassing. He raised good issues to talk about, but couldn't concede the points he lost

@Luxmans

8 жыл бұрын

+The Troublemakers Cenk made aa rudimentary factual, mathematical error. It wasn't about opinions, that's why it was embarrassing.

@RicoSeattle

8 жыл бұрын

+Macro Lux Where in the video was the probability bit? I can't remember where it was.

@Luxmans

8 жыл бұрын

+RicoSeattle at about 18 mins

Sam: We gotta think deeper. Cenk: error 404.

@brutallyhonestfreespeech9062

5 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately that is what happens when pseudo-intellectuals talk with intellectuals.

@rileystewart9165

5 жыл бұрын

I think Cenk is smarter than average, just not in Sam's Domain. Also you can obviously tell Cenk is intimidated based on his hands, face and posture. This can make it harder to demonstrate your views.

@brutallyhonestfreespeech9062

5 жыл бұрын

@@rileystewart9165 Well, I'd argue that he is more knowledgeable than average, not 'smarter'.

@rileystewart9165

5 жыл бұрын

@@brutallyhonestfreespeech9062 certainly more knowledgeable. No question.

@brutallyhonestfreespeech9062

5 жыл бұрын

@@rileystewart9165 His TYT is also paid for and funded by globalists with specific political interest. I have no doubt that they give him certain knowledge that he must know for certain topics. He was essentially a lawyer who studied management. This also contributes to his ability to think clearly on certain topics, regardless of how ignorant he chooses to act about certain things that people such as Sam Harris talks about here.

I can’t believe this was 9 years ago. You guys gotta do this one again today. Very smart and fair points here

@extremeresponsibility4325

5 ай бұрын

Cenk is unable to listen or think. So limited.

@googglecom

5 ай бұрын

lol actually false Sam here is being delu and think 1.8 b Muslims want holy war. It is absolutely ridiculous.the fact of the matter you can just this whole convo with a verse in the quran that states you can only wage wars for out of self defense. lol. literally the worst out of Sam and I am Ahiest so keep crying @@extremeresponsibility4325

@Crazy88277

5 ай бұрын

Yup I’m a leftist too and don’t regard myself as terribly intelectual but I know well enough when I should be listening and thinking about what is being said. Unfortunately cenk can’t do either. I doubt Sam Harris will agree to give his time to this frustrating individual but who knows. The conversation was hopefully instructive for ppl who follow cenks way of thinking and perhaps changed the paradigm for them a bit.

@TshaajThomas

4 ай бұрын

What do you know, diamond girl?

@heikki1623

4 ай бұрын

Yeah. But also the things Cenk said.

The humiliation of Cenk Uygur

@lizjoe21750

7 жыл бұрын

If only Cenk knew he was being humiliated, and/or admitted it. Now THAT would be a sight to see!

@jimmeshtick8908

7 жыл бұрын

Ooooooooofcourse! 🍔🍟🍕🍝🍗🍩🎂🍰🍮🍫😵

@chadyd99

7 жыл бұрын

This was borderline like having a conversation with a 5 year old for Sam Harris.

@FutureAndFinance

7 жыл бұрын

ahahaha

@alecjkrueger1

7 жыл бұрын

It seems his only desire is to disagree, so many times he agrees then disagrees with little BS side points..

Cenk seems unwilling to give Sam an inch in trying to understand what he's actually saying. Could have been a much more effective dialogue if he had attempted to do so.

@Nycad2k

9 жыл бұрын

***** Dude, look at all the other comments. For the plurality of top comments, the initial remark is responded to germanely. But because she's a woman, you disregard the content, and only compliment her on her looks. I'm not down with the whole micro-aggression, SJW froth, but jesus, at least establish a pretense for your trivializing response. :\

@98bigbutt

9 жыл бұрын

I saw clips of this video and as a TYT fan, I was disappointed with Cenk and his ultimately cutting off Sam Harris' points of view with the truth of these Islamic Jihadists are causing the most trouble in this world through mass murder and avoiding the topic to not accept the realities of these atrocities. Good job Sam Harris.

@TayyyKLDN

9 жыл бұрын

Eleanor Fitz u look like a racist

@OscarGonzalezTheRealOne

9 жыл бұрын

Totally agree Eleanor Fitz. This interview had so much more potential.

@deadshot1995

9 жыл бұрын

Eleanor Fitz It seems every time Sam makes a valid point and backs it up with strong evidence, Cenk has to go back to acting as if he's being somehow intolerant or stereotypical, no matter how clear Sam makes it that this isn't the case.

This was an amazing 3 hours, honestly. I don't like cenk but this convo with Sam was just...wow. You should absolutely make videos like this again.

Such a great, honest and genuine debate, 9 yrs later

It is a disappointment that Cenk didn't seem to understand logic or reasoning and seemed more interested in rebutting rather than discussing

@neilwendylauren

9 жыл бұрын

IMO he does understand. He is being intellectually dishonest.

@neilwendylauren

9 жыл бұрын

***** Good point

@freemanwalking1867

9 жыл бұрын

James Hayes FUCK ALL U IGNORANT BIGOTS!

@TheMusterionOfRock

9 жыл бұрын

borhanus Then watch it again, because you didn't understand what he said. He is not playing any blame game, but you have to be honest about that religions are not the same and some religions are worse than others.

@neilwendylauren

9 жыл бұрын

borhanus Then you need to read some of his books. The irony of your comment is that most of Harris's criticism is specifically directed at Christians.

This interview did cenk no favors.

@ToveriJuri

8 жыл бұрын

+Jason Gamblore Most of what he says doesn't. He's the broken clock type of guy when it's comes to being right about something.

@MattFoleysGhost

8 жыл бұрын

Cenk's mouth in general does him no favors.

@YuMa-oi1mj

8 жыл бұрын

+Ray K and how is that any different to the total simplyfied statement made by Sam? "poverty doesnt cause crime. Islam does. hurdur" And whats with all you uneducated people and your "I see snow, so global warming is not real" logic. Just because someone is educated and fighting "against" the USA doesnt mean he believe in 72 virgin or allah. And what kind of idiot would call those people "happy". They go to a warzone to die. How the fuck can you call their previous life "happy".

@eliteviktor3

8 жыл бұрын

+Jason Gamblore Nono, at 56min he did have a solid fucking point!

@JordanMedina

8 жыл бұрын

+Yu Ma ...... Just listen and watch jihadists as they make their last prayers before blowing themselves up. They are in religious ecstasy. "We love death like the enemy loves life," say the true believers. You are thinking logically in saying that this is madness, and that no one could think or live this way. However, it's a sad fact. Think before you talk shit.

Note to self: Don't debate an intellectual giant unless you are totally prepared, or Cenk

I would love to hear a body expert analyze the sitting postures of these two. They are distinctly contrasting..

This interview is the reason I now say "I used to watch TYT" I wonder how many people here feel the same way.

@eelsify

7 жыл бұрын

My name is eelsify and I used to be a regressive

@4DsProductions

7 жыл бұрын

Same here. Those were dark times lol

@tomharcourt2553

7 жыл бұрын

Same

@dailygrindism

7 жыл бұрын

Bobby Tannock feel the same way

@VVoicu25

7 жыл бұрын

Used to watch it regularly. I can't stand it now

I'm embarrassed for Cenk and I'm frustrated for Sam.

Can we get an update? Very relevant conversation for today.

cenks arrogance is unsettling

@LetsBringPeace

7 жыл бұрын

do you have a source for this "Muslims push sharia law in Texas?" I want to read that

@Motsie91

7 жыл бұрын

@John Gosh, how much of an idiot are you that you jumped to that conclusion?

@mattzellner8739

7 жыл бұрын

Che X lol.

@gnifemaul

7 жыл бұрын

Cenk is further up his own ass than anyone I've ever seen except for maybe Donald Trump. Also, you realize that Jews make up .0018% of the global population, right? What possible trouble could an uncoordinated group so small cause for the world at large?

@carlosdanger7263

7 жыл бұрын

Cognitive neuroscientist Sam Harris Vs Cognitive dissonance patient Cenk.

The best way to enjoy this interview is to put it on mute whenever Cenk is talking, and to take it off mute whenever Sam is talking. Sam has a lot of fascinating things to say, and the intelligence level of Cenk is too obvious to mention.

@stevejoseph4514

8 жыл бұрын

yea those must be some intellectual coversations you have with friends and family members where you get talk the whole time and they dont speak at all. anybody can blame one religion but how does that account for the insanely high majority of Muslims that don't commit terrorist acts? I can find just as much if not more violence in the Bible then I can in the Quaran. All religions are bs and they are all equally made up and stupid by guys who thought the world was flat

@hanzss26

8 жыл бұрын

Islam is 1500 years old, and in the modern days Jihad started only when Israel and America invaded Palestine and Iraq, can anyone tell me if there were a suicide bomber during 1970s or 1960s or 1950s it started first in Lebanon against Americans and French marines who invaded the country. US spread terror when they wage a war against terror. Terror was in Afghanistan only now it is everywhere in the world, people say death to America and Israel not death to China or Brazil or India there are very strong reasons to say that. It is not religion it is an occupation and drones and supporting Israel and shit kings and dictators in the region. Islam has no effect when there is peace and prosperity. It seems that Atheism is another way of popularity and making money but not in an honest way.

@niniv2706

8 жыл бұрын

The terror spread by islam at the turn of the last millennia was as real as it gets . That bombs became smart or belief systems reformed is of NO matter to the ravages faith based belief systems have done to humanity . Islam is a problem on 2016 Earth . Not much Mormons suicide bombers at the moment, or, christian crusaders blowing up CIVILIAN planes .

@jasoncornish2904

8 жыл бұрын

@hanzss25 , you need to look a bit deeper in history. It starts with the wahhabism in the late 1800s - early 1900s as @nini v has pointed out. Do a google search on "wahhabism", it will be quite educational on a major factor responsible for how we got to where we are today.

@ThiLI0n

8 жыл бұрын

The history of islam is one of violence, war and conquest...this is by no means a new development

Summary: Sam: all religions aren’t true Cenk: yeah but my previous religion isn’t as bad as the others!

@highpeaks3598

4 ай бұрын

Cenk now claims to be a Muslim now. He always was an Islamist, just said he was agnostic to be trendy and be acceptable to gullable liberal whites.

@thetruth5574

4 ай бұрын

Yeah! Don’t know why anyone takes Cenk seriously

@snorttroll4379

3 ай бұрын

And islam is actually bad?

I would never get bored listining to Sam! I love his logic and his way of expressing things!

Cenk, "I'm not qualified.." Sam, "Well, I am..." -- sums up the entire talk

@damascus21

9 жыл бұрын

A cognitive neuroscientist is not qualified to make statements about the sociopolitical consequences of religious belief.

@swisshakilla

9 жыл бұрын

C

@JoshuaCasper

9 жыл бұрын

damascus21 "He feels that the survival of civilization is in danger because of a taboo against questioning religious beliefs, and that this taboo impedes progress toward more enlightened approaches to spirituality and ethics."..

@garysanders6091

9 жыл бұрын

Joshua Casper I feel that the discussion should be had though.. Cenk has been preaching anti-Sam Harris for a while now, so Sam should have a chance to defend himself.

@malcolm-danielfreeman5940

6 ай бұрын

cenks a political commentator - if they were talking politics/economics i think it would be the other way around

Sam Harris' patience is UNBELIEVABLE.

@aghadmtl

7 жыл бұрын

and Cenk's stupidity is INFINITE

@076657

7 жыл бұрын

Also true. He can't understand that hitting two birds with an arrow is less probable than hitting one. He thinks it's the same probability because it's so small. Very dumb guy indeed.

@aghadmtl

7 жыл бұрын

OF COURSE! OF COURSEEEE!

@Exodus27

6 жыл бұрын

He is a real-life Jedi

@er9875

6 жыл бұрын

Thats what long term meditation seems to do

Watching this for the second time. Can't get enough.

@yoo_zen

3 ай бұрын

Get a history book! :)

Quite a pleasant discussion to listen to. Thank you Sam and Cenk!

I'm more intrigued by Sam's patience than his intelligence.

@shanilemeow2942

6 жыл бұрын

vpr3i Medititation for many years.

@justinclark216

6 жыл бұрын

His patience is on another level. I admire it.

@diegocervantes7946

6 жыл бұрын

those 2 go hand in hand, you cant separate.

@comanchio1976

6 жыл бұрын

+deflair lais Not necessarily. Some brilliant people can have a volatile nature. Which can be quite entertaining. I find Sam's approach/character more admirable, though.

@diegocervantes7946

6 жыл бұрын

+comanchio1976 no doubt. I just said that because Chunk doesn't have patience for shit when he hears something he disagrees with, then goes on with a very UN-intelligent response and sometimes rant that doesn't make any sort of sense. I dont totally agree with sam but i am more influenced to listen and ponder someones thoughts when they aren't screaming "OF COOUURRSSSE!" "JUST LOOK IT UP"

This is basically a 3 hour commercial for Sam's book on meditation, because he shows that he has the patience of a saint.

@restlessmind8921

4 жыл бұрын

lmao that's brilliant

@cityman1111

4 жыл бұрын

And totally outclasses Cenk intellectually.

@mosehlewi3081

4 жыл бұрын

Harris looked completely irritated. He continued cutting Cenk's exchange. These are not indications of extraordinary tolerance.

@mosehlewi3081

4 жыл бұрын

​@@cityman1111 Matthew 10: 34 “Don’t think that I’ve come to bring peace to the earth. I haven’t come to bring peace but a sword. 35 I’ve come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36 People’s enemies are members of their own households. 37 “Those who love father or mother more than me aren’t worthy of me. Those who love son or daughter more than me aren’t worthy of me. 38 Those who don’t pick up their crosses and follow me aren’t worthy of me. 39 Those who find their lives will lose them, and those who lose their lives because of me will find them. Luke 12: 49 “I came to cast fire upon the earth. How I wish that it was already ablaze! 50 I have a baptism I must experience. How I am distressed until it’s completed! 51 Do you think that I have come to bring peace to the earth? No, I tell you, I have come instead to bring division. 52 From now on, a household of five will be divided-three against two and two against three. 53 Father will square off against son and son against father; mother against daughter and daughter against mother; and mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.” Luke 19 "As for my enemies who don’t want me as their king, bring them here and slaughter them before me.’”

@anunknownentity1637

4 жыл бұрын

@@mosehlewi3081 sorry, but those verses are metaphors there not meant to be taken literally

Funny listening to Cenk talk about Christianity and the Bible like he knows anything about it. And it's always entertaining listening to an Atheist also talk Christianity.

Sam Harris, I applaud your courage, your knowledge about the subject.

Cenk is trying so hard to misinterpret what Sam Harris is saying. Is it deliberate dishonesty on Cenk's part, or just his profound ignorance showing?

@longgone23

7 жыл бұрын

What you call misinterpret is him being critical?

@zylo999

7 жыл бұрын

When he cannot even find common ground on the definition of the basic laws of probability, yes I do think he is misinterpreting.

@longgone23

7 жыл бұрын

Well, he might not be much of a philosopher. But that wasn't the most important point in the debate was it? For example his points about slippery slop of torture is not a bad one, just because Harris manages to sound more brainy and logical doesn't mean he is right. Now it's Trump's presidency. I'm glad torture is not allowed.

@shannongoatright7025

7 жыл бұрын

I don't think it's deliberate, I think there's suggestion shown throughout the video that Cenk is unable to detach his own bias from his viewpoints.

@hittman1412

7 жыл бұрын

Cenk is just dumb.

This was like trying to watch a philosopher try to explain logical reasoning to a caveman.... oh wait.

@plaguebringer420

8 жыл бұрын

+ConfrontationalRealist Though he's not exactly a philosopher, he does have a degree in philosophy and can write about it like he was a philosopher. Cenk is a youtube journalist.

@plaguebringer420

8 жыл бұрын

ConfrontationalRealist That's correct. Harris not being a cult leader is another fact. He's a neuroscientist and an author with a degree in philosophy. There's a big difference.

@plaguebringer420

8 жыл бұрын

ConfrontationalRealist So since some people are fans of their's, they're cult leaders? Every popular author has a "cult following", are you just using it that way or seriously comparing his following to a cult? That would make J.K. Rowling, J.R. Tolkien, Stephen King, etc. cult leaders, which kind of dulls the meaning.

@SirGriffin87

8 жыл бұрын

+ConfrontationalRealist You say very stupid shit. I bet that you are alone and no one likes you.

@Rifkin777

8 жыл бұрын

+GamersInfoOn Cenk couldn't debate his way out of a paper bag. He doesn't understand fallacies, nor does he understand logic.

In today’s India there seems to be more animosity towards the Muslin Mughal Empire than towards British Empire!!

@a354681

3 ай бұрын

and still India has one of the most populations of Muslims then any other Muslim country?? And that too Muslims are doing better than ever before financially, socially, politically and education wise? Muslims of Indian do not need your support. Typing reckless messages in KZread. Visit India and see it for yourself!

@mrt445

Ай бұрын

The British Empire are no longer an issue in India or out of India. In fact the UK currently has a Prime Minister of Indian descent who can practice his Hindu faith openly and it's not an issue for anyone.

@munish259272

28 күн бұрын

You are crazy

Thank you, Sam Harris, for your clarity We would like to think that all cultures, all doctrines, are the same and are of equal value, but they’re not

I like to ask myself if Sam had said the same things as he stated about Islam but instead towards Christianity, would Cenk have had a problem?

@starryian007

8 жыл бұрын

I doubt it. He's a Turk. Whether he states he is religious or not we all know where his allegiances lie. It's so obvious and intellectually out of his depth here.

@vader1a

8 жыл бұрын

Totally.

@MrMarioSm

8 жыл бұрын

+starryian007 deep inside he still likes islam more than other religiouns (even though he doesnt belive it) he still protects it

@starryian007

8 жыл бұрын

MrMarioSm That's a fair estimate of Obama Mario. I feel he is a Muslim and he hides it because he knows that it would have been completely unacceptable to the electorate (a mere 7 years after 9/11) and would have ultimately lost him the election in 2008 if he were to declare it. The man is a complete fraud. I will guarantee that after he leaves office the extend of this massive fraud will start to unfold and be slowly revealed.

@mlb5656

8 жыл бұрын

+vader1a I agree that he would have a different opinion, but not bc he was muslim. The left tends to shy away from criticizing minorities, less powerful etc. I agree with most of what Sam says, but when he criticizes Islam my first reaction is to say no Sam you're wrong. Only after I give it a few moments of thought I realize Sam makes a lot sense. So I think it has more to do with Cenk trying to stick up for the underdog.

Did Cenk just disagree with probability?

@thorondor4012

6 жыл бұрын

Samuel Simms OF COOOOUUURSE he did

@fulca4389

6 жыл бұрын

Cenk just discovered another branch of probability theory... professor “it’s probable that” student: “hmm, based on Cenk theory, we just don’t believe that!”

@conneradamek474

6 жыл бұрын

JUST GOOOGLE ITTT!

@candycolriv

6 жыл бұрын

C Adamek 😂😂

@dewilew2137

6 жыл бұрын

He really did. I understand what he was trying to say, but he missed Sam’s point entirely. It seems like he just disagrees with everything for the sake of it.

Such an amazingly good and needed talk on this very delicate subject !!! It's a 3 hour long debate, but boy, it has been all worth it !!🤗

Always enjoy when peeps allow conversations that represent opposing sides. Well done

General Douglas MacArthur was a “benevolent dictator” during the post WWII transition from Imperial Japan to one of out most staunch democratic allies in the Asian world. Let’s not forget that:

@view1st

2 ай бұрын

A democracy where only one party holds office and where the country is still occupied isn't really a democracy. Just as the Okinawans.

So happy with how this video was received. These comments give me hope for humanity

@rapmetalchannel3740

8 жыл бұрын

+Adam Smith Yeah, Cenk is a cool guy!

@AdamSmith-kl1rs

8 жыл бұрын

+RapMetalChannel clearly I meant the negativity against Cenk. He's a bombastic, incorrigible, infallible, dickhead. Sure I agree with him on many things but overall he's a douche that asserts himself beyond his ability.

@gavdobs

8 жыл бұрын

my exact sentiments

@dieterhofner7043

8 жыл бұрын

+bm3racer You clearly have no idea what racism is people like you destroys the important word racism. You stupid bigoted racist:)

@AdamSmith-kl1rs

8 жыл бұрын

+bm3racer no need to call names but I think Sam is just honest and realistic about the threat we face. He's not afraid of calling things as they are, for example you simply have no reason (at this time) to be worried about a Buddhist being a suicide bomber, it is not racism, not bigotry, not intolerance or islamaphobia, it is just the reality we face.

Cenk disagrees with Math.

@b.6.7.f.h.

7 жыл бұрын

Michael Anthony No, he disagrees with you. Math has no opinion on whether statistics applies to mysticism.

@walid7885

7 жыл бұрын

No Cenk is right, Sorry Folks, here is a clarification : if the probability of an event is zero then the probability of that event happening with another event is still zero. Sam would be right only if the probability of an event is superior to zero. That my friends is probability 101. So Cenk was right no matter how calmly Sam Harris is stating his argument. Being calm when stating an argument does give it psychological strength but factual strength.

@willieo6027

7 жыл бұрын

You can't assert that the probability of, for example, Jesus returning is zero. You don't have divine knowledge that I don't. I agree it's extremely improbable but zero means zero. And *obviously* Sam's point there is correct, it doesn't matter whether you're an atheist, ,a believer, or whatever.

3 hours of Cenk missing the point

Imagine talking to a 5 year old for 3 hours.

Cenk - Makes Point Harris - Responds directly and backs up his viewpoints Cenk - Disagrees (or agrees and disagrees)... deflects with unrelated point Repeat for 3 hours.

@Philo-ul2uq

6 жыл бұрын

fjordan2345 so true

@someonegetsteve

6 жыл бұрын

Sam Harris comes across as calmly ...petulent, arrogant and egotistical as ever. The way he starts (calmly) is: how dare someone say something negative about him on the internet and what an asshole his host, Cenk, is. Wow. He's not gracious about the Interview at all, he's not original, and (to be honest) it's hard to stomach that this type of person has a legion of males that swamp every one of his videos with comments and congratulate themselves on how he wins every argument. You're following a rude, idiot who you've mistaken passive aggressive, pseudo intellectual verbosity for real world articulateness who is actually just petty and snide, a little racist and sexist and who no actual academic considers groundbreaking or original. But yes, he is passive aggressively calm which means he's superior, right?

@ionutradoi4327

5 жыл бұрын

I cannot disagree more. Sam Harris is a fake intellectual.

@themask4775

5 жыл бұрын

hahhahahahaha

@elfbruh

5 жыл бұрын

someonegetsteve although your criticism of a lack of originality is warranted, misrepresenting his point as merely "how dare someone say something negative about me on the internet" is exactly the kind of thing he was defending. the principle of misrepresentation was the primary issue corrolorated by the fact that the aforementioned misrepresentation was done by journalists claiming or implying their professionality, and that Cenk was at fault for participating within that same sphere of intellectual dishonesty. I personally don't understand your claim that he is both somewhat racist and sexist, and for the most part, the conversation seemed to be an attempt at civility. if someone were interrupting me and misrepresenting my views, then yes; I would more than likely be passive aggressive.

This intellectual bullying, Sam's playing 3D chess and Cenk's still trying to get the hang of hungry hungry hippos

@reticularimismariocuomos3823

6 жыл бұрын

AXG remember when Clinton was playing chess and 3D chess and in real world trump won cuz he was playing hungry hippos and twister!!

@Nero-xv

6 жыл бұрын

A better anology would be tic tac toe. The complexity of Sam's arguments are very clear to wrap your head around.

@stefjonesee6180

6 жыл бұрын

AXG hahahaha nice one!

@12FU

6 жыл бұрын

hahahahaha

@GuamTippedOver

6 жыл бұрын

too funny - legit laugh out loud

this conversation was an amazing accomplishment by both men

Lol, Sam absolutely destroyed the terror apologist.

The Better question you guys are missing here is, "How did Sam manage to keep his leg in that position for 3 hours straight?"

@naieemali1114

6 жыл бұрын

That's his physical stance that perms into his superiority complex.

@cembalina8454

6 жыл бұрын

Eye on America News Years of meditation??

@MrSHIRLEY81

6 жыл бұрын

and jiu jitsu

@omarlives

6 жыл бұрын

I was noticing the same thing but he switches his legs if you pay even closer attention.

@seanbinghamvldable

6 жыл бұрын

Or why nobody ironed the bottom of Cenks pants. He looks like a child dressed him. lol Am I the only one driven nuts by that???

Cenk: "I'm not an expert on this." Sam: "But I am." GOLD.

@thefearlessobserver3455

3 жыл бұрын

A Jordan Peterson line

@perpersson442

3 жыл бұрын

@@bobcorra4798 1:16:00

@Fireoncityy

3 жыл бұрын

That's really far from what was said

@Fireoncityy

3 жыл бұрын

@Reggie Jackman sam didn't claim he was an expert in this moment. Watch what was said. Sam is more than qualified

@Dodo-dy1uq

3 жыл бұрын

Timestamp please

This is a wonderful debate

Love how they leave out the child sex slaves in the tulmound

_Cenk_ = *"My beliefs are shaped by emotion and politics"* _Sam_ = *"My beliefs are shaped by reason and evidence"* It's very telling when at the beginning of the debate Cenk got a few "laughs of agreement" when he made a point against Sam, but as time went on, for some reason they were eerily silent.

@JAYtheMAN2121

7 жыл бұрын

Holy shit, I'm 2.5 hours in and forgot that there was an audience.

@animegirls3219

Жыл бұрын

He used real historical facts, or you don't read either, my native American half felt the toxic Christian doctrine of manifest destiny up until today. Sam danced around and wasn't honest about real history

@mosipd

Жыл бұрын

@@animegirls3219 What are you even talking about?

"Sam Harris is an intellectual black belt" - Joe Rogan

@DonDraperism

7 жыл бұрын

Hardly, but Cenk may very well be the most stupid person on the planet.

@ashyboy1324

7 жыл бұрын

Ajay Harry I don't think I've ever heard anyone say anything with less value than what you just said. See what I did there? You probably didn't.

@SM-wu4fp

7 жыл бұрын

Cenk testifies to his ignorant bias very well by defending Salon the cesspool of fake news .

@ashyboy1324

7 жыл бұрын

Igor Dvorzhak chomsky is a great intellectual and to be honest sometimes Sam's criticism of Islam comes off as motivated by something more than dedication to an honest understanding of ideas, however I dont think Chomsky's assessment is complete. Take a look at Hitchens' views on Chomsky I think they're on point.

@mastervolume1508

6 жыл бұрын

Joe Rogan is smarter than all of you. That's for sure. When was the last time Sam Harris wanted to talk to you?

Thank you Cenk, it is so nice to see you at a normal level of emotion. Don’t go on Pierce Morgan show anymore because you act crazy when you get on there, you get so upset. I think you’re going to have a heart attack and I can’t bear to watch it, but now you’re so calm and peaceful and both of you are so engaging. Great interview glad to see you back to normal.

Very interesting considering the current circumstances

Sam Harris deals in specific details and Cenk deals in generalizations

@Zeuts85

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's what's truly ironic about this. His main argument against Sam is that Sam is generalizing all Muslims as terrorists. Yet, while Sam is parsing Muslims and the Islamic religion on specific points based on poll numbers, Cenk is essentially trying to excuse _all Muslims_ on the basis that not _all Muslims are terrorists._ Sam is just saying: "If a Muslim believes fucked up shit and it's _specifically because of his/her religion,_ that's a problem." In response Cenk is saying: "But not all Muslims believe fucked up shit, and anyway it's _no different_ from Christianity or Judaism!" You're missing the goddamn point Cenk.

@averagejackmedia609

7 жыл бұрын

All the while Cenk keeps claiming that Harris is generalizing. Crazy.

@dystopia5695

7 жыл бұрын

that's the difference between a davinchi work of art and a kanye west work of crap

@frankilinfujid

7 жыл бұрын

People tend to lean on details when they do their research instead to start a fight to get youtube views.

@thurston138

6 жыл бұрын

9budah3 I think Cenk would disagree with that

I just hope KZread doesn't fill my feed with TYT videos cuz I watched this one video.

@12FU

6 жыл бұрын

that would suck!

@GameWorks12

6 жыл бұрын

Caleb Barker they always do that shiy

@jcbynum007

6 жыл бұрын

1) If you sub TYT, you'll see their videos in your feed, 2) If you respond with "Like" or "Dislike" their videos will be in your feed, 3) CLEAR your History playlist often. A lot of the Feed and Recommendations are influenced by your History playlist. :)

@blazedandconfused477

6 жыл бұрын

You can just hover over recommended videos, click on the little three dot menu and select ''not interested''.

@libertyordeath1211

6 жыл бұрын

I appreciate all of your concern. Thanks for the tips

Why Sam even agreed to sit down with Cenk is baffling. Cenk also thought that running for president of the US was a great idea. Sit down and go away Cenk. Your hot-headed diatribes and bad ideas are legion.

This was a very painful watch. Sam Harris I envy your patience.

If you only knew what was coming in 2024, this conversation will be so different...

Been scrolling through the comments for 20 minutes, have yet to see one person compliment Cenk.

@Matty80822

7 жыл бұрын

lmfao me too

@OscarZoroaster

6 жыл бұрын

at least he likes bacon ?

@degen83

6 жыл бұрын

That is because Cenk is a bully who mischaracterizes his opponents views and belittles them. Cenk does not listen. His personal views prevent him from listening.

@theproperenglishman

6 жыл бұрын

Brian Sager he's done well for himself with a private media company. Congrats to him. There.

@101dumars

6 жыл бұрын

Cenk has a blackbelt in douchebag

I tried uploading this to Pornhub, but apparently rape is not allowed by their terms of service. When i was a christian my church didnt even hand out or teach from the old testament. It was new testament only. And being born and raised in Northern Ireland i can tell you, with 100% confidence that its not about religion. Its about sovereignty. There are catholics and protestants on both sides. As well as atheists and other religions. The IRA which now is mostly catholic was started by protestant farmers. Not catholics. No one ive ever known, and ive known a lot of enlisted terrorists on both sides, have ever stated anything about faith or brought it up. They only talk about sovereignty. For 37 years sounded by this shit, and im not cherry picking. And yes there are religious people on both sides, some very religious. Never once heard any of them talk about religion in the context of Northern Ireland.

@TearsoftheAeon

5 жыл бұрын

savage

@alexherbert9404

5 жыл бұрын

Hahahahahaha......belter mate....!!

@bachezjulius

5 жыл бұрын

Funniest joke in this whole tread

@johanarbraz6868

5 жыл бұрын

+1

@bricecate

5 жыл бұрын

Booooooom! Well done

Cenk! Brilliant talk! I learned so much from BOTH of you. By far, one of the best debates I've seen on your show. It has always been a subject close to my heart. I missed the online furor over Mr. Harris' past statements, and interpretations online, but I think it was brilliant of you to get together the clarify, and air out differences. Thank you!

@MrRyanSD

26 күн бұрын

I may have missed it, what did you learn here from Cenk?

Problem is religion is in sanity . It’s coo coo crazy. On all levels -this is going to be funny in 100 years. This debate is over. We have science, give it up

Credit to TYT for not disabling the comments section

@williamwhitfield6225

4 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't give them to much credit it's more likely thier arrogance that caused this situation driving it. When you turn off comments or take down a video your essentially admitting defeat and waving a white flag. Cenk and TYT will never admit wrong or fault they will just double down on it. Cenk's the kind of guy who walks away from this interview when any sane person can see he looked completely ridiculous and ignorant. And high five all his employees and ho "wow what a asshole that guy is, we really took it to him. I feel like that whent really well for us". And all his employees who are scared to criticize clap and agree.

@jamesnicol7077

4 жыл бұрын

My inclination to agree with this statement is evidence of how pathetically censorious the left has become

@kelvinnguyen3038

4 жыл бұрын

credit to The You Tube?

@jesserogalski1402

4 жыл бұрын

Nope. Just like bombed their own video lol

@Iamradthad

4 жыл бұрын

Lol I never thought of that 😂

Poor Sam having to deal with this obtuse simpleton...

Philosophy doesn’t make it right. What about your morals? What about your intuition? What about your heart?

*"If I could wave a magic wand and get rid of either r@pe or religion, I would not hesitate to get rid of religion. I think more people are dying as a result of our religious myths than as a result of any other ideology"* - Sam Harris The Sun Interview, The Temple Of Reason, How Religion Puts The World At Risk September 2006

Cenk actually believes he is Sam's intellectual equal. Cenk's chair is smarter than he is.

@BastiaanvandeWerk

5 жыл бұрын

It's worse - he even seems to believe he's the smarter of the two.

@travelssrb

5 жыл бұрын

Cenk level of hubris is just outstanding in this video. There is nothing more dangerous than a moron who thinks he's intelligent. Cenk thinks he won this debate along with the one with Ben Shapiro and it just goes to show his intellectual delusion.

@stealthassulter

5 жыл бұрын

You don't even know what intelligence means... So shut the fuk up

@joelundheim1060

5 жыл бұрын

Sam is obviously a smart guy, but I feel his analysis is flawed, Cenk is right in calling him out on a.

@bfrankwithme4514

5 жыл бұрын

@@joelundheim1060 you're right lol

Take a shot every time Cenk agrees with himself

@robertbaur3145

7 жыл бұрын

and die of alcohol poisoning??

@kawhileonard3745

7 жыл бұрын

brotherBox 😂😂

@conjandysecurity

7 жыл бұрын

2 minutes in... hickup

@vikingd517

7 жыл бұрын

10 mins... drunk as a skunk...

@harrisonjananto91

7 жыл бұрын

brotherBox end of video = dead

Excellent conversation!

Great debate!

I don't think Cenk understands basic logic and reasoning.

@josephinhiding3595

7 жыл бұрын

One of the things both of these guys keep arguing about are Sins of the past, of the religions. I'll argue, that i's less relevant than the evolution of the religion, the development of it's moral philosophy, and consequently where it stands today. What I see is that Western religion has advanced by being exposed to the philosophers of the 18th and 19th century while Islam is still behind a couple hundred years (well at least 200). Religion in the west still plays a significant role that the philosophers failed to fill . philosophers left behind a moral void, in my opinion.

@AppleJacksCereal

7 жыл бұрын

Brandon Schilling Cenk is a word twisting angry man who constantly bullies his opponent and panders to his audience (talking about his politicon videos)

@shannongoatright7025

7 жыл бұрын

I don't think this is surprising. A very, very small percentage of (at least Americans) are required to take philosophy 101, which is typically, basic logic and reasoning.

@dubbatrubba1759

7 жыл бұрын

Brandon Schilling sCank just wants to win the argument regardless of how much he lies.

@Weez2202

7 жыл бұрын

He went to Columbia Law. Much of his commentary makes me wonder how he got in but he's not an idiot.

Also, an hour & a half into this, i just wanna say... I know Sam is non-religious, but he does have the patience of a saint by any religious metric.

@billthegenericguy

8 жыл бұрын

+Ian Howe I suspect it's his martial arts background. He has a reputation as an angry atheist based on his writing and his rhetoric but he's actually almost completely unflappable when you see him speaking in person.

@BenjaminTyvand

8 жыл бұрын

+Ian Howe I got 33:15 in and I thought that Cenk was being an asshole, and Sam had quite the patience. I'm going to have a rough 2 and a half hours.

@jkp0586

8 жыл бұрын

LarsArneable man im right there with you. i had to stop watching... i couldnt take it anymore. people in this country LOVE to be offended, and love to be on the moral high horse and talk down to people. to the point where Cenk is going off on Sam Harris before he even understands Sam's argument. Almost everything Cenk was arguing about, I wanted Sam to jump in and say, HEY! you're talking about something that I didnt say

@ianhowe1449

8 жыл бұрын

Yeah...there’s an amount of pretentiousness about Cenk that I find unsettling. He fancies himself a mind-reader sometimes. Sam will say one thing, & Cenk will take that statement, then make all of these extrapolations & conclusions that Sam wasn’t implying at all.

@dosmastrify

8 жыл бұрын

Ha ha hilarious and true

Years later and Sam is still a Saint for dealing with Genk the way he did.

This is what a civilized conversation/debate looks like. I wish we could see more like this between adults.

@thetruth5574

4 ай бұрын

There was one adult. Sam Harris LOL

@amyh9512

3 ай бұрын

​@thetruth5574 how so? 🤔

This is like Floyd Mayweather fighting my Grandmother.

@5easy

6 жыл бұрын

stephen Toth painfully unfunny

@stephentoth6003

6 жыл бұрын

Axhiro Madlander Aww man, i remember when i posted that thinking "if Axhiro Madlander doesnt find this funny im just a failure, and hell never invite me to go hang with the cool kids" . So thank you for being honest. I guess ill never get jiggy with it now

@5easy

6 жыл бұрын

nice man, you passed the test by not caring about my judgement. Welcome to the frat.

@user-fw3hp7bb6d

6 жыл бұрын

What a comment 😂😂😂

@alexanderthegreat7985

6 жыл бұрын

agreed

harris speaks with intellect, logic and simplicity. very rare quality. i completely understand his views. IDK why Cenk is disagreeing. he seems slow.

@MelindaGreen

9 жыл бұрын

Juuso Peltoniemi I think Cenk can be quite rational but in this case he is on the hook regarding a previous interview that he really needs to pull. (That is why Harris agreed to this interview.) Obviously he doesn't want to do that; hence his arguments become slippery and defensive.

@blacknite222

9 жыл бұрын

Cenk definitely has a soft spot for his "ex" religion....

@Jenkkimie

9 жыл бұрын

Cenk has specific views and opinions that color his perception. You can see this with his interview with Karen Straughan. Cenk being a Feminist and Karen being a MRA. Cenks own ideological bias showed very well and he can not keep his head cool, instead he is very easily emotionally invested in his arguments which is the exact thing you should not do in order to be rational and logical with your argumentation and debates. That is his issue. I think Cenk would do a lot better if he learnt to keep calm and draw logical conclusions after giving a moment to think about them and having an open mind to what other people are saying.

@xAdam05x

9 жыл бұрын

Cenk, although he has left Islam, has a strong biased for Islam. His favorite defense is, "oh well Christianity did this and that." That isn't a defense to anything Harris is saying. It's coming from a place of bias. Cenk, you must let go of this bias before you can become a true figure in the skeptical, free-thinking world. ALL of the religions are wrong. ALL of the religions are dangerous because they promote a belief in something that is clearly untrue. If people are willing to believe religion based on nothing, thats when we get FOX news being able to say whatever they want because their viewers will not vet the sources or even ask for sources because they are raised not think of those things as important.

@Jenkkimie

9 жыл бұрын

***** Joo oikeesti?

Cenk, sam is %100 rught about everything

The guy on the left lost all the way in the beginning