Guys the reason why Eric talks so much is to inform you. Its better to know more than know less. To me Erics "too much talking" helps!

"Centipede" quite a frightening name for a locomotive with such a cute face

@CCXmas

3 жыл бұрын

its called that cuase its long

@CCXmas

3 жыл бұрын

@Tommy Mathew let's make it longer

I am relatively new to the hobby. I'm 20 and in college and have been running Lionel since the mid-1990s when I was given a simple 4-4-2 Santa Fe freight set one Christmas. So long as Lionel offers the basic smoking steamers that they have always offered, I don't worry about the crazy prices on these nicer trains. All it took was that 4-4-2 and its short freight with illuminated caboose to get me hooked, and today, I spend an extra couple hundred a month just to have a two bedroom apartment.

And with that, I can now say that I'm officially a proud owner of the Lionel Vision Line UP Baldwin Centipedes. I found one for sale on Ebay earlier this week and got it for a very attractive price that I couldn't refuse. One of my most desired O gauge locomotives is now officially a part of my collection. Words can't describe how euphoric I'm right now. I will keep this set forever.

@Ericstrains

Ай бұрын

nice, way to go!

These older videos take me back. I remember going with my dad to his place of work one summer and just hanging out in his office binging both The Full Bucketniers and these reviews. Ah the olden days.

Alway informative! Thank you for the background and history on this unique locomotive, Eric! I like the fact that your review is not rushed and so thorough.

One magnificent model! The sound and workmanship exquisite--makes me almost want to get into modeling. Well done, Lionel!

What a monster! And yet it is so sophisticated. This vision line is breathtaking.

Lionel just went nuts when making this centipede did they?

Some of their Vision Line features have already worked their way down the line. The smoking whistle is now on some of the starter sets.

Great review Eric, the detail on those trucks is incredible, and the sound is great! Awesome fans on top as well! Looks like they hit the nail on the head with this engine. Thanks for sharing, and have a great one!

How come model trains don't have stereo sound????? we have those types of speakers in our phones so what's the big deal???????

@tencents49

3 жыл бұрын

Cause whats the point of stereo sound from a locomotive if its in a 3d environment. Unless you want to fill it with speakers that play each individual sound, then a single speaker will do. It gives off a great effect none the less

Hey Eric, here's an idea I thought of: Use the 999 engine and it's "ghostly sounds" as a Halloween/spooky thing. The Ghost Train! :D

Thanks Eric. What a great review. I always look forward to viewing you next train blog.

Great job Eric! I agree its very nice to see how MTH and Lionel are really moving forward in innovations.

Eric, this is the first time it took me TWO cups of coffee to watch one of your videos...lol. This is a FANTASTIC lengthy video with a ton of good information in it. I like you postive opinion about Lionel being on the cutting edge. I agree, I want them to continue with these new ideas for our hobby. I also want to thank you Eric for the massive amount of time it must have takeb you to film and edit this video. I enjoyed kicking back with my coffee and watching this video soooo much... thanks

Eric great video's Ive seen a lot of the others but yours are the best.

Eric thank u for all ur great video's a great looking train and layout u have there keep making video's thank u again

Amazing review. Thanks again for all the time you put into this. You have really done so much to help our hobby grow. The sound seems amazing even via video. After watching your review I am wondering if it is prototypical for every engine to have 2 builders plates. I would imagine that it is if Lionel adds 2 to every engine. Thanks again Eric, really enjoyed kicking back for an hour and watching your review!

Great looking locos only seen pics of a centipede. Your narration was great and very knowledgeable.

Very good video Eric. Well worth the wait. Awesome engine.

Love your Lionel Reviews!!

Imagine a Vision Line rendition of the DDA40X or the UP 3rd Gen Gas Turbine.

@abysmaldryer

4 жыл бұрын

That’s a wonderful idea. Maybe they could have some of the doors on the side open up so you could see the two prime movers inside. The engine is so big that they could fit all of the electronics in it.

@TheMeatDealer0

3 жыл бұрын

There is a o scale train for the turbine

Once again, thanks for another great review. It was because of you that I have the Vision Line CP Hybrid. I liked what you said about making innovations . It's like buying a car during it's first model year. Once your work out the kinks, you usually end up with a pretty good product. At least Lionel is trying to stay on the cutting edge. As for having both metal and plastic body engines, my other GEVO is the MTH one. I happen to like them both.

Wooooo! Eric's back with reviews!

Beautiful wouldnt have been my first choice of words

Boy I love the Centipede locomotive! It is a beauty!

I just picked up an MTH Premier version from the MTH 2004 volume 1 edition. It's gorgeous. However, I'd still like to get this Lionel version, too. It's simply stunning.

great review i have Ben anticipating this since you first mentioned it

Great video Eric! I liked the look at the Colorado Room. That thing is massive! It looks so weird going through curves. BTW, I just bought that Morton Salt Hopper the other day so it's funny to see it in your video now.

Excellent review Eric.I run N-Gauge myself,but I really enjoy your well thought-out product reviews and appreciate how you present the products.Regarding your time and effort you put into these presentations,I think it would be a nice gesture on the manufacturers part if some their marketing people would step up to the plate and offer you their new prototypes and other product releases to review for us at a substancial discount or even free due to the fact that it is a good promotion.Thanks Bud.

I have a centipede and I absolutely love it

Nice demo of this engine. Thank you.

I think the engine exhaust is the best feature I have seen on any model loco, that includes sound to. You're never going to replicate steam engine smoke but I can see real progress with diesel engines and possibly gas turbines.

Great review Eric

That is a lot of engine almost 4 feet, the camera definitely doesn't do the size justice, surprised you were able to get the whole thing in frame. It would certainly be magnificent to see this thing in person going down the rails. The moving fans and faint horn sounds are great minor but significant details that add to the realism. I find the Centipede to be very odd and very cool by its size and it not being a very successful engine in real life. I wish Lionel would do more of these weird/obscure engines that are more forlorn and not very mainstream as Vision Line models and bring more attention to them. It's also been awhile since they've made a Vision Line diesel, I would love it if they made a Vision F3 or something like that. Great video Eric!

Wow that locomotive is sweet! I saw something similar on my favorite road: PRR.

Very nice set! This looks so good it's a shame the UP cancelled order. I can imagine photos of this locomotive on Sherman Hill. Thanks for sharing your video.

OK I think my Big boy engine just shrunk compared to this beast lol

@bradenkilby

5 жыл бұрын

catlover 2345 I think so

@FranzFerdinandVIII

5 жыл бұрын

We should all shrink the Virginian triplexes

Awesome job, Eric!

AWESOME review Eric!!!!! I love the Centipede and think it was worth every penny. I agree with you that the sound system is the best feature and believe that it is without a doubt the best sound system ever put into a model engine. I also agree with you that innovation with some operating issues is far better than no innovations at all. Hopefully Lionel will continue with the Vision Line and advanced features!!! Anyways, thanks again for all your hard work bro and have a great one!

Eric. Awesome review. Amazing engine. Keep up the outstanding work. I noticed two GE Evo's on the layout. Hoping for a Lionel Vision vs. MTH Premier comparison in the near future???

I like your videos, very detailed and informative about each locomotive. Is there another video depicting how the centipede negotiates curves? Very interesting! Thank you!

Great review Eric!

Thanks for the review!

Eric, when you said "Postwar engines have maybe a pound or so of pulling power" I started putting weights on the frame of a tender for my postwar 2056...it can pull 15 pounds

@DarrellJMartin

3 жыл бұрын

The pulling force is measured laterally, not by how many pounds are being pulled. That same 15 pd weight would require much more pulling force if it wasn't on wheels, and that could be measured by attaching a pull force measuring device (like a fish weighing scale?) to the weights and seeing how much force is needed to pull them (I'm spit-balling about the fish scale, so maybe someone has a better method).

@railramsay9025

3 жыл бұрын

@@DarrellJMartin that was a misunderstanding that my dumb younger self got, in general I wasn't interpreting the words right, you are right I'm not telling you that you aren't it's just that in a more clear manner, it's tractive effort not how much it can pull, made that connection like 5 months ago

Awesome video! Very well done.

26:03 you spit on the train

What type of horn does this locomotive use? I like the sound of it.

Great review. You talked about the sound being good? No,it's GREAT!!!! The prime mover sounds were recorded using one of the only DRS-6-6-1500 locomotives, Magma #10, still running. It's located at the Arizona Railway Museum Chandler AZ. I have been next to this locomotive when running and as I listen I close my eyes and could almost feel the vibrations. I am into HO but love the detail Lionel put in. Wish our locomotives could have running fans.

Very good review Eric. If I had all the money in the world (and O72 curves, lol) I'd buy one of these for sure, they look awesome!

another awesome review!

just wondering if it would be possible to run this engine with a set of up passenger cars between them or would you have to run the engines together

Hi Eric, I am new to the hobby and appreciate your reviews.

The Colorado room has made great progress!

Nice improvement in the Colorado Room with the canyon!!

Beautiful!

Lionel keep making good stuff

What about the 3800 Challenger or an SP Atlantic?

That train is crazy awesome

At "The Train Loft" I saw a single Centipede with the cab window inserts imploded as you had described. At the time I was wondering what had happened to it, but now I know.

Watching this in Sept 2023. Great review as always and well done on showcasing the dual engine sound collaboration. What would this item retail for if it was just released today with 2023 pricing!

@Ericstrains

10 ай бұрын

Probably $2500 or so.

If I'm not mistaken, the ghostly UP 999 would be great as a lead engine for a ghost train scene in a movie!

@thatredfokker

6 жыл бұрын

Kerry Freeman That would be pretty cool. And it's even better because if you flip 999 upside down, what do you get? Perfect ghost locomotive.

@nicholassammons3881

5 жыл бұрын

@@thatredfokker no it won't It would look stupid.

@thatredfokker

5 жыл бұрын

To the average outsider, yes.

@FranzFerdinandVIII

5 жыл бұрын

Do you mean flipping the numbers? Then that would be a perfect ghost loco

@dtrail3276

3 жыл бұрын

@@thatredfokker Flip the numbers over? Is that what you meant?

Are you talking about 1/2 centipede that's just the single unit?

I cant find the web shop where you can buy the Lionel engines you review!

@Oskar-js6iv

7 жыл бұрын

+D I S C O V E R Y Oh HELLO There

Could you do a video on the N&W Jawn Henry; I believe I’ve seen a few models on it but they could be custom considering how unknown it seems to be

Were all the centipedes built before the process of turbochraging the motors? This is a really nice model! It would look nice in any layout set from 1947-today!

I model in HO but these locos were/are very cool and sound great

Interesting, I agree I'm always looking for oddball locos like BNSF #9647 which I received the other day.

i love the horn if u dont know what type of horn it is its a leslie a200

nice video and this is just a suggestion but could you look into the mth canton switcher it is a real train and it works in my home city of Baltimore md and also are u going to get the 2013 es44 by mth please respond thanks

Subjective comment but I'd have gone for the Pennsy 5 stripe version. But what a beast these things were! Maintenance nightmare from all accounts.

Eric, how many wheels are drive wheels on the centipide

Have you ever thought about getting a Lionel Phantom engine.

love the Centipede

Like the different track view

How many Union Pacific engines do you have?

Really, the sound was excellent.

Love your reviews just wish these things were more affordable

Mr. Siegel, in the video when you explained how UP never received and how they were scrapped. Units #998 and #999 were the two demonstrator units.

@FranzFerdinandVIII

5 жыл бұрын

Wait, really?

why are three rail layouts. whats the advantages?

Eric, I know they're not in the video, but what company makes your D&RGW f units?

do you put all your engines in Sequence mode on the pilgrimage?

Great engine! When you first started the hobby, and you hooked the legacy base to mth tiu, did you ever have a problem when your legacy engine was on the same track as an mth engine, your mth engine or engines would have problems, like reseting its self or not even turning on?

I do not really care for diesel but these two look at more of these two diesel engines are really fantastic well the fans and everything well Lionel has really done with this if good favor by giving us such fantastic products

When you were demonstrating the horn sounds, and there is a reverb effect in stereo...wouldn't it have been better to locate the camera mid units? i.e. in the center where the units combine. Unless your camera isn't equipped with stereo mic's which in these modern times would be unusual.

Why does the rear unit weigh more?

Yes, Broadway Limited is the only one (to my knowledge) that makes them, not sure if you can get one from their site still, but there are a couple on ebay, but I don't think there are any of them in a UP scheme.

Really cool, but $2199? Christ I've bought cars for less than that. Recently! Working ones. Wow. Really slick though for sure.

@goldenretriever6440

7 жыл бұрын

thenekom I kinda want to make my own model train engine partially to see how much I can actually make it

@finndahuman57

6 жыл бұрын

thenekom that's how you know this guy makes a decent amount of money 💰

@switchpointproductions7927

6 жыл бұрын

Well you have to take into account that these locomotives have extremely unique and detailed features, so therefore the models will cost more.

@2475grant

6 жыл бұрын

thenekom The one next to the no

I think the centipedes are one rare occasion where I'd rather have a pilot version than a painted version. The pilot models look very nice and since these were so obscure irl I feel like it would look equally out of place either way. Also, since they aren't in any of my favorite schemes, I would want a Milwaukee road one if they made one and I could find the money.

Very cool.

I like the crew talks

Did you happen to have a slight issue with your engines when you first got them? When I went to go pick them up from the train shop, I tested them on the test track and got lights, sounds, and smoke, but it wouldn't move forward or reverse. When I got home, I tested them on my own personal test track, and everything worked as it should. A friend of mine in my club bought the Pennsy version new and he had an issue with them. He sent it back to the train shop, which then sent them off to Lionel, who corrected the issue. Apparently, Lionel knew there was a slight problem with these engines but never issued a recall apparently because they did not want to deal with backlash and everyone sending in their engines to Lionel for repair. I'm just curious to find out if yours had the same problem right out of the box.

@Ericstrains

Ай бұрын

I never had any issues with mine and never heard of any widespread issue with them.

I picked up the Baldwin demonstrators last year and they rarely are run, as they look awkward while pulling 100 Scale Diecast Ore Cars.

Eric. You hands down do the best reviews on KZread. Lionel is sure making some amazing products these days. I just wish I could afford one. Any one. LOL

Hey grea video, what is the size of your layout?

Even though they weren’t successful back in the day, the vision of basically a diesel Big boy, is massive; imagine the massive amount of power if you used todays parts and traction motors, with a massive diesel engine, would be immense, be the world’s most powerful locomotive and diesel engine the world, and replace multiple engines together, although if you had the engine generator the length of the engine, you would have to either hook it up to an oil tanker, or make a faux B-Unit that holds the diesel fuel

@themanformerlyknownascomme777

Жыл бұрын

The engine's legacy is slightly complex, none of it's major failings (aside from the visuals) are it's fault, Baldwin didn't build these on an assembly line but two at a time resulting in maintenance being a hassle, they also chose to use an air throttle, killing off compatability with other engines and mandating an engineer to each cab. In terms of actual performance the engine did everything it was asked for and more. Even today it would be considered a viable option based on specs alone. If Baldwin had built these diesels like diesels and not steam engines it would have been a different story.

Doesnt installing the fan switch void the warrentee? Lionel should have installed that instead of putting in lights to illuminate the fans.

I wonder in Lionel will make the seaboard and Mexico railways paint scheme later

it looks really strong too.