Life for Women in Post-Communist Romania | States of Undress

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Hailey travels to Romania, in the midst of the largest protests since the fall of communism, to find out what it’s like to be the first generation of women raised in the EU.
This episode of States of Undress first aired on VICE TV in 2017.
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  • @cassif19
    @cassif195 ай бұрын

    I'd like to point out that although corruption reached astronomical levels after the fall of communism, and although there is still massive corruption here, things have actually improved a lot. The reason why a protest against corruption brought more people to the streets than any other protest since the revolution, is not because corruption is worse than ever, but because we finally have the hope that protesting can make a change. That particular protest actually managed to achieve its short term goal

  • @aliena2.031

    @aliena2.031

    5 ай бұрын

    I agree. This was filmed in 2017. Looking back, a LOT of things have changed regarding corruption and people's reactions during the last 6 years.

  • @CharlesDorsay

    @CharlesDorsay

    5 ай бұрын

    Yes, a lot has changed since 2017. Corruption is back and there are no options for the next year elections. Good luck! 😂

  • @Jones131

    @Jones131

    5 ай бұрын

    Thank you for adding more perspective!

  • @andrewgodly5739

    @andrewgodly5739

    5 ай бұрын

    A neoliberal desperately trying to take the ability for post-socialist peoples to have an opinion on how capitalist oligarchy has actually made things worse. Bro. There's massive support for communism in those countries and wish to return to socialism. Just look at the statistics. Many them have a majority advocate for a return to socialism. This isn't nostalgia either. No ex-slaves wanted to bring back colonialism or feudalism. Just like capitalism, they were brutal oppressive regimes. In fact, there's more support for communism in these countries than there is for the citizens (or shall I say capitalist slaves) in current western capitalist regimes for the current system and leaders. If you really want to see an authoritarian system with mass disapproval, look no further than your local capitalist "democracy." You don't even have the freedom to live if you have no money in capitalism.

  • @mariaiatan3953

    @mariaiatan3953

    4 ай бұрын

    @@andrewgodly5739such a good point! I like to think that this truth doesn't take away from some other fair points that this video and its perspective makes, that the host actually referes to Ceaușescu's politics as a "unique brand of communism" with, as i understand it, the underlined implication that socialism and communism are not necessary bad, but just like any other ideal/philosophy/political view, can be used against the people sometimes. I think civilization is very young in the grand skeme of things, and we have much to learn through trial and error, and these are important steps to take for a more inclusive, equitable and peaceful society that imho, cannot ignore the ideals of socialism and freedom. It is also important to add that the last 6 years made a huge difference and it keeps getting better, Romania being in 2023, the second largest eastern European economy after Poland, larger than Hungary, Czech Republic and Greece. We are more accepting of diversity, we are tackling more basic social issues like road safety, equitable taxation, funding for education workers, medical workers, etc. in a way designed to also address the rampant corruption in those systems, which was at least partially caused by the disparity between the social value of that work and the social/financial status of those doing it. All this is possible because of the initial short term success of the protests from 2017/2018 which triggered an (at the time inconceivable) change in our political class, even if small, so that politicians can no longer afford themselves the same outrageous privileges in overcoming the rule of law. All this can only be sustained by continuing to fight back against the current wave of neo fascism, that arose as a response to these big societal changes, as it has throughout Europe.

  • @moxinspace
    @moxinspace6 ай бұрын

    The documentary is from 2017. Things have improved.

  • @shannonbritton5313
    @shannonbritton53136 ай бұрын

    This reminds me of vice during its hay day. Fantastic reporting. We are all so lucky to have been born in a free country. These girls could have been any one of us.

  • @catalinam0102

    @catalinam0102

    6 ай бұрын

    Free country? You guys just overturned roe v wade. As a romanian woman I would advise you to not take that lightly

  • @tooktoomuch116

    @tooktoomuch116

    6 ай бұрын

    It was originally published by vice!

  • @ozlekosusturu

    @ozlekosusturu

    6 ай бұрын

    Girl do you not have any critical thinking skills? This is YOU.

  • @lisal.1114

    @lisal.1114

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@tooktoomuch116Wait just published or also produced by vice?

  • @heatherfrench6438

    @heatherfrench6438

    6 ай бұрын

    Free country where? roe v wade was overturned, and they want to make birth control illegal, among other things....we're not a free country, not to mention the many other rights that others have already lost or are going to lose, seems your head is in the clouds or you are absolutely clueless as to what's happening here. We're about to lose our own democracy.

  • @Booksandstrawberries
    @Booksandstrawberries5 ай бұрын

    From the title I thought this would describe Romania in the 90's... The situation definitely is improved. It's not so dramatic as the documentary presents.

  • @anita4609

    @anita4609

    4 ай бұрын

    Just because those things don't affect you personally, that doesn't make it any less "dramatic" for the people interviewed in the video and many others just like them 💔

  • @kw9158

    @kw9158

    3 ай бұрын

    Just because your life is not like this, does not mean that many many other people aren't facing similar problems. You should feel lucky if you don't face such hardships, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't highlight the hardships that many others are still facing.

  • @eedragonr

    @eedragonr

    3 ай бұрын

    Regarding the freedom of the criminality is the worst

  • @cristinac196

    @cristinac196

    2 ай бұрын

    @@anita4609 It affects pretty much nobody personally, because it's such a small percentage. Shitty things happen everywhere, and it's certainly shitty for the people it happens to. It still doesn't mean it's a large national problem. So yeah, this video is overly dramatic. The reality is Romania is a very safe country, with 5 of it's largest cities (including Bucharest) being among the top safest 100 cities in the world - safer than some Western destinations like Madrid or Amsterdam.

  • @anita4609

    @anita4609

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@cristinac196 I grew up in Romania, I know how "safe" it is.. and saying that it's a small percentage of people, therefore they don't matter and let's not care about them or show their struggles in a video, to not "make the country look bad" sounds pretty messed up.. So many problems could have already been solved, if we focused on solutions, instead of what others would say/think of us if we acknowledge the problem

  • @saramoore4377
    @saramoore43775 ай бұрын

    Incredible reporting!! I love how Refinery29's fashion roots are being integrated into so much more about the female experience. Hailey is an excellent reporter, the timing and the questions were so good and I love how many perspectives were discussed. Not to mention, many of the people being interviewed are hard to reach/don't want to be found. Thank you

  • @MsEyelinered

    @MsEyelinered

    5 ай бұрын

    Refinery29 didn’t make this, vice did. Idk why they’re reposting it

  • @mariaiatan3953

    @mariaiatan3953

    4 ай бұрын

    Please keep in mind that this is from 2017, things changed A LOT, and i find it a little misleading to be posted without this disclaimer.

  • @watermelonplateinchanskitchen

    @watermelonplateinchanskitchen

    4 ай бұрын

    @@MsEyelinered refinery29 is owned by vice, they probably reposted it on here because refinery's target audience is women and states of undress geared towards women too

  • @aikoyumiko7961
    @aikoyumiko79616 ай бұрын

    Wow. I am speechless. What a well done documentary. The girl’s story at the end was very sad. I hope she is safe and doing better today.

  • @Mar.1634

    @Mar.1634

    5 ай бұрын

    It's not a well done documentary, it's fully of misinformation and outdated rethoric. She even said Romania joined the EU 10 years ago, thats a total lie and terrible research on her part.

  • @sweetycamy

    @sweetycamy

    4 ай бұрын

    Honestly, what the hell is wrong with this country...

  • @mariaiatan3953
    @mariaiatan39534 ай бұрын

    I think posting this without the disclaimer that it’s old is very misleading to people who watch these during coffee breaks and/or have few reliable sources that actually tell the truth and it’s not just manipulation.As i said in another reply, in 2023 Romania is the second largest eastern European economy after Poland, larger than Hungary, Czech Republic and Greece. We are more accepting of diversity, we are tackling more basic social issues like road safety, equitable taxation, funding for education workers, medical workers, etc. in a way designed to also address the rampant corruption in those systems, which was at least partially caused by the disparity between the social value of that work and the social/financial status of those doing it. All this is possible because of the initial short term success of the protests from 2017/2018 which triggered an (at the time inconceivable) change in our political class, even if small, so that politicians can no longer afford themselves the same outrageous privileges in overcoming the rule of law. All this can only be sustained by continuing to fight back against the current wave of neo fascism, that arose as a response to these big societal changes, as it has throughout Europe. Also, such a complex topic shouldn’t be discussed in such a subjective and superficial manner, the corruption and poverty didn’t just happen and the state of things didn’t develop in a void. After the fall of communism, corruption became the means of survival bc of other countries essentially using their wealth to do a hostile take over of the means of generating wealth that already existed in communism/post communist Romania. This was possible bc the immediate post communist governments introduced a national economy that was fully regulated by the government with a currency that was intentionally devalued, in order to increase the national value of exports to a global capital economy, where the nominal worth of our means of production and resources were criminally undervalued. This process is essentially presented to citizens worldwide as a “cost of transitioning to democracy “ where in actuality, it is a cost to enter in a capitalist global economy, and shift the role of post comunist romanian citizens from producers to consumers. Yes, there is plenty of poverty in Romania, just as there is anywhere in the EU and US, however there is no place in Romania that is even half as bad as the LA strip, Muirhouse and Govanhill in Scotland, the slums of Paris and many others.

  • @eedragonr

    @eedragonr

    3 ай бұрын

    Everything was just a mockery

  • @ruxandragp

    @ruxandragp

    3 ай бұрын

    thank you for providing this context - it is important to understand that, like you said, none of those issues developed overnight

  • @D4NC3Rable
    @D4NC3Rable5 ай бұрын

    That final shot of the crowd organized into the Romanian flag colors gave me goosebumps. What a well done documentary.

  • @brigri8
    @brigri84 ай бұрын

    I was pleasantly surprised by the breadth and depth of this documentary. The presenter was excellent. Nicely done Refinery

  • @musiclover04428
    @musiclover044285 ай бұрын

    Those are the types of documentaries we need, documentaries about women and their lives all over the world.

  • @Sarraa27
    @Sarraa276 ай бұрын

    i love Bucharest, lived there for a year, the best most down to earth welcoming people

  • @pekaywi
    @pekaywi6 ай бұрын

    Amazing documentary, TY

  • @sarah6320
    @sarah63205 ай бұрын

    This is an amazing video. Thank you for doing this.

  • @CapturingSpain
    @CapturingSpain6 ай бұрын

    Hailey, what a great report! This was entertaining but also educating. And you've asked the right questions. Thank you!

  • @er...
    @er...5 ай бұрын

    CORRECTION: the caption at 26:33 should say boier (or boyar in other Eastern European countries), not _buyers_

  • @jigglypuff4ever
    @jigglypuff4ever5 ай бұрын

    Amazing video. Hailey is amazing, compassionate when needed and hilarious when needed. Love her videos!!! I watched a documentary about 10 years ago about all the homeless kids in the streets of Bucharest that were forced to be born to parents that couldn’t or didn’t want to take care of them. It was horrible. This should be a lesson to the politicians trying to force births in America, but alas they don’t even care about kids in the first place.

  • @alexandranicu5417
    @alexandranicu54175 ай бұрын

    This narrative about post communist Romania should start fizzling out not only from a foreign journalistic point of view but also from us as Romanians. The country is no where close to what it used to be economically, socially and cultural. Yes the regime can be still felt or seen in some areas but the society is starting to open up not only to ideas and cultures but also to foreigners. My Italian (non romanian speaking) husband can go anywhere and speak in English with everyone, from the corner-shop seller to Uber driver to.. literally everyone. There are poor people but there are also plenty of rich people and just like in any other European country you can chose on what to focus and what type of experience want to have.

  • @aliena2.031

    @aliena2.031

    5 ай бұрын

    As someone who was born and raised in Bucharest I agree with you partially. This is true for Bucharest and maybe 5 other big cities. But we need to understand that while some of us are more privileged, the realities presented in this documentary still exist across the country, especially in the rural areas. To bring change, we first need to acknowledge our problems.

  • @elenabob4953

    @elenabob4953

    5 ай бұрын

    This documentary was done in 2027. What it is present in this video it isn't the reality then and mist definitely it isn't the reality now. Do we have something to improve, of course we have as any other state but even the Eurostar acknowledges that Romanians are in the second place regarding the well being and way of living compared to all European States.

  • @ailek95

    @ailek95

    5 ай бұрын

    @@elenabob4953 2027 wow, a time traveler (joke, I guess it is 2017)

  • @pattyofurniture

    @pattyofurniture

    5 ай бұрын

    Pretending it's not happening doesn't make it stop happening. As long as there are poor people, there will be rich people ready to take advantage of them. This has gone on for as long as societies have existed, that's why it's referred to as the oldest profession.

  • @tangojuli209

    @tangojuli209

    4 ай бұрын

    I wonder if all the poor women looking at marriage as a way out would agree with you...

  • @trendy4tmrw
    @trendy4tmrw6 ай бұрын

    This series is incredible.

  • @snowpillow6136
    @snowpillow61363 ай бұрын

    This was such an amazing documentary! I learned so much from the Romanian people and their struggles. Thank you

  • @thevisualmetaphor
    @thevisualmetaphor6 ай бұрын

    Loved this!

  • @katytatou7259
    @katytatou72595 ай бұрын

    Thanks for this great reporting. So interesting. Hope with all my heart things will change.

  • @MarsInTheSpace
    @MarsInTheSpace5 ай бұрын

    thank you, Hailey!

  • @mash12372
    @mash123725 ай бұрын

    This is VERY cool. I did not know refinery makes videos like this. Great job!

  • @apio388

    @apio388

    3 ай бұрын

    They don’t- this is a Vice documentary from 2017; they are reposting it because Vice owns Refinery29. It is strange to me that they’re not making it clear that the videos are now 7 years old, because it undercuts the excellent reporting from Hailey et al

  • @claudiaciuta6492
    @claudiaciuta64924 ай бұрын

    Whenever I see "documentaries" about a topic I know very well, I doubt all other documentaries I've seen and ideas I got from them. I am 37 and Romanian, my chilhood friends are doctors and lawyers, teachers and whatever else they wanted. Yes, there is corruption still, but it is dying out with the older generation.

  • @Erika-xm2mi

    @Erika-xm2mi

    3 ай бұрын

    On the other hand, most of the people I know have had to give up their dream careers due to corruption and a lack of connections that could get them into the field. I met people with psychology degrees who worked as bartenders because the market is oversaturated and they didn't have the money to open up a private practice, people with teaching degrees who worked in call centers because they didn't have a connection to help them secure a spot in a public school, and the saddest case was that of a friend of mine. Went to school for 6 years to be a veterinarian and ended up working at a meat processing plant because no one would hire her, making about as much money as a cashier. Not that there's anything wrong with being a cashier, but those are years of her life that she will never get back. I also gave up on studying law and becoming a lawyer because I, too, didn't have the money and connections to pass the bar. The fact that you and your loved ones had a positive experience and fulfilled their dreams doesn't mean others aren't struggling and will never get to see their dreams come true. We are *not* given equal chances.

  • @eedragonr

    @eedragonr

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@Erika-xm2mieverybody is free to study what they love to. What they are doing after their studies and with their degrees is their own business. It's called capitalism.

  • @cristinac196

    @cristinac196

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Erika-xm2mi Most of us who do better simply selected better paying fields. Dreams are great, but nobody has an obligation to give you money for YOUR dreams. And it's actually fair - what makes you think you or your friends are entitled to have people work to support you ? Nobody I know had connections or rich parents and most have either well or VERY well paying jobs. Do like we did - study the job market, find something that suits you, even if it's not a dream, accept to start low, be nice and try to stay competitive until you advance. For instance, one of my friends started by distributing flyers and is now in an upper management position at a large company. The pay for flyers was pretty much shit, but she was always punctual and with a smile, even when she didn't feel like it, she became the supervisor etc. For myself, I had dreamt some type of digital artistry, had to admit I was not good enough and reoriented to programming - very cliche, but it pays really well. Just pay attention to the market = what is actually needed, start low, be nice and keep your eyes open for opportunities.

  • @SchokoGut
    @SchokoGut5 ай бұрын

    Wow, tears in my eyes. Such a beautiful documentary, thank you for showing this to the world and giving a voice to the people. Watching this with a broken heart, far from home.

  • @juliebrown4385
    @juliebrown43855 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this!!

  • @mihaidiana8165
    @mihaidiana81653 ай бұрын

    amazing documentary, brought me to tears!

  • @malinaniesuchowska9636
    @malinaniesuchowska96366 ай бұрын

    Great job, great documentary.

  • @fashioni_stas
    @fashioni_stas4 ай бұрын

    heart-breaking ! thank you

  • @cosmicconiferous6191
    @cosmicconiferous61916 ай бұрын

    I love Hailey’s fashion and culture reports! Thanks for keeping it up.

  • @dancoroian1
    @dancoroian15 ай бұрын

    Wow. Coming from a (mostly American at this point) Romanian, thank you for such a thorough and insightful look at some problems facing my home country! (Although I really wish you had taken a trip up north to the mountains and forests of Transylvania!) You've earned my sub 😁

  • @eedragonr

    @eedragonr

    3 ай бұрын

    Wondering why America is exporting such problems?

  • @cristinac196

    @cristinac196

    2 ай бұрын

    @@eedragonr It didn't, that's the result of communism - most of today's leaders have ties to pretty high ranking communist leaders. Almost ALL our prime ministers, for instance, were either themselves high ranking or educated by communists.

  • @cristinac196

    @cristinac196

    2 ай бұрын

    A good deal of exaggerations by omission. Bucharest is safer than Amsterdam or Lisbon, for instance. You wouldn't think so watching this. Most people would have no problem visiting Madrid or other cities ... mai cu staif :D, that are actually less safe than Bucharest, but they would think twice about the "Wild East" - which is actually more peaceful and also developing.

  • @dancoroian1

    @dancoroian1

    2 ай бұрын

    @@cristinac196 yeah I mean the stigma associated with post-Warsaw Pact countries/eastern Europe is hard to get away from, for sure

  • @reb13262
    @reb132623 ай бұрын

    Loved it! I am from Romania and I can say that the documentary painted a rather dark and dramatic Romania. Things aren't as bad and there are possibilities for people with a higher degree or no degree at all(they don't have to start prostituting themselves for a comfortable living). The issues presented appear for people from poor backgrounds who don't have family support. Young women from poor villages and from minorities are usually the target.

  • @eedragonr

    @eedragonr

    3 ай бұрын

    They don't have to do it but there are women who like to do it

  • @eedragonr

    @eedragonr

    3 ай бұрын

    Like her mother apparently

  • @diadelmar
    @diadelmar4 ай бұрын

    The documentary is from 2017. There have been a LOOOT of changes until 2024 and the economy has been on the rise, although 2020 and the Ukraine war has impacted the economy. Even if the women presented are real and these situations exist, there are a lot of women in IT, Finance, Law, Telecom etc. - a lot of the them in very well paid management or senior positions, with a wealth of work experience, and some of them opening their own businesses.

  • @user-ziztnm
    @user-ziztnm6 ай бұрын

    girl whoever out put u in that outfit was like..... purposefully not helping so that people would be like oh shes chill

  • @ladibyrd
    @ladibyrd5 ай бұрын

    fantastic doco!

  • @brixiex2580
    @brixiex25805 ай бұрын

    i need a historical focused version of this- so intresting.

  • @tinaandro1178

    @tinaandro1178

    5 ай бұрын

    IIf you want more details about the transition from Communism to Democracy in Romania you can watch the Documentary 30 years of democracy in Romania from Recorder (one of the few good journalists)

  • @karolinabaker7637

    @karolinabaker7637

    5 ай бұрын

    I doubt you will tap that knowledge vault on this program

  • @sarahelenamarrapodi6748
    @sarahelenamarrapodi67486 ай бұрын

    Great documentary!! I’m also shocked at some of the similarities to Italian, I never realized how close Romanian sounds.

  • @Cristina97

    @Cristina97

    5 ай бұрын

    We only share about 70% root words with italians... because our language is latin.

  • @aiardelean

    @aiardelean

    5 ай бұрын

    Someone described Romanian language as Italian, but with a slavic accent.

  • @moonjun96

    @moonjun96

    5 ай бұрын

    ⁠@@aiardeleanDon’t u ever say that in front of a romanian omg 😭 Romanian does not sound as blunt as slavic accent like at all.

  • @eduarddumitru8761

    @eduarddumitru8761

    5 ай бұрын

    @@moonjun96 I agree, I'm a Romanian living in Italy and I've heard Ukrainians speak Italian. They don't sound Romanian at all.

  • @Mrzana101

    @Mrzana101

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@moonjun96Sure

  • @SwampRusalka
    @SwampRusalka5 ай бұрын

    Calling modern Romania “post-communist” is like calling modern Germany “post-nazist”. It’s been 34 years already, my gosh.

  • @tangojuli209

    @tangojuli209

    4 ай бұрын

    Although you have a point, it also has only been 34 years and deep societal scar lingers powerfully in all aspects of Romanian culture, doesn't it? Particularly upon the women.

  • @ciprianpopa1503

    @ciprianpopa1503

    4 ай бұрын

    Sure, but Germany had Nurnberg trials that purged most of the nazi, whilst some other nazi fled to Argentina. Romania has only ex-communists in power.

  • @alessandrap4733

    @alessandrap4733

    4 ай бұрын

    Fun fact, Germany was communist too

  • @cami0076

    @cami0076

    4 ай бұрын

    I know, I think so too

  • @kamilion976

    @kamilion976

    4 ай бұрын

    only 34 years

  • @irenaryaboval2916
    @irenaryaboval29166 ай бұрын

    This was very interesting to watch. Hailey is a great reporter! Please do more for another country like Bulgaria for example.

  • @elenabob4953

    @elenabob4953

    5 ай бұрын

    It was superficial and untrue

  • @Alexandra_Hill

    @Alexandra_Hill

    4 ай бұрын

    @@elenabob4953 not it wasn't, it was on point.

  • @eedragonr

    @eedragonr

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@christinesavinono it explains why they have children marriage and keeping pure young women till their marriage in USA not to become victims of Tate and other traffickers

  • @zomertje6
    @zomertje66 ай бұрын

    Great documenary!

  • @_ZB4
    @_ZB46 ай бұрын

    Love this type of reporting - thank you!

  • @zeynepozalp7223
    @zeynepozalp72235 ай бұрын

    Damn. Amazing. Good job man

  • @ak.33212
    @ak.332125 ай бұрын

    i used to watch this series all the time omg, so glad they’re continuing it

  • @apio388

    @apio388

    3 ай бұрын

    They’re not, this video is from 2017. I wish they would continue it 😢

  • @peacefulhideaway
    @peacefulhideaway5 ай бұрын

    So interesting!

  • @maxduewel54
    @maxduewel543 ай бұрын

    Flawless Journalism. Thank you

  • @winona956
    @winona9563 ай бұрын

    I have so much admiration for all the women in this documentary. ❤ thank you for giving them a way to tell their story.

  • @LS-lm5vf
    @LS-lm5vf5 ай бұрын

    AMAZING JOURNALISM. thank you

  • @gavdevans
    @gavdevans4 ай бұрын

    Thanks for opening my eyes to the romanian culture

  • @anitajhj
    @anitajhj5 ай бұрын

    Idk what people are saying about it not being a ‘free’ country (?), i am literally romanian and it’s just an average european country. It’s pretty safe and normal. There is corruption and shit just like in other places, but since we are in the EU, we have waaaaaay more human rights than americans. We have amazing employee rights that spoil us with unlimited sick leave and a lot of vacation time, we have free university studies, we have the right to abortion (which you guys fumbled) etc. I have a pretty easy life tbh Edit: forgot to add good healthcare and free healthcare if you have a job

  • @simonafrincu7677

    @simonafrincu7677

    5 ай бұрын

    Yes, we have free abortions, but many of the doctor wont do it because of religious reasons. Actually its kind of hard to find to find a doctor that wants to do it

  • @michaelrmurphy2734

    @michaelrmurphy2734

    5 ай бұрын

    The past of Chacesch in Romania IS the future of America! Trump way!

  • @michaelrmurphy2734

    @michaelrmurphy2734

    5 ай бұрын

    I'd love to go there! How is cost of living? Rent and food, etc?

  • @elenaionescu1590

    @elenaionescu1590

    5 ай бұрын

    @@simonafrincu7677 I am not sure what is your experience with abortion in Ro, but I had no problems in doing it. Yes, the doctor asked me to rethink my decision and I thought it was sweet of her. She did not evoke any religious idea. However, when I said that I am 110% sure of my decision we made the plan and before I knew it I was done.

  • @karolinabaker7637

    @karolinabaker7637

    5 ай бұрын

    American based lens on matters judge everything on abortion rights. There is little gray area to speak of any positives in a country if women don’t have the right to abortion without any restrictions. Americans love their abortions

  • @vladlimbean6499
    @vladlimbean64994 ай бұрын

    Romanian abroad over here. As some of the comments astutely describe, corruption and sub-prime governance are a hallmark of the country. However, calling Romania post-communist is like calling Austria or Hungary post-empire.

  • @andij605

    @andij605

    4 ай бұрын

    In Hungary we call Hungary post-Soviet or post-communist all the time..... when talking about politics, but in a video title like this it would make zero sense. (Also this video is just a mess, it's so condescending.)

  • @vladlimbean6499

    @vladlimbean6499

    4 ай бұрын

    @@andij605 I wouldn't go so far as to call the tone condescending. I find the video's structure coherent. Plus, it gives a voice to the voiceless, albeit briefly.

  • @eedragonr

    @eedragonr

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@vladlimbean6499voiceless are the girls who got killed

  • @eedragonr

    @eedragonr

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@andij605they are lying much more than the Hungarians

  • @biancaiota4505
    @biancaiota45055 ай бұрын

    people in the comments are saying that romania's not a free country. i came back from the usa to romania and i realized that living here is so much better than in the us. freedom-wise. so stop commenting that. take it from a person who has seen both. also this documentary is old and so, so many things have changed since then.

  • @matthewhale2531
    @matthewhale25315 ай бұрын

    Incredible documentary, I'm waiting for one like this for as many countries as possible! This isn't just journalism, this is advocacy!

  • @silencesays228
    @silencesays2285 ай бұрын

    Things have changed a lot since I visited Romania in 1985.

  • @under88Me
    @under88Me6 ай бұрын

    Respect from Hungary to Romania.

  • @hardshell9236

    @hardshell9236

    5 ай бұрын

    There is no respect for any of you SS Nazi puppets who killed 10 million Ukrainians in WWII

  • @eedragonr

    @eedragonr

    3 ай бұрын

    Yes it is worse but at least did not have to resign

  • @joannaspoon1898
    @joannaspoon18984 ай бұрын

    can we please watch season 1? i'm dying to see it

  • @sophiasoto1405
    @sophiasoto14055 ай бұрын

    More of these videos please!

  • @cdawn41
    @cdawn415 ай бұрын

    Heartbreaking. To hear from that man’s own mouth how he doesn’t hesitate on the idea of abusing women. I wish the country was so lawless that they could’ve offed him after the interview.

  • @eedragonr

    @eedragonr

    3 ай бұрын

    Is that happening in your own country?

  • @user-oh3jn7ht3z
    @user-oh3jn7ht3z4 ай бұрын

    I don't know why I love this sooo much

  • @tildayeldah
    @tildayeldah5 ай бұрын

    This is such great reporting. Very well done

  • @mihaelaconstantin9672
    @mihaelaconstantin96725 ай бұрын

    I am sorry but this is an example of very bad and superficial journalism.

  • @Roanmonster
    @Roanmonster5 ай бұрын

    Living in Western Europe and being involved in a small political party (not personally at national level but I do know some members of parliament and I have been on the ballot) this is so baffling. I have a friend who moved from Romania to my country because he wanted to give his daughter a better life. I now truly understand what he meant... At one point he asked me how I got involved in politics and how it is that I can be voted for nationally and I explained to him that it's not so hard, you have to be active in a party and then apply like you would for any job. He said it almost made him cry to see that the process was so open and transparent (at least for most parties) and that this would be unthinkable in his country. This was really well done and really informative, thanks.

  • @deeabanu6443

    @deeabanu6443

    5 ай бұрын

    life is good here:))))))we are doing very well thank you.this documentary is veryyyyyyy biased.

  • @sikerslalatm3147

    @sikerslalatm3147

    5 ай бұрын

    Don’t be fooled though lol. None of the protest you see in the video actually happen anymore :) this video aired in 2017. A LOT of things have changed and the documentary is pretty biased in general to say the least

  • @max3334441
    @max33344414 ай бұрын

    I've worked with many romanian people as my company has a big office in Bucharest, really enjoyed working with them

  • @eedragonr

    @eedragonr

    3 ай бұрын

    We presume they deserve to be paid much less than you

  • @dariusdareme
    @dariusdareme4 ай бұрын

    I'm a Romanian. I appreciate the video.

  • @dianashantirosewilks8725
    @dianashantirosewilks87256 ай бұрын

    Excellent reporting and eye opening, thank you

  • @ursu16codrutza
    @ursu16codrutza5 ай бұрын

    This happened like 5 years ago or more.

  • @missjanedo
    @missjanedo6 ай бұрын

    This is a great documentary. I found it so interesting

  • @eedragonr

    @eedragonr

    3 ай бұрын

    Especially the key for free

  • @riaria652
    @riaria6525 ай бұрын

    I can say that it is a well-produced documentary with many informative aspects, but it also seems forced and superficial in many ways. Excessive wedding expenses, fashion programs, and many other elements mentioned in the documentary exist today in many countries where communism has never existed. It feels like in order to support the perception desired to be created in the documentary, many connections have been tried to be established without giving any depth and validity. In addition, I would like to say that although countries such as Poland and Romania still experience the effects of communism on a psycho-social level, they are not under an extreme effect as mentioned in the documentary. On the contrary, they quickly adapted to their situation and are developing rapidly.

  • @eedragonr

    @eedragonr

    3 ай бұрын

    Gathering information while lying and hiding the truth of their own society.

  • @annamariyad
    @annamariyad6 ай бұрын

    Very good documentary!

  • @kildareire
    @kildareire5 ай бұрын

    I love these women centric documentaries. Thank you.

  • @glenngaryglennross
    @glenngaryglennross5 ай бұрын

    Hailey, what a sweet angel! She dressed down on purpose, to let another girl win the Style competition.

  • @user-ib3mh7su8h
    @user-ib3mh7su8h5 ай бұрын

    Does not matter where you were born. "To be educated means to be free".

  • @Jorvaskrr
    @Jorvaskrr4 ай бұрын

    Why did you blur the church at 32:36 ?

  • @johannwolf1
    @johannwolf1Ай бұрын

    Only show I have ever liked from Vice... sensitive, and smart... and not woke. Very good host.

  • @JonathanNilens
    @JonathanNilens5 ай бұрын

    Was this recorded in 2017? She mentioned Romania joined the EU 10 years ago, did she mean 15 years? I really loved the reportage by the way.

  • @pinkitura

    @pinkitura

    5 ай бұрын

    The protests that she is showing happened in 2018

  • @stefantrandafir1099

    @stefantrandafir1099

    5 ай бұрын

    yeah in the description it says it aired in 2017

  • @eedragonr

    @eedragonr

    3 ай бұрын

    Don't you love the result of the keys for free?

  • @sashkad9246
    @sashkad92465 ай бұрын

    I feel like this documentary is talking about things that happened some 10-20 years before it was made. It states "10 years after Romania joined EU" which means 2017, yet mail order brides and cam girls? Who researched this? With so many options for good education and job prospects at just a 1hr flight away, no visa required, noone chooses to remain in such situations and they are definitely not a norm. Living in a neighbour country, I know 90s were difficult but I also know that by 2017 things were soooo much better than what this video shows.

  • @eedragonr

    @eedragonr

    3 ай бұрын

    Well done for the daughter of a pimp

  • @eedragonr

    @eedragonr

    3 ай бұрын

    I think that they believe that promiscuity means inclusion. By the boyars eventually

  • @kristillana
    @kristillana6 ай бұрын

    ❤❤❤

  • @kkurajam
    @kkurajam6 ай бұрын

    I missed this kind of Content from Refinery !! Still remember the doc about Romanian witches !

  • @mimisor66

    @mimisor66

    3 ай бұрын

    Just that the witches were from the Roma /Gypsy minority. It is misleading to present the culture of such an excentric minority as the Roma as the culture of Romania. Reinforcing the confusion between Roma and Romanian.

  • @matthias8122
    @matthias81226 ай бұрын

    How is 15 years nearly a “quarter of a century?”

  • @danac2899
    @danac28994 ай бұрын

    It is really interesting how western journalists when talking about romanian women or the life of a romanian woman never talk about the fact that we have one of the lowest gender pay gap 2%, highest senior executibes and enterpreneur in EU 4/10 being women, 2 from 5 engineers are women, we have 2 years of for maternity leave with 85%salary pay, work 40h/week only country where women work equaly to men.And on top how women generate social programs on top on GDP growth....For the west we are just prostitutes eventhough that is small % of the population, just like in the majority of the countries. And don't get me wrong I have seen plenty of sex traffing documentaries and each time I cry that someone could go through this and I am realizing that this has increased and we went from comunist where women equal to men and having jobs even from 50-60s when other west coubtries did not allow women to have a bank account to capitalism romanian women being prostituted, but I am really sick of this image which is being created of the romanian woman's identity.

  • @eedragonr

    @eedragonr

    3 ай бұрын

    It can be even worse as they have children trafficking. And only hiding and lying about many things

  • @ozgebaybars
    @ozgebaybars4 ай бұрын

    It's clear now why Andrew Tate chose to live in Romania

  • @rawkrXbabee
    @rawkrXbabee5 ай бұрын

    ugh feel so bad for the Romani girls getting married so young and the girl S.A'ed at the end :(((( my heart breaks for them

  • @lilol8761
    @lilol87614 ай бұрын

    i like the reporter shes rlly funny

  • @Sobranienegru
    @Sobranienegru3 ай бұрын

    The way she ate the soup 4:46🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @user-wx1uv1bs8q
    @user-wx1uv1bs8q5 ай бұрын

    as a Romanian woman , I am very disappointed with this documentary. for the majority of women here, this is not the reality.from the way this was edited to the whole doc showing just the worst aspects of the country. it's obvious Hailey Gates came with a formed opinion, the title is way too generic , just name it "the bad life" next time if that's the only part you want to show.

  • @karolinabaker7637

    @karolinabaker7637

    5 ай бұрын

    I agree with you. She is seeking out aspects of the lifestyle to fuel her narrative that women are “oppressed and exploited”

  • @laetitiaprovian1454

    @laetitiaprovian1454

    5 ай бұрын

    @@karolinabaker7637 yeah. You'd be surprised to see how many Romanian women nowadays go up on the social-economic ladder and work in world-wide corporations and have manager roles based on their hard work and ambition. I think this is just normal for women/people in developing economies.

  • @karolinabaker7637

    @karolinabaker7637

    5 ай бұрын

    @@laetitiaprovian1454 American girls do OnlyFans to supplement their income or ditch their job entirely. One can’t say there aren’t other opportunities in America (including corporate ladder). I’ve lived in both America and poland. It’s always a choice, and that’s fine. My original comment was about the perception of this doc

  • @eedragonr

    @eedragonr

    3 ай бұрын

    Are you denying the increasing violent criminality there?

  • @user-wx1uv1bs8q

    @user-wx1uv1bs8q

    3 ай бұрын

    Yes, increasing according to what? Its a low rate compared to a lot of european countries and its pretty stagnant. I feel safe, and i am saying this also in comparison with other countries i’ve been to

  • @solanjedere
    @solanjedere4 ай бұрын

    What I learned from this doc; under communism there was less vanity and better life conditions and corruption.

  • @FM-yk1yr
    @FM-yk1yr6 ай бұрын

    💗🙏🏾🎉

  • @alisoninceu22391
    @alisoninceu223915 ай бұрын

    This just feels a whole lot like poverty porn and the delivery of the story the West expects to hear about Romania. Sure, there are lots of things Romania needs to fix and do better, but so does the UK, for example. Yet, still, the majority of stories about Romania feature Communist blocks and talk about the seven Romanian words for corruption, while videos and media about the UK still focuses on the tea and biscuits, rather than the incredible poverty that exists in many parts of the country, especially the North, and such issues as the crumbling state of the NHS. Time to move on, people.

  • @Mar.1634

    @Mar.1634

    5 ай бұрын

    💯 my thoughts exactly! Notice how only out of touch westerners are praising this poorly made documentary, even going as far as saying they feel lucky they live in a "free" country compared to us, like what 😂 ignorance reaching astronomical levels, notice the subtle arrogance also ugh...

  • @mariaiatan3953

    @mariaiatan3953

    4 ай бұрын

    👏👏👏yes!

  • @rirri2386

    @rirri2386

    4 ай бұрын

    Agreed

  • @nokeechia

    @nokeechia

    4 ай бұрын

    There are more than enough videos on the state of the UK, whether it talks abut crime, poverty, state dissolutionment. I would recommend you check DW, Guardian, Vice and see how many there are.

  • @mariaiatan3953

    @mariaiatan3953

    4 ай бұрын

    @@user-nh5ew9ck4z the point with fascism is very valid, it’s happening in Europe as well, but maybe more covertly. Also, this documentary is old, from 2017. Just think of all the things that changed in the US since. Romania is oppressed still, in other ways. If you want to read a little abt my opinion based on experience, look for my other comments here. It really is “poverty porn” bc most people live pretty good lives even compared to the west tbh. If you search for any poor person/area in any country to interview as an anecdotal example, it’s misleading and even deceptive. Even the title of this documentary is intended to create an association between the effects of communism and the poverty porn presented here; this is typical capitalist fascist propaganda intended to associate authoritarian and totalitarian stalinist communism with social systems of governance where people contribute to the welfare and wellbeing of others and in turn, when not if, needed, your own. We have universal healthcare, free higher education that is way better than private, unemployment benefits, small crime rate on the streets (huge in the sheets of politics tho 😂), almost eveyone i ever met can go to the sea side/mountain side at least 2/ year, most ppl go to greece/turkey for the summer holidays, speak at least one other language, have at least one car, are able to afford a budget for entertainment, going out, eating out, regular medical visits, yearly blood tests, dental care, scholarships in high school and university from the state other than the free education, and most foreigners who come here are always shocked by how ok everything and everyone is, bc they expect some horse and carriage sh*t 😂 i think it’s always portrayed in this light bc media has always been a tool for manipulation used by those in power, so they want to make the west feel better abt the fact that those in power are also destroying your countries/economy/resources/systems for the people, so that the people don’t find out how much they are being robbed and instead consider themselves “lucky” to be in “developed “ countries. Don’t get me wrong, Romania is corrupt af as well, but the ratio of poverty to middle class compared to US states, for example, is worse than some and better than most. Our cost of living increase has been significant but you can still find a place to live and put food on the table with a minimum wage, unlike other European cities, like Barcelona, Paris or London, for example. I lived in Paris, have relatives in Germany, The Netherlands, Finland, Greece, Canada and others, there are ofc differences, and all have benefits and drawbacks, just like Romania. Those of us that move to another country, do so bc they find better paying jobs, but hardly anyone leaves to escape some form of abject poverty they could not otherwise survive. Also, many move back to Romania after studies abroad/working, build a business and thrive. The reality is not even in the same zip code as what is portrayed in this documentary. Hope this helps shed some light on the real state of affairs here.

  • @johnners911
    @johnners9114 ай бұрын

    That was shameful how Hailey was treated by the panel on Bravo Ai Stil. I'm really glad that the people took to the streets to protest after the show. The rudeness of the judges was awful and they should be taken to Targoviste for their behaviour.

  • @eedragonr

    @eedragonr

    3 ай бұрын

    You don't know what a professional judge is? You may not be appropriate to get a job

  • @indrinita
    @indrinita5 ай бұрын

    the reporter looked so similar to the international model!

  • @danihammy081
    @danihammy0815 ай бұрын

    Hearing that trafficking victim survivor’s story made me cry

  • @projectgenes1s
    @projectgenes1s5 ай бұрын

    Unbelievable! And men want to complain about feminist movements

  • @eedragonr

    @eedragonr

    3 ай бұрын

    Regarding the key partying?

  • @MsBlushing24
    @MsBlushing245 ай бұрын

    This is journalism! I'm hoping the future of journalism is more like this, producing long-form, on-the-ground exposés.

  • @dragosi8980
    @dragosi89804 ай бұрын

    First of all, as many have pointed out, this documentary was made in 2017, and since then a lot of things have significantly improved. Second, it's very clear that this video had an agenda, and the agenda was "point out how hard woman live in Romania". From coming in the worst days of the year, when everything is grey and ugly (even though Romania is one of the most beautiful countries in Europe), to pointing out that "romanian woman have to do videochat to survive", everything is so biased. Just for reference, our issues with human trafficking are nothing compared to the Fentanyl epidemic in the USA for example. In the work front, Romania has no issues with woman in positions of power, in fact my last for managers at work were romanian woman, so was their manager. Romania has had the largest increase in the standards of living out of all 27 EU countries since joining in 2007. We consume more per capita (in PPP) than even countries you could consider rich like Spain or Portugal. In fact Romania has now become a country that imports workforce, instead of only exporting as it was just a few years ago. You will not find a romanian delivering food in Bucurest anymore, all of them are people from Sri Lanka or Nepal.

  • @eedragonr

    @eedragonr

    3 ай бұрын

    They obviously don't have access to the industrial and corporate world.

  • @camouflageartist8897

    @camouflageartist8897

    2 ай бұрын

    Roma in Romania are not an ethnic minority but colonizers.

  • @anitaiuhasz2580
    @anitaiuhasz25805 ай бұрын

    The video should state more clearly that it is dated in 2017...

  • @breharmara957
    @breharmara9575 ай бұрын

    Very nice work, but why did you post it now? It was filmed during the 2017 issues regarding our then leader who was an abuser of power as we expected. It would have had a bigger impact back in 2017.

  • @FlowerChild65
    @FlowerChild656 ай бұрын

    This is just Season 2 Episode 8 of the Viceland show from 2017. Disappointing because I thought it was new. I miss Vice's old content. Balls Deep was also good.

  • @CoriStrell
    @CoriStrell6 ай бұрын

    States of Undress....what a clever double entendre.

  • @Kat-V
    @Kat-V5 ай бұрын

    lmao. an american chick being offended that her outfit isn't glam enough - "but i changed out of my pyjamas for this!"

  • @user-uv9zr8qs2c
    @user-uv9zr8qs2c4 ай бұрын

    This video is a good few years old now

  • @apio388
    @apio3883 ай бұрын

    PSA- this video is from 2017! Seven years have passed.

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