Jeff I made this exact argument for years but most people have the delusion that you must have a septic system and city water to be civilized. I am starting in a few months my 100% off grid tiny retirement home in the Arkansas Ozark's with the same goal as you guys. 0 debt. I have learned sheep will follow in all aspects of life but thinking and doing outside the corporate norm will always produce a better life.

@mafp22w

2 ай бұрын

It is criminal that, really, it is government that makes people homeless. They won’t allow people to live within their means.

@knotengajin7359

2 ай бұрын

Stock up on Off and Hotshot and Raid!

@kevchard5214

2 ай бұрын

Already done. I have cases of all the above LOL@@knotengajin7359

@pedroserranoserrano7062

2 ай бұрын

Saludos a todos esperó que se encuentren bien bendiciones los aprecio mucho ❤

@lesthompson5907

2 ай бұрын

@@pedroserranoserrano7062 I'm of the opinion that such a toilet needs a bit of love & care , by that i mean a little more effort invested in it fitting out & given they live in winter At zero degrees. to reach the toilet at night in the dark So a access considering the Quality the view to the toilet at night free of predicters Or falling in the snow Yes a quality do over is one of them must have convenience , as we get older in to our dotage for example a well built out house stench pipe to allow smells to go to air out side is also one of the improvements he can make. given ladies are present . some nice panelling panted or vanish for example would in prove the facilities given the drop lenth, available in the siystom. we had one seller at home. but it was nicely fitted out with oak panelling. that wuld grace any house no stench as it was vented to the out side at a Hight to be taken on the wind.

I used the outhouse everyday until I was around 18 years old. It could get very cold in the winter and you sometimes get a frosty seat. Best solution for that is to let someone else go first and warm the seat, Lol. Thanks for another educational video, Abby made me smile!!

@sandyc6569

2 ай бұрын

😊👍

I love that caution sign!

@andrewbrown6279

2 ай бұрын

That sign gave me a good laugh

I had a friend who used to call that a thunderbox. That pretty much nailed it.

No payments is a beautiful thing. Thanks

This is what people need to hear. The main way we are controlled

Makes total sense to those of us that have some. I grew up with one, a hole in the ground, but none the less. Your system would be alot better for sure, especially with a resting period. Imma try that, at my next cabin. Thanks so much! Love ya'll ❤

We used an outside composting toilet for years. As we got older, I decided to put in a septic system. I rented an excavator over labor day weekend and trenched the line, dug the hole , set tank, installed leach field, backfilled everything and seeded. I still had time left on the machine so I dug a root cellar. Total cost $3500.00 US. You don't need all the pump nonsense if you site your house properly to let gravity do the work!

@Gridlessness

2 ай бұрын

I know, it shouldn’t be difficult. Unfortunately around here the rules don’t allow for common sense…..

@knotengajin7359

2 ай бұрын

@@GridlessnessWell, you are in Canada which has some governmental problems. On the plus side, if you get too bummed out the governor will take you out for a reduced rate!

@LupusMechanicus

2 ай бұрын

Yep this video is pointless. DIY everything if you want to not get robbed by boomers and genx leaches.

@jenesisjones6706

2 ай бұрын

@@LupusMechanicus Who peed in YOUR Weeties? 🤣

@blackberrythorns

2 ай бұрын

@@knotengajin7359 the entire western world has governmental problems as the elites have lost their minds and the empire is collapsing.

Hey guys, I like how your daughters have grown up you’ve done the right thing live off the grid

Cut an extra seat for that out of blue or pink foam insulation. In the winter, it's like magic. As soon as bare skin sits on that seat, it is magically warm!!!

On a previous house we built we drilled 6 wells before we hit water. This was in the early 2000's so it was cheaper but we were still $60k into five empty holes and one that only made a gallon a minute. Ended up moving into our shop so we could save money to drill well holes. If you want a sick feeling hand someone $10k for nothing but a mound of dirt beside an empty well hole.

You have an awesome family! You’re raising your girls the right way!

The way you’ve done it, is the way it should be done! I’m hoping to get some land to hold onto for my children, if and should they ever need to go off grid (it’s looking more and more like they’ll need to one day)… wish we could move but it’s not in the cards for us now. However, I’m teaching them a lot of gardening, canning, cooking and frugal living even in the city, to hopefully help them in their future.

CAUTION ACTIVE LOGGING ON THE OUTHOUSE!!! HILARIOUS!!!!

I wouldn't have thought that a video about a shit house could be so interesting and informative. That's a good idea with the two-chamber system. The pretty girls have grown and I realize that I've been watching your KZread for quite a long time.

15k for our well, 5k for the solar pump install. $500 for solar panels installed on 3k shed, 5k for septic tank installed. Under 30k in 2018. 70k for the land. 70k for shop, leanto solar etc. 45k for a plumbed foundation. no house yet. But I am broke now, so buy my ATW so I can buil my house. Thank you!

Seeing the outhouse sign crack me up. I am going to build me an outhouse with that technology. Another great video.

Good morning from Syracuse NY everyone thank you for sharing your adventures in life

We have a composting toilet in our office grid home. I love it.

Hey guys, New to your channel. Been watching lots. Yeah, i got nothing cool to put into this conversation other than love your videos. So much love. So much laughter. Really enjoying all you post. Jeff...it's jeff right? Geoff? Anyway, you remind me of jack black, always making things fun. Rose, girls, you are all brilliant. I look forward to purchasing a few hand-made leather goods and seeing more updates. Kudos to you all.

In Australia - "most" rural households rely on rainwater collection for domestic water - in the driest continent - that includes flush toilets and septic systems. - A composting outhouse, rustic but not necessarily disease inducing, nor smelly (in-tune with nature) - what is to lose - a composting toilet has less land requirement than any septic leach field...

Great video! The Humanure Handbook is good reading for demystifying the composting toilet.

I bought a YoDave trigger spring for my rifle, I thought there was something wrong with my credit card statement! I went back and checked my invoice, it was Canadian dollars and not USD 😂

What an amazing analogy on taking a dump lol! That was EPIC!! Thanks for sharing.. now I know why I’m poor! All for taking a dump.

Nice vid! Also, with interior plumbing, you’ve got to have a consistent heat source - either a furnace or someone has to stay at home to keep a fireplace going

@mark_30_60

2 ай бұрын

At least for those of us who live where it gets cold…

We were going to do a regular outhouse, dig the hole, put in the culvert, a little shack on top, however, you changed our minds. We have a well as we are lakefront, so water was no issue. And i built our Septic system and it works good, at a very reasonable cost. That said, we are going to build our outhouse similar to yours, only thing is we are building a Sauna and outhouse in the same building above ground, with a wall between each part. The Sauna and toilet will be separated with an uninsulated wall, to allow the heat from the sauna stove to keep the outhouse portion warm, or a small propane heater if not using the sauna. Thanks again for the great idea our garden will love it too. Cheers

Makes total sense. Wow the prices there blow our minds. Good choices and mortgage free high five to that! Another great video!

@blackberrythorns

2 ай бұрын

the 2008 crisis in the states sent interest rates crashing to record lows for years, the countries that didn't have a crisis in 2008 then experienced massive property bubbles. it's disgusting.

Greetings, my well is 300' and cost $10k. I installed my own septic system for $7k. I have a 5000 watt solar system with 8000 watts of inverter. My well runs fine. We are totally off grid with no power on the area. Our township does not allow a outhouse as a primary waist system. We built our first 1500 square foot house for $5,000 40 acres of sizable reprod and a LT40HD woodmizer is what worked for us. That was 30 years ago. You have raised wonderful daughters in the woods of freedom and my wife and I raised 6 sons the same way. God bless you and your family in Jesus name.

Man that reminds me of when I lived at home in my early teens digging the outhouse hole was always my job

Everyone we knew thought we were crazy until we showed the numbers of our cost and the see the freedom of no bills .

Buddy Wassisname and The Other Fellas have a song about a budget septic tank. I think it’s called Dear Mr Ford and is about their 1985 Ford van that was a lousy vehicle but once they buried it and started using it as a septic tank it worked great!

awesome intro for an outhouse update video. when I lived in Alaska for many years hauled my water and had a basic outhouse. Foam seat not too bad at -10. Much respect for your creative solution to a necessity.

I really like the set up . Great video. Thank goodness I only had to have a simple septic system in 2000. It was only 800 dollars then. Thank God for sandy soil😁

Good Video man 👍 Imagine $250 Thousand for an Outhouse!!!! I’m with you: off grid is the way to go… Going off G. Way back when you did: Saved You So Much Money!! You and your wife have raised a beautiful FAMILY👍 All girls as well 😊 Keep popping out videos!! I enjoy them so much. Hope Winter hasn’t been too bad! Spring is getting closer. Barry Deacon Manitoba Canada 🇨🇦

Уважение Вашей семье и привет из Сибири Россия ! 👋

@donniev8181

2 ай бұрын

Hello from Ohio US!

Our outhouse when growing up just had the occasional radler or viper in there

have had my outhouse for 10 yrs ,get it pumped out about every 3 years ,no paper goes down hole ,it gets burned ,if I had a slope close to the cabin I'd build mine like your ,I have no door so I have a mountain view and it's a short walk between the shop and the cabin ,plus I have more than one ,so in summertime when company is here camping they have their own and it has a 1/2 cut barrel I can pull out and spread each fall ,Yukon 🇨🇦

“Please don’t put that in the video, please don’t”……… highlight of video ❤ I don’t have an outhouse but I am debt free, have a well and septic but I do have a compost setup I can use in the house if needed. I live in northern Minnesota and don’t tolerate the cold very well but I love your set up ! All I would add is some slip on toilet seat covers that can be removed to wash but keep your bare butt off that frozen seat …..old thick wool socks work well :) Slip on if you have an open front seat or you’ll have to sew one with elastic or draw string !!! Blessings

I would go for the well before I'd bother with plumbing and septic. I'm fine with an outhouse and urine diverter compost toilet setup inside . The only electricity needs is for a small computer fan that pulls airflow across the 5 Gal bucket to the outside.

9:30 You just got to thinking about something... Well, you were in the right place for it. I'd be thinking about a heated "office" to do my thinking in. I'd also be thinking about screens for mosquito season because there are certain parts of the human anatomy that you really don't want bitten.

i would love to see abbey & rose get a rely nice . off grid toilet re' designed. to make access from the house in winter with out having to risk the elements in the dark & cold by giving her a corridor to the toilet. & a panted & up graded. the co, pasty in the loo That speaks comfort . & putting the dry toilet to good ues . . as a fertilizer for croups like hay.

I love it, but I would have to have it screened for sure, haha.

I grew up in a country with disgusting outhouses. They use to have trucks pump up the waste when it gets full.. it really stunk and i use to dread having to take a dump because the smell would be so bad.. wood chips would have been a huge help and the compost could rejuvenate a dessert..

I've been stung there just sitting on my bed.

This is cool!! Way to go guys! We really need to talk to you guys about your process. We got an incinerator toilet so we didn't have to deal with any of it but what you guys are doing is great ❤️

Wow😳. A pedestal and some sawdust ✔️. JO JO IN VT 💞🇺🇲

"old video where we made this" oof that one hurt since I remember seeing it come out. Pepperidge farms remembers.

I'm too old for that! 🤣 I live in the woods too, and no public water or sewage line. I have installed a drilled well, and an eco friendly sewage plant, which means I have an inside flushing toilet! ☺ Worth every penny!

I get it!... crunching numbers was your superpower on your previous life and you're using this... but since you're building future now you have to do more... find a stream that you can use, or find the right spot to make a well... you can't depend only on rainwater... a spring would be the best, because it can provide with energy AND water... you can learn how to do stuff, you already know that!... and soon you're goin to need all that and more.... you're about to become a tribe leader pretty soon... so build for the future tribe!

@lesthompson5907

Ай бұрын

with ram pumps to day we do not need expensive wells dad sunk is well & Lind it with bricks he was a miner after all . black powder was used sink the well do not for get your ribbon in the Centre LOL .

Love it. I'm gonna build one on my land when I get it. Cheers J

Great to see Abby !

I've done a lot of projects in recent years in Maine that have included wells and septic systems. Prices in the last 2-3 years have surely gone way up, but I'm _shocked_ when I hear the price differences between the west and the east (in the US). I have family in Washington state and septic & well prices are bonkers out there compared to where I live. My current project included 2 drilled wells and a septic leach field for 3 1 bedroom cabins and a barn with 3 employees (the site is a flower farm with vacation rental cabins). The leach field was more/less $30k, and there are 2 septic tanks the buildings drain into that were $8k each. I drilled two wells, one to 420' one to 270'. The 420' well was abnormally deep, 270' is more typical. The cost of wells have gone up considerably with these being a bit under $30k (the bulk of that being the 420' well that also needed to be fractured to flow more water). Three years ago I did a well for $7k.

This definitely puts it into perspective! I'm wondering what kinds of permits one needs here in my county to have an outhouse. I'm sure there's something! Seems like an acquaintance that built offgrid here said they don't want you to have a residence without a well or being hooked up to the power grid (and septic). Defeats the purpose, which is what govt wants!

Its so true - the sad thing is that we are required to have a septic tank where I live in Arizona, but I can do the cheapest method possible and install a tiny one for 6k so thats what we will do, and just never ever use it because we want to conserve water.. lol in a desert where water is scarce, everyone must waste massive amounts of water becasue its smart...

Brilliant that a load off my mind!!!!!😢😢😢😢

Could you share how your shower/bath process works?? How does your privacy or when-in-use / occupied policy work for the Johnny? Great practical no-nonsense video, thanks for sharing!

You're absolutely right about things costing ridiculous amounts and avoiding debt. HOWEVER, it doesn't HAVE to cost that much. I just had a 1,500 gallon septic system installed for $5,500. I'm having my cabin and workshop wired for approx. $5k (over 3,000 sq ft). I got bids for over $15k on the septic and I'm sure someone would have been glad to rip me off on the electric too but I met good people and I do any of the labor they'll let me. So, the cost of things are crazy but a lot of it is greed and some of it is ridiculous government regulations (we don't have much of that in Kentucky). I bought 20 acres on a river and am building a cabin, separate workshop and barn and expect to come in at less than $250k (debt free). That's not bad in a world where people pay $400k for a 2-3 bedroom in a subdivision so it's still possible to have nice things. I think you're right about debt though, it is to be avoided like the plague and IMHO we're about to see a lot of people suffer because of it.

I have a composting toilet IN my house :) God bless ya'll ❤

I remember watching you guys making this

IF ONLY someone would try and hand me 250k with a stipulation. You need to **** in composting outdoor toilet, with balcony view and a birdfeeder. Year round. :) It looks like the ideal off grid solution. Nice job.

Excellent breakdown. No brainer! TY!

Thanks for another great video

That's a very rustic style outhouse for the savings. I certainly would want something a bit more insulated for the winter, and well vented in the summer. Many designs can be made with cheap materials that would leave you less "exposed" hahaha.

@glennwilck5459

2 ай бұрын

A screen door is all you need to keep the mosquitos away..you don't sit in there too long in the winter lol

😂 I love that thumbnail. My wife gives me that look too often.

Your kids are great.

We had to have our septic replaced a few years ago, to hire someone, and it is to code we paid a little over 7K.

Your best video. This information youve shared is true

Love it, keep it up !!

Could add a small wood Burning stove (heater) in there!

Love the ending! 😂

Well prices are high in the states as well. I am surprised about the cost of a septic system. I would think the big cost for you would be the delivery of the tanks, distribution box, leech field piping and gravel. I had to have my tank replaced about 7 years ago and it cost me around $2500. The prior tank (installed by the original owners) was metal and completely rotted away, plus there was no leech field (only a pipe going to the back of the property), so the contractor dug a trench and a hole and filled the hole with gravel and made me a dry well. I will need to have a leech field installed in the near future. All I need to do is have a perc test done, which I can do myself and then an engineering drawing of the field for the appropriate amount of footage of the leech field. Those close to bodies of water, rivers and streams or other houses will have to have a more sophisticated septic system installed that would cost much more.

I went throught this a while back design in my area was literally a sketch drawn plan on a piece of paper where the items were going. excavation wasnt that deep and we could have dug it up using shovels in about a month or two but luckily a friend lent us an excavator for a day. tanks, plastic(concrete are being phased out) in my area and only needed one pipe?(i guess plumbing?) sand/gravel this is what you need to draw into the plan as well, they tell you how much you need dont know anything about lift pumps, we have to call to get it pumped if needed this to me seems like the price of offloading the work. Too nuts but my experience is WA state codes and prices total was around $12k freedom units funny memory this triggered, there was another friend(lower elevation) that spent about a year digging a well with a shovel. Every day after work he spent 3 hours just digging, crazy...

Now what if it had double barn doors where you can close bottom section and open top to look out or for winter close it all up and have a rocket stove inside with a wire cage filled with rocks to retain heat . But the concept is great.

I love the way you look out for money. American or Canadian. It's a lot cheaper to take a dump with a view than pay the Government.

love this channel

I think they could make an enclosed path towards it and add a heating system.

Thank's for sharing where all the bacon goes, maybe more details next time xD

PRO TRICK: Keep your toilet seat indoor in the winter, so its nice and warm when you gotta go!

We call it a Thunderbox in Australia

Have you thought about a homebiogas digester? Really cheap, and gives you endless gas for cooking etc.

I can remember back when I was just a little guy, almost everyone in the countryside had outhouses.

Me eating rye cereal while watching this was definitely a mistake 😨😂

My neighbour drilled 3 times and never got water, refused to pay, then moved lol

Difference between composting toilet inside house and outhouse in the great outdoors? Beyond having to empty on a more regular basis? Bad experience with critters at family cabin outhouse at a tender age so more of a composted toilet in protected area fan…

should have bought property with a stream on it. Love what you do otherwise reminds me of my brother

Utube high days are over buddy..... Not happening anymore.... 2012 it had the world in its grip 😊😊😊 some people are still pushing their luck 😊 too much to watch 😊 don't know what to watch 😊 many channels disappeared 😊 but nice to see people living their dream

Contemplation vs constipation = liberation lol😂😂😂

Abby at the. Lol glad to didn't edit that out😂

Why does no one ever build a hallway to the outhouse? Door on either end. It's my dream lol

I use a composting toilet, but mine is INSIDE. NO smells or insects ever. How? I use a plastic 5-gallon bucket with an $8 snap-on toilet seat & lid, but (and this is KEY) I don't do my business in the bucket! I do my business in a tall plastic kitchen trash bag with draw strings that I place INSIDE the bucket. My bucket stays clean and dry. Everything else is the same. I use it and change out the bags weekly. They go into a dedicated compost bin or sometimes into any convenient waste can - like the one provided at my gas station. I buy some gas and leave a little sealed-up bag in the trash can next to the gas pump. I've done this for years. I let the "humanure" compost 2 years before spreading it on pasture. I raise cattle. Edit: I don't compost the plastic bags. I slice the bottom, dump the contents and pyrolise the plastic in a solar-powered retort, which turns plastic into fuel.

@blackberrythorns

2 ай бұрын

the writer paul kingsnorth does something similar in western ireland.

First I just love you guys really do. What a team! I too live in Can. OK sit down this will hurt some maybe. I installed my septic for 3k but I had a backhoe. tank was $1300. PVC and sand fitting etc. $1700. You can put in a dug well basically surface water well, as only use it for flushing the toilet. Use concrete well liners. Puhase a couple for $400- $600 depending on depth. 12 volt transfer pump $50. The toilet would be gravity-fed as it is higher than the tank. You may be convincing yourself of this and don't mind roughing it. But I'm sure that ur wife and daughters feel much differently. Wait until you get older... ur still a buck. When ur bones start aching no one likes cutting logs in the freezing cold. The women in ur life deserve this. Thats under 4K Wouldn't that be the best anniversary gift ever... rofl 🤔😂

it is so cool :-) What about smell issues? Is it bad when you sit there and how far away can you smell it?

"... there ... " 😆😅🤣

Love your girls.

Bro, this is government contraband. 😂😂🙌

Could you put a heat lamp in the out house to turn on while you are in there so it's a little warmer.. just wondering kaye

Do solids and liquids go in the same place? I've seen some where you have to separate your No1 and No2

Another great video about common sense! How's Sarah? Are you grandparents now? When will she be in one of your videos?

Hmmmm the numbers don’t lie … thanks Eh ! Fellow Canadian here residing in Utah and man I want out of the system

The Well I can understand... but if you just watch a few youtube videos, you can set your own septic tank pretty easily. The hardest part would be all the digging. If you had your own little excavator, then you would have it beat-- all it takes is time. If you could borrow a friends excavator or back hoe, etc.. Or you could RENT one.. You could plan it out and with non-stop digging.. You could probably get the tanks set and dig all the leaching lines out in maybe 2 weeks.. it's really not that hard. You don't have to use concrete tanks.. They sell big plastic septic tanks for around a thousand each.. Plus you have that hill where you could direct some runoff if needed.. and minimize the amount of lateral lines needed for the leech field.. You could definitely do it yourself-- if you just had easy access to water.