Animation game staying strong :)

@TheOperationsRoom

6 ай бұрын

Thanks Alex!

@chloehennessey6813

6 ай бұрын

Hi Mr Drach! Come to the ranch here in Texas. I have a few rifles with fun switches for you to play with.

@beepboop204

6 ай бұрын

am i wrong in assuming that Drach is the King of the Boat People?

@tyree9055

6 ай бұрын

@Drachinifel When you story boyz can describe all of these individual ship's actions in one paragraph, then I'll know that watching a graphic representation of the battle has been displaced! 🤣👍 Keep the colorful explanations coming, though! 😂

@michaelusswisconsin6002

6 ай бұрын

@@TheOperationsRoomAnother battle you should do is the Legend of Y29 during Operation Bodenplatte.

USS Heermann, a destroyer, not taking any major damage after fighting FIVE BATTLESHIPS and burning the super structure of their lead, is a real life example of plot armor.

@destruct0503

6 ай бұрын

TWICE! the madlads did it TWICE

@proy3

6 ай бұрын

"That was the moment where the Heermann decied that they were, in fact, the main character."

@joegerkrep7727

6 ай бұрын

“…Until finally, the impossible happened. It was the one moment in our lives when he was not as strong as he believed and I was not as weak. It was the moment that made everything else possible.”

@dubious_potat4587

6 ай бұрын

USS Heermann armour: 19 mm steel 10000 mm plot

@PaletoB

6 ай бұрын

You'd think it would make for a great movie but they'll probably just make another pearl harbor... 😖

As a wise man once said, had the Johnston not sunk, it would've rammed the Yamato and her crew would commence boarding actions

@kyleemery2798

6 ай бұрын

No doubt! Evans would have led the boarding party himself with an officers sidearm

@highlander723

6 ай бұрын

I can totally picture him saying "Grab your rifles grab your pistols and grab your knuckle breakers boys were going aboard!!!"

@skullsaintdead

6 ай бұрын

​@@krispypriest5116FORWARD MEN! (Reminds me of Lt Irving from The Terror S1).

@Xingmey

6 ай бұрын

a wise man? you mean an idiotic boaster - like those 14 year olds in the school cafeteria

@brotlowskyrgseg1018

6 ай бұрын

Legend has it that during the battle the ghost of Admiral Nelson himself appeared on her bridge saying: "Splendid work lads", then pointed towards the Yamato and exclaimed: "Now bring me alongside her at pistol shot!"

The timing of publishing this episode can't be more perfect. Less than 24 hours ago, SECNAV announced that one of future Arleigh Burke-class, the DDG-141, will be named USS Ernest E. Evans after USS Johnston's captain. She'll be the 2nd ship bearing the name after the first, Dealey-class destroyer escort (DE-1023).

@madijeis4320

6 ай бұрын

They should name a goddamn fleet carrier after him, Christ what an amazing display of seamanship

@certaintngs2000

6 ай бұрын

@@madijeis4320 Evans was a 'TIN CAN' MAN of action!

@ShimrraJamaane

6 ай бұрын

Ok, I'm losing my mind. I thought they had already decided this months ago. Did I just happen to overhear it being the top choice of a list of proposed named, perhaps? I can't even find anything on Google. This doesn't feel like deja vu, either. Yeah, I think I lost my mind ...

@richardmalcolm1457

6 ай бұрын

Outstanding.

@certaintngs2000

6 ай бұрын

@@ShimrraJamaane go to the Wikipedia page, List of Arleigh Burke-class destroyers all the way to the bottom.

USS Johnston: The destroyer that fought to the end. USS Samuel B. Roberts: The destroyer escort that fought like a battleship Taffy 3: The escort carrier group that fought like an armada

@wawa8408

6 ай бұрын

ORP Piorun. A pain in the ass for a BB.

@titan133760

6 ай бұрын

USS Heermann: The destroyer with plot armor

@danagiles5100

5 ай бұрын

"And won"

@jaiclary8423

4 ай бұрын

Doesn't sit quite right. Samuel B. Roberts is quite literally known as "The destroyer escort that fought like a battleship." You can't give the Johnston the same title, it just doesn't feel right. For one thing, it cheapens just how insanely the Roberts fought above its weight-class. For another, the Johnston clearly counts for at least 2 battleships.

@wordsshackles441

4 ай бұрын

This is the American account of the event and exclusively so, including the lies. For instance USS Johnston is a nice fairytale but there is no way the IJN got so bad at aiming in the space of 2 years that an entire armada became seemingly incapable of taking down a single charging destroyer.I recommend people to take their distance with such youtube content. It's fun to watch and it's well made, but these are in no way accurate accounts of the events of WW2.

Gambia Bay: "We are under attack, please help!" Taffy 2: "k" *fucks off*

The fact that there has never been a proper Battle off Samar movie is rather disappointing. This last stand is up there with Rorke's Drift as one of History's greatest. The events within are cinematic in scope, ships dancing through shell fire, rain storming everywhere, pilots making desperate impossible runs, the imperturbable Ernest Evans with his one liners...this is the kind of thing that would be perfect for a Hollywood war movie Maybe someday

@RCAvhstape

6 ай бұрын

Hollywood is incapable of making a good movie about this anyway, so it's just as well. Besides, it's so incredible that few people would believe it's a true story.

@andrewzheng4038

6 ай бұрын

It’s kinda crazy, so many important and filmable things in the Pacific Theater but Hollywood would rather rehash the same tired Pearl Harbor-Midway arc for the ten gazillionth time

@RCAvhstape

6 ай бұрын

@@andrewzheng4038 And every time they redo Pearl or Midway they make it worse.

@keptinkrunchactual

6 ай бұрын

@@RCAvhstape Fact!!

@mortemvenientem8147

6 ай бұрын

When I first heard this story, that was the only thing bouncing sound in my mind. It's so absolutely insane. I think Hollywood is too vein for such a movie, the script is already written better than anything they could write and they wouldn't get to have "creative license" with it so they ain't touching it. Sad hut ya know 🤷‍♀️😂

The great sacrifice of the USS Johnston and HMS Glowworm are great stories and should be passed on through the generations. Great acts of bravery and courage. 🙏❤️

@wolfu597

6 ай бұрын

Same things goes for the British destroyers HMS Ardent and HMS Acasta. They could not save the carrier Glorious, but their sacrifice was not in vain. One of their torpedoes scored a direct hit on the battlecruiser Scharnhorst, causing 2 of its 3 engines to shut down, killing 53 german sailors, and forced the germans to retreat back to Trondheim, leaving the seas open for the allied evacuation convoy which left northern Norway the very next day, carrying approx. 25 000 allied soldiers.

@Persian-Immortal

6 ай бұрын

Hoel and Samuel B Roberts don't forget them. In fact, Samuel B Roberts is titled a 'Destroyers escort that fought like a battleship'!

@RCAvhstape

6 ай бұрын

I'm convinced that to be a US destroyer skipper in WWII you had to be more than a little bit crazy. It's like they went to elementary schools and picked out the kids who got in the most playground fistfights and groomed them to command destroyers.

@Xingmey

6 ай бұрын

@@wolfu597 Same goes for the bismarck, a german battleship fighting a superior force and destroying HMS Hood should we add more ships? can we name them all? is this whole thread idiotic?

@wolfu597

6 ай бұрын

@@XingmeyWe're talking about the little guys, not the big ones

“We’re almost into 40mm range” is hilarious

In defense of Kurita, his armada had been at general quarters for 3 days, the admiral had his flagship torpedoed and sunk on the first day and had been forced to swim for his life. They had lost Musashi the day before and I believe they were out of anti-aircraft ammunition or close to it. Those men were at the end of their ability to fight. Kurita himself was probably in a borrowed uniform this day.

@hourlardnsaver362

6 ай бұрын

I think he’d also heard news about the Southern Force’s destruction around the time he made the decision to withdraw.

@EliteF22

6 ай бұрын

A major problem with any defense of Kurita, is that the IJN knew this was make or break for them. If they didn't manage to inflict a severe loss on the USN and US Army at Leyte, their fleet was doomed to either rot at anchor from lack of fuel or be picked off from the air. This was a battle where retreat wasn't an option. Due to the layout of the Phillipines, there was no other island where their surface warships would be able to close the distance with the USN. The fact Kurita didn't even attempt to try to shell the landing area or the transports, shows what a complete and utter failure the battle was for him.

@dmurvihill

6 ай бұрын

He's an admiral, making good decisions in a bad situation is his only job.

@GintaPPE1000

6 ай бұрын

@@EliteF22 Even if Kurita pressed on, it wouldn’t have changed anything. At best he would’ve gone down under an anvil-and-hammer from Halsey to the north (especially Mitscher’s carriers) and Oldendorf to the south, and sacrificed the tens of thousands of men under his command just to delay American reconquest of the Philippines by a few months. He was aware further sacrifice wouldn’t achieve anything in the long run, and that more bloodshed would just encourage the US to impose a heavier price for victory when that came.

@internetzenmaster8952

6 ай бұрын

It is quite likely that Kurita was suffering a mild concussion as a result of the Atago's sinking (hence why he continued to fail to recognize that no, those were not Halsey's carriers he was looking at), which likely affected his ability to focus properly on the task at hand.

I’m so glad you mentioned the Japanese sailors saluting the crew of the USS Johnston as they passed by. Many documentaries do not mention this. I find it fascinating that the enemy salutes them but it’s not unheard of especially when considering that the Japanese thought it dishonorable to surrender to the enemy. They witnessed how unwavering and determined the crew of the USS Johnston was to stay in the fight even as she was heavily damaged but still throwing everything she had at them, and in honorable fashion gave the crew a salute, and honoring them as a worthy opponent. It’s actually quite humbling. Edit: I do apologize for the duplicated comments, my phone does this sometimes 😂.

@hourlardnsaver362

6 ай бұрын

How fitting that those sailors were from Yukikaze, Japan’s own famous destroyer.

@CaffeinePanda

6 ай бұрын

@@hourlardnsaver362 Game recognize game.

@hourlardnsaver362

6 ай бұрын

@@CaffeinePanda Makes sense that her crew would respect a destroyer that held out and fought for so long, especially since so many Japanese destroyers were sunk throughout the war.

@internetzenmaster8952

6 ай бұрын

The fact it's not mentioned more often is more infuriating when you consider how the Imperial Japanese Army (who were the allies/rivals/mortal enemies of the IJN leading up to/during the War) was going on and on about how cowardly the Americans were for surrendering again and again. Granted, the IJN had seen this firsthand as well. So to see _an entire ship_ straight up banzai charge the Center Force (which included the IJN's pride the Yamato) and fighting as long as it could was definitely something any serviceman of the IJN would find worth saluting.

@michaelschauf3542

6 ай бұрын

@@internetzenmaster8952 I know that’s right.

"Sir, you broke the rules!" "Okay, what rule did I break?" "Sorry, we're not allowed to tell you that."

17:45 is very important. "Oh, and also American planes show up and knock out two Heavy Cruisers" cannot be understated.

@Martinit0

6 ай бұрын

Avengers avenging.

@TeeBagger

5 ай бұрын

U.S. AIR POWER ON TOP RAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH 🦅🦅🦅🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥

Tragically, many of the men who successfully abandoned their ships died of wounds and exposure in the water over the next several days, as search and rescue was neglected. Far from forgotten, the ships and sailors of Taffy 3 have been memorialized by the Navy, with two ships named after Ernest Evans, two more named after Samuel B. Roberts, (himself a heroic sailor killed in action at Guadalcanal) one for Gunner’s Mate Carr, one for Cdr Copeland, a replacement Johnston, and a replacement Hoel.

@davecrupel2817

Ай бұрын

I feel terrible for those men. Died horribly at sea, after those unbelievable acts of bravery. Never knowing the recognition & rewards they would have gotten for it. :(

My cousin was a TBM radio operator on the Gambier Bay. He drew the short straw and was left on board while the Gambier Bay launched aircraft she could. He survived the sinking, but spent three days in the water while waiting rescue. Great video Ops Room. The Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors is a great book on the exploits of Taffy 3.

It's worth noting that vets of the Hoel and Heerman (at least according to Hornfischer's book iirc) feel a little underappreciated compared to how everyone lionizes the USS Johnston & Samuel B. Roberts & their crews. Given how the USS Heerman went after 5 battleships and came out somehow unscathed while setting one of them on fire while the Hoel was instrumental in helping keep the IJN Yamato in "DODGING TORPEDOS: PLEASE HOLD" mode instead of allowing it to get into 'turn US ships into burning hulks' range, I can understand the gripes they had (especially the Hoel's survivors, given their ship _sunk_ defending Taffy 3).

"We're suckering them in to 40mm range!" - LOL

My great uncle went down with Gambier Bay. A year later his widow married his brother, and a year after that my father was born. This battle is so bittersweet for me because without the terrible tragedy of the death of a brother and husband I wouldn't be here. Thank you for this.

@theawickward2255

6 ай бұрын

If it's any consolation, dying in the Battle off Samar, in an escort carrier that was destroyed by a close-range shot from the world's largest battleship, is a pretty badass way to go.

The fact that we get this kind of content for free is crazy

@t16205

6 ай бұрын

shut up

@outofturn331

6 ай бұрын

Shhhhh

@wordsshackles441

4 ай бұрын

This is the American account of the event and exclusively so, including the lies. For instance USS Johnston is a nice fairytale but there is no way the IJN got so bad at aiming in the space of 2 years that an entire armada became seemingly incapable of taking down a single charging destroyer.I recommend people to take their distance with such youtube content. It's fun to watch and it's well made, but these are in no way accurate accounts of the events of WW2.

@bugboy491

3 ай бұрын

You can probably find the exact battle logs online, from both the Japanese and American perspectives. Also, it's well in the realm of possibility for the USS Johnston to survive for as long as she did - she's a far smaller target, able to easily outmaneuver the Japanese ships. These Japanese ships were made to aim at other behemoths of the same size, not at some tiny destroyer erratically zigzagging through the water. It seems your only warranting for your claim is that you don't believe the Japanese weren't able to sink the Johnston faster, so I'll leave it at that. @@wordsshackles441

I really appreciated the chronology of all the moving parts of this part of the battle. I was unaware of how disorganized the Japanese battle line was or how impactful the air cover actually was. Everything makes a lot more sense now.

@wordsshackles441

4 ай бұрын

This is the American account of the event and exclusively so, including the lies. For instance USS Johnston is a nice fairytale but there is no way the IJN got so bad at aiming in the space of 2 years that an entire armada became seemingly incapable of taking down a single charging destroyer.I recommend people to take their distance with such youtube content. It's fun to watch and it's well made, but these are in no way accurate accounts of the events of WW2.

@danielchen1047

3 ай бұрын

​@wordsshackles441 There is a ton of proof contradicting your statements however. It is well known that during this time, very few japanese ships were equipped with radar, so they had to use colored shells in order to aim, compared to America's extensive use of radar at this time. Additionally, the Japanese account of this event is also rather similar. If you're going to bring up crackpot theories, then at least provide evidence.

I can't believe those three destroyers turned around and ran after getting the request for help.

@thedyingmeme6

Ай бұрын

"Help us for the lovw of fuck!!" "Yep!" *turns around and fucks off*

Ultimately, another factor for IJN losing the battle was human factor. At Surigao Strait Shima retreated instead of helping Nishimura fleet partly due to his personal issues with Nishimura, and at Samar Kurita was very tired and worn out after a few very long days including he having to swim for his life after Atago sank and endured big battles with Musashi and many others sank, and he was not very keen to fight on after encountering a seem to be large fleet Taffy 3.

@Cailus3542

6 ай бұрын

Kurita's incompetence was astonishing. Of course, that's easy to say now from a comfortable chair in 2023, but even so, he really worked hard to lose that fightl.

@BoxStudioExecutive

6 ай бұрын

Having a strategy based on winning a decisive naval battle against the USN but acting incredibly risk averse in almost all situations so as to avoid a decisive naval battle? Typical IJN admiralty

@Martinit0

6 ай бұрын

@@BoxStudioExecutive I'm not getting it. Their deception plan to lure away Halsey worked. They faced only a relatively modest TF3. All Kurita had to do is execute the goddam plan.

@stevemc01

6 ай бұрын

@@Martinit0 Yamamoto in heaven: "You had. ONE. JOB."

@oldfrend

6 ай бұрын

@@Martinit0 not that modest. all the taffys put together could put up a bigger swarm of attack planes bigger than the one that bombed pearl. CF wouldn't have lasted much longer once those fly boys landed and rearmed properly. if kurita believed he was facing halsey's fleet carriers, he had good reason to.

If you imagine the Battle off Samar as a bar room brawl, USS Johnston is basically that one guy who goes around and punches everyone else in the face, at least once, and then goes on to the next guy.

@wordsshackles441

4 ай бұрын

This is the American account of the event and exclusively so, including the lies. For instance USS Johnston is a nice fairytale but there is no way the IJN got so bad at aiming in the space of 2 years that an entire armada became seemingly incapable of taking down a single charging destroyer.I recommend people to take their distance with such youtube content. It's fun to watch and it's well made, but these are in no way accurate accounts of the events of WW2.

@cookiecraze1310

4 ай бұрын

​​@@wordsshackles441I feel like this is insulting to the time channels like OR spend researching these and vastly underestimate how hard it is to aim a battleship's, or even heavy cruiser's, guns. They're a tiny ship up to 3 kilometers away making wild manoeuvres at high speeds against slow firing, very inaccurate, high dispersion guns. With how fraught the Japanese crews were before the battle (the captain himself had had to swim off his sinking flagship just before the battle, and the crews had been on general quarters for 3 days). A destroyer's speed is their protection and destroyers are the direct counter to battleship's and heavy cruisers because of the disparity in guns. + Both sides have records of this battle.

@wordsshackles441

4 ай бұрын

I had a bit of a back and forth on the subject with Drachnifel, and when I asked him to reveal his sources, he vaguely pointed me towards the 'Senshi Sosho - volume 41' that treats the Battles of Leyte. He eventually admitted that since he cannot read Japanese, he 'got help' from some Japanese friends. I repeatedly asked him to point me towards the actual section of the volume relative to the battle of Samar and any section that may contain a trace of the spectacular and improbable maneuvers of the three destroyers, but he just vaguely pointed me towards Volume 41. He was incapable of linking me towards the actual page or section of the volume, despite being freely accessible on the NDIS library online. Now that's a fact, I am not making this up. Look, I can respect the nice animations and entertainment value, but the fact is that these guys are not researchers, they are passionate individuals that vaguely regurgitate and vulgarize the allied accounting of the events. They are effective echo chambers of the perceived consensus at best. They say that truth is the first casualty of war,, and history is written by the winners, well you better believe it. Since all the volumes of the Senshi Sosho are freely accessible online now, I am trying to find a reference to these maneuvers, if you are interested, I can get back to you on that. It will take some time though. If not I will leave you alone. PS : Here's an interesting passage on Wikipedia about the Senshi Sosho : 'The history, comprising 102 volumes, the first of which was published in 1966 and the final one in 1980, was compiled from Imperial Japanese Army, Imperial Japanese Navy, other Japanese government records, and personal diaries and records which survived Japan's defeat in the war. Many of the records were initially confiscated by Allied governments, mainly the United States, but were returned to Japan in 1958. One of the many perks of being on the winning side is that you get to confiscate your defeated enemies account of the war for 13 years no less (Ask yourself why), and hand it back to them in whatever trim you so wish.@@cookiecraze1310

My great uncle Edmund was one of the 253 men to go down with the Hoel. I got to meet the remaining survivors at a reunion in the year 2000. I heard their incredible individual stories firsthand but I never knew the details of the battle until today. Thank you.

@awwtv2603

6 ай бұрын

Much respect to your late uncle. I became a US citizen on November 2nd 2023, in the speech, the aid to the governor of Oklahoma gave a speech that said, "I'm here because someone else is not". Lets just say that I cried during the entire speech. I dont cry but that got me hard. I served in the Navy on the USS Carr FFG-52, named after Paul H. Carr who died during this battle, thank you so much

@jackthorton10

6 ай бұрын

Thank you for your service, and lest we forget

The fact that Halsey got away with his screw up because of those sailors sacrifice it’s infuriating to say the least, abandoning the mission pretty much.

@DarthV3622Fkm

6 ай бұрын

Can't agree more. To me the ultimate insult was Carl Vinson insisting that Halsey received the fifth star while Spruance got stuck at 4.

@d.olivergutierrez8690

6 ай бұрын

@@DarthV3622Fkm i will take Spruance over that overrated bull any time, at least he would have stayed in the operation zone and get the job properly, the Americans had the perfect defensive formation in the battle just for halsey to screw the entire northern flank just because he wanted his own midway.

@user-oh6eg4ny3h

6 ай бұрын

Well the thing is Halsey was a aggressive go getter which is a good thing for him to have earlier in war but being too aggressive can get you in trouble as well. The Japanese were aware that Halsey was daring and not afraid to take risks but in this battle it worked against him. It’s good to be aggressive but you also have to know when to do nothing like in here. Just protect the landing fleet and do nothing more.

@dimasgirl2749

6 ай бұрын

Well, it only seems that way because Taffy 3 pulled a surprising victory. I'm sure if they hadn't, Halsey would have been in hot water for sure.

@user-oh6eg4ny3h

6 ай бұрын

@@dimasgirl2749 yea the Japanese decoy was not out of nowhere. They were fully aware that Halsey was a daring and risk taker man and they calculated that he would blunder and he did but lucky the amercian small fleet caused problems for the Japanese attack navy

Reading this from our history book, hearing this from our lectures… as a Filipino, I can definitely say that our books and lectures didn't give justice to this historical event. It's a pivotal event and yet, all I heard and read was that "This is the greatest naval battle of all time." This video helps me piece all the pieces and see the entire picture. Those valiant people made me really want to cry on how they're willing to go to such lengths and turn around that battle. I heart fully thank you for giving justice to this masterpiece!

I've been looking forward to this video, a battle that is the truest definition of David tossing a rock at Goliath. The Johnston and the Samuel B Roberts didn't sink due to shelling, but from the massive weight of the balls on their crews. And as for hitting 1mil subs, you've earned it Operations Room, your videos are consistently of top quality and truly riveting storytelling. I'm here for the long haul with you.

@KaoretheHalfDemon

6 ай бұрын

They didn’t sink… they engaged submarine mode!

@supersolo6

6 ай бұрын

I'M SAYING!!!!! Balls of absolute 100% IRON!!!!

@certaintngs2000

6 ай бұрын

@@supersolo6 Bethlehem Steel or The Gary Works either way American Steel, born in the USA!

@wordsshackles441

4 ай бұрын

This is the American account of the event and exclusively so, including the lies. For instance USS Johnston is a nice fairytale but there is no way the IJN got so bad at aiming in the space of 2 years that an entire armada became seemingly incapable of taking down a single charging destroyer.I recommend people to take their distance with such youtube content. It's fun to watch and it's well made, but these are in no way accurate accounts of the events of WW2.

Good timing, SECNAV announced DDG-141 USS Ernest E. Evans just yesterday! Finally we get a destroyer named after one of the best and most badass destroyer captains in naval history.

Commander Evan's last seen battling the enemy and leading his men bare chested. This needs a full movie. I remain convinced there is an afterlife where Evan's can continue to fight with the spirit of Johnston. They were escort ships but fought as capital ships.

@hourlardnsaver362

6 ай бұрын

If you look at photos of Johnston’s wreck, all her remaining guns from the 5-inchers to the 20mms are still trained out to starboard. The old girl went down swinging.

The fact that this channel has only just now hit 1 million subs is proof that quality historical content like this is criminally underrated.

Couple minor corrections. Takao Kurita was a Vice Admiral by the time of this battle, not a Rear Admiral. And while St. Lo was the first major U.S. warship sunk by kamikazes this wasn’t the first time the tactic had been used as Taffy 1 had been fighting off kamikazes most of the morning. Taffy 1 was also commanded by a Thomas Sprague (no relation to Clifton “Ziggy” Sprague) and he was the overall leader of the Taffies.

@wolftamer5463

6 ай бұрын

@@irvhh143 huh

@wordsshackles441

4 ай бұрын

This is the American account of the event and exclusively so, including the lies. For instance USS Johnston is a nice fairytale but there is no way the IJN got so bad at aiming in the space of 2 years that an entire armada became seemingly incapable of taking down a single charging destroyer.I recommend people to take their distance with such youtube content. It's fun to watch and it's well made, but these are in no way accurate accounts of the events of WW2.

@warwatcher91

3 ай бұрын

@@wordsshackles441 Citation needed.

@wordsshackles441

3 ай бұрын

I had a bit of a back and forth on the subject with Drachnifel, and when I asked him to reveal his sources, he vaguely pointed me towards the 'Senshi Sosho - volume 41' that treats the Battles of Leyte. He eventually admitted that since he cannot read Japanese, he 'got help' from some Japanese friends. I repeatedly asked him to point me towards the actual section of the volume relative to the battle of Samar and any section that may contain a trace of the spectacular and improbable maneuvers of the three destroyers, but he just vaguely pointed me towards Volume 41. He was incapable of linking me towards the actual page or section of the volume, despite being freely accessible on the NDIS library online. Now that's a fact, I am not making this up. Look, I can respect the nice animations and entertainment value, but the fact is that these guys are not researchers, they are passionate individuals that vaguely regurgitate and vulgarize the allied accounting of the events. They are effective echo chambers of the perceived consensus at best. They say that truth is the first casualty of war,, and history is written by the winners, well you better believe it. Since all the volumes of the Senshi Sosho are freely accessible online now, I am trying to find a reference to these maneuvers, if you are interested, I can get back to you on that. It will take some time though. If not I will leave you alone. PS : Here's an interesting passage on Wikipedia about the Senshi Sosho : 'The history, comprising 102 volumes, the first of which was published in 1966 and the final one in 1980, was compiled from Imperial Japanese Army, Imperial Japanese Navy, other Japanese government records, and personal diaries and records which survived Japan's defeat in the war. Many of the records were initially confiscated by Allied governments, mainly the United States, but were returned to Japan in 1958. One of the many perks of being on the winning side is that you get to confiscate your defeated enemies account of the war for 13 years no less (Ask yourself why), and hand it back to them in whatever trim you so wish.@@warwatcher91

@xnyxiee1784

3 ай бұрын

Citation needed.@@wordsshackles441

I'm a USN veteran, and whenever I hear or read about the story of Taffy 3 it is always very moving and fills me with immense pride. Thank you Ops Room for telling this story with such accuracy and detail.

Taffy 3 does more before 9am than most task forces do all day.

20:30 really hit me in the guts, the determination and sense of duty among these men is incredible.

@Lewd-Tenant_Isan

6 ай бұрын

The metal image of a badly wounded sailor desperately clutching onto the last shell, determined to give the enemy one last "F you" is powerful

@hoshinoutaite

6 ай бұрын

It was, from what I understand, a very obviously fatal intestinal wound.

@Ben-ek1fz

6 ай бұрын

Can someone tell me psychologically why soldiers/etc do that? Fight to the death?

@gwtpictgwtpict4214

6 ай бұрын

@@Ben-ek1fz You fight for your ship, your mates, your unit. You don't want to let them down.

@Ben-ek1fz

6 ай бұрын

@@gwtpictgwtpict4214 thank u for explaining. Im a civilian I would not know this loyality

To say that all of those American sailors showed true conspicuous gallantry is an understatement. Unreal bravery and courage in the face of unfathomable odds

@inigobantok1579

4 ай бұрын

I like to think this was the battle besides Midway and the Guadalcanal naval battles that finally gave the United States Navy a badge to be the worthy successor of the Royal Navy.

Amazing the volume of 5" fire these destroyers could put out in a short period of time, and accurate too. Also, now I want to learn more about the skipper of Yukikaze.

@jonathansumner669

24 күн бұрын

The 5"/38 was the best dual purpose weapon ever made. it was a big reason why US destroyers were so effective combined with excellent fire control. Even earlier in the war when the us took a lot of losses it was rare for a us destroyer to be outgunned by the enemy. Instead it was torpedo based engagements where the Japanese held a massive advantage.

The fact Johnston could float given the displacement of her crew’s testicular fortitude is a miracle of seamanship.

Another fun fact about this battle. It also has the deepest shipwreck ever Identified at almost 23,000 feet! One of the little heroes Samuel b Roberts.

I just want to say thank you for this. My Great Uncle was on the Johnston during this and this is how he was KIA. I'm so glad I could get a visualization to see how brave a valient they fought and knowing they didn't give up without a fight. This means alot!

@wordsshackles441

4 ай бұрын

This is the American account of the event and exclusively so, including the lies. For instance USS Johnston is a nice fairytale but there is no way the IJN got so bad at aiming in the space of 2 years that an entire armada became seemingly incapable of taking down a single charging destroyer.I recommend people to take their distance with such youtube content. It's fun to watch and it's well made, but these are in no way accurate accounts of the events of WW2.

@cheesehands3112

4 ай бұрын

@@wordsshackles441 You're a literal idiot.

@bananaguy3024

3 ай бұрын

@@wordsshackles441bro is onto nothing 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

Johnston is SO EPIC (thanks Drach) and I would love to see it

@Drachinifel

6 ай бұрын

Hello 😂

You guys seriously deserve the success you have. Your team does a great job and I've learned a lot about various world conflicts I would have known little to nothing about otherwise.

@aaronishii5874

6 ай бұрын

Right?

We were going over our family’s roles in WW2 and it turns out a classmates great grandpa was the one who found the fleet originally when he was told to check the radar

So many heroics in this battle. Where in the world was Halsey?

The first I'm hearing about Taffy 2 withdrawalin unscathed. The men overboard were left there an inexcusable amount of time too. Excellent briefing. Thank you.

Samuel B Roberts: The Destroyer Escort that fought like a Battleship. An absolutely legendary story of bravery.

@wordsshackles441

4 ай бұрын

This is the American account of the event and exclusively so, including the lies. For instance USS Johnston is a nice fairytale but there is no way the IJN got so bad at aiming in the space of 2 years that an entire armada became seemingly incapable of taking down a single charging destroyer.I recommend people to take their distance with such youtube content. It's fun to watch and it's well made, but these are in no way accurate accounts of the events of WW2.

@afroking2448

Ай бұрын

@@wordsshackles441 Making a claim like that and not giving any counter proof is stupid af.

@wordsshackles441

Ай бұрын

@@afroking2448 I had a bit of a back and forth on the subject with Drachnifel, and when I asked him to reveal his sources, he vaguely pointed me towards the 'Senshi Sosho - volume 41' that treats the Battles of Leyte. He eventually admitted that since he cannot read Japanese, he 'got help' from some Japanese friends. I repeatedly asked him to point me towards the actual section of the volume relative to the battle of Samar and any section that may contain a trace of the spectacular and improbable maneuvers of the three destroyers, but he just vaguely pointed me towards Volume 41. He was incapable of linking me towards the actual page or section of the volume, despite being freely accessible on the NDIS library online. Now that's a fact, I am not making this up. Look, I can respect the nice animations and entertainment value, but the fact is that these guys are not researchers, they are passionate individuals that vaguely regurgitate and vulgarize the allied accounting of the events. They are effective echo chambers of the perceived consensus at best. They say that truth is the first casualty of war,, and history is written by the winners, well you better believe it. Since all the volumes of the Senshi Sosho are freely accessible online now, I am trying to find a reference to these maneuvers, if you are interested, I can get back to you on that. It will take some time though. If not I will leave you alone. PS : Here's an interesting passage on Wikipedia about the Senshi Sosho : 'The history, comprising 102 volumes, the first of which was published in 1966 and the final one in 1980, was compiled from Imperial Japanese Army, Imperial Japanese Navy, other Japanese government records, and personal diaries and records which survived Japan's defeat in the war. Many of the records were initially confiscated by Allied governments, mainly the United States, but were returned to Japan in 1958. One of the many perks of being on the winning side is that you get to confiscate your defeated enemies account of the war for 13 years no less (Ask yourself why), and hand it back to them in whatever trim you so wish

@blazingangel5463

13 күн бұрын

@@wordsshackles441 Then how did you suppose the Battle of Samar actually went despite being well documented?

@JohnSmith-kv7cz

2 күн бұрын

@@wordsshackles441How do you suppose it actually happened? I’d love to see an alternative view considering how unreliable these sources are apparently

Bravery and honour of a kind we will never witness again. Most British are born with the taste of salt water in the mouth, and we had a thousand years with some form of naval warfare experience to call upon. For a fighting force that had never had a major conflict at sea, on the scale of the Pacific war with Japan, the US Navy so fast to learn. Even when they didn't have time to call upon tactics, they were willing to sacrifice themselves regardless. I salute every man, woman, and veteran of the US Navy. We shall never forget the lives laid down in the true name of freedom.

My grandfather was on the Leyte beach during this time. I may not be alive if it weren’t for the bravery of these sailors. Thank you for sharing their story.

I love this channel as much as I despise youtube's terrible monetization policies.

Johnston was just there to help every time others were getting hit! Bravo to everybody involved

Congrats on one million, well deserved.

Congrats 1 million subscribers So deserved honestly when I was going through a tough time in my life your videos helped me get through it

Happy 1 million! Heres to many more!

That capsizing animation is such a flex. How far this channel has come, I'm so here for it.

James Hornfischer's book about this battle is one of the best books I've ever read. An absolute must read if you found this vid interesting, very in depth. "Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors"

@Ozraptor4

6 ай бұрын

Also strongly recommend Evan Thomas's "Sea of Thunder" which goes into in depth biographical detail on Halsey, Kurita, Ugaki & Evans and their decisions leading up to and during the battle. Also details Halsey & Kurita's postwar life and how they handled the controversy regarding their actions at Leyte Gulf.

In 2019 USS Johnston was found on station at the Philippine Trench. In related news no Kijau attacks have been reported in that area.

I often like to make a distinction between things I consider to be my favorite, and things I consider to be the best. This channel is the perfect intersection of both in terms of the topics and stories they tell and the quality of the animations and research.

I read the story of Taffy 3 in my Blue Jackets manual at boot camp. Knowing that I was becoming a (very small) part of that same legacy instilled a bit of pride in me that still hasn't left. Absolute Legends.

Good timing on this video as just yesterday the US Navy announced the will again be naming a ship "USS Evans" in honor of Commander Evans

FYI Heerman mentioned getting hit by red,yellow, and green shells in addition to shells with no colour (This is from Tone). Red is the colour of Kongo's 14 in shells, and Yellow is the colour of Haruna's shell, whilst Green is a mixture of the yellow and the blue seawater (no Japanese ships had green dye). Heerman was damaged near the bow by Haruna at the time listed in the video (8:45-9:00), with shells going underneath the water and hitting her, with some of the splinters from shells missing her puncturing her keel forward. This is estimated by Robert Lundgren at 34 k yards. Kongo and Tone also hit the ship above the waterline at about 30 k yards slightly later at 9:00. Kongo similarly noted that she had sunk a destroyer at that time (although erroneously, it was based on how the bow had sunk by 17ft as per Heerman's own record)

It just got announced yesterday, but Ernest Evens just got an Arleigh Burke named after him (DDG-141) Man deserves a Battleship...but this will do

Hi Operation Room, is it possible you could put the naval battles of ww2 in chronological order? Like a playlist I could watch. That would be very cool. Thanks for your work and entertainment as always.

@AmericanIdiot7659

6 ай бұрын

If I'm not wrong, I believe that you could create your own playlists on youtube.

@steveburton5825

6 ай бұрын

@@AmericanIdiot7659 you seem to be well named... he'd have to watch every episode again to see which fits where which sort of defeats the purpose doesn't it? I would appreciate a history course by theatre as well. It wouldn't be in order of interest perhaps but it would be an important record for those kids in the future who wouldn't get this information from school.

Man you really know how to make history fun.

@aceous99

6 ай бұрын

imagine if they teamed up with Drach!

I want to congratulate all members of The Operations Room for the best depiction of wartime engagements available on the Internet. You do a superb job.

"IJN ships, staggered line. Commander Evans, they outnumbered us 3 to 1" *Then it is an even fight*

Evans was taken by the Valkyries... That's why he was there one moment and gone the next. Amazing telling of this story by the Operations Room. I also highly recommend "The Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors" by James Hornfischer (RIP)

@dimasgirl2749

3 ай бұрын

I like to think his was a case similar to that of Feanor in "The Simarillion", namely his fiery spirit was so strong it incinerated his body as it departed.

Wake up babe, the operations room dropped a new video, oh and bake a cake they just achieved an amazing milestone!

The USS Johnston and USS Samuel B. Roberts wrecks were both recently discovered. They are the deepest ship wrecks ever found.

My grandfather survived the sinking of the St.Lo...he never forgot how the Tin Cans fought like battle wagons that day. Neither will I.

Keep up the good work guys, I love your videos and there isn't anyone else on KZread that have the quality and style that you do!

Ever since I first started following this channel, this is the exact battle and animation I have been waiting for! It's amazing to see how far you have come in that time since!

Thank you, I've seen several good documentaries on the Battle Off Samar, but these maps finally helped me understand Admiral Kurita's decision to withdraw. Center Force had become scattered and disorganized over a wide combat zone making it highly vulnerable to a counterattack - a counterattack he couldn't rule out given the limited information available. If any frontline USN task forces had suddenly appeared on the scene, the IJN would have been massacred. It makes a lot more sense than "Oh, he lost his nerve and quit."

@HomelessEmperor-ps4gs

6 ай бұрын

The man had also not slept in days and been forced to swim for his life after his previous flagship had been sunk, watched one of his superbattleships burn and probably suffered a concussion. When one comparezs his post-battle reports to those of other officers, it's quite clear his mind wasn't clear - the only reason he even knew he was fighting carriers is because he recognized the "starboard side superstructure". Kurita was also fatalist and believed (rightfully) the war was long lost anddid not believe in wasting the lives of the tens of thousands of men he had. with or without hindsight, that seems pretty respectble. I doubt Center Force could have escaped unscathed.

God I can’t imagine the emotions of the crew in the escort carrier below decks such as in the engine room

We have a saying about our Royal Navy, that (many years ago) the ships were made of wood, but the men were made of iron…in this case the US Navy were ALL steel…the bravery coming up against much bigger guns, is beyond comprehension. Thanks Yanks.🙏🏻

Thanks! You guys are great. I have learned so much from your videos over the last couple years. You will always have my support 🙏

A few things. The carrier group used the squalls and smoke from the destroyers engines to help cover themselves as they retreated, which also helped confuse the issue of numbers for the Japanese. At some point, the carriers were certain they would not survive and refused to land their aircraft, directing them to airfields. On those airfields many of the pilots argued about getting refueled and rearmed to get back out to support. The army did not want to waste their supplies on the navy. A naval liaison apparently got into it with the army command and got the authorization. That refusal to land the aircraft showed how doomed the command thought they were.

I cannot read or hear the story of Gunner's Mate 3rd Class Paul H. Carr without tearing up. This is a battle that just arrests me with awe for what these sailors did when the impossible was asked of them. Thank you @TheOperationsRoom for retelling it so well.

Congratulations on hitting the 1M mark! One of the best military history channels anywhere. I’ve been a WW2 history buff for a long time but this is the first time I’ve heard details about this battle. It should be talked about alongside Midway and Coral Sea, especially because of the actions of those destroyers.

I”know’" of this battle very well. But never have I felt it in my soul. all of the people in this battle are amazing on both sides. But as an Anglo I am amazed at how well such individuals of all ranks depicted and displayed such valour in the "face of the enemy” .As long as I live and with your help I shall remember them

The idea of opposing ships sailing next to each other for a while, shooting anything else is hilarious to me.

The lone survivor from the Chikuma only survived because he wasn't picked up by the Nowaki after the battle and drifted to shore on his own...

What more can I say than what has already been said? Great job again good sir! Ive read Hornfishers book a couple of times and I always tear up because of the sheer amount of courage it takes to do what those legends did. We salute those who gave their lives.

thank you so much op room. you deserve so much more. just joined on patreon!

That, "or something" directed at KZread was so gloriously passive-aggressive and I love it

Rip USS Johnston, USS Samuel B. Roberts, and USS Gambier Bay

Hello, I love the videos. I watched basically every video of you guys. Keep up the phenomenal work

Ive been obsessed with these videos....was gutted when i didn't get this second part....keep up the good work guys

I absolutely love your videos. Thank you for preserving these historic battles with the level of respect you have given them. I personally thank you for all you do!

Sean Connery said it best in The Hunt for Red October, “Halsey was stupid.” He fell for a decoy.

While Taffy 3's last stand was amazing, it's hard to imagine what Kurita would have accomplished if he won the battle. At best, he could sink the transports, and then get his whole force destroyed by American carriers/battleships. Even if he sunk the transports, the first landings on Leyte were FIVE days ago. Enough supplies were already ashore. In short, the Philippines Campaign's outcome was already a foregone conclusion regardless of what Kurita did.

Seeing the destroyers from Taffy 2 turn around and run instead of helping is just sad. Shame

Operations Room, I cannot fully express my love for this channel. Thank you so much.

You guys did the best jam on KZread of reporting history how it happened without a slant or bias in any direction. Your research is second to none and I greatly appreciate your hard work. It does show.

Thank you so much for this, my favorite naval engagement outside of Midway of World War 2

hey operatons room! just wanted to thank you for the work you've done. I've been subscribed since your first videos and I am so happy for you 1m sub accomplishment. You truly deserve it. Please, keep it up!

I think all the people who shit on Kurita forget that he had swam for safety after his flagship was sunk less than 2 days earlier. Him and some of his crew on his new temporary flagship probably had minor concussions from that, which would've impeded his ability to make good decisions. And he'd just gotten news of the southern fleet's destruction, and watched this seemingly tiny screening force put up enough of a fight to stop his fleet right then and there. He made the call to save the lives of his men rather than throw them away to buy a few more months. He chose decency over military goals.

Never knew about Evans and the Johnson. I thank you for bringing the memory of them to me. Heroes brave and true.

Seriously?? KZread will say "You broke a policy." without telling you WHAT THE F'N POLICY IS??????

FANTASTIC channel, and my Dad (ex navy) who I turned on to you LOVES your work.

One of the best channels of our lifetime. Thanks for providing quality docs and being honest over the years.

The whole "we can't share the specifics of our policies" thing is the most dystopian 1984 bull ever.