US & Peshmerga Infantry vs Iraqi Tanks, The Battle of Debecka 2003 - Animated
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The US Green Berets and Kurdish Peshmerga launch a new assault against the Iraqi Army in the north of Iraq. At Debecka, they come across a strong Iraqi mechanised force, including tanks. The infantry must hold off the armoured onslaught.
Correction - 4 Green Berets were wounded, not killed, in the friendly fire incident.
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Ай бұрын
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Ай бұрын
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Ай бұрын
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@qwert-jn1rs
Ай бұрын
Just a suggestion. I like these videos, but could you add English subtitles to them? My English is not good, and there is a strange problem with the automatic translation function on the app. If the video does not have subtitles, it cannot be translated into my language
@TheStevenWhiting
Ай бұрын
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Imagine loosing a whole armoured company in a fierce battle, only to realise all the enemy casualties were from their own friendly fire....
@wolfhunter98
Ай бұрын
Not a pilot and I get it's not as easy in real life but when you got 2 lines shooting each other lighting the place up like it's starwars how you think to bomb the blown up tank in the friendly forces direction is a bit wild to me. And even if they somehow didn't know what direction they where going (Can't see a combat pilot doing that) should be very easy to tell. Hey, the double road that's them. The single road abeam to the main double road? That's us. Suppose could be partly to blame on the controller. Bit of a long day, and stress, etc. So who am I to judge sitting here at my keyboard at the end of the day.
@LOKSTED
Ай бұрын
@@wolfhunter98 Ammo, no matter how big, don't necessary light up like the Star Wars blaster fire especially during the day time. The troops on the ground are like ants wearing camo
@maddlarkin
Ай бұрын
The incidents pretty famous, it went out on the BBC as it was captured on camera. If I remember correctly (which I may well not be, it was a long time ago) Simpson said later the ground controller said something like, "do you see the cross roads, do you see the line of tanks?" The pilots confirmed he can see the cross road and tanks and the controller confirmed the strike, not realising that the pilots response describes his position rather than the enemies.
@MisterNi
Ай бұрын
@@wolfhunter98 Well it's easy to say what should and shouldn't have been easy to tell while looking at the battle from a bird's-eye view in relative comfort, but from the animation, if accurate, the combat controller was in one of the vehicles that stayed back and might not have had accurate numbers on the Iraqi tanks. Plus it looks like the fighting was pretty fierce as a platoon sized element of US Army Special Forces were a were fighting off an entire company of both infantry and armor with nothing but small arms and at-the-time still very new and untested Javelin missiles. Granted I was mostly in Afghanistan and didn't take part in Operation Viking Hammer specifically, I will tell you that was very much a Danger Close CAS mission and those are always very dangerous to friendly forces and is never done except in the most desperate of situations. So, I'm not saying someone didn't mess up, but dropping bombs and missiles from anywhere from 5k to 20k feet means you're basically firing blind and relying on the controller to guide your munitions and in this instance someone messed up and people died.
@Robert-hy3vv
Ай бұрын
@@wolfhunter98 The combat controller was terrible, all responsibility lies with him.
That bus driver was like HELL FUCKIN NAW and pulled off that badass 3 point turn.
@ColinFreeman-kh9us
Ай бұрын
Lol, farkn ay !
@WilliamLaurenson
Ай бұрын
Average SQUAD logi driver experience xD
@RapturesBounty
Ай бұрын
Green Barrets: Sick skills bro 😳
@beefs0ck911
Ай бұрын
Average American school bus driver
@LewisB3217
Ай бұрын
“Hold onto your butts!”
Bus driver: "Anyway, that's how I proved my driving license wasn't fake."
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@ZaGaijinSmash
Ай бұрын
Somewhat better product quality than low end cheap Chinese ear buds😂
@RebelPatriot355
Ай бұрын
🤔… SecDef Austin definitely is. 😉
@SkullCollectorD5
Ай бұрын
Money makes us all do weird things, but I'm glad SponsorBlock exists so we can just pretend he wasn't sponsored by the worst earbuds out there.
@Epsilon-18
Ай бұрын
@@SkullCollectorD5 Just admit you're sponsored by SponsorBlock
@AdmiralJT
Ай бұрын
that was last video ago lol
Casually 3 point turning a bus under fire… and some people can’t even parallel park a Prius properly
@grejsancoprative
Ай бұрын
Some can't even reverse to begin with.
@nap0038
Ай бұрын
@@grejsancoprativeguilty as charged 😎
@jrstoelting
Ай бұрын
I feel attacked 😂
@Ordinary_fan
21 күн бұрын
I'm the 1k like😂
*Bus driver filling out a job application in the future* "Describe a stressful situation and how responded to it"
My uncle was one the people that died in the friendly fire airstrike. I was only 10 years old when I heard about his death. He had fought against the iraqi army since the 1991 and were familiar with their tactics. He said (with American technology like the javelin missile. the Iraqi army can be beaten back.) This man was very kind to everyone specially his mother and little sister (who is my mother). We still hang his picture on the wall.
@StevenKeery
Ай бұрын
Pumpkin_Seed: Condolences to you and your family on the loss of your Uncle.
@jean-lucesterhuizen8279
Ай бұрын
i hope that pilot got life in prison at least for his mistake and crime of depriving u of a uncle
@RichUnclePhil
Ай бұрын
@@jean-lucesterhuizen8279no crime was committed.
@jean-lucesterhuizen8279
Ай бұрын
@@RichUnclePhil whether the pilot meant to do it or not he killed alot of people that he was not allowed to, that's wrong in my eyes
@WebShaman01
Ай бұрын
@@jean-lucesterhuizen8279 I'm absolutely sure that the pilot did not wish to bomb his own friendly forces. Mistakes are made in war, sadly. You don't know what instructions and information that pilot(s) had at hand to make a decision from.
I’m surprised the food truck didn’t show up to help feed everyone before they returned to the meatgrinder.
@jason200912
Ай бұрын
The kebab man with a ton of onions
Idk, id be a little worried about a guy programming jdam drop grids that hasnt slept in 24 FUCKING HOURS 😂
@LikeALocofirefly
Ай бұрын
Yeah that seems pretty risky lol
@engineeredtechgaming6349
Ай бұрын
Brother if you would see the shit myself and others do on no sleep, this wouldn’t even concern you.
@PotatoSolutions
Ай бұрын
@@engineeredtechgaming6349 Yeah people underestimate the power of a 20 year old American military man with a nicotine addiction and a can of RipIt
@curtisrodgers5326
Ай бұрын
theres a reason the miltiary, and even more a SOF unit trains you on operating on little no sleep, war is hell and will ask you do things on little to no sleep and with effectively zero margin of error.
@bluedemon9985
Ай бұрын
Ccts are built different
Even if the bus was under heavy fire including 50 cal machine guns, the bus driver managed pull 3 point turn. The driver of the bus must be a legend!
@Envy-ie2wp
Ай бұрын
its my dad, im Iraqi.
@WowBlankpage
Ай бұрын
@@Envy-ie2wpits my dad
@WowBlankpage
Ай бұрын
@@Envy-ie2wploser
Ms. Frizzle takes the kids to Iraq and makes a perfect 3pt turn.
@jasonx1174
Ай бұрын
Somehow, this would not surprise me if that was an actual episode
@imgvillasrc1608
Ай бұрын
She was supposedly going to bring the kids to Uruk 2003 BC as their history field trip.
@jacobcave1587
Ай бұрын
Bruh
@redclayscholar620
Ай бұрын
Seatbelts Everyone!
Amazing story, what a pitched battle. I feel bad for the F-14 crews who have to live with that mistake. The Kurdish are tough as nails.
@mikesmith-wk7vy
Ай бұрын
yep, sending f14s for ground support in those days was a poor choice . the f14 was an air superiority fighter and it was adapted for LGBs it was not a fitting role for the fighter or its crew. the crew probably spent most of their training on dogfighting and protecting the fleet from bombers and missiles , before the D model there was no emphasis on ground attacks
@memesfarsi3111
Ай бұрын
I feel bad for families of those 80 Peshmarga when they found out thier beloved one died because of friendly fire
@cristi1145
Ай бұрын
@@memesfarsi3111only 18 but still
@memesfarsi3111
Ай бұрын
@@cristi1145 sorry mate I thought he said eighty. My bad. But 18 sis still a lot for a friendly fire incident
@ateslabattery115
Ай бұрын
@@memesfarsi311180 wounded I believe
Just a correction, there weren't 4 Green Berets killed in the friendly fire incident, they were wounded.
@Letterman0412
Ай бұрын
Yes, had noticed that might be a mistake. Looked around and couldn't find anything to corroborate four green berets were killed.
@Romanticalman
Ай бұрын
I saw that on wiki
@PlunkofHAY
Ай бұрын
@@Romanticalmanas soon as I heard "4 Green Berets killed" my jaw dropped and I went straight to google.
@samuelp.1022
Ай бұрын
He corrected it in the description
@gunny923
Ай бұрын
Logic would tell u America would never conform that they were actually killed by friendly fire they rather lie and say they where wounded or it did not happen at all we all know America would lie for the simplest things
Just for correction; Erbil was already under Kurdish control before war, no battle happened in city. To add more; Commander in Chief of Kurdish peshmerga General Wajih Barzani, brother of Kurdish president Masoud Barzani was critically injured in that friendly fire, totally disabled still can't walk. and Thanks for American heroic soldiers who saved Kurdish people, yes your government might be bad, but you are amazing warriors doing god's work. All respect
@OlOleander
Ай бұрын
Respect and love to the Kurds. They deserve their own state. They deserve better than to have been abandoned. I knew a guy from my time in uniform who fought with the Peshmerga, and he had high praise for them, their courage, and their loyalty. Someday, we will make things better - together.
@thecamocampaindude5167
21 күн бұрын
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@raidermaxx2324
17 күн бұрын
Sorry for Donald Trump
@Jortcadet
14 күн бұрын
@@raidermaxx2324how are things in Middle East with Joe Biden going?
@raidermaxx2324
14 күн бұрын
@@Jortcadet would have been alot better if Trump hadnt kicked off the war by moving the embassy to fucking Jerusalem,--- ---that if you recall (which im sure you dont because people like you dont pay attention to actual fucking news) but at that time, HAMAS stated that this was a declaration of war by the United States and Israel, and reprisals would be coming. . Oh and lets not forget, who assassinated Iran's TOP fucking general for no reason?? Oh that's right! Donald fucking Trump!! And what did Iran say, after Trump murdered that general, using a raptor drone? Oh that's right- that this was essentially an act of war, and reprisals would be coming.. Shit takes time, and if Trump hadnt been humiiated by being kicked out of office after only one term, he would be having to deal with the consequences of his stupid actions.. but it hjust so happens that Biden has to clean up yall's mess, as per usual Lol So shut the fuck up
During the height of the ISIS terror, I heard on the news how the Peshmerga were the US' traditional allies in the middle east. I've never heard of them until then, and now I'm glad someone more mainstream is detailing their involvement in the 2003 invasion. Edit: I hope you do an Intel Report on the Kurds and their relations with the West, Turkey, and other neighbors
@LewisB3217
Ай бұрын
Really sad what happened with the Kurds, they fought hard against ISIS and got betrayed and hunted by Turkey for it
@rightfeelI
Ай бұрын
what's funny is kurdish forces have been longest lasting US ally without betraying it like they have always been loyal to US unlike Turkey and Israel who are the "official allies" yet Trump betrayed them and gave the green light for Erdogan to rain hell on them and abandoned them in Iraq for Iran to bomb them, a real tragedy
@TheKurtkapan34
Ай бұрын
@@LewisB3217 al qaeda also fought against ISIS, it's not that high of a bar.
@jamiegray6931
Ай бұрын
@@TheKurtkapan34 ISIS formed from Al-Qaeda, they are not comparable to the Peshmerga.
@sierrakilo4322
Ай бұрын
It’s even more weird that Turkey considers them a terrorist organization and kills them. When I was In Iraq the Kurds were homies. Good fighters and down for the cause. Meanwhile Turkey, a NATO country was actively hunting them down in a different part of the world 🤷♂️ but somehow we were Allie’s with both of them…
Absolutely devastating blue on blue- wouldve been a perfect battle without it. Rest in peace to our brave fallen- those who laid down their lives for liberty.
@mrsupremegascon
Ай бұрын
Liberty ? REALLY ??? They didn't died for liberty lol. That's the crime of this war. Those brave men died for some politicians ego and money. USA invaded a country to seize some oil fields and shut down an anti-american critic like a bunch of thugs. No better than what Russia do in Ukraine. Yes Saddam was a bad guy on Western standards, but ask most Iraqis today, and they would tell you they preferred Iraq when it was ruled by him, instead of todays USA backed mobsters. Shame on Bush and on people that act as if USA made a just war there.
@matthewbarabas3052
Ай бұрын
a perfect battle would have been over much sooner, since the iraqi armor would have been hit and destroyed well before the actual battle. this is just a failure of planning.
@SI0AX
Ай бұрын
@@matthewbarabas3052 The armour was unexpected. The unprepared air support may have been due to the massive bombing campaigns going on before this battle. Only excuses I can think of, but the friendly fire was BS. I'm just wondering if the pilots just eyeball and manually drop the bombs instead of using laser guided targeting. Edit: I know they couldn't get laser. If they did, they would have Javelined them all. What I thought they would do is call in a danger close air strike with grid designation on the tanks positions. The only tank to move out of the same position the whole battle was blown up by a Javeline.
@matthewbarabas3052
Ай бұрын
@@SI0AX the armor shouldnt be unexpected. the first rule in the military is that you need to scout. you need to know everything before you make a move. even video games highlight the importance of scouting. there are no excuses for that.
@LaikaTheG
Ай бұрын
@@SI0AXf14s had lantirn tpods so I’m sure they had laser guided weapons but the issue is that you still don’t know what is what. The men were standing next to a dead t55 so I’m sure they thought it was an Iraqi position. I don’t think IR strobes existed yet
I remember watching the coverage of this at the time. The clothes were literally blown off the BBC reporter during the F14 blue on blue. It was absolute carnage and I still can't believe he survived plus was able to stumble about and make a broadcast. Peak wartime journalism! edit: RIP to all in that incident, I'll always remember the journalist gave a very honourable account of the translator at the time.
a small recommendation - adding a scale somewhere on the screen would be nice to give a better of idea of ranges, etc :)
@antred11
20 күн бұрын
I've been requesting this so many times on so many channels (for years), but no one seems to think it's necessary. :(
Helping the Kurds was probably one of the few good things that came out of this conflict.
@anthonymcmxcviii6549
Ай бұрын
And their subsequent abandonment (Especially after all their work against ISIS) is one of the worst things done by our government.
@nikoclesceri2267
Ай бұрын
@@anthonymcmxcviii6549"abandonment" we gave them their independence, it's not our job to fight all of their battles. especially since they are on the other side of the fucking globe.
@TonyDSG
Ай бұрын
@@nikoclesceri2267Kurdistan is a recognized state now? You sound so fucking dumb
@Baddy187
Ай бұрын
@@nikoclesceri2267Veey true, and they don't have a harbor and don't border any friendly countries. According to previous commenter the US is supposed to do a 20 years air supply campaign 😂
@drksideofthewal
Ай бұрын
@@nikoclesceri2267 Having obligations to allies is what comes with being the superpower and “world police,” that’s the job. The Kurds were a valuable ally that were hung out to dry… for what gain?
No doubt one of the best history channels out there. Information is easy to learn because of the animation and takes itself seriously. Love you guys
If you wrote the events of this battle into a fictional war novel, you'd probably have your editor say 'tone that one down, there is too much happening, school buses doing 3 point turns under fire, tanks appearing to cavalry charge a defensive position, friendly fire incidents, surrendering soldiers being battlefield executed by extremists... that kind of stuff is too far fetched...'
@kirgan1000
18 күн бұрын
and the Iraq commander uses competent tactics, and the Iraq soldier act brave and competent and push the American forces hard.
every time i see a new video from this series it makes my day instantly this has got to be some of the best content ever made on yt imop...the channel blowing up is well deserved always quality
Great work on all these videos. I really appreciate that you highlight the actions and reflections of the individuals who were there. Keep it up!
Good graphics and explanation. Gave a real feel for the battles.
Easy to be critical of the air support, but remove all the tracer fire and take off all those handy flags from this sand table and you see a single line of engagement midway between two cross-roads, both of which are covered by tank formations. Even the on the ground controller can’t see it from within the battle, but he described his own position as well as the enemy’s. I could see this coming in the narrative well before I realised which famous blue-on-blue incident was about to be described. All the other correct attack runs will be made by picking the correct approach vector, which looked like it needed a turn over enemy territory to defeat the sand-ridge. This means a lot of work for the navigation/EW/weapons controller in the Tomcat’s second seat. Air support maybe easier to achieve in the desert, but the target description shows just how little distinct features there are to pick-out in these battle-spaces. Laser designators or just firing colored smoke at the enemy can make a massive difference.
@littlekong7685
Ай бұрын
This is why Canada and Britain used IR flags to self identify to friendlies in the various desert wars, unfortunately some US airmen are trained to target IR flags as hostile markers not friendly markers. Communication is key and also not terribly well trained between branches within coalition forces. EG: US airforce to British airforce, great comms, US Infantry to Canadian navy, not so good.
This the most heart-wrenching episode yet, I'm literally yelling at the screen "Get the tanks!"
Excellent battle and analysis. It's a shame that the friendly fire incident occurred. I suppose the Kurds are experts because they are always fighting.
@memesfarsi3111
Ай бұрын
Kurds are expert in Gorila fighting, their most professional group is Gorila Girls, but they can't do anything against a modern army cause they don't have any tech to fight back, but for Gun fight they are top notch
Always excellent analysis.
Despite the loses and such, it strikes me that the Iraqi attack showed more coordination and use of combined arms tgan anything ive seen out of the RUS-UKR conflict.
I'm so confident of your quality, I hit the like button before I even watch the video LOL!
@JSFGuy
Ай бұрын
How smart is that? Is tomorrow's dinner good?
@negativeindustrial
Ай бұрын
@@JSFGuy Your mom generally cooks well when I come over.
@unclepauly3205
Ай бұрын
@@JSFGuy felt smart for a sec didnt ya lol
@JSFGuy
Ай бұрын
@@unclepauly3205 Right renter, MYOB. Something you know nothing about.
@JSFGuy
Ай бұрын
@@negativeindustrial hahaha how original never heard that before. Speaking of, don't you need to clean your room? Go upload some content or something already to your channel
Excellent overview of the battle. One small correction, if I may. The BUFF was a single ship (that was normal), and the weapons were 27, 750 pound M117s (again, a normal loadout for the internals). Absolutely excellent! Your research for the account of the battles is to be commended. Well done!
nothing better than some quality Ops Room content
another great video about the iraqi war, thank you for these videos
Ngl, naming a defensive position after a place that is _famous_ for failing as a defensive position is very bold
@MongooseJakeNerf
Ай бұрын
Wouldn't really say that, the Alamo sort of did the same thing that Thermopylae did, hold up a far superior force for far longer than it should've.
@tmike_tc
Ай бұрын
@@MongooseJakeNerf and eventually fell with the loss of nearly all, in both cases, so...
@deusexmachina3091
Ай бұрын
@@tmike_tc Both objectively great defensive positions though lol
@halogeek3784
Ай бұрын
@@tmike_tc Both were very much Pyrrhic Victories for the attackers and created an advantageous situation for the defenders shortly thereafter
Love this channel, awesome content.
Sir, I follow your channel and am impressed with it’s content. However in your last remarks for this battle you stated that the allies were victorious despite being the lesser side completely ignoring the fact that the air support gives a total new dimension to the battle. Thank you.
I love these! i always look forward to your videos!!!!
Another fantastic video about OIF. The media coverage at the time made it look like a cakewalk - glad to see some the added context and depth to the topic.
@or6397
22 күн бұрын
Because it was and that’s what the video shows.
Lets be real here, the GB, US SOF told their allies to retreat first, they did not phase out first, they held while their allies retreated first. That is something to note if your an ally. If the people who aren't from your country, who are fighting on your behalf, put your lives first, who stand with you. In particular if they are highly skilled forces like US SOF huge morale boost.
It would be nice if you could add some faint topographic lines on the maps (faint enough to see) but not detract from the amazing animation. Just really difficult to get an idea of the elevation and ridges and hills, especially the 2nd hill they retreat to.
A very clear, and truly excellent map and explanation !
The 4 SF operators listed as killed @20:09 were wounded in the airstrike. No US SOF troops were killed in this incident. Despite being directed onto the T-55s, the first GBU-16 (1000LB) bomb landed among friendly forces, including a Green Beret AOB (Advanced Operational Base) at Objective Rock. The F-14 pilot got confused and targeted an old rusting hulk of a similar T-55 at Objective Rock rather than the four engaging the ODAs. The bomb killed 18 Peshmerga and wounded 45 along with 4 AOB Green Berets and a BBC camera crew accompanying the Peshmerga (one of them was journalist John Simpson), half of ODA 391 immediately drove to the scene and began treating casualties.
Imagine being in a desperate situation and desperately calling for air support, waiting for it then hoping the enemy to get hit but you get hit first.
That is why you always Mark friendlies with smoke or strobes...also that's why you don't trust air superiority fighters with CAS.
@FirstDagger
Ай бұрын
Sufficed to say, lessons were learned.
New operations room video???? For us???? We're blessed.
Always good from your team !
It is frustrating even for me as a westerner to watch the Iraqi Tanks not hit a single fucking round, how bad must this tech be! Meanwhile the Americans have St. Javelin and just pick one vehicle after another. The difference in technology is just unfair 😅
@everythingsalright1121
Ай бұрын
Tends to happen when you give the tanks to the most loyal soldiers, not the most capable
@jgw9990
Ай бұрын
@@everythingsalright1121It's also the case when you just prioritise having as many tanks as possible but not training or modernising them. A lot of the time, tank units don't train in their tanks because running them is expensive. Firing rounds is expensive.
@Blodhelm
Ай бұрын
Russian tanks have always been garbage, the only time they were any good was when an American designed one and the enemy had to aim manually just like them.
@josiahzabel8596
Ай бұрын
"If you're not cheating you're not trying " "Hard is good, hard with Superior tech is better."
@lightningstrike5024
Ай бұрын
its not even the tech though, the t-55s have stabilisers and they were less than 1km from the targets, its just that they had probably 0 training
Another great video. Thanks.
Roughneck Nine-One was the book written by Frank Antenori. Great read or listen and talks about this operation in great detail.
I just love your channel 💛
It's shocking how inaccurate the Iraqis were despite being in a clearly dominant position with an otherwise functional combined arms assault. Their primary failure if the animation is perfectly accurate, seem to be that they were too inaccurate, not able to effectively gain fire superiority(suppress) and turned back just when they were about to close with the defenders. It is a battle they easily could have won but did not likely due to poor training
@xahmadx6442
Ай бұрын
It could also be Morale Plus this was the regular Iraqi army It was primarily a force of conscripts Weren't as good as the republican guards
Waiting for "a javelin computer to warm up" reminds me of watching TV in the sixties. I did not expect that in the early 2000s.
@TheBetabot
Ай бұрын
Technically they didn't wait for the computers to warm up, but for the thermal optics to cool down. The sensitivity of a thermal sensor is dependent on its own temperatur and with 2003 battery tech the cooling units were kinda bad.
@madgavin7568
Ай бұрын
@@TheBetabot I'd imagine its not really a problem nowadays?
If you're listing the force strength of the combatants, I think it's valid to list the air assets as well. It wasn't just green berets and peshmerga, it was b52, f14s etc. too.
For clarification, it requires a direct hit, but the Mk. 19 can 100% kill an MT-LB or ZSU-57-2. The MT-LB has 10 mm of hull armor and 14mm of turret armor, the Mk. 19 can penetrate up to 2 inches of steel.
not a patreon supporter but worth the shot cuz i really enjoy the animations you guys create, can i ask for the battle of yultong, where 900 filipino soldiers fought off 40,000 invading chinese soldiers during the korean war.
The Kurds were so nice and ungodly fierce! Can you imagine fighting for your life throughout your whole history?
@raidermaxx2324
17 күн бұрын
only to be betrayed by America thanks to Donald Trump
yall never fail. i like the videos before they even start
@JSFGuy
Ай бұрын
BS, you have no knowledge of that. Tomorrow is dinner was great wasn't it?
@hop1130
Ай бұрын
@@JSFGuyStop saying the same shit to people, you can un-like a video good luck un-eating your goddamn meal
@JSFGuy
Ай бұрын
@@hop1130 How does that cape fit with your white knight approach? M y o b
@JSFGuy
Ай бұрын
@@hop1130 speaking of, good luck with your no content No subscribers channel...
@bwill0614
14 күн бұрын
@@hop1130 thanks
Amazingly done video, I really enjoyed it. It would be really cool if you could do operation Just cause
You should do a video on the Battle of Khasham!
To everybody who tells me “invading Iraq was a mistake, nothing good came out of it”, I always reply in the same way: “go tell it to the Kurds of Iraq, who now live in what’s basically the first independent state they have had since basically forever”. Nowadays Iraqi Kurdistan is independent in basically everything but name. Kurds there have been able to freely study and safeguard their languages (especially kurmanji and sorani), learn their history, cherish their culture and develop their economy without being treated like third class citizens. Kurds have been living like crap for centuries, pushed between Turkey, Persia and the Arab World, who despite their differences always seemed to come to an agreement whenever it was time to not let Kurds benefit from the Peoples’ Right of Self-Determination, yet thanks to the invasion of Iraq, now they have come the closest to realize the one dream that lives in the heart of every Kurd.
@xahmadx6442
Ай бұрын
And tell them to go tell it to the Shias in Iraq Both groups were oppressed by the regime and were relieved when it was gone
@raidermaxx2324
17 күн бұрын
too bad America betrayed them thanks to Trump.
Oh man I heard this story from a guy who was there on the podcast and he said it was horrific the fratricide. Hair when he called in the tomcats for bombing position he yelled that it’s the dismounted infantry and the tanks and the pilots mistook the Kurds who had all dismounted behind the Americans as the tanks and obliterated them. They guy didn’t know they dismounted behind the ridge and the tomcats were basically fired from the war. He said if one of those pilots ever hears the podcast he doesn’t blame them and he hopes they were well. He said the Iraqis were so stunned by the explosion on the American side all the tanks stopped in their tracks like… wtf happened to our enemies!
I believe the press hill friendly fire incident was actually beamed live on air at the time it happened, it was a shocking thing to watch.
Read the book written by the SF CO. It's a very interesting read especially when other SF tried taking their Humvees before. And when Iraqi armor starts getting involved. Their first IRL experience with the Javelin. It was a shocker for both sides
An absolutely amazing production of an unbelievable operation. No tanks, no javelins, no air support for at least 30 minutes. Green Berets & Peshmerga: "We got this. "
please may some one answer. at 15:38 roughly, the figther jets are 30 min away, where are they? are they on the airfield ready for take off or are they orbiting somewhere far in friendly airspace?
There's a battle raging all around him and the bus driver is out there re-enacting _The Fast and the Furious._
I want to know more about how a Javelin manages to chase a truck for over two miles.
@raidermaxx2324
17 күн бұрын
isnt it like a TOW missile ?
Those were the early days of F14 ground attack. The rest of the battle shows how competent leadership by SF can create confident and effective native forces. The Peshmerga were already pretty committed. Add the heavy weapon support and the Forward Air Controllers command of air assets...this is where SF makes their money.
Your animation style would be a FUN game. like imagine hoi4 or something like that plus this.
Great video, could you tell me which program you use to make the animations?
At the 20:10 mark he states 4 Green Berets were killed. NO US forces were killed in the battle. Trust me, I was there
@SirenHead00
Ай бұрын
yall had plot armor
I wonder if this Major Howard was also ordered to "Hold until relieved, hold until relieved."
You should really animate the Battle of An Loc in 1972, they had a lot of moments where Soviet battle tanks are decimated by anti tank fire in alleys of a Vietnam city
Great video!
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The mismatch between the opposing ground forces makes the allied effort look spectacularly heroic, but without complete allied air superiority (and the enemy fielding weaponry that was a couple of generations behind) it would probably have been a very different story.
the part that made me winced a little is the iraqi tankers were fairly well coordinated and had compentent use of smoke and defilade, yet they failed to accomplish anything. o7 random iraqi tank man, winning was never on your side.
@xahmadx6442
Ай бұрын
it could be that they are vets of the Iran Iraq war
for those interested, the Book "Roughneck 91" covers the battle and ODA 555's deployment as a whole and is an excellent read.
This just goes to show that tanks are not all powerful against infantry but require infantry combined arms to be effective
@user-cl5wn9fz7f
Ай бұрын
There are infantry mortars and apcs supporting
Please do the battle of Falluja (both first and second) in this series.
Can I ask in what kind of rythm or schedule these episodes release?
I remember the BBC’s John Simpson’s live coverage of the Press Hill friendly fire incident, it was horrific, blood spattered onto the camera lens as they filmed.
@TheOperationsRoom Could you please publish the sources of information used to create this video? I am very interested in military technology and its effectiveness on the battlefield. I have to admit that the part of the story where the T-55s are unable to hit even one HUMVEE from 900 meters seems suspicious.
@gr6373
Ай бұрын
It does sound suspicious. Also, the Coalition watching the surrendering Iraqis be gunned down without engaging, then knocking out the vehicles with aircraft, before taking out the tanks?
@seltin1988
Ай бұрын
it might be propaganda, you cant trust much on the internett
@10aerkhembileg84
Ай бұрын
@@seltin1988 with how America treats whistleblowers, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the information was made up
@jimmieadams797
Ай бұрын
Read the book Roughneck 91. This short video generalizes the battle and left a lot out. There was a sand storm that day, low ceiling and the hill we were on had multiple military crests so the tanks couldn’t ever ID our locations, while they were out in the open.
@10aerkhembileg84
Ай бұрын
@@jimmieadams797 man sandstorms seem to be the achilles heel for Iraq thought it would be the other way around for the dudes who live there
An insane demonstration of air power in this battle.
I think it's time enough for an hbo mini series on most these modern conflicts
@Mirokuofnite
26 күн бұрын
Generation Kill is a thing
Reliable bus driver
Will there be an Intel report on the blue on blue incident?
Thank you.
Make videos on Operations Transom, Operation Cockpit and Operation Livery ww2. Also cover the British carrier fleet that played helped the Usa in Okinawa campaign
The bus driver was like, "nah we're outta here" and pulled an insane turn
@TheOperationsRoom you should do operation Bolo from Vietnam and Col. Robbin Oldes
I can’t imagine the pain the families of the friendly fire casualties feel knowing that their loved ones died for no reason
There's a good book on this called Roughneck 9-1 - definitely worth the read.
Nice video Ps i need war footage for edit
I watch ALL of The Operations Room videos.
I just found out how he does this videos and it takes a whole lot of time in After Effects
24 JDAMs each. Holy shit.
Being in the American military, I had to study this battle initially for PMI reasons because of the friendly fire incident and how to avoid something like that from happening again. After analyzing the battle though, people need to understand that even though the Iraqi Army was already going to lose at this point in the war against such overwhelming American-Allied resources, the Iraqi commander for this battle actually displayed a skillful level of command and coordination. You could tell he must have been a veteran in their war against the Iranians before this and that he was doing the best he could against us with what limited resources their Army had left. The T-55 tanks and equipment that the Iraqi Army had were already so archaically outdated at this point, especially when up against Javelin missiles and American aircraft. So to be able to last as long as they did while timing their mortars, smokescreens, and advances in such a coordinated manner shows a very respectable level of skill. This is especially so when you know you’re currently on the losing side of a war with less resources and all you can do is fight to delay your enemy. Yes, things would have been much different if there wasn’t a friendly fire incident. However, every battlefield is all about controlled chaos and the Iraqi commander was controlling their own chaos pretty damn well until our side finally got its bombs on target while under our own chaos. I firmly believe that the American military has the best training and best resources in the world, but that one should always respect what others are capable of and never underestimate your opponents.
@raidermaxx2324
17 күн бұрын
is that why when his tank was destroyed, they seemed to kinda lose all direction?
The bus was driven by Takumi Fujiwara LOL