Lets talk Evocation Festival with Chaldea Gurus! Welfares, The future of FGO and more!

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I sat down with Chaldea Gurus to talk about the Evocation System! We cover a variety of topics, including the welfares, the pacing of the system, the future of FGO and more!
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  • @Khadroth
    @Khadroth Жыл бұрын

    Always a blast getting to talk to my man Musaki! We hit all the current news as well as a variety of other subjects. How do you guys feel about the economy of the new welfare system now that we've seen the amounts? Which welfare do you want next? How do you think they'll handle the pacing of ordeal call? Hopefully you guys enjoyed this discussion. Let me know if you'd like to see more like this! And as always don't forget to subscribe to both myself and Chaldea Gurus!

  • @cashbag
    @cashbag Жыл бұрын

    This is a step in the right direction. There is no reason for Welfares to be more limited than SSRs when they are supposed to help new and F2P players,

  • @pipboy4572
    @pipboy4572 Жыл бұрын

    I was there!! It was a great Colab and a very intellectual conversation about FGO, hopefully more stuff like this into the future

  • @Khadroth

    @Khadroth

    Жыл бұрын

    It always fun to sit down and talk with people who are passionate about the game!

  • @Tazura92
    @Tazura92 Жыл бұрын

    The reason Shuten was chosen IMO is that there are so few ST casters and the only free one is Medea. There are only 8 in total and the regular gacha there has only 2. One 5* and one 4*.

  • @PurpleLugia
    @PurpleLugia Жыл бұрын

    3:50 My belief is that they released Caster Shuten now because after the Halloween Trilogy event, Shuten is the last of the old Halloween welfares that needed to become available for newer players. I've got a theory that in some future waves they'll release welfares that came from the same series of events (Summer, Guda, Christmas, etc), and since the Halloween Trilogy has already been a thing, that left Shuten as an odd-man out holiday welfare; might as well release her now to take her out of the equation for later. Honestly, there's also how ST Buster Casters are rare and most are hard to get; even if she doesn't have an upgrade right now, she still has value for newer players as a free NP5 of that.

  • @tranhuynh9909
    @tranhuynh9909 Жыл бұрын

    27:38 So... you meant something like the class banner becoming story banner? Instead of a meme campaign, just make it into a daily sorta mechanism that people can take advantage of? As someone who still have Caster Cú and Bedivere stuck at NP1, that sounds tempting.

  • @rotciv557
    @rotciv557 Жыл бұрын

    I think a set of welfares released every 2-3 months is a pretty good metric at which to release them, not too fast that players will be done getting every old welfare too quick but certainly not as frustratingly slow as it is to get things like bond coins or fou paws. They definitely need to start giving them some manner of buff too though, for this batch it might not be an absolutely pressing matter (even though Kintoki could really use some hard survival and both Shuten and Quetz would appreciate either an np buff or a battery) but for some others like Archer Nobu, Chacha or Summer Scathach they will end up hilariously bad compared to most modern Servants or even some later welfares if they don't give them SOMETHING that juices them up. An easy fix I could see happening in regards to old event stories is to just...make it so that anyone who reaches a certain point in the story automatically has the records of past events added to their story replay menu. For example, Demon Tower nowadays is automatically unlocked and playable for anyone who beats London because it canonically happens after London, well then have it so that upon beating, say, America, you can look up in your story/event replay the plot of events like Rashomon and Onigashima. Even if you dont rerun the whole event anyone who missed it will be able to see what happens in the plot of the event and get to see the first introduction of characters that canonically debut in them first, like Ibaraki and Shuten in Rashomon or Raikou and Kotaro in Onigashima. Devs don't need to spend time making reruns but the players aren't screwed out of important plot points or character interactions that were established in old events. Allowing newbies access to event replays makes it less awkward when Servants that get intro'd or have important character arcs in old events appear in main story chapters, like Jalter inexplicably reappearing in the story as an ally in Shinjuku when her last story appearance was as a bitter enemy in Orleans (since her whole character arc was spread across Jeanne's Interludes, Christmas 1 and 7 Counterfeits) or how the Master has this pre-established bond with Kotaro, Shuten and Raikou that gets referenced in Shimosa and Heian-Kyo. This is a simple solution that benefits both devs and players.

  • @tommynguyen2000
    @tommynguyen2000 Жыл бұрын

    There are changes I hope to see for fgo, but cant know all the potential negatives if positiives outweigh: 1. Rework of USOs - Only leviathans or lucky/unlucky whales can save up for this for last 8 years. Make it more accessible, but keep it still restricted since we have pity. My favorite alternative would be to add USOs to 5 star dupes starting at np1 while removing the limited 5 star on rateup from USO shop. At worstcase, lower the cost of USOs from 10 to 3-5. 2. Return back more reruns - JP version having less or no reruns causing domino effect of more stress to pump out new content and fill deadtime. Reruns can be ignored by people who dont like it, otherwise it provides players with story, materials (welfares, CEs, lores), and alternative grind. I be daring to say to have even more reruns than before where reruns overlap near the end/start of another during times of content drought/no new story. Easiest to rerun monthly outside holiday ones be grailfront. 3. Having pity be more generous - Personally i dont chase 5 star dupes, but for whales or spendors questioning if they want to go further, having pity still count past 1st copy would be nice. Atm its around $400 to spend to get to pity if u didnt save any sq beforehand, so if somebody wants to spend more, make it a safer net if they going for np2-5. As for pity number, lowering pity itself from 900sq worth to 420-510sq worth would be nice. Keep in mind a daily player can earn 1000+sq per year which at worstcase only accounts for 1 new 5 star, so cutting pity in half can aid ftps to guarantee 1 more 5 star per year in the worstcase.

  • @solivoid
    @solivoid Жыл бұрын

    Definitely an enlightening discussion, I’m looking forward to the new features of FGO

  • @RodsRetroplays
    @RodsRetroplays Жыл бұрын

    I like how, for those that already own most if not all welfares in the game, you can get all coins of roughly three welfares each year. This will help me when Shiki, Sieg and Nobu become a part of this system

  • @dstreetz91
    @dstreetz91 Жыл бұрын

    Servant I want the most for love: Irisviel. Servant for gameplay would be Gray since she's the best AoE assassin for buster looping. Though on JP the only welfares I have are those from summer 7 onwards, so there are a lot.

  • @GXrst64tlc
    @GXrst64tlc Жыл бұрын

    Great Collab wit both Khadroth and Musaki. For servant coins: how about you get 5 coins of each respective servant at the end of each battle they were in. If said servants have higher bond lv. 6 and higher they get more per battle, this will make having high bond levels more important, but this is just one idea I have to fix the coin issue.

  • @whocares0503
    @whocares0503 Жыл бұрын

    A shame I missed it live. I support both channels! A great collab to be sure!

  • @josevera8209
    @josevera8209 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing collab from two of the best FGO content creators!

  • @JustAnderw
    @JustAnderw Жыл бұрын

    That's some nice art behind chat

  • @HitsujiMamoru
    @HitsujiMamoru Жыл бұрын

    I'm happy for people who got to finally enjoy the old freebies. I have a question though. You said the team has been talking to each other now. Did they decide Animation updates were not needed anymore lol? I'm going to assume (and hope very hard) it's on a break because they are working on the new gameplay ideas, and then they will resume with the animation updates.

  • @Flaris
    @Flaris Жыл бұрын

    Agreed that it’s a nice step and what will matter is what they do with it. Getting those welfares out in a timely manner will be huge/ But it’s a good start

  • @geoolympics
    @geoolympics Жыл бұрын

    Musaki sounds different in this video, new mic or different setup? Awesome collab btw, FGO content creators mixing is pretty nice.

  • @sebay4654
    @sebay4654 Жыл бұрын

    23:30 in and let me just say that if they removed CEs from the Story banner or seperated the two with a slightly higher chance of getting rare CEs on the CE banner then I would consider rolling on the story banner because getting a gold ce when rolling for a servent is just pain

  • @mr.shadow8812
    @mr.shadow8812 Жыл бұрын

    Yay I might have a chance now at jalter summer :D I wonder tho, is there something similar for CEs and CCs or not yet?

  • @Chidon0
    @Chidon0 Жыл бұрын

    year 1 fgo with no apples must of sucked

  • @zenik360
    @zenik360 Жыл бұрын

    One thing I don't see anyone mentioning is the fact a LOT of stuff we are supposed to get for this year Anniversary has already been released. So I wonder if there's a possibility of them adding this or other feature this year.

  • @Chidon0
    @Chidon0 Жыл бұрын

    lasengle give us back shiki

  • @MinhTuHa-ry4fe
    @MinhTuHa-ry4fe11 ай бұрын

    Hey guys, do we have servant coin for the 2-4 copy, because it take 360 servant coin for 3 append skills, and 300 for level 120, so it take 660 coin but the game just give us 480 coin in the shop

  • @Chidon0
    @Chidon0 Жыл бұрын

    main interlude garden of sinners and knk

  • @RyugaSemVoid
    @RyugaSemVoid Жыл бұрын

    We need access to the event story and event ce in the mana prism shop and adding bronze sliver and gold apples to the mana prism shop too.

  • @ALUCARDAN2
    @ALUCARDAN2 Жыл бұрын

    I haven't seen much problems, would have liked buffs or even interludes for the servants. I got Quetz and Shuten, so I went for Kintoki and his coins. Next I would love Shishou and Shiki.

  • @Azzaciel
    @Azzaciel Жыл бұрын

    41:00 Jokes on them, I never farm anything anyway. I just live with my new servants being scuffed and wait for events, because holy shit are the "normal" rates fucking atrocious. And this coming from some dude using FGA on an emulator. Even worse with copper apples. Why waste AP on free farm nodes when you can just save up your AP for lotteries. Obv the 3x daily runs are important, but aside from that AP is better saved up.

  • @Chidon0
    @Chidon0 Жыл бұрын

    long form content suits your channel better btw

  • @sathariel3231
    @sathariel3231 Жыл бұрын

    Btw Chaldea Guru's channel link isn't working for some reason

  • @darkakiza8673
    @darkakiza8673 Жыл бұрын

    I’m new how do I get the welfare unit

  • @darkking4332
    @darkking4332 Жыл бұрын

    Are the servers permanent or will they just be gone.

  • @JohnSamuelarcadiagt5
    @JohnSamuelarcadiagt5 Жыл бұрын

    Good discussion, but a more focused overview of the new system would be appreciated. I'm still not sure I get how it works.

  • @despairgumshoe6206
    @despairgumshoe6206 Жыл бұрын

    One thing they should look at is benefitting longer term players instead for always going for 'returning players' or new. The idea that you get ten quartz, or thirty, but people who haven't played in thirty days get new player perks is kinda dumb. Another idea is too add more costumes, especially skimpy ones, for male players. They could use the CE artwork from past events. A good example is make Furry Fergus from the Manga Event artwork, you could even use that one for Mata Hara(ms) Boudica, and Jack the Ripper. Every male character costume adds clothes and female one greatly remove them. I think Nero Bride was the last time they actually added clothes to a female. Just saying for fan service, there are other routes than removing clothes/swimsuits.

  • @the19soul
    @the19soul Жыл бұрын

    it'd be nice if Lasengle would stop making new servants for this year and instead approach on revamping the existing servants and updating them to a modern kits or innovate them as if they were NEW servants that they would plan on releasing. Cuz many of the existing ones specially the earlier servants are fan faved by the majority which are the selling point of the game and the Nasuverse as a whole. And the Simulator Mode system in Chaldea Gate of no cost and no reward....😁

  • @dstreetz91

    @dstreetz91

    Жыл бұрын

    Feels very unlikely they stall new servant releases because that's their main revenue stream. Just improving old servant skills and/or NPs shouldn't take that long, just coding things and debating on what is balanced internally. Though if we're being honest, they're not going to give old servants some ridiculous skill that approaches Melusine levels or anything. IIRC they also have to get every skill/NP upgrade approved by someone, but IDK I don't work at lasagna.

  • @Zeke1460
    @Zeke1460 Жыл бұрын

    I’m still really concerned about the pace of content on JP. It’s REALLY fucking slow. And 3 week events are too long for me. It’s effectively a whole dead week DURING events. And addingn another dead week afterward means we have 2 dead week per month. Not every month obviously but it’s still too long between things to do. And there’s no new game modes ato do while waiting between events. Both towers and grail fronts are VERY easy to just make and AI generate every month. And don’t even get me started on story replay which is the ABSOLUTE EASIEST thing to implement. The code is all already there, they just have to let us access it all. It would take an intern a single day to do it. The UI is legit the hardest part to do and that would take less effort than making new UI for events. Seriously. Just do it already lasengle.

  • @ceobe108
    @ceobe108 Жыл бұрын

    Even with all the updates over the past week, I felt it still wasn't enough to hype players up. The new story just getting called EoR 2.0 is a telling sign. Now I've played for 5 years, and fgo has taken a backseat now for me. Games like Blue Archive. Genshin and Arknights have at least made changes to keep stuff fresh for me. Fgo just drops a new servant and that's it, we get no new game modes. That's been what's making me not enjoy the game. I hate how FGO is only good for the story, and that's it. Why does the gameplay have to suck so hard? I'd rather farm on Blue Archive or Arknights since you gotta use your brain a bit more.

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