when timber comes back we’ll see the light with nelli

@Malm-us2ut

Ай бұрын

i think that’s part of it, but part of what made martinelli so great last season is xhaka’s contribution. we might need a player like xhaka who can help martinelli thrive

@Chriss4123

Ай бұрын

@@Malm-us2utwell said, Ødegaard and Saka combine on that right wing with overlaps from Ben White. Martinelli has almost no support as Zinchenko inverts when he is played and doesn’t have a partner in midfield helping him down that lane. After Rice has been moved to a left 8 instead of a 6, that wing sees a lot more day but Martinelli needs an overlapping runner in JT or else he’ll get doubled up on as more of a touch line winger rather than a trossard which comes infield more.

@JamzNharail

Ай бұрын

​@@Malm-us2ut Bruno Guimares

@nevilleachero8054

Ай бұрын

@@Malm-us2ut Arsenal's problem is a lack of a pure finishing striker. Havertz up top does not provide a big enough goal threat. Jesus is also more of a playmaker than a finisher. I want Arteta to experiment with Trossard centrally dropping into midfield and Martinelli on the left wing. Also, the conversion of Declan Rice to a 6 changed their midfield dynamics.

@jeviasgodasmywitness6753

Ай бұрын

​@@JamzNharailfrenkie de jong

I wish all football youtube was as sensible & balanced as this was

@Stunt101Bitch

Ай бұрын

In KZread if your teams loses a game there’s no point in tuning in because everyone acts like it’s the end of the world nothing the team or the manager did all season counts

@Raison_d-etre

Ай бұрын

You mean videos that agree with you.

@datsj2152

Ай бұрын

I wish all football opinions were as sensible as TDK

Havertz in the 8 did not help Martinelli this season.

@vfrazz1

Ай бұрын

It's not so much Havertz as it is the 8's role in the team. Rice/Trossard/ESR all play the role the same way. It's a system not platforming him. There's less interchange than there was last year which means Martinelli can't cut inside as freely. It's made him very one-dimensional. He either gets in behind his man or passes back to the middle.

@TorpedoTemi

Ай бұрын

​@vfrazz1 I totally agree. A big reason is there is no overlap for him. Xhaka is no longer there. Zinchenko was never the reason for his success.

@javierlandaverde4108

Ай бұрын

Stop blaming players for other players. At the end of, Martinelli should be his own doing.

@s3precision750

Ай бұрын

@@javierlandaverde4108you sound stupid. Cant even type out a normal sentence

@Dercudez

Ай бұрын

Was it Havertz's fault that Martinelli missed two sitters vs Chelsea a few days ago?

Mikel wants a wide playmaker with pace... not a pacey winger that can finish. I think the future for martinelli is to move inside and become a striker, and Arsenal should go big on bringing in a player that can play the Saka role on the left. Musiala/Leao/Khvicha would be the sweet spot.

@Kobble8

Ай бұрын

Very correct. Kvicha or Musiala makes a lot of sense. ESR could be that guy but I guess Arteta sees something missing as well as his injury record

@LilJones-mj4ys

Ай бұрын

Are you mikel?

@LilJones-mj4ys

Ай бұрын

Dont go assuming what mikel wants and what he dosent, there is no place for martinelli in the striker position at arsenal

@bna919

Ай бұрын

​@@Kobble8ESR is much better in the half space he isn't really good out wide I don't see him playing as a left winger he suits an 8 much more.

@vfrazz1

Ай бұрын

@@LilJones-mj4ys this may come as a shock... but no I am not Mikel. The fun of fandom is getting to extrapolate based on context - no need to jump down throats. Look at how Mikel favors Trossard more recently. He's more collaborative, switched on in all phases and inclined to stay in his lane rather than get his. I love martinelli but he dominated for us last year in the positions that we have now have occupied by another player. It's made him very limited and one-dimensional. Like Alex, I believe in the player, but if we have to be ruthless then there is a very clear cog in the front line that's not working. Not to say it can't, but profiles have to be different.

"Most isolated winger in Europe". That about sums up what I see of Martinelli. I therefore think he is so hard to assess, because he is so incredibly isolated for large parts of the game. What I will add, is that I like how he works really hard in defense, but so does Trossard. Worth noting that Saka often gets into those positions of the box because of White's many overlapping runs, which happens far less often on the left for Martinelli. While Martinelli can feel easier to control by the opposition, he also does not have Odegaard and White circling around him, exchanging passes and positions, so again I think it is difficult to asses. What Suarez and Salah has is that raw explosiveness, that thrives on and creates chaos. I am not seeing quite that with Martinelli either, but then again it is not truly required in Artetas system.

@LordBonesaw

Ай бұрын

You been sniffing that pritt stick again!

@TheArsenalForever

Ай бұрын

recently martinelli has let us down in defense. he lost his man against villa and bayern

Nothing is wrong. He just hit the wall. It happens to every player. Hell be fine. Hes still young. 💯💯

@firdausansarifard

Ай бұрын

im with this viewpoint

@JasonCook-sx2ex

Ай бұрын

Hes still young like 5 x EPL, UCL and treble winner Phil Foden. 6 goals this season - Nothing is wrong He'll be fine...

@musondamusonda1205

Ай бұрын

​@@JasonCook-sx2exhow many epl's would have foden won if he was at Arsenal? Exactly, right place right time.

@JasonCook-sx2ex

Ай бұрын

@@musondamusonda1205 Fodens far too good to be wasting his career at small club Arsenal which is why he's at big UCL winning club Man City How many of Artetas 27 signings have won anything under him? Exactly...🤣

@musondamusonda1205

Ай бұрын

@@JasonCook-sx2ex Even with all those trophies City are still a smaller club, even with a ucl ffs🤦🏾‍♂. Only girls who want onlyfans followers and clowns didn't know what an offside was up until 1 year ago support city😂.

9:14 Let's not forget that Saka has Benny Blanco on his side who overlaps into the number 7 position, which allows Saka to drop deeper into the box. Plus, the fact that we invert from the left, we quite often end up with the ball crossing over to the right of the pitch, leaving Martinelli isolated very wide at number 11. Tierney would have been the player that would have helped GM to drop into the box. But obviously, we don't play with two wide full backs.

@user-ne9jy9lm8p

Ай бұрын

we dont need 2 fullbacks in order for martinelli to get the ball.. we need a player like Timber who is a playmaker and who can defend. Martinelli stopped receiving the ball because he lost 2 playmakers that were operating on his side last season, Xhaka and zinchenko

@tilisho

Ай бұрын

@@user-ne9jy9lm8p I agree! I'm not suggesting we need two full backs, I'm just illustrating what's causing the deficiency of supply into Martinelli, our style is clearly not two bombin wide backs...and of course yes this season we've been unfortunate with Timber injury, he really woul have made that difference.

Patience. Martinelli will be great. Let’s not make the same mistake we did with Serge Gnabry

@juniorgunner501

Ай бұрын

Gnbary has and will always be the far superior player

@lordedrey3034

Ай бұрын

​@@juniorgunner501gnabry has never produced what Martinelli has at his age

For me it down to a few reasons. Playing against low blocks, having changing personal around him and less game time. He is undoubtedly a talent and I'm sure he will come good.

I was so sure Martinelli would score 20 this season easily, I really hope he comes back with a vengance next season

@user-vs6qe3sq7f

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂 20 goals what r u smoking

Thank you for bringing up this Martinelli issue. I have been commenting on the way Arsenal plays by intentionally isolating him The LW has bcm a haunted ground so much so that even when Trossard plays they thought he was Martinelli and they isolate him too. But the problem may be when Arteta started limiting Martinelli to 70mins of game while Saka, Ordegaard, whether injured, 50% fit plays full game and plays every game. Martinelli became the sacrificial lamb for Trossard! I love Trossard right from 2021/22 or so when he scored against Arsenal at the Emirates. In fact I was wishing he was Arsenal player bcos of his pressing and aggression. Why can't Martinelli play with Trossard? Bcos Saka will be affected! Was Martinelli suffering from a lapse in his contract? Arteta please don't kill this budding talent! God wil not forgive you! If you are tired of him please sale him to a club that can bring out the gem in him. Why are his teammates pretend to like him yet hate him on the field. Once they stop giving him ball that's a signal to Arteta to substitute him and surely that's what he does.

I am not Arsenal fan but Martinelli is my favorite player. I remember how difficult he was for Walker when Arsenal won City 1-0 , I tink this is totally Arteta fault, he should know how to use the best of his players. Come to Liverpool Martinelli, you would be happy.

Martinelli has also seemed very unmotivated He’s been pressing alot less when he plays, and he reacts to occurrences on the pitch with alot more attitude than before I think there must be a deeper disagreement going on that we don’t know of but I’d love to see him come back to form

@nassirtwaha3750

Ай бұрын

M sniffing the same thing. God knows best

@SamuelOkiria

Ай бұрын

he must be still on injury trauma

@Fisrug

Ай бұрын

Well said

@rosuzzieagnes124

Ай бұрын

He got the new contract lol and now he is sorted for life

@Dercudez

Ай бұрын

It's obvious what happened. The hype from fans and the Brazil caps he's been getting have got to his head.

Think we’ll need to make use of him on Sunday because of the gaps they leave behind their fullbacks

Martinelli needs to now get better in tighter spaces as we constantly face low blocks. Trossard movement and ability in tight spaces makes him now more suited to the teams we play against

I think that's why we signed timber. We're looking to replicate the trio on the right on the left to give the team balance and options

Martinellis lack of take ons this season is what has surprised me the most

@joshuaohuka7719

Ай бұрын

Have you seen how our wingers are being hounded this season...

@juniorgunner501

Ай бұрын

He has rubbish decision making

Trossard plays the same position FFS and still produce in exactly the same role ( Matinelli is my favourite player by the way )

A lot of it has to do with Trossard as well, Leo has been very good which has added pressure that Gabi didn’t really have last season so maybe he’s trying to force it a little but like you say he’s still very young and will no doubt get better, the future is still bright for Gabi

I love Martinelli, he is creative and hard working. Remember, how the first Ars-ManC game this season completely turned when he jumped in, and how he scored the winning goal. I think it is a question of confidence. When Havertz and Raya joined their confidence was pretty low, but look at them now! Same with Jesus and Martinelli, give them love and they will get confidence and give us goals!

I love this man and I think we should hold onto him for dear life. I see something RvP-esque in him that makes me not trust him too much, I think he's the type of cunning dude that might go to Barcelona or Man United if given the chance (especially Man United knowing how much that team is loved in his childhood country) and then play beautifully and score EVERY SINGLE TIME against us

Partey back into the team, Martinelli can rediscover himself quicker....the ability to release the ball quicker to him when not covered up helps him a lot to cause enough chaos to defenders though he has to improve on his final balls after those runs because of the final ball, is the reason Trossard remains way ahead of him

I think there is one additional reason (it's small but not insignificant) for his drop-off that you didn't menton: our right-sided players are just better than they were last season. They were amazing already but they are still better. White for example was good last season but this season he is just monumental on the ball, not only on the overlap but also in the half space. Odegaard as well, he is an absolute monster now (he wasn't as good last season i think). Because we have such brilliant players on the right it's only natural that we focus play on the right more.

I really do agree with his nitpicking, I myself wondered about those small details of Martinelli's playstyle like when he cuts inside a little later than most other wingers which forces him to go wider and into a much less threatening position.

Another fantastic video! Completely agree that the personal change hasn't helped him, neither has the style of play. However he is young and I hope intelligent enough to make the right steps to improve. I've always maintained that he'd be scoring 20+ goals under Klopp

Writing this thinking about how much Gabi has been missing his beautiful combo play with Jesus for so much of the season, but that missed chance against Chelsea was HUGE. Can’t believe he didn’t put that away, he used to be more of a killer. Any Timber talk is too soon, like we are speaking of prophecy and not reality.

one of your best vids. excellent work!

Love your analysis and perspective. Keep it coming

Martinelli would thrive in the Liverpool team. Imagine him, Salah and Nunez all running towards your goal. Things I'd love to see

Alex your analysis and wisdom is a God given gift. Keep on keeping on

Is Martinelli sufficiently intelligent to play the role that Mikel requires of him in this team? That, for me, is his biggest problem. He has the pace, the effort, the desire, and the courage to keep showing up. Even when his confidence is low, he don’t ever really quit. But I’ve never thought him to be a high IQ footballer; he’s more of a street baller with blinding pace who is more interested in open spaces than open teammates. But that’s just me, though

Absolutely love this analysis! Best Arsenal videos here

One of your most insightful videos. Great work.

@DiffKnock

Ай бұрын

I appreciate that!

Your analysis is par excellent, sir. Excellent. I just subscribed, how can i not. Its sad though that i just met you now. Should have been earlier. But i am glad i did. Martinelli...special. talent. Unlike players like Fabregas, Sanchez, Thierry who played with head raised, i do not know if that affects Martinelli a bit. He's always looking down. Exceptional player like i said.

Maybe Timber can fix the Martinelli issue next season 😓

Nothing wrong with him, arteta is bringing him back slowly to avoid getting injured again

@JasonCook-sx2ex

Ай бұрын

Lol save your piss poor excuses chump, the fact is Arteta's ruining his career just like he his so many players, mostly his own signings who he over paid for who he gave new contracts to and doesn't trust

Big man. I love the channel

The only issue is confidence. He seems to be lacking it, which results in defenders feeling safe and locking things down. If he looks dangerous, defenders make mistakes. He should have finished that goal, so it showed he's not clinical and lacking confidence in himself to even get himself there.

Well said, earned sub

BRO FINALLY DID IT

Great channel. Good content. I feel Martinelli needs to learn to play with his head up more often, found far too many times looking down at the ball.

You should make a video explaining how playing with David Raya compares to playing with Ramsdale and what actions Raya does that makes us more defensively secure that we may not necessarily see.

He needs to add a few more tools to his bag. I hope that Trossard can help Martinelli with this, as he has exactly what Gabriel is missing. He needs to take a close look at what Leandro is doing.

The point you made with the lack of switches is in no small part due to Partey's absence... The chaos that Martinelli loves is easily find in sudden breakaways... Which a distributor like Partey would have helped massively with... Also I don't think comparing him to Saka is realistic... Not just because of Sakas quality... But because of the partnerships you just mentioned... Martinelli doesn't have that much of a problem taking shots on his weaker foot... He scored almost half his goals last season with it... The system really is just closing him out right now... Also I'd also like us to consider the number of times he used to put crosses in the box that no one's even bothered to attack... That also reduces his productivity as he is less likely to take that option even when the space opens up... I honestly think that in Martinellis case... The issue is more the teacher than the student... I believe with a bit more stability and someone else willing to make the runs outside from time to time... This issue wouldn't even come up...

Im glad someone is talking about this, the fact he still runs constantly with his head down is a major concern. Hes just not good enough

@Dercudez

Ай бұрын

He's a squad player at best. He's overrated by fans because he's young, Brazilian and has a fancy name.

Alex we don't need to wait. Put him with a suitable LB and left CM and he will destroy the LW attacking metrics. Martinelli is special.

Proud of you 👏🏾

fantastic analysis

great analysis!

Great job.

The Issue is Not Looking down as he Dribbles.He should just have awareness of teammates positioning & Shapes formed with players switching places.Martinelli Henry finish is predictable,he should try to Scoring Headers & have good Aerial positioning.I remember when he came first in arsenal he used to score Headers more.Work on your assist too & try to be quick to know next move to pass & finish game early.Declan took his corner kick assist & so work on box & attack assist.Its actually a good start having many Assist than Goals a clever player should know that & improves ur game

the way arteta want to play he needs speedy winger on left side and martinelli suits perfectly he just need to improve his decision making and more creativity iq & he will be deadly

The Different Epiglottis 😢

Can you please leave the infographics on the screen little bit longer? Good content, Man

looooooooooooooooool the start

That intro was everything 😂😂

Welcome back to😂😂😂

do you post these videos as podcasts on spotify etc?

I wrote a comment about confidence and how he will regain it, but a huge factor is the lack of playing happening on the left side. Zinchenko has honestly been pretty lackluster this season, but even when he is on his game, he wants to play in the middle more than with Martinelli. Rice, Havertz, Jorginho, same with them, they want to play the middle, and this is OK! I think having different playing styles on the left compared to the right is a good thing, can be very surprizing. The problem is, nobody is really complementing or amplifying Martinelly like they do on the right. Martinelli is a really fast and creative guy, who can carry the ball. I think we only need one new player to help him. Either, it should be a left back with good pace that can keep up and combine with Martinelli, like say Davies or Grimaldo as fun examples (this would also solve the "Zin cant keep pace with Salah/Doku" situation). He could also be complemented by an Ödegård style of play with precise through balls that he can make a run for, tearing the enemy defence. Finally, Arteta can tell Jesus to keep dropping left as he likes, and maybe he and Martinelli could co-ordinate a bit more than they have done, complementing eath other with Jesus' ball retention and Martinellis pace?

I think timber will help open up the left side, but I really like the idea of signing isak this summer for another option on the left besides martinelli (and trossard ofc)

@charles9489

Ай бұрын

Arteta needs Declan there or actually play a midfielder that can actually pass instead of shoehorning havertz into that spot.

i like this content... i felt after xhaka left, martinelli was soooo effected. Zinchenko allows martinelli to blossom because of the extra man in midfield areas. Xhaka was the one covering at the back... each time we attack. And at times, added the attcking flair. since he left, martinelli had to do more defensive work.

"Do we have the the time to wait"

We've been weak at the back on the left hand side..I imagine timber being back will open our play a bit more

I think the constant changes at LB and Left 8 have hindered, also was injured. Last year week in and week out it was xhaka and zinny and their chemistry was so good.

What makes feel it’s a martinelli problem more than a system issue is when Trossard plays he isn’t left out wide he receives the ball a lot more and cut in early enough to take a shot or cross

I liked the idea of going through team and individual reasons behind his performance but I missed you analyzing the major chances he failed to convert over this season. Because I feel like his conversion rate also dropped but I don't have access to stats for that.

Arsenal shouldn't joke with Martinelli oo. They shouldn't even think of selling that guy. If they try it eeh!

I believe the main issue is transition speed! last year our counter attack was quicker with Xhaka and Partey! but this season we suffered a lot from Partey's absence and his progressive passes! I think Declan can do Xhaka's role really well and suites him the most beside Partey! but when Arteta plays Havertz in midfield and Rice as number 6 something goes wrong and we don't look as sharp as we used to be! even with Jorginho we are good but not as good as Partey playing due to physicality! I just want to see us playing Martinelli - Havertz - Saka and Odegaard - Rice and Partey behind them we will flourish!

Yes we have time to find out. He has lost his spot to trussard, he might have lost his confidence a little, but give him time, he can become a monster for us

Its just down to momentum, he'll be back!

He's got like 8 goals and 6 assists (I think, could be wrong. All comps.) and that's while being completely isolated and sharing game time with Trossard and missing a few games injured. He's not doing what he did last season and certainly not living up to his potential but he's not really been in a position to, either. I think he'll be fine. If we can find a way to keep Rice pushing up more and get a LB that can work with him; maybe bring in another midfielder in the offseason to spread the ball around on the left... He'll find his best form again. He's too determined and works too hard to stagnate for too long.

Maybe he needs a ben white type player at left back or a left 8 who comfortable on moving to wide position so martinelli can freely move inside more

it is pretty simple. we don't play at left at all, and we don't do fast transitions this season. Trossard scored more than half of his goals from the middle or from the right.

Much like doku he’s exciting with not much end product

I think we expect too much productivity from our players sometimes. Literally not every attacking player can contribute 20 G+A, and that is ok. Look at this year's Liverpool squad; I don't hear a lot of questions around their selection of forwards (bar Darwin's wayward finishing, and Salah being out of form last few matches). But Luis Diaz literally has 8G + 4A in 33 appearances so he has essentially the same productivity as Martinelli. Not everyone can increase their productivity every year especially as the focus in attack and how we attack changes, then naturally goal scoring patterns will also change.

I think now is the time for Martinelli to train as a striker. He could be the bridge between Jesus and Havertz. Then we can get a young left winger who can get more involved in the play someone similar to Trossard

Alex enters God mode: FIELD TILT 😂😂😂

Martinelli & Saka need some strong competition in order to up their game as for the second season in a row they fade towards the end. Arsenal clearly need to bring in either Eze or Olise from Palace.

4:10 that voice crack was crazy 🤣🔥

Do you think Arsenal XI next year could look like this playstyle & player wise Martinelli (Wide playmaker w/ high defensive work rates Havertz (links up and gets in behind) Saka (Saka) New player/Rice (as the B2B left 8, intercept god) New player/Partey/Rice (Supports the defence & calm on the ball) Odegaard (deep playmaking captain) Aura Defence + Goalkeeper Timber - Gabriel - Saliba - White Raya Havertz should always stay at CF, maybe left 8 against low blocks teams even then I want him up front Rice against big clubs should be the 8, and 6 against counter team & low block sides

Our wingers were the stand-out performers last season - and with Arteta's new structure they have both suffered, Martinelli and Saka. Again it is Arteta's overthinking and tinkering. Odegaard smothering Saka on the left, and Havertz making Martinelli redundant, with no interplay and cohesion. Sure Arteta is a great tactician, but he's letting our best and most 'dangerous' talents down.

I think I’d be genuinely upset if we sold Gabi, as said in the video the guy is only 22. He seems like he loves playing for Arsenal, he’s happy to work hard out of possession, and he’s got bags of talent, that’s exactly the sort of player I want in the squad

Alex, you give the game another dimension with these fantastic analyses! Q: If I send you the data can you tell me whether this lady is right for marriage?😊.Tops!

do you think he would still (long term) develop better as a striker than a winger? or is it too hard to hypothesise at this point?

He plays for arsenal and the competition is high. He’ll win his place back. Congratulations edu for making the squad so competitive and basement bargain hunting skills for trossard.

Yeah i’ve been saying, its no coincidence his influence on the team has dropped off directly after selling Xhaka and swapping Kiwior for CB’s more often. But his individual brilliance kinda hasn’t: winner against City & Liverpool I reckon he’ll pop right back up if we buy the targets we’re crying for - on the left.

He'll come good against Spurs. I believe in his ability to counter Spurs high line. He'll have a field day with that Udogie-less defense. #coyg.

I have some many favourite Arsenal games this season. But the first half against Newcastle that we won 4-1. Please Arsenal fans share your favourite Arsenal game this season

What do people think about ESR being trained as a CF? He has played as rotation for Martinelli and scored a few from the left. He knows the number 10 role and could drop into a box CM (Rice, Thomas, ESR, MO8). Can score, provides good linkup, not short, can swap roles with others for short periods as he knows those roles already.... This isn't to suggest we don't need to sign a CF. Curiosity. (^.^)

COYGGGG

Its almost feels like he has been told to hold the touchline coz he seems to run back quite a lot when he plays to defend. Love him though ❤😜

He’s still a special player, he’s improved season after season since he’s joined, of course with the exception of this season. He just doesn’t have the consistent help on the left after Xhaka’s departure. I’m sure next season will be when the team is finally at a complete balance all around the pitch and the beginning of Arteta’s peak arsenal reign.

@JasonCook-sx2ex

Ай бұрын

So Xhakas departure is the reason why Martinellis career is going backwards?

I agree, it both the player and system issue. He doesnt have a fullback or creative player to help him. But he also doesnt do enough. How can trossard be this good with the same players but not him

@nomnsookeke4882

Ай бұрын

Because they’re different types of players. Trossard is a playmaker and ball retention specialist, who excels at press resistance and control in tight spaces. Martinelli is a sprinter who, for better or worse, has a selfish gene and is more focused on finding spaces/opportunities to shoot

Honestly he could do a rotation as a 9 with the LW like Trossard! One of the best far post finishers in the world

Martinelli is a great player. His time will come to shine more.

That intro

Can’t help worrying about what the Everton Fans were chanting after beating Liverpool. “You lost the league at Goodison Park”. Really nervous about Tottenham having a similar chant going on Sunday. We NEED to win this NLD.

@ezeqiels.4781

Ай бұрын

Same

We need Jesus in that 9 to improve martinelli but I still love him

Damn it, what's wrong with Odegaard!!? I haven't seen the Arsenal ball move this slow in midfield since Denilson!!

His body shape and first touch when in potential 1v1 situations.