‘Let down everyone’: Douglas Murray slams UK Conservative's time in government
Author Douglas Murray has slammed the UK Conservative Party following their historic loss in the United Kingdom election.
“They let down everyone, they’ve got very little to show for their time in the office, they were there for 14 years and what few things they did achieve are all now going to be wiped away by the historic Labour landslide of Keir Starmer,” Mr Murray told Sky News Australia.
“The way in which the Conservative Party seemed to think the nation had an absolute limitless appetite for Conservatives to have infighting in the party was just astonishing … we watched it happen, we couldn’t believe the lack of discipline, couldn’t believe the lack of delivery.
“It’s not that Britain swung left, it didn’t, it just voted against the Conservative party and maybe they will use their time in opposition to try and cohere and actually be conservative and actually come up with some policies that will differentiate themselves from other parties, or maybe they won’t, maybe they will just disappear into history.”
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Douglas has the level of intelligence that should be in Parliament. The country needs more people like him to shape the country
David Cameron destroyed the torries, now he's resigned, what a stich up.
Douglas Murray being so insightful as always.
@StoatLoxley
17 күн бұрын
Murray has lost all reason over Gaza.
@g8ymw
17 күн бұрын
@@StoatLoxleyCalling out Islamist genocide?
@user-qw2oh4zq1h
15 күн бұрын
@@StoatLoxley ....he paid by. Pharisees media mogul for 30 pieces of Silver.
DOUGLAS MURRAY! THE VOICE OF TRUTH! REASON! KNOWLEDGE! INTELLIGENCE.
@SueBrown-c5d
17 күн бұрын
Totally agree👍👍
@leonharrison800
16 күн бұрын
Far Right bullshit. Douglas Murray a bully boy thug. He needs calling out always. 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸😊
@shruttikhaz5486
15 күн бұрын
100% agree 👍
@user-iq7th6rd7s
11 күн бұрын
❤
British people will never forgive or forget what the Tories did
@deetee-uk
17 күн бұрын
More to the point...didn't do
@knoxyish
17 күн бұрын
will never forgive them for doing nothing about illegal and uncontrolled mass immigration .labour are going to finish us off and cause a civil war .
@FreeBritain
17 күн бұрын
🔹 *_They do exactly what they were told to do. All went to plan. UK politicians are simply following orders set by dark forces high above!_* 🔹
@peteworthy8322
17 күн бұрын
Enough did to stop Reform from winning a very large number of seats.
@dav01kar
15 күн бұрын
They will the sheeple have short memories
This man talks so much common sense
@ciaronsmith4995
14 күн бұрын
He's Pro Israel. Not Pro UK. He talks a load of nonsense.
@BryanSteeden
14 күн бұрын
@@ciaronsmith4995 I’m pro Israel too rather them than lying cheating muslims
@wtfreqken7163
14 күн бұрын
He used to. He’s gone downhill quite a bit these past 12 months. His reading as to why the Tories lost the election is very poor. It’s far more to do with scandals/ lies during the BJ period and Liz Truss’ incompetence.
@gandydancer9710
13 күн бұрын
@@wtfreqken7163 You're absurdly wrong. The Tories lost because Reform took away the voters that the Tories abandoned. And Johnson or Truss don't stand out as being more or less useless a great gaggle of of useless Tories before and after them.
@gandydancer9710
13 күн бұрын
@@ciaronsmith4995 YOU talk a load of nonsense.
2 things to remember about Starmer's win, he got 1/3 of the vote but 2/3 of the seats and 40% of the electorate couldn't even be bothered to vote, God help us!
@46FreddieMercury91
14 күн бұрын
19.8% of the country voted labour
@annecampbell9236
14 күн бұрын
In Australia you must vote or be fined!
@johnallen7807
13 күн бұрын
@@annecampbell9236 I would agree if there was a box on the ballot saying "None of the above". If that was the majority choice the election would have to be run again until a candidate got over 50%. I would prefer PR STV as happens in the EU elections. Reform got 4.1 million votes but only 5 MPs, LibDems got 3.8 million votes but 71 MPs!!!
@hitchslap8254
13 күн бұрын
I think it's wrong to talk about the non voters. They can and should be safely ignored, my contempt for people that don't vote and still have the temerity to complain knows no bound. Even in the best years in the UK general election turnout barely cracks 70%. Unpopular opinion, FPTP is better than PR. The plurality of voters get what they voted for rather than having guaranteed coalitions where no-one gets what they voted for.
@johnallen7807
13 күн бұрын
@@hitchslap8254 Democracy is about giving the greatest number of people as much as possible of what they want. FPTP worked in the 50s when there was a clear binary choice with 2 parties with radically different policies. It does not work today when there are many parties. ReformUK got 4.1 million votes but only 5 MPs, the LibDems got 3.8 million votes but 71 MPs, interestingly that is about the same number they would have got under PR STV.. You cannot argue that FPTP works today. We also have a well real threat to society with so many people not voting.
Absolutely nailed it Douglas. We've had blue Labour in power for 14 years, no trace of conservatism.
@leonharrison800
16 күн бұрын
Labour are Conservatives Mark2 . Stop the base ignorance. Sunak, Starmer and Farrage are all the enemy. 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
"Nick Clegg...Wow! What talent." The bare-faced liar who accused Nigel Farage of being a fantasist when he said that the EU planned to have it's own army. And - sure enough - not long afterwards, Angela Merkel strutted about the deck of an aircraft carrier to announce the formation of an EU army.
@peteworthy8322
15 күн бұрын
He works at a very senior level with Facebook now, controlling what we may or may not say.
We will be let down by Labour too!
@lesleylamy
17 күн бұрын
No you wont
@JulieMalone-oy1ll
17 күн бұрын
@@lesleylamy yes we will, that you can be assured of, it wouldn't be the first either, under witchblair it was a disaster,go and research stuff you will find out
@melluques8475
17 күн бұрын
Why not wait before saying will be worse? 🤷♀️ Tori has done worse than Labor before them. We are worse now that much we know🤷♀️😔🕊🙏🏻✝️
@valeriegrimshaw1365
17 күн бұрын
At local council level Labour have been eroding our culture since the 1970s...how ELSE have the ghettoes formed in our cities...and Bliar opened the floodgates and Bliar is STILL in charge..it's obvious
@Mugwump42
17 күн бұрын
Starmer is the " nodding dog" for the Islamic Fundamentalist Labour thugs in the country. This secular group of Muslims will destroy the far left Labour Party. We will have to combine opposition to defeat these Islamic goons.
Douglas Murray is one of very few decent, moral, insightful and courageous people remaining. So refreshing to hear someone telling the truth.
@Tali5899
11 күн бұрын
No actually 'moral'!!!😂 But great in other ways yes.
@falldog9
10 күн бұрын
@@Tali5899 he is a deeply moral man.
Douglas Murray always the voice of common sense and truth added with a dollop of humour !
When was the last time the "fringe right" burned a city down and battled police?
@wuper2270
17 күн бұрын
Uh literally the other day in France? 😂
@jodibraun6383
17 күн бұрын
@@wuper2270That was the left. They rioted when they lost the first round of elections and then again when they won.
@christopherdonnelly8517
17 күн бұрын
@@wuper2270 Except they didn't...go back to sleep clown.
@misty4483
17 күн бұрын
@@wuper2270it wasn’t the right doing the rioting.
@wuper2270
17 күн бұрын
@@misty4483 yeah it was, hence why they were burning e bikes and holding signs that say stolen in french 😂
That we put up with this crap for so long, indicates how much we don't want Labour.
BRITAIN! FRANCE! AUSTRALIA HAS CAPITULATED TO WOKE EXTREMISM.
@wuper2270
17 күн бұрын
Please leave then 😘
@tomjones5338
17 күн бұрын
Don't panic All woke leftists will be drafted to fight in Ukraine soon there going to have to practise there pronouns 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
@wuper2270
17 күн бұрын
@@tomjones5338and so have all Centrelink bums! Guess you're going too Tommy!
@andrewmearns2800
17 күн бұрын
Don't forget Canada and New Zealand too 🫥
@lourdesdossantos6492
17 күн бұрын
AND ALSO CANADA, WE HAVE A WAKO PRIME MINISTER, WHO TOO HAS TO GO, BE BROUGHT IN THE PAST THREE YEARS MORE THE 5 MILLION SIHKS, AND MOSLIMS , ONLY PEOPLE HE BROUGHT TO THIS COUNTRY, HE BROUGHT ANYONE REGARDLESS WHO THEY ARE AND DIDN'T CARE ABOUT THEIR PAST, WE HAVE ALLOT OF CRIME DAILY IN THIS COUNTRY NOW LIKE NEVER BEFORE...
Douglas Murray should throw his name in the hat at the next election. The UK would be so lucky to have this amazing dude as their MP. I've vote for him hand down.
@jnottinghamborn5949
17 күн бұрын
Yes he should join Reform.
@carasdawr4752
17 күн бұрын
Why would he want to lower himself to join the sh!tshow that is termed "British politics"?
@minkleymcmoo5248
17 күн бұрын
That would require accountability. That's kryptonite for reactionaries like Murray.
@rogerwoodhouse7945
15 күн бұрын
Millions of lefties wouldnt though.The masses dont vote for 'intelligence' Thats why weve got what weve got now.The lefty media told them how to vote.
Come home Douglas we need you. 🏴
Boris told some people in his cabinet that if he reduced immigration then he would have to raise taxes he had no understating of the effects of large amounts of immigration on the population.
@mikeharoon3444
17 күн бұрын
The man was a buffoon. But people are always blinded by his deliberate "buffoonery".
@Jen-mf9rm
17 күн бұрын
@@mikeharoon3444weak, woke and ineffectual.
@paulpenfold2352
15 күн бұрын
Yes because all immigrants hit the ground running and are able to pay their extortionate housing costs unassisted straight away.
Douglas speaks for me.
@SueBrown-c5d
11 күн бұрын
Agree
It was all by design - the Tories just slow-walked the dawning realisation that all UK politics is run by Davos.
@StoatLoxley
17 күн бұрын
Correctamundo. see my post
Who woulda thought an Indian banker does nothing to lower immigration levels to England.
@dpstrial
17 күн бұрын
Nor Cameron, an admirer of Blair.
@sirrathersplendid4825
17 күн бұрын
Think you’ll find that many second generation immigrants are strongly against further immigration as it undermines everything they’ve achieved. It’s the banker side that won out. Using immigration as a way to boost GDP is a typical banker trick.
@Raven44453
17 күн бұрын
And definitely not the "banker" Starmer
@air99i
17 күн бұрын
Why blame Rishi for what he inherited or is it yhat he's INDIAN and your racist view is an ignorant, arrogant approach to blame him ?
@Jen-mf9rm
17 күн бұрын
The entire UK actually
Where is that elusive"far right" there is NO "far right" in France (or the UK) - UNFORTUNATELY!
@entmeister-general415
17 күн бұрын
We are very fortunate not to have a mainstream far right party in the UK be careful what you wish for.
@gazzab3224
17 күн бұрын
True
@gozapog
17 күн бұрын
This is the question I keep asking myself where is the far right,because all the violence and burning of France comes from the Far Left!!! Figure that
@specialized500
17 күн бұрын
Get back to 1930 Germany
@debbieanne7962
17 күн бұрын
Russia
Imagine a government with farage and Douglas 🎉
I feel for anyone heading to the Olympics. I’ve unintentionally been in a riot in Paris. Not nice! In fact, terrifying. The hate is real.
@lesleylamy
17 күн бұрын
That’s why we do not want reform.
@jazura2
17 күн бұрын
@@lesleylamy?
@knoxyish
17 күн бұрын
@@lesleylamy thats why we do .
@Debbiexxx
14 күн бұрын
@@lesleylamyoh look everyone a pedo/gang rapists and murders lover 😂😂😂😂 sad sack 🖕
Protests are a national sport in France.
@carasdawr4752
17 күн бұрын
No, rioting is the national sport in France.
@Raven44453
17 күн бұрын
That's true
CANCEL THE OLYMPICS
@dpstrial
17 күн бұрын
No, let them take place, then the rest of the world can judge what the e-x-t-r-e-m-e l-e-f-t are like.
@lorna5193
17 күн бұрын
@@dpstrial True. The real face of the far left.
Love Douglas he should be our PM
My disappointment is that some Tories saved their seats. They only serve themselves and not the people.
Save Britain and France! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇫🇷🇫🇷🙏🙏
Well said douglas murray i love your up front honesty sir appriciated very much godbless 🙏 respect peace love ☮️ always 🇬🇧 ❤😊 🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧
🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 LONDON JULY 27th 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧. 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 TOMMY ROBINSON 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧. 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 Unite Our Kingdom 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧.
Difficult and rather moronic times seem to bring forward greater thinkers (albeit in smaller numbers than the great unhinged). Douglas Murray will be remembered in history for his classic insight and ability to coherently put those thoughts into words. He will continue to be read. The unhinged shall be utterly forgotten.
It’s shocking, there’s no democracy in the united kingdom. The British people need PR. That will give us all a voice when voting. 🇬🇧
@banginghats2
17 күн бұрын
I doubt if it will be a pressing concern for Labour given how much they have benefited from FPTP.
@crogeny
17 күн бұрын
I live in Ireland, which has PR, and let me tell you that such a voting system is absolutely the last thing that the British people need. Ireland's PR system has enabled small fringe groups to exercise a political influence well beyond that warranted by their tiny support base in the population. For example, the Greens are currently running at 3% in the polls but thanks to PR they are part of the current Government and they are responsible for the radical open-borders agenda that is ruining Ireland and opposed by 70% of the population.
@SS-ec2tu
17 күн бұрын
Actually, you need to drop the Parliamentary System. It has become obsolete, as the leftist scum have learned how to subvert it.
@banginghats2
17 күн бұрын
@@crogeny Heads they win, tails we lose.
@george4vIogging
17 күн бұрын
You will never see a right wing party in the UK in power. Enjoy that.
Douglas Murray shows his honor and dignity by all he does for humanity. Douglas, thanks for all you do. Brother, keep up the good fight
@billybowden311
17 күн бұрын
He gave a blowie to Kevin Spacey in 2023
@grahamhall247
17 күн бұрын
@@billybowden311 - You have shit for brains!🤣
@BlimpyBubble
16 күн бұрын
@@billybowden311 Douglas Murrays sexual orientation is not an issue. Douglas has a God GIVEN RIGHT to be who and what he wants. As your statement is a personal attack for which I have no knowledge and do not want to know. Every person has a spot that is only for God to inhabit. Casting aspersions and personal attacks on a person causes that spot that God Almighty is supposed to inhabit causes that spot to be filled with hate. PERIOD
@billybowden311
16 күн бұрын
@@BlimpyBubble I totally understand, but that fact that he has given Kevin Spacey a blowie (reported by the Daily Mail) affects his ability to talk neutrally on the topic.
@itispam
16 күн бұрын
@@billybowden311 What a total moron you are!
Douglas Murray, you should consider joining Reform as foreign secretary. We need an articulate fs with common sense. You fit the bill 100%
Fourteen years of misrule. But the Uniparty always wins.
@rockerjim8045
17 күн бұрын
it will become the triparty in the future
@ciaranmarsh255
14 күн бұрын
There’s no uniparty.
I have absolutely nothing in common with this man, but I never seem to be able to disagree with anything he says.
@jittmet7766
13 күн бұрын
:D
Not let down, betrayed!
5 years of Liebour hell to get through, then REFORM can take over.
@ciaranmarsh255
14 күн бұрын
Reform won’t win
Clegg is a traitor. Unless waste of Rations IMHO
Spot on. The Tories were only the most successful party when and because they were the most patriotic. British. Not globalist.
@banginghats2
17 күн бұрын
Turns out they've been globalists wearing Tory clothing for the last 14 years.
@mjones4083
17 күн бұрын
I think Reform is the natural successor to the Conservative party - when it actually was conservative. & I know Nigel Farage said he wants nothing to do with the Conservative but who's to say the parties won't unite in future years when the current Conservative "logo" image has detoxified somewhat , Stranger things have happened . The Conservative Reform party would have a bit of a fresh " ring" about it . Stranger things have happened in politics .
Gosh i wish Douglas would stand for Parliament. The Conservatives have spent years infighting. Rishi Sunak did not have to call an election at this time. Theresa May made the same error when she was PM and then spent the reamainder of her time failing to support voters over Brexit. Nigel Farage is the voice of sense.
@saturupiah5940
17 күн бұрын
Reform would be the best fit for him, a man of principles, conviction and Wit.
@rockerjim8045
17 күн бұрын
not everyone thinks brexit has been a success. it’s caused its share in a rise in inflation our trade with Europe is bogged down in brexit red tape. retirement plans for the elderly are in ruins . Only Northern Ireland has the best trade environment and One million of its citizens have applied for Irish Passports
Win, lose, or draw France riots. Our ancestors laughed at France with their 5 Republics but we find it hard to even smile, given what's been done to Britain.
Tories have given Labour the opportunity to finish off the UK. The damage that will be caused can never be undone and they will each be culpable. The Tories job was not difficult to keep Labour out for normal people, but they went out of their way to create a mood where people wanted them out. They will never be forgiven.
@Jay_Vijay
17 күн бұрын
Many individuals failed to cast their vote, while those who did many were influenced by the media's self-serving motives. People blindly follow and believe in them.
Absolutely spot on. Completely let us down on the promises we voted for. Total disregard for the electorate. We vote in one PM and they think they have the right to choose a different one.
🔹 *_Will Labour offer all racial, ethnic & religious groups equal application of the law! Or will certain groups be allowed to do what they like whilst they wave their religious or ideological flags? We already know the answer! God help the J e w s._* 🔹
Hear Hear Douglas
Let down is a very polite way of putting it.
All they had to do was remain conservative, stick to their manifesto pledges and listen to the voices of the citizens who were clearly telling them what they wanted, but no, they had to become less conservative and lean to the left, they ignored and failed on their own manifesto pledges, and completely ignored the citizens voices
@pauljohnston7232
17 күн бұрын
All citizens do not speak with one voice. Anyone who has held a public office for any length of time can tell you that.
@GlynRyles
17 күн бұрын
@@pauljohnston7232 very true, that's why you have to listen to what citizens say and not ignore them. That way you can determine what the majority want instead of guessing. Personally I think all the parties have some good and some bad ideas and I wish they would work together more instead of spending all their time trying to get one up on each other. I vote according to who I think is going to tackle the issues I am most concerned with. If a party makes promises as part of their manifesto, I generally expect them to keep those promises, not ignore them, otherwise, they will lose my vote in just the same ways as they lost other peoples votes.
Macron decided no one was sharing his toy, so he's destroyed it in a temper tantrum, and now hes crying , unfortunately so are the good people of France
Thankyou also debbie for bringing this news to us all godbless you respect 🙏 🇬🇧 ❤😊
Talk is cheap, and all politicians do is talk.
WHY IS THIS MAN NOT IN THE HOUSE. He knows only truth. Why doesn’t any mp or pm have him in to do talks about what us British people need and so this is what you need to do ffs simple…
No they did their job as WEF puppets.
Love Douglas Murray, he speaks complete sense and is not afraid to be controversial. Douglas is a true Brit with true British gumption 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Staggering how nieve shortsighted and plain stupid our so called politicians really are 👎
This is what gets repeated by conservative governments all over the world. Their utter ineptness is truly staggering.
One point about Nigel that Dougal's didn't mention is that if Trump becomes again president his closest ally in the House of Commons will be Nigel and that will give Nigel the opportunity to undermine the government
@Strider1122
17 күн бұрын
I was thinking that same thing. 👍
@saturupiah5940
17 күн бұрын
Excellent point. I didn’t consider that.
Why doesn't Douglas do more in uk politics in uk say with Reform?
@mimikins7748
17 күн бұрын
If only. I’d love Douglas to join Reform.
On point as always.
More common sense from Douglas
Douglas' books are great, everyone should go read them!
The rot set in when Cameron became leader in 2010.
India’s prodigal son, crashed, burns and leaves a monumental stain on British politics. What an absolute shambles that weak little man was. 👎
@nigelseymour4850
10 күн бұрын
absolutely!! it got to the stage where i would have voted for a colony of lepers rather than have a indian asian run my country and who no true brits voted for...
The people have gone Mad 😡
Douglas is modern literary and political heavy weight! Love his books. Well researched, structured and written.
@vizveebee
16 күн бұрын
Unlike some of the fools on here, who know nothing about him and just cast their infantile insults around 😡
Cameron was a continuation of Blairism and the conservative party couldn't shake it off!
Who the hell would want to go to Paris these days ... it was bad enough when I went 25yrs ago
I’m scared for what labour is going to do to the uk the Tory’s were bad enough just give it a few year and we are totally finished still baffled by who voted for labour
@paulpenfold2352
15 күн бұрын
No more than those same deranged people who voted Corbyn in 2019. There was no swing at all. It's all rather embarrassing.
It's important to remember that while the net migration was still higher than 100K (target for Cameron and May) it was far smaller until Boris came in to power. It was his new and very relaxed immigration system that allowed millions of people from the 3rd world (who saw a good opportunity when rules were relaxed) to move to the UK. Also taxes went up under Boris (they came down under Cameron and May). IMO it was Boris (and later Sunak who did nothing about very high immigration numbers and relaxed rules until it was too late) who's mostly responsible for Conservative voters abandoning the party.
@StoatLoxley
17 күн бұрын
And which 2 were most wedded to the Corporation of the City of London?
Yes we have been let down big time
The need a Pierre Poilievre from Canada!!!
Calling LePen's policies "Far Right" is hilarious. Has anyone actually read their manifesto?
Time there was a "none of the above" option on ballot papers, if the candidates are just a shower of $*!* why can't we say no we don't want any of them find better offerings, maybe that would get a decent turnout for once, more people didn't bother to vote than voted for labour in the election
Love Doulas, he says it as it is.
the last 5 conservative PMs have been rubbish each one has left office under a cloud.
The Prime Minister lost the election. This is going to cause some serious ripples in the economy.
@AngelaVest
16 күн бұрын
No kidding. The pound is probably going to take a hit, and stock prices might get even more volatile
@HayleyScott-n2b
16 күн бұрын
And with all this instability, businesses will be hesitant to make any big moves. It's going to affect everything from employment to consumer confidence.
@LynnBarnes-p6w
16 күн бұрын
That's why it's more important than ever to have a solid financial strategy. Political upheavals can really mess with your portfolio
Shocking scenes debbie frightening indeed so sad 😞
Can we not just somehow FORCE Douglas Murray to be Prime Minister?
So true
Limp Labour will be no better
With the majority they had it was harder to screw it up than get it right. Yet they managed it.
Countries need to start pulling out of the Olympics in Paris due to security concerns.
DM is a brilliant sage,,,able to articulate in a fantastic way.
I don't think any government or prime minister can solve all the problems facing the world or of their own nation. They will come and go as society & financial breakdown is irreversible.
“Nick Clegg, remember him? What a talent!” 😂😂😂😂
Immigration is awful here in the USA and we have vast amounts of land but lord knows how much more the little Island of Britain can take
France as fallen
@FreeBritain
17 күн бұрын
@@NikkNikk-qg5xs 🇬🇧 *_Always remember it is is us that are free & them hopelessly enslaved to a medieval ideology. Long live Britain._* 🇬🇧
Same guy different tie, 14 years from now people will be saying they will never vote labour ever again just as they did 14 years ago. Sheep.
How can she look like she is about to break out laughing with all this terrible stuff going on?
who are the "far-right"?
The only thing conservative about the conservatives is their name
I always voted conservative and can’t believe the damage they’ve done to the country
Well done Douglas. Are you the only honest commentator? Stick it to Cameron and the othe wets
David Cameron destroyed Libya, a successful country for his people. Then, he opened the door for Africa.
Good point about the Labour back benchers possibly being the main opposition . Exactly the type of Labour MPs who should consider crossing the floor to Reform before Labour implodes with its own infighting - which will begin (in earnest ) very soon I should imagine .
@pauljohnston7232
17 күн бұрын
Reform is where the Labour MPs he’s talking about are LEAST likely to go. Momentum is not dead. It is sleeping quietly but will wake up. What Murray means is that Starmer will be opposed from the Left in his own party and he is probably right. Give it 12 months max:
I can never believe another thing they say. Full stop.
The UK has a very large number of Moderate, tolerant people. Far Right or Far Left would fail.
Zero seats is still an ambition for the conservatives.
They give us the opposite of what we need.