What a beautifully produced and presented review. With so many T470 and T470s ThinkPads out there, these reviews are so useful even 10 years down the road. Thanks for making the effort to produce such superlative content. In December of 2021 I bought a pre-owned T470s in mint condition for $175. It's the i5 6300u configuration with 16gb, 256gb NVMe SSD and the 1080p display. I added another 16gb of RAM during a Crucial sale for $53. I know I know, overkill, but it was fun. I love these ThinkPad S models. My T430s from 2012 is still going strong with 8gb and 256gb. I'm not a gamer or do CAD or heavy video editing. My T470s is perfect for Photoshop, Lightroom, all productivity programs, Internet and content creation...and even Premiere. The previous owner somehow put Windows 11 on and it runs flawlessly. It took me over 2 hours to de-Microsoft the OS, shutting down their data collection and tracking. It's now a local machine...none of that 360 mess. For my total investment of $228 with the extra memory, this was a steal. Best of all, it's really light, and is a travel/coffee shop warrior.

@LaptopRetrospective

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words and I'm glad you were able to find a machine to meet your needs.

@nerd2544

Жыл бұрын

man you Americans and your absurdly cheap thinkpads 😡 used t470s' go for not less than $$250-300 here (par for the course for 2017-2018 laptops too 🙁)

@hoppysport2872

Жыл бұрын

@@nerd2544 So much depends on condition. A mint T470s with an i5 or i7 with 8 gb plus of RAM, 256 gb SSD is easily $250-$300.

@nerd2544

Жыл бұрын

@@hoppysport2872 cheapest I found was a bit over $200 but it had cosmetic wear and tear (scratches and chips and what not), other than that all the T470s in the market (this ugly one included) are identical specs

@hoppysport2872

Жыл бұрын

@@nerd2544 I was lucky enough to buy my i5 6300u that had 3 months left on the warranty. I had the lid, bezel, palm rest, screen, backlit keyboard and NVMe SSD replaced under warranty, so it looks new.

The main reason for 6th gen CPU's being offered on the T470/T570 is for Windows 7 compatibly for large companies.

@LaptopRetrospective

3 жыл бұрын

Makes sense. They also probably had a few extra chips lying around to get out the door.

Thank You for sharing your knowledge always great videos i know this takes a lot of hard work I usually purchase by your videos and it always works I like Lenovo and picked this one up Thank You Jim

@LaptopRetrospective

Жыл бұрын

Hey James! So glad you found the videos helpful. I'm just editing a video now that I'd love your opinion on.

Recently bought this machine's predecessor (the T460s) with the i7 and 1440p options for a good price. Easily the best laptop I've owned so far, lightweight yet solid build quality. Shame the dedicated GPU options were exclusive to North America IIRC. Aside from the lack of USB-C / Thunderbolt 3, it's almost identical to the Skylake T470s models.

@LaptopRetrospective

3 жыл бұрын

Aye, lots to like, that's for sure.

Another quality video, keep it going. I'm always happy to watch every of your new vids :) FYI: T470s, along side with T470, T570 and X1 Carbon 5th gen has a thermal limitation for CPU at 75°C, and I'm quite sure that T460(s) also had this limitation that cannot be worked around by using intel XTU or throttlestop. Despite this limitation, T470s will still be able to sustain 25W of continuous CPU power, which is enough for KabyLake-U series. In terms of hardware whitelist, every Thinkpad from x50 series has got a white list for WWAN card, but not for WiFi card, so you can still replace the original ones with AX200 for wifi6 exprience. You also mentioned that there doesnt seem to be a place for x1 to exisit, since Txxs is already thin and light anyway. I think a plausible reason for that is X1 offers other features that Txxxs cannot. For example, beside P series workstation, only X1 series offers full 40GBps, 4 lane Thunderbolt 3 ports. And for Kabylake and Kabylake-refresh platforms, X1 Carbon also has the biggest built-in battery. Other factors like premium materials and top-of-line display options also count to that. All this points me wounder, why Lenovo is trying to make Txxxs more like X1 and X1 more like....what?

@LaptopRetrospective

3 жыл бұрын

The X1 Carbon (8th) has a 51Wh battery, so cloes to the modern T14 and less than the T14s with its 57Wh. So the TB3 lanes and better display options, plus build materials might be the few remaining differences. I totally agree with your final statement; to me, this is X1 territory, so now what's left for the X1 to do?

@yingxiangyao5323

3 жыл бұрын

@@LaptopRetrospective In my opinion, Lenovo is using X1 as the new brand to compete against Dell XPS or Macbooks for general customers that does not know a lot of Thinkpad. So you see, a lot of Tech reviewers that are not really into business orientated products would often call x1 carbon just as lenovo x1 carbon as the others would emphasizes the thinkpad brand.

@LaptopRetrospective

3 жыл бұрын

You raise a valid point about branding, the X1 name is very important not just internally, but perhaps even more so externally. In a team of machines, it is indeed the one most reviewers would and do often compare against other brands. I've spent a lot of time trying to find videos and content that was comprehensive that compared the X1 Carbon to the T14, T14s and X13 and came up short. I'd love to make that series myself but my pockets aren't that deep.

I love that machine. I have a T450s which I love but I need that T470 in my life

@LaptopRetrospective

3 жыл бұрын

It's crazy slick.

@harrybaals2549

3 жыл бұрын

switching from broadwell to kaby lake seems like such a waste to me. you might as well go up one generation to coffee lake and get double the cores and threads

@LaptopRetrospective

3 жыл бұрын

A lot of the used market depends on availability and pricing.

Very, very cool machine.

@LaptopRetrospective

3 жыл бұрын

It sure is! I'm really glad I crossed paths with it.

Great video explaination, I just purchased a limited edition silver model that I wish to know if any and or just the high end models have Windows Hello built-in? Thanks

@LaptopRetrospective

2 жыл бұрын

The IR camera was an option that the purchaser could select. It was usually offered on the higher end prebuilts.

Great video, thanks. I use T470 and X270 as my basically daily home laptops and I do not really need more. They are fast, they are light (I have the large and small battery for each of them as well as the internal batteries in both of them). If I need battery life, I just plugin the large battery on the fly, or the small one if I need it light. The 470s does not give that option, but is even slimmer and lighter. I may be getting one of these to my collection though. Good thought with the X1 carbon at the end, I guess that the X1 carbons are basically the more expensive premium variants now...

@LaptopRetrospective

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah so it would seem. There has been some good discussion about the X1 in the comments here.

@clagccs

2 жыл бұрын

What would you recommend between t470,t470s and x270?

@ComputersHowtos

2 жыл бұрын

@@clagccs x270 if size and weight matters.T470 otherwise. But make sure that you get x270 with FHD IPS display. Also make sure that they actually have the internal battery, often times you see them without it.

@LaptopRetrospective

2 жыл бұрын

Good advice. ☝️

@ComputersHowtos

2 жыл бұрын

@@LaptopRetrospective I am always so mad when I see a great Lenovo thinkpad with those TN $hitty panels, shame on Lenovo for this, they shoul not install those to the Thinkpad series at all.

Hey! I just got that laptop!

@LaptopRetrospective

3 жыл бұрын

😁 It has been a real eye opener having it around.

That was my office issued laptop until I got the P1 ;^) Ran Xubuntu 18-04 like a dream

@LaptopRetrospective

3 жыл бұрын

That's quite an upgrade I imagine. ;-)

Hey would you recommend t470 or t460, i can get both of them with good deal, both of them are i5, i want to use em as my second laptop and for portability stuff, I'm a python developer who usually works over remote server

@LaptopRetrospective

3 жыл бұрын

I'd go with the T470.

A few days ago I bought the T470 model, but I was worried about the lack of support for recording the Stereo Mix Function, which is necessary for my work, which limits the possibility of digital recording to the microphone only, which forces me to work with an external USB Music Card "SWEEX" connected that supports the Stereo Mix Function. I also noticed that the keyboard keys are permanently marked on the matrix screen, so I started using a spacer between the screen and the keyboard.

@LaptopRetrospective

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like your computer had a rough previous life or was stacked way too much. These machines are usually good at avoiding keyboards damaging the screen.

@carburator52

Жыл бұрын

@@LaptopRetrospective Now, between the screen and the keyboard, I use a spacer made of Fizelin. But I still rate this laptop as very good.

@LaptopRetrospective

Жыл бұрын

I hope it works hard for you.

I truly enjoyed this, I've been watching randomly while working I'm currently refreshing some elitebook 840 of the same vintage as the T470, to remove the keyboard you go from under with two long captive screws and then there's fragile looking clips on the sides. Point to HP for trying but meh, Lenovo wins

@LaptopRetrospective

Жыл бұрын

Glad you've enjoyed the video! After looking at hundreds of laptops you start to appreciate the small things.

My question is: Can you do a comparison of the T480s, T490s, and which one can hold the best RAM and SSD. I now have a T470s and it runs rings around my X1 Carbon 4th gen.

@LaptopRetrospective

11 ай бұрын

If I ever get those machines, I'll film them. Since the s variants generally have more of a Carbon upgrade path both will be very similar with the exception of CPUs. Newer will be better.

I would only go for a X1 model if I needed a very light and portable machine, for example if you are commuting by train.

@LaptopRetrospective

3 жыл бұрын

Fair points.

@SebisRandomTech

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair, I use my T430 on the train and I don’t think it’s that bad.

Thanks!

@LaptopRetrospective

Жыл бұрын

I'm honoured by your generosity!

If something were to happen to my trusty X240, I'd definitely look into getting the T470s. Or an X1 Carbon, depending on prices and configurations. It really depends on whether we ever get to leave the house again, ha ha. I had the same thought as you in terms of the differences between the T470s and the X1G5. Ages ago, I remember seeing a Mobile Tech video where Lisa compared the slim ThinkPads of that year; the T470s was bigger than the X1, and I guess every gram and mm count when you're a road warrior. The other big distinctions between the two is that the T470s offers expandable RAM (with the X1 Carbon, that's not the case so you're stuck with whatever the laptop shipped with) and the option of getting a touchscreen for the T470s (at that point, the X1 Carbon no longer offered that option since they spun that off to the X1 Yoga). The Carbon X1G5 had much better battery life, again something that would really appeal to someone away from the office more than not. That said, given my modest CPU needs, I think I scored a real winner with my Asus ZenBook UX331FAL, which I snapped up off Craigslist for $500 Cdn. The specs say it weighs 985g, but mine only weighs 965g, making even the latest Carbon X1 feel heavy at 1.09kg! (Having said that, I've never looked at the innards of the ZenBook UX331FAL, so it could be hell to service. It's also not as comfortable to type on for long periods of time, which is why the X240 is my daily driver, whereas the UX331FAL is my "hopefully, travel will be a thing again one day before we grow old and die" laptop. ETA: Back when I was shopping for my X240, I was also looking at the much thinner and lighter X1 Carbons. I remember telling you that I almost bought a X1 Carbon (3rd gen, I think) but the seller sold it to someone else because he was put off by my question of battery life (I wasn't even negotiating his asking price, just wanting information). I was obsessively researching older X1 Carbons at the time, which is why I could tell you so quickly how the X1G5 compared to the T470s!

@LaptopRetrospective

3 жыл бұрын

Haha, yeah I'm not too worried about a few grams thankfully.

@claudiaw9246

3 жыл бұрын

@@LaptopRetrospective Yeah, it really all depends on how much time you spend carrying your laptop around. I prefer to travel with just carry-on, so each gram matters when you're limited to 7 to 8kg when travelling outside of North America. But yeah, for most people, it's a moot point. If I won the lottery, I'd run out and get the X1 Nano, ha ha.

@LaptopRetrospective

3 жыл бұрын

The Nano is cool, but it's the next round of thin and lights and that wasn't a super big draw for me the first time.

@claudiaw9246

3 жыл бұрын

@@LaptopRetrospective I just love thin and light, I can't help it. There were a lot of years where I'd upgrade my personal laptop every year, and it was so much fun seeing how much smaller and lighter I could go.

@claudiaw9246

3 жыл бұрын

@@LaptopRetrospective By the way, the original SSD failed (not unusual, since it was five years old and who knows how it was used before I got it) so I ended up having to do a fresh install of everything (the recovery USB stick didn't work so I had to download Windows 10 from Microsoft directly). Since then, Lenovo Vantage, keeps disabling the Battery Charge Threshold. I don't suppose you know what might be causing the problem? I've updated all the drivers, so I'm at a loss, because it was working fine before the SSD meltdown.

Hello bro my Lenovo T470s is locked with bios password. Would help please how to fix it?

@LaptopRetrospective

2 жыл бұрын

BIOS for this machine is stored in the EEPROM. This makes is fairly difficult to do anything about. Many people will replace the motherboard or try and desolder the chip for a fresh one. For more information, you can visit: www.ja.axxs.net/other_models.htm

T470s or hp elitebook 840 g4 with same specificatiom. I7, 16GB, 512 SDD?

@LaptopRetrospective

2 жыл бұрын

ThinkPad gets my vote. I haven't had the chance to see the 840 G4.

if i put sim card in my sim slot its not working any idea why?

@LaptopRetrospective

9 ай бұрын

The machine may have the slot but not the modem, have you confirmed you have one installed?

T470s is still [rather] on the expensive-ish side in my opinion…. used price started at $410 (for i5 variant) at least here in Indonesia. If only Kaby Lake ThinkPad got cheaper, when my cash is ready, I will seriously consider it. *still kinda rejoice as my X200t is back from repair

@LaptopRetrospective

3 жыл бұрын

Global prices can vary a fair bit. Glad to hear your X200 is well.

this laptop has 2 slots right? so, is there any difference/effect when you add the RAM in the other slot, compared to other laptop with non-soldered RAM with other slot?

@LaptopRetrospective

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not entirely sure I understand your question.

@reoencarcelado5904

Жыл бұрын

@Leonytha-Meriana: this laptop has Ram soldered onto the motherboard and only ONE Ram-module slot.

I recently purchased this laptop for my podcasting ,windows and port capabilities . My Apple Mac Book Pro has hardly any ports and would cost me $80 annually to utilize windows based programs , talk about nerve !

@LaptopRetrospective

3 жыл бұрын

I'd imagine it would do well.

Would you recommend this laptop used for students?

@LaptopRetrospective

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I would. With its dual batteries and other features it's really good for that use.

In my T470s. After Opening, the mouse keep loading for 10-15 Second . Is it a problem??

@LaptopRetrospective

8 ай бұрын

Not sure I understand your question.

@zkmoonea

3 ай бұрын

hard drive too slow. Do you have windows installed on a HDD?

@Laptop-Retrospective: I have to make a choice. A local computer-repair shop that sells refurbished computers is offering a Thinkpad X270, [that comes] with a Core i5 6300U processor, 8GB of RAM, 1920x1080-resolution screen, and 240GB SSD, for $250, Whereas a different local computer-repair shop that sells refurbished computers is offering a Thinkpad T470S for $340, and it comes with a Core i5 7300U processor, 256GB SSD, 8GB of RAM (4GB soldered, 4GB not-soldered (ie. 4GB in the RAM-module slot)), and a 1920x1080-resolution screen. What do you suggest I get? (P.S. i've already done my research, and i know that the X270 is cheaper than the T470S, & comes with regular USB-C as opposed to Thunderbolt-3, & comes with 2 USB-type-A ports instead-of 3, & has a 2.5-inch-platter hard-drive bay, & has the "PowerBridge"-system, Whereas the T470S is a bit higher than the X270, & comes with Thunderbolt-3 as opposed to regular USB-C, & comes with 3 USB-type-A ports as opposed to 2, & comes with a "M.2"-type NVME-capable SSD-slot; Yes it doesn't have the "PowerBridge"-system but i don't really care about that (no offense) ). What am i thinking about using it for? Doing Coding_&_Programming courses that a cousin of mine has suggested i do and has sent me the links of, for C++ & Python.

@LaptopRetrospective

Жыл бұрын

Interesting choices! Any T480 around? Reason I ask is you're close to an 8th generation Intel which would give you Windows 11 official support. Between the two you've listed, if you don't care about battery life or device screen size, the T470s with the newer CPU and NVMe slot would get my consideration.

@reoencarcelado5904

Жыл бұрын

@@LaptopRetrospective thanks for the information :-) . the X270 with the 1080p-resolution on a 12-incher screen, i know will have more pixel-density than the 1080p-resolution on the 14-incher screen of the T470S. that being said, i wonder why it sounds like there would be more "battery life" on the X270 than the T470S, when they both have "dual battery"; Only reason i can figure is, older (and therefore "less powerful") processor (on this particular X270). (that being said the 7th-generation Intel Core processor is more efficient, so i wonder why it wouldn't-have better battery-life)). that being said, i haven't seen any T480's thus-far at ANY of the places in my area--or--city that sell Refurbished computers. however, i'm not interested in the T480 because of the soldered-onto-the-motherboard power-port. i'm also not interested in Windows 11 (nor 10. nor 8. nor 8.1) because of the Telemetry and the Privacy-implications (including but-not-limited-to the current End-User-Licence-Agreement: "Microsoft reserves the right to scan all of your pictures, photos, videos, documents, music-files, etcetera etcetera, when we have reason to believe we have "good faith" in doing so. and only we at Microsoft can make that determination of " *when* it is "good faith" to do so". "), as well as the-fact that i don't like being *forced* to have an account of a Microsoft product (example: Hotmail. Xbox. Etc.) JUST to be able to log-in *to my OWN computer* . first thing i'm gonna do, when-&-if i get any of these computers, is boot into a LiveUSB of a Linux distro and install Linux on them. (my current "daily-driver" computer, a Asus P43E-XH31* laptop with a Intel Core i3 2330M in it, is running a "dual boot" configuration of EndeavourOS (with the KDE desktop-environment) and Windows-7-Professional-64-bit). *(what seems-to-be a 14-incher version of this kzread.info/dash/bejne/c6WYutawkcy0lZc.html ) Once-again, thanks-so-much for the help :-) . P.S. if i could i'd get BOTH 😅 (but as things are right-now, it'd be best to get the best of the two first, and THEN later-on, if the other is still available, get the other).

@LaptopRetrospective

Жыл бұрын

The X270 has PowerBridge which has an internal, fixed capacity battery and an external battery that can be up to 9 cell. The T470s at its best has two internal batteries. Since they have to fit inside, the capacity is less

@reoencarcelado5904

Жыл бұрын

@@LaptopRetrospective oh i see :-) . thanks for the explanation 👍.

@reoencarcelado5904

Жыл бұрын

@@LaptopRetrospective by the way: Is it possible to remove the internal-batteries of the T470S, or the internal battery of the X270 (or any laptop that has PowerBridge), if the internal-battery (or internal-batteries, in the case of the T470S) doesn’t hold-a-charge anymore, and/or if it (let's hope not) gets swelled-up?

Do the 6th gen machines use DDR3 or 4? The T460/s was DDR3 right? Thanks.

@LaptopRetrospective

3 жыл бұрын

Think it was still DDR3 in those. Edit: Sorry, it is DDR4.

@blvckvv999

3 жыл бұрын

The x260 got the bump up to ddr4

@LaptopRetrospective

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, 16GB max. Was thinking another generation in my head. Thanks for the comment.

@blvckvv999

3 жыл бұрын

@@LaptopRetrospective it looks like the t460s 6th gen also got the ddr4 treatment. I wonder if any others.

@LaptopRetrospective

3 жыл бұрын

All in that generation would have been the same I think.

If the laptop comes with the smart card slot not configured. Is it ever possible that I spec it out myself? I have a T540p

@LaptopRetrospective

3 жыл бұрын

Depends on the laptop. If it has the contacts for it pre installed then it's just a matter of sourcing the parts.

@mohamedelsaidelmosad11

3 жыл бұрын

@@LaptopRetrospective The next time I disassemble it, I will check for the contacts. It has only been disassembled once and God knows how a the disassembly process of this machine is daunting. I was asking about the Smart Card because I wanna use it to hook up an external GPU, do you think it is worth it?

@LaptopRetrospective

3 жыл бұрын

I think you've confused Express Card with SmartCard.

@mohamedelsaidelmosad11

3 жыл бұрын

@@LaptopRetrospective Oh I am so sorry! I have meant Express Card all along.

@LaptopRetrospective

3 жыл бұрын

Okay, so most laptops that had Express Card, come with them. On the T540p it's located just above the SD card slot on the left hand side I believe. It might have a blank installed but pressing it in should eject it.

Which is better t470 core i5 6th gen or t470s core i5 6th gen? I am a computer science student which one is best for me and which one is good for cyber security learning?

@LaptopRetrospective

Жыл бұрын

The s model is thinner and has an internal single battery. The regular one has dual batteries and is thicker. People are somewhat split but generally prefer the regular model.

@hamzaaslam6102

Жыл бұрын

What about the performance of both ? Does any one has heat issue?

@LaptopRetrospective

Жыл бұрын

CPU is the same in both so it's all down to cooling. The T470 on paper should cool better. More mass to move heat.

Do the 6th gen CPU ones have a Thunderbolt 3 port too?

@LaptopRetrospective

3 жыл бұрын

Hmmm good question. I'm not sure.

@SebisRandomTech

3 жыл бұрын

Can confirm. Mine has a 6300U and Thunderbolt.

@JackBandicootsBunker

3 жыл бұрын

Only the i7-6600U variant.

@SebisRandomTech

3 жыл бұрын

@@JackBandicootsBunker Nope, mine has an i5-6300U and it has Thunderbolt 3.

@LaptopRetrospective

3 жыл бұрын

I wonder if it was a configurable option? Wonder if the webpage is intact in Wayback?

Hi would you please recommend. I have two offers - t470 or t470s ? It's really hard to decide. t470 is with i5-7200u, used, no warranty; 8 GB RAM, 240 SSD, external battery 6-cells Li-Ion (72Wh), 460 USD; t 470s is with i5-6300u, practically new, 12 months warranty ; 12 GB RAM, 512 SSD, 545 USD. In general I would prefer t 470 with warranty, i5 -7, etc. but I can not find one. Thanks in advance!

@LaptopRetrospective

3 жыл бұрын

I'd go with the T470 since it has PowerBridge and also has the newer CPU according to your listing.

@radostinazahariewa4051

3 жыл бұрын

@@LaptopRetrospective thanks!

@LaptopRetrospective

3 жыл бұрын

No problem. Let me know how it all goes.

@radostinazahariewa4051

3 жыл бұрын

@@LaptopRetrospective hi again. I contacted the seller of t470. He sent me this video kzread.info/dash/bejne/fYiAtsx8hrHNYqw.html and told me the laptop has the same cosmetic problem. Both clips are broken. He said it is very hard to notice it. But I'm not sure is it really only a cosmetic problem. He told me also that the laptop has new SSD Kingston and everything else is perfect with the machine. I checked this guy, the seller. He has a very good reviews in some local sites. His hobby is to refurbish laptops. But, as he is a private person, there is no warranty. Can you advice me on this issue please? Thanks in advance.

@LaptopRetrospective

3 жыл бұрын

The clips are likely broken as they state and due to that won't fully close the keyboard deck and top cover. Depending on where the clip broke that means replacing the bottom cover or top deck. Not impossible but not ideal at that price point either. If you can view it before buying that's the best way to make up your mind.

Which is better? T460s, T470 or T470s and T480?

@LaptopRetrospective

6 ай бұрын

I'd go T480. Newer CPU architecture.

@HectorNoya

5 ай бұрын

@@LaptopRetrospectivewhy not the 480s instead ? Thanks

@LaptopRetrospective

5 ай бұрын

S variant doesn't have two batteries, has soldered RAM and not as many configurations if I remember right. If you want something slimmer and you're buying it used, the X1 Carbon is more of a better comparison.

I have a question : how to use bluetooth in lenovo 470s?

@LaptopRetrospective

10 ай бұрын

If you have it, through the usual Bluetooth menus in Windows. Double check Device Manager that you actually have it.

@hafsaelkehihel7

10 ай бұрын

@@LaptopRetrospective j'ai déjà fait bcp des essais ms pas de résultats Je pose la question s'il y a une technique par clavier (des buttons spécifiques)

@LaptopRetrospective

10 ай бұрын

There is no keyboard key. Have you checked Device Manager to see if you even have it?

@hafsaelkehihel7

10 ай бұрын

@@LaptopRetrospective yes i do, but it's not there

@LaptopRetrospective

10 ай бұрын

@hafsaelkehihel7 If it isn't in Device Manager, how do you know you have it?

does it have a precision touchpad

@LaptopRetrospective

2 жыл бұрын

Yes? What specific features are you looking for?

@n_kipsang

2 жыл бұрын

​@@LaptopRetrospective I am used to scrolling with two fingers and with 3 fingers when increasing/reducing volume volume i was wondering if this laptop trackpad has the same features as the elitebook 840 g3 i have at the moment

@LaptopRetrospective

2 жыл бұрын

Three fingers for volume might be something specific to that computer unless it can be configured in Windows and not a third party program.

Welcome to the modern era My ThinkPad T480s is the best ThinkPad (overall) I've ever used in my 25 years of owning more than a dozen ThinkPads

@LaptopRetrospective

3 жыл бұрын

Noted and thanks for the welcome, hopefully I'll get more chances to visit in the future.

@iamdmc

3 жыл бұрын

@@LaptopRetrospective I hope we both will! The ThinkPad X1 extreme series is the next one I'm eyeing up

@LaptopRetrospective

3 жыл бұрын

Those are neat for sure.

@amie704

3 жыл бұрын

I have a T480s also. It's one of the last ones you can upgrade stuff on and have all the ports you need.

What's the difference between the progressively thinner and lighter T-Series machines and the X1 Carbon? The X1 Carbon is a halo product marketed as the ThinkPad equivalent of 13" MacBook Pro. Like the X1 Extreme, It's a product which draws the attention of people who are outside of the core ThinkPad customer base. The Carbon with its more expensive build materials justifies a higher price than the T-Series machines which, being targeted principally at corporate IT departments, are designed to meet a lower price-point. The Carbon is less practical, more "premium". But then, I'm sure you already know this.

@LaptopRetrospective

3 жыл бұрын

It's been a very educational video for me personally. I'm used to seeing older generations where the comparisons between the two groups were seldom made, but now I feel that game changed along the way and I'm working it out for myself. I'd love to get a modern T series and X1 side by side.

@XMACHINAv2

3 жыл бұрын

@@LaptopRetrospective The 8th Gen X1 Carbon (the only one with which I have any experience) feels like a very finely-made product: It's more than that it feels "solid" which is probably the impression made by any ThinkPad model in any series; the X1C is aesthetically pleasing in a way which isn't easy to describe. The sort of subtle qualitative difference between the X1 Carbon and the thinner T series models probably can't be fully appreciated without by a side-by-side comparison; and that difference won't be enough for some people to justify paying more.

@LaptopRetrospective

3 жыл бұрын

Sight unseen I suspect not. I was trying to find content that compared them in detail but sadly I came up empty handed. I don't want to be that guy that orders both with the full intent of not keeping one.

T470s i5 7th gen is better or i7 6th gen? 8gb 256gb

@LaptopRetrospective

2 жыл бұрын

Between 6th and 7th, I'd try for 7th.

@shoaibhassanaskari511

2 жыл бұрын

N which model is better to buy... t470 or t470s?

@LaptopRetrospective

2 жыл бұрын

Depends on what you value more, battery life or portability?

@shoaibhassanaskari511

2 жыл бұрын

Both 🤭 but im confuse b/w these... Please guide how much difference in battery life in these... n is t470 not portable?

@LaptopRetrospective

2 жыл бұрын

Both are portable but the T470 has the PowerBridge dual battery setup whereas the T470s has only an internal battery.

Carbon? Less ports and more throttling :) Watching this on Dell Studio 1537 with C2D T5470 (2x 1,6GHz) and 2GB DDR2 RAM. 7th gen i7, even low power one, seems like a huge upgrade now. I had a Latitude equipped with i5-5200U for few weeks, but as laptop is not that vital in my life now, and family needed a computer for distant education for their kid, we gave it away. Even used computers prices are stupid now where I live, nobody should be forced to buy a computer, when prices are 20~30% higher than a year ago. Kinda amazing how 13 years old CPU can still do basic computing without any problems - I run Lubuntu 18.04, as newer versions don't support i386 and browsing internet gets only slightly annoying on heavily scripted websites. Even KZread have little to no problems, though watching anything in 1080p is only good if laptop is not disturbed by other things - and 720p is perfect anyway, as it has 1280x800px screen. I even installed SNES and PSX emulators for late night gaming! It weights about 3kg, though... And I need to remove screen cover and get rid of old, annoingly sticky rubber coating.

@LaptopRetrospective

3 жыл бұрын

That's awesome to hear what you've done. Linux is great for breathing new life as well.

no battery life details ?

@LaptopRetrospective

3 жыл бұрын

I mentioned it briefly in the video but don't go into detail because this example was missing one of its internal batteries.

@hoppysport2872

Жыл бұрын

With both batteries working at optimum capacity, I get 7-8 hours. With the smaller one compromised, you'll get half that.

Soldered ram kills my interest.

@LaptopRetrospective

3 жыл бұрын

Understandable. The T14 does have one expansion slot but I don't know of that matters as much for me personally. Trying to decide if I'd rather have that or the bigger battery of the T14s.

@hoppysport2872

Жыл бұрын

My T470s has one soldered memory slot and one additional memory slot. Mine came with 16gb, one soldered 8gb and one added 8gb. I removed the 8 gb and added a Crucial 16gb for a total of 24. I paid $53 for the Crucial memory on sale.