Lenovo ThinkCentre M710q Guide and Review
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The Lenovo ThinkCentre M710q Tiny is a small (around 1L) desktop PC that offers a lot of performance in a compact and lower-cost package. In this video, we look at some of the key features of the platform. We get inside the system and see what features Lenovo has to make it serviceable. We discuss some of the differences between this system from Lenovo, other Lenovo offerings, and some of those from competitors such as HP.
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I love this series, hell I love this whole channel, definitely a major gem.
ah just when i was running out of things to watch, Patrick comes in clutch.
Patrick I blame you for my new 9 Node Tiny Mini Micro Cluster. Keep the videos coming.
Great review, many thanks. Cheers from Nova Scotia
The Lenovo tiny PCs are amazing...I have the P330 hooked up to my home theater... awesome performance in a small package and mine had the USB C port in front and a Nvidia quadro video card with 4 display ports in the rear.
Another video on my favorite series
@ServeTheHomeVideo
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! So much happened in the last 2 weeks we missed a video last weekend.
I've enjoyed these peeks at the tiny/mini/micro PCs. My plan is to use older SFF systems (like the Dell Optiplex SFF systems) to create a homelab. I had not planned to go as small as these because I would like to be able to drop expansion cards in. These videos are starting to shift that a bit.
@MoraFermi
3 жыл бұрын
These are awesome as little, silent and cheap cluster nodes! Testing Kubernetes or ESXi on a stack of these is far more pleasant than on a bunch of old servers -- for the simple fact that these boot in seconds instead of minutes+ on your average entry level "brand name" server.
@randallsmith2521
3 жыл бұрын
@@MoraFermi I'm just playing around as an enthusiast, so that would be a more pleasant experience for sure! I have an old Dell Precision T7500 that I'm setting up as my home server now. I installed a Dell Perc H310 in it. That combined with the built in SAS controller made boots super long... Of course, I've flashed the H310 to IT mode now so it's not as bad.
@mikeysgametime8914
2 жыл бұрын
My Lenovo with an i5 and upgraded to 16 gb of ram , it actually rips for. Lil computer
Thank you A LOT for all these videos !
Using the M710q for about a year with an QNTM chip (aka Xeon E-2126G ES) runs totally cool and smooth. BTW there are quite a lot of BIOS mods avaliable for these Lenovo ThinkCentre machines.
@raidenlynett
Жыл бұрын
Hi , just had a query , i want to use this m710q monitor with laptop. Like i want to use extend display from laptop to monitor . How can i do that ? I used displayport to hdmi cable , but it's not getting a connection . Any help will be appreciated
@kevin_mx
Жыл бұрын
@@raidenlynett As I understand you want to use the onboard DP of the ThinkCentre as input source right? I'm afraid that's not possible, unless you use some USB capture card things...
@raidenlynett
Жыл бұрын
@@kevin_mx yes , it didn't work , i tried laptop to thinkcentre monitor ( failed) but thinkcentre to external monitor ( 2nd monitor) it worked .
@ahmedifhaam6985
Жыл бұрын
Yoo I dint know they made those with xeons..can someone share an eBay or website link, I don't actually mind if it's a newer version as well. I need it to support ECC memory.
@kevin_mx
Жыл бұрын
@@ahmedifhaam6985 I think these Engineering Sample CPUs should be avaliable on ebay/aliexpress/taobao... Be aware these are ENGINEERING SAMPLES, although they are cheap but might come with some hardware bugs and may require you to modify the BIOS to boot up. Stay away from these ES chips unless you have everything you need (e.g. BIOS mod)
I have this same product , but my company Amazon deleted the bios , do you know how to install Windows in this locked device
Hey there.. just bought this for $50 on ebay. Weird issue. When I install the video driver, the screen goes black. I disabled video drivers and video is stable. Any ideas?
Patrick is excited
I read that some Lenovo tiny m710q with i5 6th are capable of vPro as well. Am I wrong?
Can attest to everything he said here. I also have like around 15 of these HP and Lenovo systems. Haven't opened a Dell one yet tho, I'll get a Dell machine next. I would like to suggest that you include the 4th gen i7 in your graph as many of these systems still come with those and getting like 32 GB ram for ddr3 is much cheaper if you wanna run certain types of servers. Furthermore, I would like to know if there are any mini PCs like this that support ECC. Thanks man!
one thing i noticd betwee the m900 and m710c was the temparture difference..
Great video. Recently I bought this Lenovo and I got another SSD M2 for have 2 SSD but the other space doesn't have socket to connect it. What should I do?
Can anyone confirm if adding a new SATA NVMe/M.2 connector with "Amphenol MDT420M03001" will work as secondary storage?
Can you put a USB-C port in one of the expansion slots and would is work with all the expected capabilities? I see people selling USB-C ports that would fit in the slot and seem to have the correct connector to attach to the motherboard but I don’t know if the motherboard itself would support such a device, and/or if it would have limited capabilities.
Just picked up one of these today for about $400 out of a used electronics store and I am super pumped about it. Thanks for covering the important points about this system!
@ahmedifhaam6985
Жыл бұрын
Which one? I usually get them for sub 200
@zerocal76
Жыл бұрын
@@ahmedifhaam6985 a lot of ppl overpay for used PCs, especially the Micro, Tiny, SFF models. I'm about to copp an Optiplex 7040 Micro w/ an i5-6500T for $80! And it comes with some RAM... 👌
@johna3357
Жыл бұрын
@@zerocal76 looking at a 7500t model for $119
@tbone8839
Жыл бұрын
omg you spent 400?! you mean youre pumped as in pissed off right? these go for about 80 on ebay
@benjaminmogha
2 ай бұрын
He's trolling
@Patrick, can you look into the cooling solution quality/noise level of the different systems. From the video the Lenovo looks to have lower quality fan than the HP. Is there a difference in cooling solution between the elite desks and the prodesks of the same generation? Should I repaste my system or is it not worth it? ( I was that lucky guy who obtained a Prodesk 400 G4 for EU 250,-).
@cruz-tq5wu
Жыл бұрын
yes this answer is exactly what I'm looking for but idiot video owner haven't replied this question for 2 years.
Was recently looking for something like this to plug a Lenovo ThinkVision M14 portable monitor into. Turns out I need DP Alt-mode USB-C to make it work, which isn’t common unless the PC has Thunderbolt or a mobile chipset/cpu. So in this size, that’s Intel NUC or Asus PN50 with Ryzen 4000 renoir CPUs. Wondering how often businesses chose to get the Thunderbolt option when available. Of course, that doesn’t guarantee the iGPU has its DisplayPort connected to Thunderbolt....
I got a Lenovo m910q Barebones from eBay what wifi chip do I need so the vpro and all features work
How can I change my drive to m.2? It wont allow me to use a different drive :(
please use m720q tiny - it's available fro long and has also usb type-c at front...
@ServeTheHomeVideo
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Christian - We did the M720q already kzread.info/dash/bejne/faWlo9VtYae5hco.html
@ChristianRhomberg
3 жыл бұрын
@@ServeTheHomeVideo did not knew that - thx!
something unrelated to these tiny desktops, but Lenovo retired all their DC networking gear. Any idea if a refresh is coming or they are out of the network altogether? it's a shame to throw away all the BNT stuff, these switches are rock solid and they are a breeze to manage using ansible. If I remember correctly they said they will be launching a new networking portfolio and that was in 2019...
hi need bios.bin file for this machine please can you backup and provide one.
By any chance do you or anyone here know what that white switch does in the front corner that's near the fan? It's not the power button because that's on the opposite side. Thanks in advance.
Hi ServeTheHome, i'm looking hard at the M710q. for my uses I would like to be able to connect two monitors to it. sorry for maybe a newb question but do you see any roadblocks or can you advise how I would go about it?
@ServeTheHomeVideo
3 жыл бұрын
Just double-check the connections in the back to ensure you have the right ones for your monitors, but all of these TMM models are designed to support at least two monitors.
Does anyone know how to turn off the wireless in the BIOS?
Do you manage to get all that recorded in a single take?
@ServeTheHomeVideo
3 жыл бұрын
This was all a single take but it is edited to cut out pauses and such. The AMD-Xilinx + Marvell-Inphi video was actually done on two different days since the second deal got announced as we were finishing the video for the first. With the new studio, we can do multiple takes and have them match without issue. All of the product shots are of course done separately since those use different cameras/ angles and some time is spent setting them up.
Do you accept upgrade from cpu to intel i7 7500U (7th generation)?
@aarthas2263
Жыл бұрын
i3 10100T
Huh. This is one of the few m710qs that does not have a populated PCIe x8 header.
Which wireless card model and antenna are default by specifications?
@aarthas2263
Жыл бұрын
AX200 AX201
How do you recover a win 10 key if you get one wo a hdd but has the win pro logo sticker on it?
@tracylf5409
Жыл бұрын
The digital lic. is in the board, not the drive. Just drop your new drive in and it will activate online.
Im considering to buy the one with 6700T It's around $250 here Maybe the nvme will be attached to egpu and im installing win11 on sata ssd instead
So anyone who can help me? Which should i choose (use case: work from home, document editing, web surfing, file management, maybe some light photo editing, watch some video): - The M710q Tiny with i7-6700T, 16GB RAM, 256 GB SSD, Intel HD 530, Win10Pro for €265 OR -The M910q Tiny with i5-7500T, 16 GB RAM, 256GB SSD, Intel HD 630, Win10Pro for €169? Is the i5 vs i7 worth it compared to the upgrade on IntelHD 530 vs 630 and the price reduction? Or should I go for the i7 despite older generation?
@ecoprodines8886
11 ай бұрын
If i'm not wrong you could not notice the performace difference between 6th and 7th generation. But of course you will do if you pass from 4 threads to 8 threads. Go "cpubenchmark" and compare them. I will go definitely with the i7. In addition, both Lenovos you could change the Bios and accept different generations of CPUs
Help, please!. does anyone know what type of type antenna connector that is?
I love the hoodie but i don't like the back print.. is there a chance to have it without the print on the back?
@ServeTheHomeVideo
3 жыл бұрын
Ok we can work on that this weekend.
Is there any decent priced Tiny boxes with at least dual nics? I got an Esprimo 710 with an i5-3330 atm, but I wanna go smaller.
@ServeTheHomeVideo
3 жыл бұрын
There are a few of these nodes that could be configured with Intel i350-t4 cards. Otherwise USB 3 NICs are the main option
@DavidTrejo
3 жыл бұрын
Been using 2 x aqc11 based Startech 5GbE via USB 3.1 on the HP elitedesk micro without issue :)
@akurenda1985
3 жыл бұрын
@@DavidTrejo On ESXi or FreeBSD? I can't find a good solution for both to save my life.
@DavidTrejo
3 жыл бұрын
@@akurenda1985 Windows Server
@Waaaaaaaaaaaang
3 жыл бұрын
@@akurenda1985 you can use the Aquantia AQC111Us on ESXi native mode - there’s a VMWare fling driver for it (and the Asix)
Lowest buy it now Ebay price for "i5-8500 usff" I am getting is $479. That is absolutely terrible value compared to what people can get building a new system because Microsoft is allowing grey-market reselling of Windows 10 Pro license keys.
@ServeTheHomeVideo
3 жыл бұрын
i5-8500T is a different generation. The lowest price on ebay right now for a M710q/M910q with an i5-7500T, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD, WiFi, and Windows 10 Pro is $219 but it needs a $20 power adapter. It is fairly hard to beat that for $239 in this power band.
Patrick, I hope you see this... New to the channel, I just acquired an M710q , but my question concerns the M700, I have an i5 with 16gb ram, and use this as a "headless ROON server" will I get an "Improvement" with an upgrade to "32gb's" ? I have reached out to the ROON forums, nothing yet (2 weeks) generally speaking what is the "importance" of system ram on a server? Thanks
@ServeTheHomeVideo
Жыл бұрын
I have no idea on the ROON server side, but generally more RAM means more applications can be run, more VMs, and more can be cached to limit disk access. If 32GB is cheap, it is not a bad idea. Maybe check out the server and just do a free -mh or something to at least see if you are using 16GB?
HP ssd upgrade issue: h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Desktop-Boot-and-Lockup/HP-blocking-SSD-upgrades-with-newer-systems-and-BIOS/td-p/6671096
2:45 the video starts, way too much talking
i use a the same similar tiny thinkcentre for my work at home workstation. it slide into the monitor base as an all in one mode. It used to be a very slick snappy windows chrome application running machine. then i had to trade it in for a new stripped down windows image only to use a virtual remote desktop sluggish FnCKING TRASH instead of having a the speed of 3Ghz+ i5 its bottlenecked by a 2ghz virtual xeon with 8GB ram!!🤮🤮
Bro! You need to slow down if you intend to cover international auditorium.
Of note the HP has super crap HP bios cause HP. Friends don't let friends HP.
Shouty Chipmunk......
motormouth…..
Using these as htpc won’t be great, my old i3 3220 + hd7750 htpc can’t run KZread in 4K. Doubt these will be much better.
@akurenda1985
3 жыл бұрын
I can run 4k KZread on a Dual Core 4 Thread 6th gen G4560 processor. You're forgetting about quick sync good sir.
@MrV1NC3N7V3G4
3 жыл бұрын
@@akurenda1985 You said a mouthful! I run my Plex Server on one of these HP 400 G4 with i5-8500t and UHD 630 graphics...Intel QuickSync handles everything smoothly for my entire household.
Don't buy it , it's a trash dude ... I have one that's y I'm saying.... It's just garbage
@zythr9999
2 жыл бұрын
Which one?
@danyalahmad2097
2 жыл бұрын
Which model ?
@SiLeNtRyAn
2 жыл бұрын
@@zythr9999 m715q
@SiLeNtRyAn
2 жыл бұрын
@@danyalahmad2097 m715q
@aqua_whale
2 жыл бұрын
what's wrong with it?
Wow 5 months and 15 videos and you haven't even started the project. Back in July I thought this series was going to be about kubernetes, not a painfully detailed list of the worlds most banal computers.