There are a lot of fairytales written about Lenny but I believe that the bare knuckle fight he had in the USA is true. There was definitely an established connection between the New York mafia and London via the casinos and clubs in Londons west end-Wilf Pine, Joe Pyle snr, Freddie Foreman, the Nash brothers, Krays etc all in the loop. My dad-rip- knew the Gallo brothers from those days and their minder- a huge Greek fella-Nick ? from their days running about Piccadilly & Leicester square in the late 60s & early 70s, New York were not happy with them and it ended badly for Joe G. My dad was involved with the casinos there, he used to tell me about the shenanigans and about the bent horse racing jockeys who used to frequent the casinos getting the vip treatment for being ‘on the firm’-one of them got thrown out of his hotel window on Park lane after a particularly bad racing ‘tip’ ! , the papers reported it as a ‘car accident’ !!!. My dad lost a fortune on that tip and so did many others😂. I read somewhere about Tom Jones the singer sparking some mafia capo in Vegas over some beef involving the capos wife 😂, Tom got a pass on that one, he was too valuable an asset !. Sorry for going on a ramble but this video just jogged my memory and I thought it would add creedence to the fact that a bare knuckle fight involving Lenny in NYC would not have been out of the ordinary. Happy new year Ben & keep em coming, you always come up with the goods 👍🏻👊🏻🍻

@enquirer2.0

7 ай бұрын

Thankyou brother great post and insite HNY

@jamiewilson5679

7 ай бұрын

Are you saying the gallos came to London? Not heard that meyer Lanky was definitely involved in the casinos,I think via Dino Cellini? There was definitely a connection there yes

@DannyLN.1

7 ай бұрын

@@jamiewilson5679 - The Gallo’s were definitely visiting London regularly back then, they were involved in narco trafficking and laundering cash through the casinos, amongst other things. They were bringing heat on the families and stepping on toes, stepping out of line. Then they put out the failed hit on Joe Columbo in NY and their fate was sealed-both Gallo’s got it, one survived but Joe Gallo didn’t.

@G1806

7 ай бұрын

Great recollection have a Great New year pal 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🫡

@DannyLN.1

7 ай бұрын

@@G1806 -Thanks mate, HNY to you & yours 👍🏻🙏🏻

As far fetched as these stories seem......just remember that while swimming out at sea Paul Sykes once chinned a shark

@enquirer2.0

7 ай бұрын

🤣🤣

@franky-bx8t

5 ай бұрын

It wouldn't surprise me he also was a hard bstrd in es hay day

The trouble is that even if this tale is true, you can't believe anything in Lenny's book as he conveniently avoids mentioning any of the many fights he lost.

@jesseb5076

7 ай бұрын

He didn’t lose “many” at all, he lost to 3 ex pro boxers and Johnny Waldron he lost to twice said he was the toughest fight he had against Lenny. Every single “hard man” book has fiction and entertainment in it BUT to try and suggest Lenny wasn’t a very very hard man is stupid. I’ve been a boxer , kick-boxer and mma fighter and I can tell you now that there are very few men that could start unlicensed boxing and go on to fight ex professional boxers , but he did. The thousands of fights is obviously bollocks but he was in every way a tough hard man

@arranwalker3956

7 ай бұрын

Show me alll his losses on film or shut up. I've seen some but not all. No one is saying he was unbeatable, just he was a force to be reckoned with

@nordicwarrior5014

7 ай бұрын

@@arranwalker3956 How was a he a force to be reckoned with when he never beat an actual Boxer?

@guiltseeker

7 ай бұрын

"anything" ?

@arranhorron5173

7 ай бұрын

@@nordicwarrior5014 no boxer fought him on the cobbles bartley gorman said bare knuckle punches and gloved punches like comparing apples and oranges

I did read some years ago about a fighter who first met Lenny on a flight from America said his hands were all bandaged up as he'd been fighting.

Happy New Year mate, thank you for the proper decent content ,🙏

It would not Surprise me that Lenny went across the Atlantic to have a tare-up, there has always been strong criminal connections between the uk and the usa going back to Al-capone and even prior to that...New york was certainly a very tough place at that time, but lenny was hard enough to mix-it up with the best...Wishing you a happy 2024 mate, keep them coming..👍🙌

Top quality work again mate, Lenny had the minerals to go where he wanted and do what he wanted,so i think it happened......happy new year to you and your subscribers..... onwards and upwards fir your channel this year mate...... keep on smashing it

Heard about Lenny beating someone in America when i was a youngster 1990s

Fact or fiction what does it matter? No one is getting harmed by these stories. People just want to throw mud because they are just plain and simple HATERS!! Your videos are damn entertaining, interesting and engaging. Happy New Year and keep up the amazing work!!

I met Lenny , he use to run the door down at the Camden Palace . 1986 i think it was , he picked me up and gave me a gentle bear hug,, while roaring .lol.. top man :)

@user-jt5yt9ku9f

7 ай бұрын

Lenny worked the door he never ran it my friend John Madden was head doorman

@stephanriley5304

7 ай бұрын

@@user-jt5yt9ku9f Okay I don`t know John . It must of just looked like Lenny run the door to me ,as he always stood out . as I was a young boxer from Repton Boys back then.

@michaelkelly3638

3 ай бұрын

@@user-jt5yt9ku9f was John an Irish guy ? I worked with a few madden brothers in Wood Green and Cricklewood and wonder if it’s the same guy

@user-jt5yt9ku9f

3 ай бұрын

@michaelkelly3638 irish father but he never spoke irish

@michaelkelly3638

3 ай бұрын

@@user-jt5yt9ku9f thanks for the reply. Different guy I think. the one I knew was from mayo and was friends with big Jim Darragh (rip) who did the Irish circuit of doors in north London 🤙

A very interesting and great channel. Please keep these all coming very very good. Lenny was a very interesting character. The book does seem to skip over some of his losses ones we all know about but at the end of the day it’s still a really interesting and fascinating book 0:03

@enquirer2.0

5 ай бұрын

Thankyou mate

Still working my way through ya vids love you content all the best and lenny was a formidable man especially on the cobbles..god bless m8🥊👊👊👍🏻

I didn't know he had a fight with lenny Henry 😊

The fight did happen, I read about it in a small article in a UK national paper. At a guess it was around 1984.

@enquirer2.0

7 ай бұрын

Good shout mate

@davidmckay2386

7 ай бұрын

It was JP snr who told me it was used to juice book up

@myerbarry9912

7 ай бұрын

​@@davidmckay2386did he know that as fact or just asumed,

@davidmckay2386

7 ай бұрын

@myerbarry9912 he actually told me it was him who suggested to lenny about the story .thats what he said in a conversation i had years ago at a boxing show .

Another banger lad.. Happy New Year!

@enquirer2.0

7 ай бұрын

Happy new year mate

Great video today and thanks for what you do and happy new year to you and your family have the best year you can

Lenny was one of the hardest men in the uk in his prime no doubt about that and he deffo did fight in new york as he openly said so himself

Another great video mate . I suspect the story has an element of truth and some embellishments added to it like so many hardman/ villain books . For the record I remember reading about Lenny in total sport ( around 1997 before his book was released) and he mentioned this fight in the interview, he said he thought he would be an Irishman with a name like that but he was actually a black man . Whether it happened or not who knows , I ve heard it was added to the book to give it a bit more action but who knows ?

Great work Ben as usual

" of colour " lol

Wilf pines books is really interesting, you missed that he also was road manager for black sabbath

Fairytale in New York

No such thing as a black Irish man. If this guy was black, his Irish name was most likely adopted by him rather than being inherited. Also, the Americans call any Irish person with dark hair 'black Irish' so be sure you're not getting confused in that regard.

There is no doubting Lenny was a hard bastard!!....but there is very few people that can verify some of his tales!! Yes he was a brute!!! Some of his tales tho????? Exageratted??

New to the Chanel love the story's happy new year mate 🇬🇧

@ronwhite8503

Ай бұрын

Chanel No5?

surely if it were true, there'd be tons of footage, New York in the 80's everyone had a camera

Wasn’t it Frank Warren that travelled with Lenny for this fight ?

@vordman

5 ай бұрын

Probably, they were related.

Ben my problem with Lennys story’s are this,one how did he get a visa to go there with a criminal record? Two is there anyone alive who was with him and three he denies ever loosing any fight in his book ,Fields,Waldron ,Roy 1st fight,did they not happen? so what’s true and what’s fiction?Happy new year Ben.

@davidmckay2386

7 ай бұрын

He lost to paddock aswell

@hod2116

7 ай бұрын

Did he have a record then I know he was nicked in.the 90s other than borstal

@DannyLN.1

7 ай бұрын

@@hod2116 -Lenny done a couple of stretches, Scrubs and then Belmarsh I think 🤔

@hod2116

7 ай бұрын

@@DannyLN.1 yeah been a long time since I read his book couldn't get a boxing licence because of his record as I remember now

@enquirer2.0

6 ай бұрын

U dont need a visa u self certify.Unless you get stopped and they run a check and you have drug or firearm charges your ok

My family lived next door to len when they were young, and stayed friends, lenny might not be a boxer but he was near invincible in a all in (street fight) very brutal man ,but apparently could be a very sweet man

@arranhorron5173

7 ай бұрын

broke more jaws than fields and them ever did bae knuckle

Thanks for the video, Enquirer 2.0

Bet in reality bully Lenny got a right beating again. But didn't mention it to save face, Hardest man in the world in his imagination In reality just a over hyped bully who picked his fights carefully, Funny how all you c u l t. Who never met him. Swear he was a unbeatable. Fighting machine, Yet his own cousin and his own daughter (who 10000000 percent) knew Lenny better than everyone in the comments claimed he was a bully,

@TonyGiles-wg2pf

7 ай бұрын

Met him many times my father knew him well. Post under your real name keyboard warrior

Wasn't it an issue to go to America if you had a criminal record, or is that a new thing?

@jonpark5203

7 ай бұрын

it wasnt before 09/11, but after that the security and customs in the us got a-lot stricter

@shaunmufc58

7 ай бұрын

@@jonpark5203I couldn’t get a visa in the early 90s to go to watch boxing cos of criminal record.

@davidmckay2386

7 ай бұрын

@shaunmufc58 i know a few years ago were knocked back way befor 9/11

Never met an irish black man with the family name mc'cormack

Lenny grassed my mate up over a murder charge and it turned out the police killed him after he was thrown out of stringfellows nightclub lenny and my mate Rob where both working the door that night the police came arrested the guy later he died in police custody and they tried to blame the doormen

@myerbarry9912

7 ай бұрын

Lenny never worked stringfellows it was the hippodrome,😊

@GaryHynes-im5di

7 ай бұрын

Lenny was big and fast but most real criminal can be small...he was a big no mark...and he knew it.

Love your stuff enquirer 2.0 but i have to say a lot of people like to say negative stuff about Lenny niw he's dead. RIP the governor.

More fairy tales about a ‘fighter’ who never turned professional for fear of fighting men who could actually fight back..

@kevthegoat8774

26 күн бұрын

He did actually fight professionals though

I was told by someone involved it was made up to juice his book up

I'm sure if it happened thier would be footage like thier was for most of his other big fights 80's the video camera was available, sure even some stills if anything,I mean it's a big brag to fight in America ?

What evidence do you have for any of these stories involving Lenny? Sounds like a load of nonsense to me.

@enquirer2.0

5 ай бұрын

That's your opinion. There's been several books from other doormen who worked with him who confirm he did go and fight in America. I notice you've left quite a few comments saying the same thing. Why watch the videos if they irritate you

The geordie guy you talking about is probably mick terill

If you look at the top professional mma fighters around these days Lenny wouldn’t have lasted 2 mins against any of them.

@arranhorron5173

7 ай бұрын

bare knuckle fighting nutting kicking biting an all in be a dif game for a boxer

@stevemaclaine4547

6 ай бұрын

behave will you 😂

Read Lenny and Kelly's book,good reads, ppl always slag off ppl who ain't there,or past away,yet ppl add bs,beggers me,they never say a2b, n always add c,only ppl who were there no the true events👍Lenny was old school never admit he got beat,Roy Shaw,cliffy fields ect,anyways lad u mentioned is Geordie gypsy Jimmy mccrory frm Newcastle,,but keep thm updates coming em enjoyed it

No two ways about it Lenny was a 0ne in a million when it comes to fighting but i think he can tell a storey as good as he could fight .

paul ferris

about 4 nights ago....I dreamt I went for a booze with Lenny McLean back in the 70's....dead fucking weird....haven't read his book for about 15 years....

I got a B many years ago in English lit for reciting this story 🤣 wonder if Frank warren cud confirm this fight as promoter back then ? Wasn’t he involved all this

@speckles82

7 ай бұрын

Frank was promoting licensed shows then ( he finished with the unlicensed shows in the very late 70s)

without gloves and rules lenny was a very different man to the one fighting ex boxers ,he became a likeable funny man later in life ,the young lenny was not so nice perhaps as a result of his childhood

I checked this out with a few old timers and nobody verified this as well as ever hearing of this guy. And how the hell would he get into this country with a criminal background..this is such crap

@enquirer2.0

6 ай бұрын

U obviously haven't because he went over several times as I have ( allegedly ) with way more serious criminal record than Lenny had

@toddk8114

6 ай бұрын

This is nonsense. Why doesn’t anybody over here in the U.S. know about this? Only people touting this guy are talking about it. The history channel shows all 5 families and their backgrounds and tough guys and interestingly enough this was never brought up. I grew up in Brooklyn and nobody here has heard of him. Cmon already enough fabrication

He had no need to lie 👍

Lenny was 6.3ft 1.91m not 6.8

@enquirer2.0

7 ай бұрын

I know the guy he fought was 6,8

@2TiTs

7 ай бұрын

@@enquirer2.0 Okay 👍 I just googled it as I thought I heard before 6,3. Most listings including wiki 6,3

No doubt Lenny was the real deal but to go to America and fight seems a bit far fetched only because of the law and if it went pear shaped over there you where in jail.

A brutal brawl ? According to Lenny his openent only squeezed him and never even landed a single blow ! Ok

And if you believe that you believe in father christmas

roy shaw was to small to fight the 6ft 8inch guy lenny fought

people wil say this and will say that Best known tough guy doorman ,, with ease films cracked it .. lock stock alone , what a perfomance the Best selling gangster gangland book , by a country mile would i fight him 😐😐 would 9/10 who slag him out fight him 🤔 i very much doubt it hes the biggest gangland face outside of the Krays period 😉people hate through jealousy thats just facts

Didn't happen

Lenny got a rep but lllike lott people said criminal record you can not leave and go to us

You've gotta embelish some stories to sell your book ain't you 😂😂😂

Another fairy tale , be honest!!! the book? a great read but also a great LIE

IV SEEN AS BANY FIGHTS AS I CAN OF LENNY ABD AS FAR AS IM CONCERNED FORGET ABOUT HIS FIGHTS IN THE RING ? SIMPLY ON THE COBBLES HE WAS VICIOUS AND NOT NANY COULD HAVE BEAT JIM IMO !, 👊🥊🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

Don't mess with the Lenny!

Lenny was the guv'nor so I believe

Jackanory

Bs

An irish man of colour ?

@kid--presentable

7 ай бұрын

No such thing

Happy New Year and here’s to many happy and healthy ones to come,a 🔥start mate 🫡🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿I know a Scottish guy in his prime that would have been tough in any arena but it comes down to preserving your health,and if the word on the streets are he’s unstoppable,that in a man’s head and he believes it is a 60/40 or a 40/60 chance,the truth either way arrives and we still talk about Lenny so I reckon he was a gen up 60/40 man 🤜🏼👊🤛🏽🫡

jackanory