Ashton was one of my idols growing up. Was he the best winger for modern day rugby? Probably not, but his ability to get to the try line is something all wingers should aspire to emulate. Any kids wanna learn how to run a proper support line, watch highlights of Ashton. I'd love to see him as an attack coach for England one day. Just don't ask him about defence 😂😂

@Lezzyboy87

Жыл бұрын

Wonder where he learnt his skills...

@harrybrown1513

Жыл бұрын

@@Lezzyboy87 practice like anyone, and league helped as well, but coming from league was why his defense was awful so swings and roundabouts 🤣

@Mumbo_Jumbo_Kiwi.1

Жыл бұрын

A player of his quality would've been a seasoned All Black

So happy for Chris Ashton, I was there in 2010 at twickenham to watch him run the length of the pitch against Australia. Was special then, he hasn’t lost that finishing edge 👍🏻🫡

@oldershikari828

Жыл бұрын

Ah man, what try! I rewatch that on KZread regularly

Big congrats to Ashy. What an absolute legend of the sport and a cool and funny bloke, too. He always lightens it up at the Rugby Union Weekly.

Wild second yellow for Woodburn imo. Seen that sort of thing happen loads of times with nothing being given. But I’m not a ref so 🤷🏾‍♂️

@joeboonmusic4004

Жыл бұрын

I get you completely, but I think the usual argument is that if a penalty try is awarded, the player responsible has to be carded too.

@ashatron656

Жыл бұрын

You might not be a ref, but I'm confident you'd do a better job!

@samsmith1787

Жыл бұрын

Letter of law he’s jumped on a man on the floor - which is illegal, because anyone on the floor is ‘out of the game’ - but if that man is in the process of scoring, surely he’s not ‘out of the game’ and fair game for a tackle? Can’t blame the ref but the laws need more common sense for situations like that. Ridiculous decision ruined the game - just look at the final score! Ex are champions cup last 4 but binning 60 in the league? Come on

@MentasmUK

Жыл бұрын

Nor is Karl Dickson 😅

@garyambrosini1427

Жыл бұрын

Karl dickson is terrible

Pollard has found his perfect club just in time for us Springbok fans. This is the perfect team for him.

Chris Aston quadruplée magistral. Chris Ashton est un beau joueur.

Massive congratulations to chris Ashton a wonderful player really happy he was able to get the record

Congratulations Chris Ashton on a remarkable achievement! Well done & well deserved! 👏👏👏👏👏

What a legend Ashton is....under appreciated for too long

Glad to have witnessed such a great match and such a great hat-trick. Ashton will always have a special place in my heart for lighting up my visits to Welford Road over the last few years.

Loved having Ashton at Sarries and was gutted when he left. Amazing to think how long his career has lasted and how he could probably justify an extra season if he wanted one

That was like watching a computer game, unreal skill, great rugby. Pleased for Ashton!

I'm Quins all the way but always loved Ashton. What a class player and celebration.

Well done Ash, great achievement

Some beautiful tries here, especially the early ones. Fair play to Ashton too.

Chris Ashton. Wigan class.

Couple of pointers from watching this game yesterday. 1) Handre Pollard is absolutely world-class. 2) Chris Ashton is a legend. 3) Karl Dickson has never impressed me as a Rugby official. Never concise about his calls you could almost hear it from how his voice creaks. He is shocking. And I never feel this strongly about referees.

@lucacox3589

Жыл бұрын

That last Exeter try was clearly held up too 😂😂. Not that it matters at all cause the red card opened the flood gates

@freddiehoward4202

Жыл бұрын

pollard didnt play too well yesterday tbh, made some really good plays with excellent vision but also gave away quite a lot, also didnt have the best day from the boot

v happy for ashton!

"PoLlArD hAs No rUnNiNg GaMe. PoLlArD cAnNoT pAsS." Guy isn't perfect, the x-kick turnover was nasty, but he's orders of magnitude better, than what he typically gets credit for in the NH. I'm pleased to see him shutting his critics up. 2 try assists (well, 3 if we count the turnover try haha), 3 defenders beaten, one clean break that resulted in another try, 13 out of 14 tackles, kicked 11 points.

@davequiquegg

Жыл бұрын

I agree that Pollard was getting criticised unfairly. There's a lot of hype about the "batsh!t" No. 10 moments of brilliance that Barrett/Smith/Ntamack/Russell perform, but if a 10 doesn't get noticed when they win then I think that's a great mark of their performance as well. From an opposition point of view, Pollard is agonisingly consistent. The passes, the bombs, the defensive work is soul-crushingly consistent which allows everyone else around him to shine, especially for the Boks. For Leicester he has 2 equally consistent scrum half's to depend on, an incredible back 3 for flair and finishing, and a dominant pack who do the hard work. It allows Pollard to force errors in the opposition through attrition. Unfortunately, as was the case against Leinster, if the pack are dominated then every other piece in the plan is exposed and it doesn't matter who is pulling the strings then.

@JTM1809

Жыл бұрын

@@davequiquegg That was a brilliant summary.

Leicester making a huge come back to title contenders here, with pollard in the driving seat.

Would've expected the likes of Varndell, Cueto & Wade to have gotten to that historic century mark first but fair play to Ashton on his longevity and ability to run great support lines and finish very well!

Why is he retiring!! He is immense!!

Congratulations to Chris Ashton

I like it when both teams try to win.

I've been a Bath supporter for nearly 40 years, so have no love for either Exeter or Leicester but have to say that that was shaping up to be a superb game, graced by some wonderfully talented players, until it was ruined as a contest by the ludicrous decision to send off Woodburn. Karl Dickson should hang his head and go back to read the tackle law (13.4) carefully. Woodburn did not commit an offence as he did not fall "onto or over" Ashton but was clearly sliding in from the side to try and get his hand under the ball for a "held up" decision. It was pretty clear from Ashton's reaction and the way he spoke to Woodburn after the game, that he too thought the decision to be absurd.

@ILoveDawko

Жыл бұрын

I read today that the guidance given to refs on this was updated this week, in which case he was just doing his job. Seems likely that it's a measure to try and reduce dangerous impacts on players lying prone, I can kind of understand why they're doing it but feel bad for Woodburn as it's never nice getting sent off.

Jack Van Poortvlier inscrit un magnifique essai. Allée Leicester Tigers.

Ashton, un des rares anglais que j'aime bien !

Spirit of the law is not to dive onto a defenseless stationary player on the ground (because the game is played exclusively on one’s feet, see). This is not applicable here cause the speedily sliding bugger on the ground is most assuredly still playing the game, moving at speed towards the line with scoring intent. If we’re gonna play silly buggers with the letter of the law note that there’s no “diving onto” anyone. Sliding into is not diving onto. A slide is not a dive: into is not onto.

@dalenewton9697

Жыл бұрын

Applying the laws ofthe game is not playing silly buggers. Seems to me the silly buggers is what results from all the gray areas which have colonised the game now from not applying the law objectively. What you say about the sliding player still being active is correct though, but thats part of the rules as well. A player is allowed to cross the try line under his/her own momentum.

Pollard + Wiese 👏

Fair Play Tigers!!!!

Show us all the card incidents, please!

Well done Ashton 👏🏻👏🏻

Proficiat JP🎉

Highlights how suffocating leinster/irelands defence is when tigers here look so fluid here but in the aviva they looked so lost. Could be a bounce back but id say the change is too dramatic. Potentially also a off day for exeter

Sam Simmonds is really quick

Not knocking the old days but there’s some proper athletes out there now

Is there a reason why they didn't show the first yellow on the highlights? All of a sudden, a yellow appears over the "EXE"?

The decision to give Woodburn a second yellow was absurd. He was trying to dislodge the ball. There was no foul play at all.

@dalenewton9697

Жыл бұрын

YOu need to listen to what the referee said (and perhaps look quickly at the relevant laws of the game). Diving on a player who is already successfully tackled is foul play - in this case 'foul play' which prevented a try since he also dislodged the ball. Technically it was the right decision as far as I can see.

@MrHistorian123

Жыл бұрын

@@dalenewton9697 A player is not deemed to be tackled whilst he is still moving towards the try line. He has to be "held" and that means stationary. As long as he is moving towards the try line, he can still be tackled. And Woodburn did NOT dive on him. He dived short of him and slid into him.

@dalenewton9697

Жыл бұрын

@@MrHistorian123 As far as I am aware there is nothing in the laws of the game or the officiating directives which back up what you have said there. A player doesnt have to be held, excpet in the sense of contact with the player while they are 'down', which is when there is knee contact with the ground. Thus, in this case the player was already tackled. What you say about a player sliding forward still being able to be 'tackled' would apply IF he wasnt already tackled. If you could find somethign that supports your claim that 'a player moving towards the try line is not deemed to be tackled' this would also change things, but again, I don't think any such disposition exists

@MrHistorian123

Жыл бұрын

@@dalenewton9697 OK - as Nigel Owens has pointed out, how does anyone stop a player who has been tackled and fallen to the ground or dived of their own accord and who can then slide towards the try line and score under his/her own momentum? Either: the tackle is complete as soon as his knee hits the ground and he must release the ball, present it or offload it Or: he is still capable of making ground and scoring, so other players must have the right to intervene to try to stop this. Otherwise every player can dive 5m short of the line knowing that nothing can stop them getting to the line because no-one can touch them.

@dalenewton9697

Жыл бұрын

@@MrHistorian123 Owens is full of shit generally and I think basically says whatever he gets paid to say, and to seed confusion/controversy. They cant do that because diving for the line DOESN'T mean someone cant tackle you! If the player dives for the line then the nearest player can do what they should logically do (block their path/tackle them). The present incident is a case of a player already having tackled the carrier.

South Africans coming in clutch here top form for wieser pollard and ashton ( not SA but 100 tries is nuts )

Sam needs to teach his brother Joe how to tackle, that first try he missed 2 in a row, just not good enough at this level

He stopped a try being scored by pushing Ashton into touch. Isn’t that, erm, what he’s supposed to do? One of the worst decisions I’ve ever seen. I’m a Tigers fan, btw. I thought it was cracking defence.

@CP-uk3sx

Жыл бұрын

He’s diving on to a player that is already on the floor

@dougclark9921

Жыл бұрын

@@CP-uk3sx he didnt dive on him

@CP-uk3sx

Жыл бұрын

@@dougclark9921 clearly makes contact with him. Is he a tackler? No he’s already been tackled and held on ground.

@JackPilcherMay

Жыл бұрын

Onto vs into. By your logic, any winger sliding into score in the corner is untouchable because they’re off their feet. If a player is still actively playing the ball (ie sliding in to score) and the ‘tackling’ player isn’t doing anything dangerous, it should be play on imo. Seems this is one of hundreds of grey area in the laws, but I don’t see how this specific application does anything to protect players, and it actually removes a contest. I feel that the laws of rugby should only really do two things: protect a player, and then ensure a contest. This reading does neither.

How did Leinster smash this side? This is a great Tigers team. They will take it this year IMO

@karlosdeevs

Жыл бұрын

b-cuz Leinster are quite simply a class above

@alicecbradley

Жыл бұрын

Because Leinster is basically a different ball game… english rugby is not the same as our European counterparts :(

@karlosdeevs

Жыл бұрын

@@alicecbradley sad, but true (for now)

@davequiquegg

Жыл бұрын

The pack dominance. Tigers like to dominate in the scrum and breakdown and wear out the oppositions pack while being consistently good with kicking etc in the backs. The backs for both teams are even on paper but the packs are definitely not even! Too many good playmakers in the Leinster pack vs Leicester and jackals in the backs mean Tigers over-commit, get tired, out of place, sloppy, and then it's easy to pull them apart.

Ah quel moment il y a carton sur l’essai de Leicester ?!😕

allez la rochelle

@sethwilliams2156

Жыл бұрын

This translates to “go the rock” Do you like Dwayne’s movies

I'm a fan of neither team but good to see Ashton get the 100. The red is fine for a 2nd yellow but the reason for the yellow is madness. First I am fine about a player not diving on another after passing the try line or even dangerously diving onto a player full stop. But a sliding attempt at pushing the also sliding player into touch and ripping the ball? He didnt even land on him, dangerous or not. The game is a mess at the moment and I only see it getting worse.

@ofs82

Жыл бұрын

I guess the problem is that if the tackle is completed then he's going in off his feet (and in at the side too if a competition could be formed), but it's definitely a grey area. After all, is he meant to just wait to let Ashton try to place the ball over the line?! There are a few rugby rules like that that I don't like, where it seems like the intention of the rule is to prevent you stopping scoring. There's a yellow for taking a man in the air in a Leicester-Northampton game a few years ago when it isn't a kick, just a bad pass that George North has to leap high in the air to take. North is running onto the ball at pace, and there's no cover behind so the player tackling him (my memory wants to say Matt Scott?) is faced with either tackling a man in the air, or just stepping aside and letting North score because if he gathers that ball at the pace he's going, he's going to score sooner than the defender can react. It's hard to feel justified to punish the player when their only other option is to just go limp and let the other team score, just like with Woodburn here. And what if Hogg's tackle fails? Woodburn is trying to get underneath to hold the ball up just as much as he's trying to drive the man out.

@dougclark9921

Жыл бұрын

@@arrell1xyz Get ready for players looking they are on the slip and slide at a summer party

@dougclark9921

Жыл бұрын

@@ofs82 Yep - there are plenty of people on here saying the ref decided based on the rules. They are right but sometimes something happens where everybody thinks its not right. If its a 1 in mil event then its fine but what this has done is shown other players that if they dont get caught within 10m on a wet day that its a nailed-down try.

One of the (many) English players the French loved to hate except the Toulon supporters (like Sir Jonny). Finally I will miss his Ash Splah for which he should have filed a copyright...!

@dougclark9921

Жыл бұрын

Ben Cohen was doing it when Chris was in nappies

Maybe in future players should cover themselves in fairy liquid prior to the start of the game and dive for the tryline at the 22 since no one is allowed to touch them 😴

Boy, that Exeter defense was England-worthy. 😄

@karlosdeevs

Жыл бұрын

Leicester of last week-worthy..

I stopped watching after that second yellow/red card. Rugbys dead.

Woodburn red just another example of World Rugby kangaroo laws and refs. Killing the game.

Les escrocs de la coupe d'Europe battus à plate couture : ce n'est que justice ! 👏👏👏

@karlosdeevs

Жыл бұрын

who, Exeter? Saracens are the real crooks ask anyone..

@sethwilliams2156

Жыл бұрын

Racing fan I think

Is this the worst decision of the season? it just might be

@MadMarchTaffy

Жыл бұрын

Not the worst decision but probably the best example of why the current laws are just stupid in some cases

@benrawson007

Жыл бұрын

Letter of the law it is correct. However I can't remember it ever being enforced before. If it is consistent then fair enough but it's not.

@surfinkombi123

Жыл бұрын

@Joe He dove on Hoggy more than Ashton. And he was also going for the ball! What do we now do at rucks? Half the time the counter ruck is engaging with people who are off their feet and not supporting their own body weight? I know laws are laws, but there needs to be some sort of consistent enforcing! You know it's a wild decision when even Healey is defending Exeter!

@MattF_03

Жыл бұрын

@Joe how often do you see it though it’s like you’re now not allowed to make a try saving tackle it’s so often the second man goes in to try and hold the ball up and it’s never penalised until this game

@MattF_03

Жыл бұрын

@Joe so you’re just meant to let them score try’s now?

Well done ashy 🎉🎉

second yellow - what nonsense. officials are ruining the game.

@Cloggieclover

Жыл бұрын

@Joe no it's not Joe. Pipe down. you're on every comment

So glad we will soon be spared the Ashton swan dive, hopefully forever.

@karlosdeevs

Жыл бұрын

have some respect, there will be no one like him when he's gone

@garywagner2466

Жыл бұрын

@@karlosdeevs, no respect for arrogant jerks who rub their opponents’ faces in it. Notice he never brings attention to himself when he misses a tackle that leads to a try, which is happening more often. Good riddance.

@karlosdeevs

Жыл бұрын

@@garywagner2466 still better than rubbing his opponents off with questionable shoulder like certain other countrymen. For me the past is past, and i‘ll give credit where it‘s unquestionably due.

@garywagner2466

Жыл бұрын

@@karlosdeevs, if you mean Owen “I never learned how to tackle from my dad” Farrell, I agree. Deliberately trying to injure your opponent, year after year, should have resulted in lengthy suspensions. Instead, he was picked for England above much better players. No nepotism there. Another jerk I hope disappears into the sunset under new management.

@leopard708

Жыл бұрын

​@@garywagner2466 better you couldn't score 100 trys you sad thing

Sorry but that second yellow for Woodburn is ballocks. It’s just Karl Dickson craving some attention again and ruining a game.

@raypurchase1239

Жыл бұрын

@Joe he didn’t dive on him. It’s a ballocks rule.

@Justin-gm2fi

Жыл бұрын

Stop whinging and respect the reff

@alicecbradley

Жыл бұрын

@@raypurchase1239He clearly did dive on him it’s right there in 4K for you mate

@adamcarreras-neal4697

Жыл бұрын

@@alicecbradley bitter Chiefs "fan"

@alicecbradley

Жыл бұрын

@@adamcarreras-neal4697 huh? Im a tigers fan pal dont insult me like that🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Exeter will be destroyed by la rochelle

@karlosdeevs

Жыл бұрын

should be a tasty affair

Sam Simmonds is bad.

@MattF_03

Жыл бұрын

Clearly never watched many games with Sam Simmonds in he’s a game changing no.8

@karlosdeevs

Жыл бұрын

@@MattF_03 think he meant it in a nice way

@obaraabraham9934

Жыл бұрын

@Boba Fett That's my point. He has to be the best no.8 right now even for the Saxons.

@sibusisonogabe2220

Жыл бұрын

I am not a fan of his rugby but he's okay. I think you mean Joe Simmonds?

@obaraabraham9934

Жыл бұрын

@Sibusiso Nogabe No, Joe is Sam's brother. He plays 10 & 15 .

Red card pathetic. Ashton mesmeric.

What a pathetic yellow / red ruling. Ruining rugby one card at a time

@mvubu6823

Жыл бұрын

​@Joe give the penalty try then, but why the yellow and then red. It ruins the contest. Triple penalty for what wasn't even dangerous and I don't think he even touched the opposition

@mvubu6823

Жыл бұрын

@Joe I accept that he followed the laws, I think these new laws that encourage cards are terrible. A penalty try (guaranteed 7) is enough, UNLESS there is foul play.

@adamcarreras-neal4697

Жыл бұрын

@@mvubu6823 by definition, a penalty try is due to foul play. Not you're best bit of logic there. If they'd shown the first yellow, then we'd see if that one was harsh as the number of times we see a deliberate knock on not carded. He did come from a long way and slides in. A player is tackled when their knee hits the turf, if his momentum sends him over or close enough to reach out to score that is allowed as long as there's no double movement. There clearly isnt and the second player has clearly hit a man on the deck. It's a yellow, no amount of Chief's whinging will change that.

@Cloggieclover

Жыл бұрын

@Joe pipe down Leicester boy. You clearly don't know rugby