Hey, all! I just want to thank you for contributing to such a lovely discussion but admit I'm a bit overwhelmed by the volume of your responses. Please forgive me if I do not respond to every comment!

Hugh is what you'd get if Jon Stewart had spent his career hosting an NPR show about Buddhism instead of The Daily Show. I am, of course, here for it.

@3BMEP

2 күн бұрын

😊🙏🏻🖖🏻 Stewart is a national treasure!

@themastersofshadow8670

2 күн бұрын

Hear hear!!🖤🖤🖤

@aaronmoore3050

2 күн бұрын

It was so sad when NPR shut down their comments section, in 2016. Those were the days!

Specs doesn't matter anymore for non profesionals, any camera nowadays take good pics and usable video, user experience, fun an cool factor are what matters

I'm just here for the level headed approach to reviews and... the calm.

@3BMEP

2 күн бұрын

Happy to be of service. :)

People buy Leicas for the "Leica look," I think there is an argument that people buy Leicas for the "Leica Feel.'

@3BMEP

Күн бұрын

Absolutely!

I've posted this elsewhere but in the light of this review, I think it worth repeating here: I think that Leica may have missed a trick. Had they given it an APC sensor, I think they would have blown the Fuji VI out of the water. You used the term "gateway drug" ... I reckon that would be a gateway drug to the Leica systems. They obviously couldn't do a full frame version because that would wreck sales of the Q3 (and I'd be very surprised if there were ever to be a Q zoom because that would hammer M sales). But I reckon a zoom APC compact from Leica really would be the bee's knees.

@ContraGrain

Күн бұрын

It already exists in the form of the Leica CL, which to be fair is in dire need of a refresh.

@acliffalay

18 сағат бұрын

If they did release an APC sensor version, they would need to design a brand new lens, which would be much larger to offer similar wide apertures, the body would likely be larger, and would therefore be significantly more expensive compared to the X100VI. There is a wide gap in Leica's 'entry level' offerings in terms of price, so a £2500 Leica APS-C compact would have a distinct price point in their line up, but would put it in a completely different price category to the other enthusiast compacts like the Ricoh, X100VI.

@ContraGrain

18 сағат бұрын

@@acliffalay it literally already exists in the form of the Leica CL they just haven’t touched that system in years.

@acliffalay

18 сағат бұрын

@@ContraGrain I am aware of the Leica CL, but given that it has interchangeable lenses, its not really in the same market segment. Also it retailed for around $2795 body only, you'd have to factor in lens costs on top. Maybe the best comparison within Leica is the Leica X Series, APC fixed lens, with a variety of fixed focal length and zoom ranges. The X Vario was a lovely looking thing. Note the size of the 28-70mm lens, and the slow aperture range required for an APS-C zoom.

@user-nz9rj2kw4v

17 сағат бұрын

@@acliffalay I agree about the lens requirement (obviously) but I reckon that if Leica did produce such a camera and kept the price low (-ish) specifically with the intent to make life as difficult as possible for the competition, they would sweep up all those who would like a Leica but aren't prepared/can't afford to buy into the M and SL systems and would at the same time create a really serious gateway drug for those systems. In terms of price they would need to go for a minimised profit in order to compete but I reckon it would be worth the effort.

Thanks for mentioning the leaf shutter, with the tiny accessory flash attached, shooting fill flash in daylight is great and is something few current cameras can do. Years ago, i used to shoot with a flash in broad daylight with my Zeiss Ikon Contessa, and i do now with my Lumix LX100 mk i in the same way. I bought an LX100 for a NYC trip in 2019 and fell in love with it. I'm glad Leica has continued with the camera with minimal changes to the controls, the controls are absolutely fantastic for making changes while shooting without fussing with menus or unmarked dials. Considering the capabilities of the camera, which aren't easy to know without using it, the price is a bargain, in my opinion.

@martingreenberg870

2 күн бұрын

Hard to reconcile bargain and Leica in the same breath. Hope the D-Lux8 doesn’t come onto the radar of the TikTok influencers. I don’t want the unavailability and price premium they caused the X100VI I wanted but can’t get to apply to this body. Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)

Awesome Hugh , i could listen to you talking passionately about all things photography all day long . thank you.

Wonderful analysis of the DLux8 and its positioning and appeal. I have recently purchased the LX100 mk1 and mk ii and GX9 just because of the handling and styling - to add more fun back into the image taking experience that can be dulled by my other full frame and MFT cameras. For me, the unique appeal of the LX100 and the Dlux8 is the external aspect ratio control. This changes the way you approach image taking as you are thinking first about aspect rather than as a post production cropping exercise. There are also some nice monochrome options. Well done Leica! It's what the market wants and needs. Had just received my pre order email from local Leica store but already Sold Out when checking the order status!

@3BMEP

2 күн бұрын

WOW -- that was fast! Thanks for sharing!

Thank you Hugh for sharing commentary regarding print sizes. Words that come to mind: highly usable, fun, light, and more than capable.

@3BMEP

2 күн бұрын

👍🏼👊🏻😊🖖🏻

It'd be sweet if they did a Monochrom version of the D-Lux 8. It's got the filter thread already, and would probably be a blast.

@3BMEP

2 күн бұрын

Nice idea!

@LivingStr0nger

2 күн бұрын

I’m looking for a dedicated travel camera and am not quite sure this one is the one I am going to get… but a monochrome version would sell me immediately.

@yuidfbse

2 күн бұрын

Absolutely! That would be a huge success and put this camera in a category of itself. It's never gonna happen though it would be technically very simple

@WhipahSnapah

2 күн бұрын

Would be so fun. I wouldn’t be able to put it down.

A rebadged old Panasonic without even leica looks defies my expectations for Leica too.

Hugh, why couldn’t you convince Leica to re-issue their APS-C digital CL? 😊 I love that camera. As you know well, it accepts all the Leica and L-Mount Alliance lenses, M mount lenses with the M-Adapter-L, and Leica R-mount lenses with the R-Adapter-L. I picked up two Leica SF40 flash units for my CL and one I gave away. That flash is larger than the one you showed here, but smaller than the SF60 (which I also have). I wonder if the tiny flash would work on the CL. I was just in Wetzlar for 3 days last week. I didn’t think of looking at the D-Lux-8 and its accessories.

@mohdfarizolabdulghani7208

2 күн бұрын

It won't be CL2. It will kill Q3 sales easily.

@johnkasianowicz6536

2 күн бұрын

@@mohdfarizolabdulghani7208 Did the digital CL kill Q, Q2, and Q2 Monochrom sales?

@3BMEP

12 сағат бұрын

They had compelling reasons; I had the talk!

I've been following you for years. I love your videos. That's really all I can say. Keep up the good work. Best wishes from Germany!

@3BMEP

2 күн бұрын

Danke, Andreas!

I'm so glad to see you still giving M43 some love. I wish I had picked up a Lumix LX100 II back when you could get a new one, for travel. Now I have a second chance, though I will have to scrape together a bit more for it. Love your videos, keep up the good work.

@3BMEP

2 күн бұрын

It works, Steve! :)

@user-du3kt3dd4p

2 күн бұрын

@3BMEP and I still have an S90 as well. My wife likes carrying it when we travel, and I love getting raws from her photos.

@markhoffman9655

Күн бұрын

I got my retro fix with an Olympus PEN Lite E-PL9 and pair it with a M.Zuiko 25mm f1.8 for some rangefinder aesthetic ... lots of fun!

So many thoughts I have held onto. Just come here to listen to your voice.

this is the only camera my wife saw, and said "i want to buy that. i'd use it" and she's not even interested in photography. leica clearly knows what they are doing.

@3BMEP

2 күн бұрын

GREAT feedback, thanks!

Thoughtful content and honest commentary on D-Lux 8 competition. As a Leica biased photographer, the D-Lux is a good choice for those places where a camera with a removable lens is forbidden (concerts and sports for example) and the Q lens, while fabulous, is too limiting. I took a D-Lux 7 to Coachella a few years ago and loved what I was able to capture with it.

Seriously looking into this camera. I use to shoot a d-lux 5 years ago. It was one of my favourite cameras. Recently I have been shooting Fuji but can see how the simplicity of this camera will just encourage me to just go out and use it.

Always enjoy your posts and usually go into settings and speed the video up to 1.25 or 1.5...same content without such long pauses...who says you can't buy time. Keep up the great videos love them

@3BMEP

12 сағат бұрын

Hah! I get it from both ends. It's OK. Glad you enjoy them at whatever speed suits! ;)

You are just brilliant. Thank you as always.

@3BMEP

Күн бұрын

😊🖖🏻

I think the feel and the experience are the most important for this type of point-and-shoot cameras. Plus having a Zoom lens, Leica color science, EVF, and pocketable size, otherwise, I’ll be stuck with my phone for daily photography which is frustrating. Now let's say one takes their best shot with this camera and wants to print large can we just use an AI tool to upscale and not worry too much about 17mp? Would you try that?

Thank you, Hugh. I have been waiting for your video ever since I ordered my D-Lux 8 on May 23rd. Since then, I have heard so much negativity about this camera (mostly from people who have never even used one) that I began to question my purchase. But, after listening to your thoughtful commentary, I am glad I made the plunge. A couple of things, however: The D-Lux 8 only goes up to 1/2000 of a second, unlike the D-Lux 7's 1/4000. Why they dropped the speed, I don't know. So the 8 can only flash synch at 1/2000. Secondly, I have made some beautiful 20"x30" prints with my Panasonic GX85, which has 16mp micro 4/3 sensor, so I have no fear that the latter can perform just as well.

@3BMEP

Күн бұрын

First, enjoy! Second: both cameras (‘7 and ‘8) synch to 1/4000, although both physical dials only show up to 1/2000.

Hugh, Pete from the UK. I’m loving the content. I’m sure, like many amateurs I feel I’ve become a slave to the technology and the need to always buy and then upgrade on a regular basis, maybe to the detriment of just actually going out and using any of these amazing tools to capture images. Surely the skill lies with the photographer not the camera.

Great vid!

@3BMEP

Күн бұрын

Thanks, Don!

If shooting film for for the last few years has taught me anything any larger sensor (4/3 and bigger) camera can take amazing images. The a99 I bought to go along with my old a mount sony/minolta lenses is all the full frame camera I need. That said I would still take an x100vi over this for similar money.

The film you did was commissioned by the the library in my little city in Germany! 😮

@3BMEP

Күн бұрын

I so enjoyed working with her!

I appreciate learning the advantages of the D-Lux 8, but I'm very satisfied with my LX100 II. I think the thing I probably envy most is the new OLED EVF, but the LX100 II still has a surprising list of great features.

@3BMEP

2 күн бұрын

Thanks for sharing! 😊🖖🏻

Hugh I totally LOVE your reviews but this one was a bit of a head scratcher. If you go to DPreview and use their side-by-side tool to compare the DLUX7 (I still own the earlier DLUX) and this DLUX 8 it's as you said essentially the same. The prints you gushed over could easily have been made with the PREVIOUS DLux 7. The key seems to be about the "experience" and gestalt which it appears is something to consider when it is SOOOOOO close in visual cues to the Q. If the processor is from the Q then THAT would be something. But there's no mention of that. It's essentially a Q-affied version of the previous DLUX. (Not that there's anything wrong with that.)

@3BMEP

11 сағат бұрын

As I said and you've recalled, Peter, some will say it's a Q-iffed D-Lux 7; again, like you, I found nothing objectionable in that categorization. For someone who likes the idea of the but is more budget constrained, a used '7 or LX100 II may indeed be a better option. It's all good!

Nice little review. The leaf shutter is one of the reasons I bought my LX100 (after renting and doing an A-B with it and the Typ 109). I’m hoping it does sell like hotcakes.

@3BMEP

12 сағат бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

Another great video Hugh! Been looking at one of these since announced. Wish I had it on my recent Taiwan trip!

@3BMEP

2 күн бұрын

I understand. 😊🙏🏻🖖🏻

The review was great. When I saw the announcement for the D-Lux 8, then saw the price I was impressed. I never even looked at Leica due to the cost. I am definitely looking now. I can see where this camera would fit many people's photographic needs. Thanks for sharing!

@3BMEP

2 күн бұрын

Glad to be of service. 😊🖖🏻

Great video, as usual. If I didn’t already own the X100V I would consider this one. I think the 24-70 range is great for everyday use and travel. In my last trip there were moments that I would’ve liked that the X100V had a wider lens. I do own the TCL-X100 but it makes the camera so less pocketable. I did use the digital teleconverter a few times. My only “concern” about this Leica is the lack of weather sealing. As for the micro 4/3 sensor, I own a Lumix G7 and G9 and have had no issues with the sensor size. Of course, that’s my use case, which might be totally different from others.

Thank you for the video. I ordered one in May hoping it would be just what you are suggesting it is. I love the image quality of my Sony a7rv but i can not stand the menu system. Everything in that camera gets in the way of enjoying the process. I have taken a long hard look at what i actually do with my photographs and realized that 61MP is a waste for me and my computer hard drive space. I am looking forward to getting the joy back in the process! And I am hoping the camera does not take too long to acctuallt ship!!

@3BMEP

12 сағат бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

Loved it.

@3BMEP

2 күн бұрын

😊🙏🏻🖖🏻

Great review!

@3BMEP

6 сағат бұрын

Thanks! 😊 🖖🏻

Excelent, thanks!!!!

@3BMEP

Күн бұрын

😊🖖🏻

I am curious if they updated the auto lens cap to give a little more space to fit a filter. I recently put a polarizing filter on my DLux 7 and had to switch back to the standard lens ring and cap because the auto cap wouldn't close over it. And as a side note... I get it. I really enjoy my DLux 7 and am contemplating upgrading to the 8. I think people tend to get lost in the weeds in tech specs and forget about the holistic experience of using a camera. As you mention, this line certainly has shortcomings compared to other models (there's always something that does each individual thing better), but it has a lot of thoughtful, harmonious features which deliver a particular experience, and delivers it well. It is truly greater than the sum of its parts. You've got a very useful zoom range, great aperture, a good sensor/image quality, an excellent control layout/ergos (in my opinion), different aspect ratios, and crazy battery life all packed into an incredibly compact body for what it provides. I mean, where else are you going to find a zoom with that aperture on any other compact camera? Yes, it makes some sacrifices, but it does the job of a street/city/travel/daily carry camera exceedingly well.

I like this name “three blind men and an elephant “. 😂 All Chinese students learned this story in primary school in China.

Just watched this again, Hugh, and loved it just as much as the first time.

@3BMEP

2 күн бұрын

Peter, you’re always so generous - thanks, man! 😊🙏🏻👍🏼

@PETERFRITZPHOTO

2 күн бұрын

@@3BMEP I sincerely hope I can return to NYC one day (it's been 28 years!); to shake your hand and take part in one of your workshops. I feel lucky to hear from you regularly through this crazy-useful medium called KZread.

@3BMEP

2 күн бұрын

@@PETERFRITZPHOTO👊🏻😊

I was lucky enough to find a typ109 for under 500$ (CAD) a few years back. Love the camera, especially shooting with the flash.

@3BMEP

2 күн бұрын

Enjoy!

I love the idea of this camera but the real pisser for any potential purchaser is that the latest 25mp MFT sensor will already be lined up for the D Lux 9.

Nice review of a nice camera. It is not cutting edge, but it is more than sufficient for 99% of most peoples' photo-making. The one Leica compact camera I loved, and miss, is/was the X2. Same basic size as the D-Lux camera, APS-C sensor (that really amazing 16MP sensor that was so popular back then) and a killer 35mm eq lens. I wish Leica would resurrect something like that!

Great piece, love your style and keen insight. Refreshing to see someone who can look beyond tiresome complaints about specs, specs and more specs. It’s about the experience and results. Do I pick up the camera to go shooting or not?

@3BMEP

12 сағат бұрын

Thank you!

Thank you for your transparente at 02:55 👍🏻. Other reviewers „forget“ such things 😂.

Great video I have a D-Lux 7 and I am very happy with it. My Nikon has not got a lookin for years.

@3BMEP

2 күн бұрын

Continue to enjoy! 😊🖖🏻

Interesting commentary on the D-Lux 8. Looking forward to this fall's workshop. [been considering actually available alternatives to the x100vi ... supposedly ... I can actually get a Q3 - all black - and have it delivered by July 8 ... from ... wait for it ... ... Walmart ... 🤔]

@3BMEP

Күн бұрын

Looking forward to seeing you again, Ed! As for Walmart in the same sentence as Leica Q3…whaaat??? 😊

I own an lx100 it's very good and you get used to the messy buttons etc. I think this is good for someone who doesn't want to change pocket camera and wants a better experience. Remains to be seen if it is better. Oh I come from a contax G1 for the ones that still remember

It’s good to see a micro four thirds camera receive some love… even if it’s for the Leica brand. 😊

I definitely love having a point and shoot as a daily. When I'm not dragging out my A7Riv or even my beloved Q3, I have in my pocket my Sony RX100 vii. The D-Lux 8 looks like an amazing choice to keep handy.

@3BMEP

Күн бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

Great video Hugh! I may have missed it, are you getting one?😊 i've had the Fujifilm X-100iv on pre-ordered since February 😬 wonder if I should be looking at Germany for my next camera?

@3BMEP

2 күн бұрын

If you had any idea how much coin we've dropped over the last six months, you'd know the answer - but ask me again next year! ;)

It’s a beautiful camera for a carry round,far better than a phone,plus no lenses to buy.Good piece,thank you.

@3BMEP

12 сағат бұрын

My pleasure. :)

Hugh, could you please confirm or deny the presence of the "Perspective Control" feature in this camera? It was presented as having a similar firmware to the latest M, Q, and SL series cameras, which all have this feature, but I cannot find any mention of it in the manual for the D-Lux 8.

Looking forward to the arrival of this little guy - got on the list a mid June! A fun carry around when I don’t want to lug my 61.2MP full frame around - no, not an SL3 - an a7rv! Thanks for the review and we’re both - the same age!

@3BMEP

12 сағат бұрын

Have fun with both of them - we have an a7R V too, and it's an incredibly capable tool.

I've had a Sony RX100 VII for a while and have never really warmed up to it. The images are kind of flat and the menu system is a nightmare. I'm a Leica shooter with an SL2 and Q2 but like to have a compact for when I want or need one. I'm contemplating trading the RX100 for the D-Lux 8 for a few reasons, but mostly because it's a Leica and also that it shoots in DNG format. I don't expect it to be an SL2 or Q2, but it would be nice to have the Leica experience with a small carry everywhere camera.

Just ordered the D Lux 8 :-) My First Leica🤩 Love your Channel and obviously „Love“ you a Little Bit too 😉

@3BMEP

Күн бұрын

So glad you do - have fun with your ‘8! 😊🙏🏻🖖🏻

@gibbsomany

Күн бұрын

Thank you so much. Greets from the north of Germany 🙏🤩🫶📸

You my friend are a character named Ballistic in a video game called “Apex Legends.” I’m happy to see you out of the arena and in New York taking photos instead of lives.

@3BMEP

12 сағат бұрын

That's pretty cool!

Sir , your review is as always top shelf ! But I can not stop myself thinking that this camera is just the Leica marketing department looking for a nice packaging for an old Panasonic camera ... and I talk from a d-lux3 owner (and several M's) perspective + I have tested the d-lux8 for about few hours ..... aaaaaand this is not a baby Q by any means ...

@3BMEP

2 күн бұрын

I understand.

A great looking camera. I love Leica, I still shoot with the M3 and M4 and believe Leica is a great company with a interesting history.

Promising travel camera, but I think I will stick to my Sony RX100 for now….(a camera no one seems to remember is still available…)

Amazing video. The pixel peepers won't understand or accept the discussion on joy - it is lost on them and so is this camera which means more for us. What kind of printer/paper did you use to make those gorgeous prints?

@3BMEP

2 күн бұрын

Epson Premium Lustre🙂

Hi Hugh! We had the Panasonic version of this amazing camera (DMC-LX5) for the first half of the last decade. Images from that camera occasionally surface in the photos widget, and when they do, I’m always impressed. What an intriguing option this latest release is. A perfect travel camera for many. I’m still bringing the M and a few lenses on my trip, however! 😊 Terrific review, as ever. Best - Chris

@3BMEP

2 күн бұрын

Thanks, Chris! And thanks for sharing! 😊🖖🏻

Thanks for doing this review. It's just what I needed. However, now that I'm an old guy, who owned Leica gear many decades ago, I think I may want to get this camera. My main concern is that I have large and clumsy fingers and wonder if you think that makes this purchase a mistake for me. I do want simple but good performance, btw. With this limited info, do you think I should pursue a purchase? Cheers.

@3BMEP

2 күн бұрын

Well, just how large and clumsy? For comparison, I can palm a very grippy regulation size basketball, but my fingers are not particularly wide. Try to do a freeze frame of shots where you can see my holding the camera to compare!

1:30 Wow, that's crispy! 😃

@3BMEP

Күн бұрын

😎🖖🏻

Tempting, most tempting...

Great video. Perhaps wait for a few months until a LUMIX version is announced, the LX100iii maybe?

@3BMEP

2 күн бұрын

We shall see, but I expect not. :)

@Bayonet1809

2 күн бұрын

If Panasonic were to release an LX100 III it would undoubtedly be technologically driven and equipped with the new 25MP 4/3 sensor. Seeing as this does not have that sensor it seems like more of a sole Leica initiative to give a mild refresh to the D-Lux formula.

nice lx100 II with leica case at double price

Does it do Leica Looks???? I am loving it on the Q3 and SL3 for quick output!

Please advise me, Hugh. I have a d lux 109 as well as an M10-p and Q2. Do you think the new Leica d lux 8 is a significant upgrade from the 109? I can't really tell. The biggest differences seem to be Dng and Leica fotos access. Please advise if you can. Thank you.

@3BMEP

12 сағат бұрын

The answer to your question is YOUR answer to THIS question: what is it that you can't do with what you've got that you need or want and CAN do with the '8?

This sold out the 1st day. Join the queue in the back order list like all Leica cameras of the present day. Here in the UK who knows when.

I watch many of your videos and they are simply great. Outstanding. Interesting beautiful. A minor suggestion: my are toon span only 15 min. Great video! But I found it to be a bit too long. I hope it’s ok to tell you my personal preference. Thank you!

Im hoping for it to make it - this could be yet another way for beginners to get into photography with a "real" camera

This camera is tempting, with its size & leaf shutter (which you really don’t need opt stablzn for). It makes my Sony A7CR feel like a clunky & complicated electronic game controller. Thanks for this artsy review!

@3BMEP

Күн бұрын

My pleasure!

It will sell--but like hotcakes? Leica could not have offered a fixed-lens CL with a Q skin for a similar ticket? With the Maestro II processor? The target market does not print, really, do they? And if they do would they not prefer the definitely cool Leica Sofort 2? I'd be interested in an IQ comparison between this camera and an iPhone 15 Pro Max at 11x14 or even 15x20.

Somehow all this made me long for the OM E-M5 mk1 I had for years...to think that I just gave that camera away. Of course I do not have any lenses for that system anymore, but the camera was a joy to shoot with, very simple with jpegs only. Maybe Leica is on to something here, although...where does the smart money go?

I'm a serious photographer and I am seriously tempted. And I know from the real world that 17mpx will allow me to print to 30x20ins if necessary and also allow me to put any photo I take with the camera into a a reasonably sized book even up to coffee table size.

@3BMEP

Күн бұрын

Absolutely! Our largest m43 print - taken by Claudia - is 50” on the long side! 😊🖖🏻

Looks nice, im struggling to see the benefit over an Olympus E-PL10 (while you can find one). Brighter aperture I suppose.

@robertharrison9803

Күн бұрын

Stay with your Olympus😊

@RJ-dv5mg

Күн бұрын

Olympus f1.8 prime is a brighter equivalent aperture because the DLux8 doesn't use the full 4/3 sensor

Hugh, Hello, Great info. will the handgrip for the leica d lux 7 fit the leica d lux 8.Thanks

@3BMEP

4 сағат бұрын

I can’t say with certainty, sorry.

Also, it could be a good alternative to the Ricoh GR as well as the Fuji X100 AND you can buy one now, which you can’t for the others…

Have you tried the Xiaomi Ultra 14?

@3BMEP

2 күн бұрын

No

Sitting here still enjoying my D-Lux 7… no way am I spending more for this 8. Just bought the new Fuji X-T50 and love both these cameras. Leica blew their chance to compete in this price segment. Seems they were too lazy to put some new kit together.

Is that lead lens cap thingey removable the visuals give impression its removable and maybe a standard cap could be used ??

@3BMEP

Күн бұрын

Yes. 😊

I preordered based on this review and your images. Hopefully not a Q3 backlog.

@3BMEP

Күн бұрын

Best of luck to you!

The 1953 War of the Worlds “eyelid” reference was spot on. Somehow, Martian technology found its way to Wetzlar!

Another super review, Hugh! You have the memory of an elephant and knowledge to share. Both my Contax T2 are looking nervous! (By the way - i love your glasses - look similar to my new Saint Laurent frames - but i really like the nuanced look of yours. Can you tell me what brand they are?)

@3BMEP

Күн бұрын

Oakley! 🖖🏻😊

Hi Hugh! I have a D-Lux 7. Should I upgrade?

@3BMEP

2 күн бұрын

The question is yours to answer: what can't you do with the '7 that you need or want and CAN do with the '8? :)

@dtmoments

2 күн бұрын

I have the D-Lux 7 and I loved it so much. I just payed in Dubai for the D-Lux 8 and also have the Q3. I was hesitant when I read the initial reviews however we can argue why it’s a stupid upgrade… I still did it :) also here D-Lux 7 in Dubai for sale :)

@vitvel

2 күн бұрын

@@3BMEP As expected. Haha! Thank you!

@vitvel

2 күн бұрын

@@dtmoments I keep comparing Q with Dlux7's image quality which, I know, I shouldn't. Expecting the 8 to at least look close to the Q's image quality but that's dumb hence the question above. Just thinking out loud and being stupid.

@dtmoments

Күн бұрын

@@vitvelyou are not alone, I was also like hell I just paid 1,500 USD for almost entirely the same camera… however I feel that the new software much improved the experience and the usability of the camera 😅 so don’t worry, try it out and if you like to see, worth the upgrade

But the CL (digital) couldn't be continued?!

Hope that we will get a Leica MFT in a Pana GF1/2 GX1 form factor with up-to-date specs and Leica ease of use. Panasonic UI would be good enough - but Pana decided that they didn't have to keep up their best line of MFTs, sell huge MFTs and now a L-mount S9. On the S9 side: don't get it why Pana can't opt for a Leica EVF compatible hot shoe. As left eye dominant I can't stand build in EVFs on the left side... . Maybe Pana and Leica should rethink their aliance a bit further. Seems neither Leica nor Pana can't imagine how much market niche they can capture with products target to a new generation of photographers.

Hugh, 15:16 minutes. I thought the d-lux 8 shutter goes to only 2000 of a second, different than the d-lux-7?

@3BMEP

2 күн бұрын

Specs say 1/4000 mechanical. 😊

@Smokej620

2 күн бұрын

@@3BMEP the dial goes up to 2000 though,?

Once again Hugh, Thanks. But I do have a question, how is the viewfinder for someone who has glasses as I do? I'm leaning towards micro 4/3's anyways, so this would be an easy carry for an old fart like me if I can frame in the viewfinder.

@3BMEP

2 күн бұрын

Great question! I pretty much ALWAYS wish for a bigger finder for whatEVER camera I'm using, but once I accepted what the D-Lux 8 does well, I found (as I'm an eyeglass-wearer as well) that I could still get what I needed from the EVF - even if I don't love it.

And now, take that Canon S90, with brilliant snap zoom and CCD sensor into DxO DeepPrimeXD and you can shoot cleanly up to its max ISO.

I wonder if this camera, which I see is very much like the Panasonic cameras of the same design, will continue to such in dust without any ability to clean the sensor. My LX100's sensor is filled with dust and essentially usable after f/4. I would buy this camera, or the Panasonic version when it comes out, if the sensor was perfectly sealed from outside dust. Otherwise, I find it hard to pay from a camera whose dusty sensor I can't clean.

So this D-Lux 8 is selling for about the same price as the Fuji X100VI. Seems like a much better bargain with the Leica zoom. M4/3 sensor is smaller but the lens is better. Do I sell my X100F (which is just fine to keep and use) and pony up the difference? Too bad they went the variable aperture route. F2.4 or 2.8 constant aperture should fit the body with the 24-75 (equivalent) zoom. Small nitpick here, TLDR; I want one. PS, I still use my Canon s100!😂

I wonder if the reason they aren't doing an updated X1 is because it would parasitize the sales of the Q and M series, the same way the original CL did with the M5. I do find the X1 is the closest digital Leica to a Barnack aesthetics-wise.

Just a rebadged Panasonic LX100 ii introduced in 2018. Same sensor, same controls, etc. And at a MUCH lower price.

All we want is a Pen F ii.

If only lumix/leica decide to make a gx9ii with phase detect autofcus and a viewfinder. Not to mention the Luts and latest stabilisation. Hot damn... If we go as far as we want with hopes and dreams, slap in a monochrome mft sensor. Just think.... Gx9ii monochrome 🤤

I really do not care much for LEICA but I watch the video anyway as I like the voice of Hugh... strange isn't it?

I must admit Hugh those prints looked like quality.

@3BMEP

2 күн бұрын

They are! 😊🖖🏻👍🏼

@RealCelticGamer

2 күн бұрын

​@@3BMEPIf you hadn't said they were from the D-Lux 8, I would have thought they were from the Q2 Monochrom. They're sublime!

@3BMEP

2 күн бұрын

@@RealCelticGamer thanks! If you know the channel well, then you’ll be familiar with my refrain: “Yes, it’s about the gear, but no, it’s not about the gear: it’s about the people.” 😊🙏🏻

@3BMEP

2 күн бұрын

@@RealCelticGamer thanks! If you know the channel well, then you’ll be familiar with my refrain: “Yes, it’s about the gear, but no, it’s not about the gear: it’s about the people.” 😊🙏🏻

The drawback are no PDAF, 7+ year old Sensor with contrast detect only, and a 10+ year old lens design, from the LX100 (2014). Leica should have used the new Pana 25 MP MFT Sensor, with PDAF, and Panasonic should've created a new, better LX100 Mk. III -which Leica would have used as barebone for this new D-Lux 8, incl. with a new 24-75/1.7-2.8 lens - would love to see a internal focusing, mechanical coupled zoom, and sharper at the corners, etc. And for 1098 bucks, Leica. 🙂 It's a re-cycled, re-cycled LX 100 II (like D-Lux 7) but as a sexy baby Q3 body, with the Q3 menu style - and better build quality body - hence therefore the price increase. The D-Lux 7 looked too much like the LX100 Mark II Panasonic, from the buttons and menus. I would buy one, if it would being 500 EUR cheaper. The best from the D-Lux 8 is the baby Q3 style, -menu system and body shell, and also the upgraded LCD and especially the EVF update. If only it had a better Sensor with PDAF, and a better performing lens.