"You own every bullet you fire." This statement is so powerful. It will stick with me forever. Thanks Tim and Eric for being the providers of it!

@ndeepowder

5 жыл бұрын

more specifically every bullet you fire owns you

@venomx4093

5 жыл бұрын

Every bullet you fire has an attorney attached to it.

@dinklezucc5982

4 жыл бұрын

@Gerrit Peacock DOCTOR TO DOCTOR *horse noises*

@temetnosce17

3 жыл бұрын

@Gerrit Peacock For your health

@makevelicustoms

3 жыл бұрын

In 2021 no one will own anything 😋

I like the way Eric always starts with 'Welcome back everybody' it makes me feel that my whole life in between episodes is a series adverts :)

@strilight

9 жыл бұрын

***** Yeah, it's like iraqveteran8888 is just one long episode that's been running for years.

@bornfree2237

9 жыл бұрын

***** ...and his face after a shot, he looks back at the camera and you can tell he loves his job. Like a kid on Christmas... Every time; every shot!

@nataliakruschev5078

8 жыл бұрын

+srspower It's that southern comfort.

@compulsor5853

6 жыл бұрын

srspower

@robertkwiatkoski1292

Жыл бұрын

gun blue490 does the same "welcome back".

"Every bullet you fire has a lawyer attached to it" 1:57 well said eric

@828enigma6

3 жыл бұрын

Wish everyone had a lawyer IN FRONT OF IT.

"...you own every single bullet you fire..." This truth can not be emphasized enough.

Good times!

Tim and Eric, Awesome show. Great job!

That 194 grain is awesome for home defense. Subsonic and with the right suppressor you won't be blowing your ears out and you'll still cause plenty of damage

@bullheadedgideon1673

4 жыл бұрын

Do you think there are better calibers for home defense, in regards to over-penetration? (How that 194gr is) I'm looking for a PCC/AR pistol for home defense &, for the life of me, I can't pick a caliber. I feel like i find new information every day that concludes "there actually are much better options for home defense, in regards to over-penetration." Is that 194gr 300blk round the "cream of the crop?" Our is there anything, in your opinion, that is actually better? (Even if it's only by a small amount)

@catosicarius3262

4 жыл бұрын

@@bullheadedgideon1673 The problem is that there are simply too many variables for "best" caliber or even specific round in a caliber. Important things to consider like; where is the home located (rural, suburbs, middle of town...), what the layout is, who would be using it to defend the home, do you have kids, were are the rest of the family likely going to be should you have do defend the home, even what the house is made out of (a lot of bricks? adobe style home...). You could ask 10 different people and get 10 different definitive answers (that all might technically be correct for that persons specific needs). I would post the same question on some active forums, give some more context for your personal circumstances, what you have available, what your are comfortable with. I imagine the thread would quickly become a shouting match between a couple stubborn posters but you should to to make a better decision based on responses. You could also drop the question into the comments section of firearm youtubers, whenever any of them make a new video pose the question asap and it will get a lot of views and opinions. I hope you can find your answer.

@bullheadedgideon1673

4 жыл бұрын

@@catosicarius3262 Thank you for the response. Well my main criteria is: what has enough "power" to put somebody down quickly, that would penetrate the *least* amount of walls. That's just about all I'm concerned with. & if that comes to a round that is easily suppressable, then even better.

@CASTRO45ACP

4 жыл бұрын

@@bullheadedgideon1673 If your super worried about over penetration and really want a PCC then the round you're looking for has been around for over a hundred years, the 45acp will suppress very well, but stops dead in it's tracks if it hits hard barriers even in +P loads and will dump a good amount of energy when hitting soft targets, I love the versatility of the 300blk though.

@thinkinsidetheboxsquarecir3303

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah don't wanna wake my kids while removing any intruders 😁

2 of my fave channels collaborating...nice!

It's honestly really cool to see all you guys working together on these videos on firearms and testing. Same for Mr. Guns and gear

@bigredone1030

Жыл бұрын

I prefer mr gunsngear. MAC is such a headass

thanks so much for teaming up, taking the time, money and effort to produce these tests. very eye opening information

watched both videos, loving the results. Love seeing the 300 blackout improving and being a worthy contender with a LOT of versatility..

that slow mo is on point! Thanks guncollective!

This was a great video! My two favorite youtubers collaborating on a video about something Im already interested in. Those rounds look like alot of fun. Thanks Tim and Eric

It's great to see MAC and Iraqveteran8888 on the same video. Let's see some more.

I'm very proud to say I have been an avid sub to both channels for ALONG time now. Always happy and impressed. Keep up the good work

This channel is filled with a plethora of information. Thank you guys as always.

Love both of yalls channels. And yall mesh and work very vell together. Hope to see more collaborations in the future.

You two guys make an awesome team. Thanks for your video because i just bought a Daniel Defense 300 black out.

@ryangreen6250

5 жыл бұрын

Meow kitty how’s your rifle holding up?

I appreciate how you do the long distance effective range shots, and put situations like this together. This is the shit I want to see. Thanks!

You guys have some of the most comprehensive videos out there. Thank you for being so informative

Great vid guys! If you get another chance, I would love to see an additional test. Lining up a gelatin block 3-5 feet in front of a simulated wall, with another exterior wall 8-10 feet behind it, simulating an assailant attacking, with a room and exterior wall behind him (respectively behind the assailant). The block itself would need to be of sufficient length to simulate the average human torso, then fire these rounds into that block simulating a home CQC scenario. Using the rear two walls (one interior, one exterior with siding) as witness plates to show what over-penetration- if any, occurs, and just how much collateral damage it could cause after successfully engaging and striking an assailant.

@CoGhostRider

7 жыл бұрын

Alloyaha I like this suggestion but I would like to add a second block behind the outside wall to simulate the collateral damage

@CoGhostRider

7 жыл бұрын

Alloyaha I like this suggestion but I would like to add a second block behind the outside wall to simulate the collateral damage

@CoGhostRider

7 жыл бұрын

Alloyaha I like this suggestion but I would like to add a second block behind the outside wall to simulate the collateral damage

Guys, that was great work, you both went above and beyond to make this a great self and hunting class; especially educational with the urban setup. Thanks

This is a great way to amuse and educate about LeHigh ammunition. That's to Eric and Tim for a really good set of videos today.

Amazing tests! I'd also love to see the .223 tests on the same bullets.

Lots of homes in my area have brick outer walls. I'd like to see how these or similar projectiles behave after hitting one layer of brick, insulation, and drywall.

Thanks Eric,Tim and Barry

Great to see you two together. THANKS!

That is a nasty rifle! Love the videos Eric! Been watching for many years.

I find it interesting that every time Eric loads a round he uses the charging handle, and Tim uses the bolt release.

Very cool collaboration with Tim. Both videos were great. Hope to see more in the future.

Hey Tim and Eric, awesome show! Great job!

that's something that isn't often discussed, every bullet has consequences.

If you're going to use a rifle for home defense, have bullet resistant 'drywall' installed. Look up ArmorCore walls. They do up to Level 8 (which can stop 30-06). That way you won't kill your neighbors or kids (unintentional Planned Parenthood). Would love to see this channel test bullet resistant wall panels.

One of the best videos you guys have made. Great stuff!

Very interesting results. Neat way to learn about the 300 Blk and the Lehigh ammo! Thanks guys!

Wow, I guess you can judge the success of your videos based on the amount of trolls you attract. Congratulations Eric, you are VERY successful.

Note to self: soda bottles do not make for good armor.

@tyfowler3155

6 жыл бұрын

Stack them 6 deep and you're GTG...Lol.

@vincedibona4687

5 жыл бұрын

But they are fun to shoot! Mr. Paul Harrell loves them, and I imagine his local supermarket loves him for it, too!

@virgosintellect

5 жыл бұрын

I seen obesity ironically stop HP bullets from expansion and it protected vitals, where leaner people would have fared far worse.

Both videos were great. Thank you.

outstanding video and info..one of the best I've seen so far..gives me needed info for my .300 BO..thank you both very much..

so you wind up in court and the jury hears you used a controlled chaos bullet

Hey. In Southern Indiana it's about 100 degrees down here. Feels like the gates a Hell.

@spencerbyrd2545

9 жыл бұрын

105 here in OK

@kentnordland138

6 жыл бұрын

I exist in SoCal. We get temps of 114 during our summer. I moved here from Chicago in 1974 and still haven't warmed up yet. Quit yer bitichin". Thank God you don't have the gun laws we have in the Democratic Peoples Republic of Kommiefornia.

Great review guys, both gentlemen put out excellent content. We need more channels like Eric and Tim's.

I like the collaborations. Great video, guys.

even tho you maybe sued in civil court for a neighbor getting killed which we should prevent of course, the felony murder rule applies to the intruders and not you, unless theres gross negligence than that may change things.. meaning the intruders that are breaking in a "felony" are responsible for any loss of life no matter who pulls the trigger. for example if two intruders bust thru your door and you kill 1 of them in self defense the other intruder gets charged with murder even tho he shot nobody. thats the felony murder rule.

@ryangreen6250

5 жыл бұрын

JB what states does that law apply too?

@yesac101

5 жыл бұрын

Depends on the state in Washington you will be charged even if its self defense it will be a lengthy legal battle to not go to prison.

@ryangreen6250

5 жыл бұрын

yesac101 I wonder how often people go to jail for defending their family. It’s probably a good idea to let people know they will be shot and killed if they trespass and break into your home

@yesac101

5 жыл бұрын

@@ryangreen6250 hopefully never but leftist states tend to side with criminals because they are the real victims

Tavor + Lehigh 300 BLK + suppressor = beast

@GartenhausLP

9 жыл бұрын

LibertyChive make that a manticore arms integrated suppressor and you're good to go

@scubadiver1965

9 жыл бұрын

LibertyChive The only problem with that is getting a 300 Tavor....

@chivenyc

9 жыл бұрын

scuba diver I know. I've only seen one or two prototypes, but free market will deliver.

@scubadiver1965

9 жыл бұрын

That's what I'm hoping for. It should be just a barrel change with the 300BLK they already have the 9mm conversion for it.

@binyamj

9 жыл бұрын

LibertyChive Have you shot a suppressed Tavor? It's a terrible experience. Not fun, not nice.

Nice to see you guys together!!

Didn't know that about pistols and brass bullets. Very good clarification. MAC and IV8888 doing the community a service as usual.

im becoming blaclout fan

It's a 7.62x39, _exactly same ballistics_. I think the 300 blackout has 51 feet extra effective range because of better manufacturing standards. My personal opinion is the *TWICE* larger cost compared to wolf isn't worth that, I'll just shoot two wolf for one blackout if I'm really needing those 51 feet. A subsonic 7.62x39mm might be superior, depending on loading. members.shaw.ca/cronhelm/762ProjectRifle.html

@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595

8 ай бұрын

And 8 years later the price gap on the 2 has closed.

Props for talking about the potential for stray bullets when shooting in a populated area. This isn't discussed nearly enough by most people when home defence is discussed, and it really should be.Very often the people who have carbines/powerful handguns for home defence don't recognise how much a bullet can pass through and still be deadly. Awareness and education is good stuff, especially when it comes to topics that can save lives from pointless death by a stray round or ricochet or whatever else. Keep up the good videos man.

You guys are some of my favorite channels!

I would like further verification with what he said about handgun firing brass rounds, Lehigh makes pistol extreme penetrators, so how are you able to buy them legally? Or is he referring to self defense applications ?

“Now this is beef rib” In my hick voice

Great video guys! Cool to see collaborations between KZread famous people!

I like this series, you guys are user-friendly.

Let's do it.

jean material from the fabric or gene material from the ribs? ;)

What a fantastic team! You guys are great together. Thanks for a super informative video

I was just asking about the 78 gn ammo on the MAC video, and you guys already did it, in fact, you guys did exactly what I hoped for. Thanks!!!! Learned so much. Now I need to build a 300blk ar.

seriesly what a waste of a beautiful comfortable looking recliner.

lol "not enough velocity to hurt someone on the other side of the door"...I dare you to stand behind the door.

@atillathefun6060

8 жыл бұрын

300 Blackout is worthless for anything other than suppressed subsonic. Also, your face is painful to look at it's so ugly.

@maximusjoseppi5904

8 жыл бұрын

you do realize it is almost identical to the 7.62x39 right? it does the same job, just can do more jobs cause they make it in more weights.

@bench175

8 жыл бұрын

Atilla The Fun That's not what your mom said lol.

@dollydrill5816

6 жыл бұрын

Why would they do that when it won't pettle the same way you fucking idiot.

@ryangreen6250

5 жыл бұрын

dolly drill what does pettle mean?

different perspective thank you guys. recently bought an 8.5" .300 blackout and this is eye opening.

Great video guys--I enjoy both your channels, thanks for the hard work, great content videos

can you guys do this testing with .223/5.56 with different grains and bullet types? I would like to see a standard ar round doing this.

got a little bro-mance goin on there

@bobby1970

6 жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong with that. I like men in that way, myself. I love the trouser trout.

Just now watching this video and the sibling video and subscribing to both channels. You and Tim do an awesome job. Great videos.

Very good video and great comparisons between rounds. Excellent work, appreciate all the work you guys put into the videos. Was very well thought out and definitely not a cheap video by any means. As always keep the good work and great content. I will definitely be running these rounds in my next 300 blk build thanks to you guys!!

I see Tim and Eric, but where is Sootch hiding at?

@masonpayne3912

6 жыл бұрын

mwam1985 Probably dealing with the craziness of Matt on Demolition Ranch

you reference you cannot shoot specific types of ammunition out of the pistol configuration. where is this info posted and where can I find it?

(Eric)" I am surprised... I have been surprised today"! love your show's. Good stuff😃

Impressive test set up guys. This is a great service to people.

"You own every bullet you fire" I guess someone forgot to tell that to the evil AR-15's

Killer rounds... literally

@xDXPxJOEx456x1

9 жыл бұрын

STG TACTICAL CANADA Well I guess that can be said about all bullets but I see your point.

@supermoon1430

9 жыл бұрын

People kill not guns or bullets

@tiptopexteriors9374

9 жыл бұрын

Harley pierce serious?

@MrLucht

9 жыл бұрын

Harley pierce No bullets kill people, people murder people.

@tiptopexteriors9374

9 жыл бұрын

That sounds a little more accurate cuz I was pretty sure that a bullet can kill you .. ya it takes a person and a gun but the bullet is how the killing is done......... like a nail holds two pieces of wood together but you need to put the nail in the wood so you wouldn't go around saying people hold two pieces of wood together not nails

I was already binge watching military arms channels videos then this came out! I love these collabs.

Excellent video and excellent perception as to a real, crucial reality. And yes a flyer round could become a felony. Costing you dearly.

Could you show how the round would react after hitting a soft body target first then through the wall and chair

@MichaelCook1981

5 жыл бұрын

The 78 grn and 110 grn would probably go through the vest, the 194 grn won't go through body armor (not enough velocity).

@robinraphael

4 жыл бұрын

Good idea

I still think a shotgun is the best close quarters-home defense option.

@smartacus88

9 жыл бұрын

There is a medium to be had. I load my home defense shotgun (12ga) with 2 3/4 inch shells loaded with 1 1/2 ounces of #2 lead shot. This is an old school waterfowl load. Out to 15 or ao yards it is every bitbas effective on an organic target as 00 buck yet it isn't as prone to go through walls. Any time you discharge a firearm indoors you're taking a chance of hurting someone you might not intend to. That's just something you have to accept. Practice house clearing drills and choose your load carefully to fit your needs and you minimize this risk however.

@jhondoe1600

9 жыл бұрын

***** ill pass on that. if any one of the goons who busts your door down is wearing armor (or if its some pigs doing a no knock warrant) you will wish you had an AK or an AR with a stackful of mags beside it.

@smartacus88

9 жыл бұрын

Jhon Doe Even in a stressful situation i believe i have the nerve to maintain my composure under fire. If the person/persons invading my home are armored i will notice it immediately and i will shoot them in the face. It doesn't matter if you have an AK or an AR f they're wearing rifle plates because the ammo available to you and i will not defeat a rifle plate. In a very fluid situation I'd much rater be trying to shoot someone in the head with a shotgun than a rifle.

@smartacus88

9 жыл бұрын

I agree 100% I was just entertaining the guys question. My reply was purely theoretical in nature. The idea that cops or gangsters in armor would invade my home is laughable.

@Shadowborg

9 жыл бұрын

***** Even the weakest target ammo from a shotgun can go through a wall and injure someone on the other side. 00 buck can go through several walls, perhaps even after going through an intruder. I keep 3" shells with 1-7/8 ounces of #4 in mine right now as we have neighbors close by. No matter what load always be mindful of what's behind your target. Also a lot of people say birdshot is inneffective. Look up "birdshot wounds" on google images. Unless you are HIGHLY drugged or wearing armor, I doubt you will continue your assault after recieving a wound like that. But the wound may not be fatal which leaves you open to lawsuits and such. Kind of a catch 22.

I like how you guys did your own videos together way to go cooperation style

As always you've done another excellent video Eric...

Why would you want a round you fire in your home to go THROUGH walls and endanger your neighbors? Wouldn't you want it to stop on hard targets?

@BulletSpoung

8 жыл бұрын

+AirsickCashew - Some people don't have neighbors.

@emburgess7186

8 жыл бұрын

+BulletSpoung Or don't like their neighbors...loL

@Genevasuggestions1

8 жыл бұрын

+em Burgess lol

just put the whole video on both channels for fucks sake

Two of my favorite "arms guys". Great presentation. Gotta follow up with the MAC sequel!

Those slow-mo watermelon shots were awesome! It was great to see Tim hanging out with you guys.

I would much rather use a 110 grain vmax than any of these Lehigh rounds

@drexxler138

6 жыл бұрын

I would much prefer a 7.62x39 then any .300blkout

@lantzfamilyadventures5845

6 жыл бұрын

Go watch a video on how terrible those 110 Vmax expand

When is the glock meltdown coming?

@cwsmith17

9 жыл бұрын

Jayesh Patel I can't wait for the fanboy fury.

@sluggle7694

9 жыл бұрын

It'll be chaos

Excellent work, guys! Thanks!

I really loved this video & am quickly becoming a fan of the 300BO Thanks Eric & Tim ( who's channel I'm a subscriber to as well )

Guys, I gotta be honest, this is not an ideal test. I get demonstrating misses, but what would be more useful when demonstrating choice for an HD round is a gelatin block in front of that material. We want to see what kind of risk remains after we have hit the target. We need to see what rounds will over penetrate after hitting a body.

@Code_Made

5 жыл бұрын

Make a vid then

Hey guys, I have watched this video about 10 times and I cannot see who you can say any of those rounds are good for home defense in terms of over penetration. The slow-mo on those shots show a very robust round that probably had enough energy to cause a terminal wound. That is why I feel any rifle used in home defense is suspect. There is just too much energy behind the round. Anyone sitting in that chair or standing behind that door would suffer a terrible if not lethal wound. Was there any follow up on this test?

@Adamorevo

7 жыл бұрын

It seems they just don't want to say anything bad about Lehigh. Imagine the anti comments against such a conclusion.

@kentnordland138

6 жыл бұрын

I agree, too much power, awkward handling, Same with shot guns. I feel that my Glock 23 with Crimson Trace Green Laser Grips,(in the knee well of my desk) or my SIG P229 .40 S&W, with a Stream light/laser, ( on the headboard of my bed).will serve me quite well if the feces collides with the rotary ventilator! Which I hope and pray, never comes. Keep in mind that I'm 77 years old and haven't shot in a three gun match since the 1980's. I've spent most of my money on bullets, bikes, and broads. The rest I wasted.

@205jab4

6 жыл бұрын

Michael White I don't think they where saying hey look these are harmless after walls. they where showing you what to expect. they also said some of these rounds would be great barrier blind options, like the controlled chaos

@Homecar220

6 жыл бұрын

Sure. If you live in a home where there are family members between you and the intruder or something to that effect, maybe a rifle isn't a good option for you. But I hate to break it to you, modern handgun rounds also go through drywall and chairs and doors etc. A rifle like an AR-15 is ideal for home defense, as its easier to point and shoot, has less recoil to manage, generally higher capacity, and causes more damage to the intended target. I've seen with my own two eyes, people shot multiple times with handguns and multiple times with rifles ... the rifle is the way to go. There is a saying in law enforcement: Use your handgun to fight your way back to a rifle. This is why every officer and civilian I've ever trained, I've recommended they use an AR or similar rifle for home defense. Only reason I don't carry an AR as a CCW is because it makes my pants sag too much.

@MTMILITIAMAN7.62

6 жыл бұрын

Anything capable of providing enough penetration to reach vital organs and stop an assailant is going to "over penetrate" some of your typical lower/middle-class domiciles. Dry wall and those faux wood panel Walmart furniture just doesn't stop bullets very well, and a six year old can punch a screwdriver through your typical foam-core door. Do the same test with 00 buckshot or a .45 and you'll see a lot of them make it out the other side as well. You need penetration to kill, so rounds with reputations for lethality penetrate pretty well. That's life.

looks to me like the 78 grain is a great choice for home defense. Hits hard in soft tissue. Looses energy, and breaks up going through walls.

Very educational, and to say the least very important for home owners with family.

hate when people make a comparison video and then do not make a definitive statement on which they feel is better. "it depends what you want out of it..." cop out for making a decision for fear of being criticized. clearly you dont want the one that penetrates through a wall, a chair, and a door. (they all kinda did that so its prob a bit too strong of a round entirely) you should be able to identify your target before you shoot it, so shooting through a wall is almost always going to be irrelevant in self defense. not only can you not see the target but your chances, as you clearly showed, of hitting it are very small. not to mention, try explaining to a judge why you had to shoot from the safety of your room at a guy on the other side. if you had to choose one, the 78 is going to be the safest to shoot in a home as it didnt make its way through everything entirely. theres your real answer. it also could probably kill werewolves as its silver tipped.

@iboarshock7059

8 жыл бұрын

I prefer it this way... they present the information, I decide for myself. If they tried to pin a rating on them, it would be based on conditions and priorities that they consider most relevant to them, but quite possibly not to me. Where I live any hazards caused by overpenetration are minimal, so while the relative hard/soft penetration info is important, a cartridge would not get down-checked from me simply because it kept punching through a bunch of obstacles.

@maximusjoseppi5904

8 жыл бұрын

doesnt matter to you until you have to pay to fix your car you shot through 2 walls and a chair

@Alloyaha

8 жыл бұрын

I agree to some extent... but I think the intent of the video is not to simulate "blind fire" through a wall... but if you were to miss (which does happen in the heat of the moment), what would happen to that round, and how far could it go? Obviously you want to clearly identify your target, and have no other recourse but to engage, while controlling your shots to stop an assailant without firing errant rounds. But if you're getting rushed with a knife, or shot at, you may not have the luxury of perfect aim. Now what I think would be an even better test, would be to line up a gelatin block 3-5 feet in front of a simulated wall, with another exterior wall 8-10 feet behind it, simulating an assailant attacking, with a room and exterior wall behind him (respectively behind the assailant). The block itself would need to be of sufficient length to simulate the average human torso (since ballistic gelatin is an average viscosity of tissue and bone, so duplicating human dimensions would yield a less-than-average-mass result), then fire these rounds into that block simulating a home CQC scenario. Using the rear two walls (one interior, one exterior with siding) as witness plates to show what over-penetration- if any, occurs, and just how much collateral damage it could cause after successfully engaging and striking an assailant.

@maximusjoseppi5904

8 жыл бұрын

ya, i agree totally. shoot through the gel from 3 feet away and see how far the 300 goes then. thats a lot more realistic of a home defense situation. still think 223 is going to be better on all counts though when it comes to shooting in your home.. its made to fragment and wont punch through nearly as much. that being said, i love the idea of a 220gr 300 saying fuck you to a dangerous intruder.. sounds pretty boss

@Alloyaha

8 жыл бұрын

Maximus Joseppi Legalities aside- I've always been interested in large caliber subsonic frangible rounds. Nasty for the bad guy, but over-penetration risks would probably be very minimal.

Hey murica build your walls out of brick. end of story

Tim and Eric awesome show

Nice demo of the what the round can/will do in a home defense scenario. Good stuff to think about.

Great vid. informative, right to the point, thank you for your service!

The two best firearm channel hosts on the same video? Awesome!

Great video! You both are great to watch. "... no watermelons were harmed in the making of this video. Oh wait..." Keep up the good work! RIP Barry.

I was wondering when Tim was going to make a special appearance on here. You guys did an awesome job on the video. Well done!

i like the slow motion review nicely done.