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"Handguns put holes in people. Rifles put holes through people. Shotguns remove chunks from people." -Clint Smith.
@sixfootdworf9545
3 жыл бұрын
Err, what I heard from my grandpa is "Shotguns take shit that makes a person, removes that shit, and places it on the walls."
@faust167
3 жыл бұрын
Also good to remember: "You stick your head up in a fight somebody's gonna put canoe in that bitch."
@csmac3144a
3 жыл бұрын
@@faust167 Don't put your head up at all and they'll flank you.
@mikebeddingfield2144
3 жыл бұрын
And that taser will make a person soile them self, found out the hard way once.
@miamislice3280
2 жыл бұрын
I hate that saying, every one of those will "put holes through people" except some .22s and I mean SOME.
Was nice seeing Barry, god bless his soul.
@joshuagibson2520
3 жыл бұрын
I do miss that man. He represented us common people. With common sense.
@jerrya6855
3 жыл бұрын
RIP to the legend himself
@bassmangotdbluz3547
3 жыл бұрын
He was the ELVIS of the Gun World. The mantle has since been passed to HICKOK45.
@talonmak
3 жыл бұрын
Amen brotha, may he Rest In Piece.
@bend1483
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
If they could make the smell of a fired .22 into a cologne, I would buy it.
@solomonstello
Жыл бұрын
Mmm gunpowder
@solomonstello
Жыл бұрын
They definitely can.
@bunberrier
Жыл бұрын
In the mean time, you might pass a dry patch through your 10/22 then rub that on for the holidays.
@viktormogilin307
Жыл бұрын
Yes I agree, it's the smell of sulphur, a powder designed for short cartridges or shotgun with lower pressures & really has that old world smell about it, the new powders don't have that aroma, the old cordite has, you won't be the first to comment, I remember as a young adult in military service coming home to visit family & my grandmother (she'd lost 6 husbands due to war), 1890's onwards, she lived past a hundred, commenting on how I reminded her of her younger days, I was using Imperial leather soap, old spice, czar & deep woods after shave, that I presume have all been discontinued, wreaking with witb fine machinery oils with cleaning rifles & all tools with the same oils & maintaining leather with beeswax rubs, these days as someone who's getting a little more in years what brings back those memories is EEZOX Premium gun care, has the same smell of leather & old world charm with premium care & my grandmothers memories 🍻😊👍
@viktormogilin307
Жыл бұрын
EEZOX PREMUIM GUN CARE, that's the cologne for REAL MEN, take it from my GRAN'MA' or get of my verandah (porch), she's lookin' over me now 🍻😊 Let me know if you like? 😶
When I was a kid, .22 lr, was all we could afford to buy. And yes we are a lot of mule deer, in western mountains. Shot placement critical. My old man was a stickler for not causing unnecessary suffering, so close range and shot placement paramount
@mikefarmer4748
Жыл бұрын
So many people don't understand when you say " I just want to kill it, I don't want to hurt it. "
@danielaramburo7648
Жыл бұрын
If you gotta eat, and a 22 is all you have, sorry animal, you are meat, I am hungry.
@PhonkinPlants
Жыл бұрын
That's a good man, a good soul.
thanks for having me out! 🇺🇸
@GarbageDanks
3 жыл бұрын
Have a little cottonmouth there bud?
@MrRourk
3 жыл бұрын
It was a great team up
@chrissewell1608
3 жыл бұрын
@@GarbageDanks That must have been from the Ga. heat this year.
@ralphaelt.novella2547
3 жыл бұрын
You have a great channel as well...you guys did a great job on this presentation..👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸😁
@SweetDDaddy
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely LOVE seeing you guys together!
Paul Harrell's meat target videos really do a great job of showing what's what.
@alexduke5402
3 жыл бұрын
Lol why do people pick on him so bad? Between asp saying"I don't shit vegetables" to that other no name. The meat targets isn't scientific he says it's not but people say well it isn't consistent. How consistent is the human body? I think the meat target is a great rep of what one may be shooting at
@benjaminlivesfree8649
3 жыл бұрын
@@alexduke5402 if I had to pick one person from yt to be on my team it would be him . What other medium can show anything more realistically? Haters hate , bottom line. Mr Harrell is teaching from pure , raw experience. You don't even have to have a clue to realize that.
@bassmangotdbluz3547
3 жыл бұрын
In spite of his ...... Shatneresque pauses.
@bassmangotdbluz3547
3 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminlivesfree8649 I truely respect the experience of Paul Harrell but my pick for a team mate would be Hickok45; he's ELVIS, man.
@benjaminlivesfree8649
3 жыл бұрын
@Nicholas Rodriguez naked gaint blocks of gel that are invertebrates.
Great video as always 👍 Also a note for defense-minded gun owners: The overwhelming majority of defensive gun uses end with ZERO SHOTS FIRED... “Stopping power” begins with having the gun with you and knowing when/how to deploy it defensively.
@henryjantz
11 ай бұрын
It's not that I don't believe you, but how do you know this to be true?
@jasonfoo8651
9 ай бұрын
Stopping POWER and gun presence and knowing how to properly use/deploy it are 2 complete different things. He even said in the video. 6 rds. With a .38 in a doped up soldier is not doing it. Stopping power is dropping you like a sack of potatoes, like there's no more fight or flight in you and not need to restrain afterwards. Hence the word STOPPING POWER, not prevent. And if I was a deranged person that wanted to do a mass shooting, people with open carry would be the 1st people I'd go for to inflict as much damage as possible before I get killed. Concealed and training is best but we are talking about "Stopping power." Zero shots is not gun defense, thats just defense.
@Chriscovelli1
7 ай бұрын
@@jasonfoo8651 your ignoring common sense altogether. A gun fight that never happens because of vigilance and situational awareness is better than one that ended with someone either shot or dead. Then you gotta go to court. Then cops might charge you depending on the cop and the laws in the area. I bet your one of the guys who carries with a round in the chamber that NEVER gets fired! Lol. Get some common sense my friend. The best stopping power, is to never shoot if you don't need to. Duh 😂
@jasonfoo8651
7 ай бұрын
@@Chriscovelli1what are you talking about? and yes i would be that guy cuz i rather be ready than not ready concealed. I bet your the idiot that would do open carry and not have it ready and could even be taken from ya it only takes a second for anyone with malicious intent. Cuz if i was a bad guy youd be the 1st to hit before i do anything else and cause maximum damage. I rather go to court than be dead or vegetable or having to need someone to wipe your ass for you cuz your paralyzed now. The way you talk your projecting your own insecurities. Youre talking like i would shoot 1st and ask questions later. This is somebody coming right at you with split seconds to think. WTF buddy? By your standards there should never be a shooting anywhere... I think you have cum in your eyes and ears cuz You dont watch and listen to the video or read properly.
@Ratdaddy752
7 ай бұрын
That’s why I always keep a little one in the pocket!
Nice discussion by gents who know what they’re talking about. Although I did miss 7.62x39 and 30-30, both with excellent ballistics within their class.
@mikebeddingfield2144
3 жыл бұрын
Those are the go to calibers by most to i have them both and would never be with out one or the other.
@fredthegonzalo
2 жыл бұрын
I mean aren’t they both .30 caliber as well
@boomer271
Жыл бұрын
.30-30 and 7.62 by 39 have almost identical ballistics. I do not.think tht is coincidental. Neither cartridge was specifically designed for killing deer. Just saying . . .
@terryshields8996
Жыл бұрын
I a grea
@donaldstepp4850
Жыл бұрын
So many calibers they are going to skip a few. 6.5 Grendel is also a nice round
That 50 cal wont be able to stop Hank Hill when he sees what happened to those propane tanks
@camarokurt
3 жыл бұрын
"Taste the MEAT, not the HEAT!"
@1.1797
3 жыл бұрын
Bwaaaaa
@Yugetubes
3 жыл бұрын
::sip::
@brianpayne4549
3 жыл бұрын
@john seymoure no, it’s “got dang it, Bobby!”
@benvoncannon4146
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed lol
Can't get over the cow walking by while Eric runs the martini, being like "oh yeah it's a thursday I'm not worried"
@willbeattie7706
3 жыл бұрын
Great observation!
@ThinTheHerd78
3 жыл бұрын
noticed that too, but if yo watch you can see when the sound wave hits her.
@webviking
3 жыл бұрын
It's nice when you can afford to have your own place with land. Cities and urban areas have become hells.
@vidard9863
3 жыл бұрын
There are some deer who live in my shooting range. They absolutely ignore the shooting on the thousand yard range.
@rubenrodriguez1165
3 жыл бұрын
That cow just does not give a damn. It's hilarious.
I've stepped back from 6.5 Grendel to 308 due to unavailability of ammo. I have hundreds of 308 Nosler 168 match and thousands of 150 soft points. Hell, I can't see past 500 yards anyway
@nospam3409
Жыл бұрын
I'm still running my Grendel, but I don't shoot volumes out of it, and I handled for it. Farthest hit so far was a prairie dog at 600 yds 😀
@alwaysfreedom9354
Жыл бұрын
Where I hunt you will almost never see a buck 100 yards away. More like 50.
I know for a fact my grandpa has taken a deer with a 22. And you couldn't guess how many thousands of rabbits and squirrels and just about anything else you can eat. In the case of the deer it was a pretty rare encounter pretty close. He was born in 1934 and grew up on a farm in Kansas. He regularly hunted for dinner on his way home from school as a kid. Freaking mind blowing nowadays 👍
@jl123ist
Жыл бұрын
I grew up on my grandfather's farm he was born in 1938, he brought home everything with a .22 deer, turkeys, squirrels, pigs, racoons, etc... Pretty much anything they could eat. And I personally have dispatched cows that we butchered with a .22lr. With the right shot placement a .22 LR will kill any animal on the north american continent. My other grandfather on my dad's side liked to shoot does in the head with a .22short. and was very successful.
@leftistsarenotpeople
Жыл бұрын
I have put MANY eastern whitetails in the freezer with a .22lr pump gun. Back in the late 80's and early 90's CCI Stingers was the holy grail for me. I was after meat, not antlers so a fat 'ol doe would get a 32 grain hyper velocity slug to the head and... voila'.... venison for the cook stove. I've put quite a few down around the 100 yard range with that round too. And NO, I didn't then and STILL don't give a singular DAMN about people complaining about it being 'unethical' nor do I give a damn about 'da law' saying it is illegal to use such a round. My and my family's grumbling stomach trumps any worthless laws in that regard. And if situations are such that I find myself in similar circumstances... I'll do the same exact thing all over again!
@mollymcghee2220
Жыл бұрын
Next you'll tell us he was using 22 Birdshot..... 🤣🤣
@immikeurnot
Жыл бұрын
It just takes a head shot with a .22 my dude. Deer are only hard to kill for idiot Fudds who never shoot. Those same Fudds and their lack of skill is the only reason heart-lung shots are considered the standad, and why people think you need a .30-06 to kill a deer at 80 yards. Get good, make head or neck shots. Use a more reasonable caliber. If rimfires weren't illegal for deer in Texas, I'd use it in a heartbeat. As it is, I use a .223, which braindead Fudds think is not enough for whitetail, and is e an illegal for being "too small" in some states. Never failed to one shot a deer, and never had them not fall where they stand.
@AllThingsLoud_
Жыл бұрын
@@mollymcghee2220 many people have taken a deer with a .22. In older days it was quite a commonplace for everyone to own a .22 because it was cheap to shoot and could put food on the table. Every firearm has the potential to be lethal but shot placement is key
When they were talking about the wound characteristics of the 5.56 all I could think about was canoe arm from kenosha
@cerberusloyalist5038
3 жыл бұрын
he's lucky the kenosha kid took mercy and didnt give his forehead a sunroof.
@icantsaywhat
3 жыл бұрын
@ yea I’d have to agree with you on that one
@ranndomundead9112
3 жыл бұрын
@ i mean, he took out 2 pedophiles
@icantsaywhat
3 жыл бұрын
@@dannelson8556 who are you talking about being a white supremacist. I hope you aren’t talking about Kyle Rittenhouse
@Sman7290
3 жыл бұрын
He got disarmed.
The 6.5 doesn't have any advantages over the 308 untill 400 and 500 yards . Where I hunt 98 % of shots are 200 yards and under. So I'll continue to spend 3x less on my 308 shells to achieve the same results.
@jmkhenka
3 жыл бұрын
In sweden, the 6.5x55 is the cheapest of the "full power" rounds. 308 has gained popularity. But the PRS shooters are getting it back and with the 6.5 Creedmoor availability of good bullets are on the rise and thats nice. I have a 308 but its only for moose hunting. In modern 6.5x55 rifles the x55 is superiour to the creedmoor, more case capacity lets it go faster.
@James28R
3 жыл бұрын
awww a poor person, cute!
@jmkhenka
3 жыл бұрын
@Nicholas Rodriguez all rifles i see are the same 20 or 22", but then I'm mainly looking at sauer, tikka, howa etc. Custom rigs are longer but a hunter don't want to heavy riggs. The 308 is more powerful and for european hunters ranges are almost never over 100 meters. It's considered unethical to even take a shot at a moose at 150+ meters. But then we live in heavy forrester land where encounters are sub 80 meter and we mainly hunt with dogs.
@mikedavies5682
3 жыл бұрын
Nothing with that.. Where i grew up you either got medium shots or very long.. Eastern Ore. Use what makes sense for where you are..
@cptsparklfingerz9210
3 жыл бұрын
I personally dont believe all these stupid ballistic stats matter. .308 vs 6.5. 5.56 vs 5.45. Etc. All bullets kill. Use whatever you want and whatever you like. I personally am a .30-06 and 5.56 guy for rifles and for handguns, I prefer .45 and .22LR. Why? I'm used to them, I like em, and that's all that matters to me
I'm old enough to remember the term "knock-down power." Didn't live up to the hype back then.
@ericvantassell6809
Жыл бұрын
oh BS. You stand in the way of an old Chevy Caprice from the 70s(that can still run) moving at 35mph and try not to let it knock you down. What? You say "you can't hunt with a Caprice!" Also BS. Back in the mid 80s my buddy Phil got his first moose with a Caprice in Maine.
@alancranford3398
Жыл бұрын
@@ericvantassell6809"More powerful than a speeding locomotive" but you can't carry it in a coat pocket.
@monkmoto1887
Жыл бұрын
@@alancranford3398 what’s funny is what he said is basically scaled up heavy weight projectile slow velocity and guess what it achieves knockdown power. My brother got hit in the front plate with a 7.62 from fairly close range in Afghanistan when cop Margah got raided in 2010. He said it knocked him down and broke a rib. I doubt a 22lr or a .17 caliber pellet gun would do that. I doubt any pistol caliber would do that with a plate based on what I’ve seen happen to cops wearing soft armor. Same transfer of energy happens when bones are struck vs soft tissue where you still get more hydrostatic shock, which is important if you’re trying to drop something 😊
@Hornet_Legion
3 ай бұрын
A 12 gauge slug with the momentum of 100 pounds feet slams into you , you aren't going to get knocked down?
@alancranford3398
3 ай бұрын
@@ericvantassell6809 Whole lotta roadkill, I agree. On the other hand, a pistol bullet won't knock anybody down--the reaction to being shot is the observed "knock down" and Newton's Law proves it!
Fun fact, it was 38 long colt that was used to ill effect in the pacific. The 38 special was first designed to replace it and then the 45acp.
@radseven89
Жыл бұрын
Another fun fact, the Philippines fighters they were fighting against would tie their arms and legs tightly with ropes so that any gunshot wound would not bleed as much.
@RGRundeRGRound
Жыл бұрын
@@radseven89 PLUS, those little Philippines folks were almost immune to the 38 Colt... Them JMB emerged, with his 45 ACP 💖💖
@jadonlimoges1830
Жыл бұрын
@@radseven89 thats brilliant, pretourniqueting before combat lmao
@PGHPA
Жыл бұрын
@@RGRundeRGRound 38 special replaced the 38 in the Philippines, not the 45 acp.
@946towguy2
Жыл бұрын
@@PGHPA .45 Colt (SAA) revolvers had been mostly replaced in Army service by the .38LC in 1887. When the .38LC was found to be less than ideal in the Philippines, some of the old revolvers were pulled from storage and issued until the .38 special could be produced in large enough numbers.
I still miss Barry.. he was the Obi-wan of the gun world :)
@546people
3 жыл бұрын
My favorite Barryism is the “New York reload”
@kanaka118446
3 жыл бұрын
@@546people "it's hard to surround a man with a barkin' .38 in his hand..."
@Edudium
3 жыл бұрын
Worst analogy ever, but yep, I miss Barry too.
@22640cal
3 жыл бұрын
@@Edudium how?
@Edudium
3 жыл бұрын
@@22640cal I just cant see the similiraties between Barry and a space themed British gentleman. Unless you're speaking about a specific trait.
There's $300 dollars worth of ammo on that table😂
@bingledorf
3 жыл бұрын
@The Guns N Glory Show what fairytale land do you live in where ammo hasn't doubled or tripled in price over the last year???
@Smettli
3 жыл бұрын
@The Guns N Glory Show , I think you know that Inferno of Awesome was referring to store-prices, not the cost of self-produced rounds (not counting the price of the equipment you need to make bullets)
@l.a.8309
3 жыл бұрын
@Guns N' Glory Some people wouldn't know a joke even if they found it packed next to the beef jerky in their SHTF bag. It was a joke, dude.
@mr.mopedmadness3441
3 жыл бұрын
@The Guns N Glory Show you been out of the house lately? No it isnt...
@mr.mopedmadness3441
3 жыл бұрын
@Guns N' Glorythe phrase yes lol, I dont think I have... ammo site?
Mrgunsngear is one of the first places I turn to when I need reliable information. This channel, his and Yaeger's (when he was alive) are some of the best on KZread!
@williamrandolph1566
Жыл бұрын
Don't forget Paul Harrell.
@jeffjones7012
Жыл бұрын
@William Randolph he's what you might call an expert
so great to see barrys face in a new IV8888 video. rest in paradise you sweet man
357 magnum- Like blowing out a birthday candle, they didn’t even wimper. ~ Barry
@continentalgin
3 жыл бұрын
God bless Barry.
@the_weed_in_your_garden9319
3 жыл бұрын
I cant believe they didn't put it in the lineup
@exothermal.sprocket
3 жыл бұрын
Same principles apply with .357mag as what Eric was saying about the .44mag. Put it in a carbine length barrel and crazy things happen.
@the_weed_in_your_garden9319
3 жыл бұрын
@@exothermal.sprocket yes. True. I've seen ballistic tests
@exothermal.sprocket
3 жыл бұрын
@@the_weed_in_your_garden9319 .357 mag is just one of the greatest all-rounders. From snubby to carbine, it's a stellar performer.
The guy who went to Alaska in “Into the Wild” killed a moose with a .22 rifle, obviously multiple shots. But he was an amateur and the moose rotted before he could clean and eat it, and he died eating poisonous plants.
@JeepCherokeeful
3 жыл бұрын
Funny how one crazy guy resulted in so many deaths, besides that moose.
@OldSchoolParatrooper
3 жыл бұрын
@@JeepCherokeeful who else died because of him?
@JeepCherokeeful
3 жыл бұрын
@@OldSchoolParatrooper all the folks drowning in the river on their way to or from the bus where he died.
@peterolsen269
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah... let's not choose our equipment based on the previous behavior of imbalanced personalities, whom also died of natural causes; namely the Darwin Award. Choosing the right firearm/bullet platform for the task is all about avoiding this award.
@RockyMountainWest13
3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure he shot it like over 20 times and had a hell of a time killing it
This was a really cool video to watch and see two different very intelligent guys do a video like this. Bravo guys, excellent content!! 👍👍
In WWII one of my relatives used the ultimate in stopping power calibers and I was disappointed that you didn't cover it. It made the 30-06 as fired from a Garand seem like a pipsqueak by comparison. I'm looking forward to you covering his caliber, the 16" battleship shell...
@MrGsteele
Жыл бұрын
Great - shoot a bull moose and you have enough meat left for one meatball. A Swedish meatball. With lots of hamburger helper mixed in. OK, all hamburger helper . . .
@victorowens9150
Жыл бұрын
@@MrGsteeleI call that rapid game processing.😊
@nickc7320
8 ай бұрын
But it has low capacity before a reload haha😅
One of my favorites is Clint Smith of Thunder Ranch. " If it will go through a car, not dent it. It will go through you".
🇺🇸 Do you want stopping power or magazine capacity? Me: Yes
@Menaceblue3
3 жыл бұрын
Stopping power is good Bullet Capacity is good Having both, double plus good!
@BoogalooBoy
3 жыл бұрын
10mm double stacks work with both of those things.
@continentalgin
3 жыл бұрын
Shot placement is good.
@tommyinge81
3 жыл бұрын
@@continentalgin Good point... I think that's very important. Often forgotten.
@hotsausekidhotsausekid
3 жыл бұрын
Does a origin 12 work
Re: 22lr,, I worked ER when in college in Knoxville, tn.. for 3 yrs!! the only dead GSW's were from 22lr. (I was involved in a culling operation once over 20yrs ago,, 22 mag "culled" close to 30 deer in 2 weeks, with only 1 lost animal!)
Stopping power is a misleading term because of all the variables in play. You hit the nail on the head regarding shot placement and is all important. That being said pistol calibers vs rifle vs shotgun are altogether different animals. The hydrostatic tissue damage of super sonic rounds far out perform pistol rounds all things equal.
As a newer gun owner soaking up as much as I can over the last 7 years, I enjoy these types of videos.
@vwtdi1579
3 жыл бұрын
This video is super focused on the math & accuracy dynamics of calibers, but find what you can on gel ballistics. I’m kind of disappointed they didn’t discuss 300 BLK, because it’s a big bullet but has the same casing as a 556. It’s a little slower, but it is bigger so its speed at
@northernninety7
3 жыл бұрын
7 years is not new.
@Kmurray9244
3 жыл бұрын
@@northernninety7 it is for non-gun nuts... Most people, believe it or not, actually don't live, breathe, eat and shit firearms like many of us do🤣😂... A new but cautious and intellectual type may even take half that 7 years to decide IF they should buy and what they should buy.. I've see this phenomenon in person.. despite my encouraging 🤣
@t-bfr45-70
3 жыл бұрын
As a new gunner you need get your self a magnum research bfr.
@northernninety7
3 жыл бұрын
@@t-bfr45-70 How could you recommend that gun to a new gun owner?
Just want to point out they were not using 38 special in the philipines they were using 38 colt.
@Colt-tf6xf
3 жыл бұрын
Big difference!
@boomerisadog3899
3 жыл бұрын
38 special is roughly equivalent to 9mm. It's an effective cartridge, especially out of a decent size barrel.
@Colt-tf6xf
3 жыл бұрын
@@boomerisadog3899 the .38 Colt is mor
@spartan92296
3 жыл бұрын
@@Colt-tf6xf 38 smith and wesson/38/200(british designation) only really got effective when you paired them with 200 gr LRN bullets which had a tendency to act like dumbdumb or hollow points in terms of expansion. That being said none of the 38 Smith and wesson loadings got above 1000 fps in my findings.
@exothermal.sprocket
3 жыл бұрын
@@boomerisadog3899 In many factory rounds, yes. When optimized per potential, 38 special outclasses 9mm in all variants.
Shot placement is everything
Glad to see you guys working together. Great show! 😎
the 30-30 is an underrated round imo. the energy and wound cavity that it produces are very impressive.
@edwardlee3571
3 жыл бұрын
That’s why it’s been around so long and even to this day is one of the go-to’s for deer for people, who are still shooting with the same gun their great great grandfather was using 100 years ago to take deer. Not to mention it’s relatively cheap and sometimes still left on the shelf after the covidiots come to swipe the ammo shelves clean.
@Dinitroflurbenzol
3 жыл бұрын
@@edwardlee3571 same here with 7.92×57
@ZEEKUPP
Жыл бұрын
I saw a show where a guy took a bison with a lever action 30-30.
@henryofskalitz2228
Жыл бұрын
God bless 8mm mauser and 30-06
@shaadydog1
Жыл бұрын
@@henryofskalitz2228 and 8mm-06 and 35 Whelen ;)
The 6,5x55 was adopted in 1893, the Swedes went with the Mauser 94 and later 96 and the Norweigans with the Krag. I love that round and it's cheap to around here.
@exothermal.sprocket
3 жыл бұрын
260 Remington, 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5x55 Swede are all very closely matched in performance in factory loads, the real difference gets to be in the handloading, and extreme long range stuff. Moving up, go with a 6.5 PRC for heavier game using tougher bullets. Stepping up more, the barrel life is going to fall off quick (as with any over-bore in a given caliber).
A co-worker's hubby proved that a .22 will stop you if you hold it to your head. He could have simply read the FBI report instead. Placement is more important than size, although his placement was excellent!
@BaconSlayer69
Жыл бұрын
If you ever been in a gunfight shot placement goes out the window the target is moving all over the place stopping power is important
22TCM9R Oh my gosh, sounds like a rifle coming out a 4.5 inch barrel. Love it.
Love seeing Mrgunsngear on your videos. Definitely one of the most respected, trusted, and knowledgeable patriots in the firearms community.
Mike is great. I'm glad you got him on
@redneckninja2539
3 жыл бұрын
2 likes for your name if I could
.22 is an extremely efficient round, lots of deer, hogs, turkeys, squirrels, snakes, rabbits, etc. etc. Absolutely no doubts.
@voodooreptiles3553
Жыл бұрын
Deer and hogs with a .22? Ya you wish.
@manbunmyname5866
Жыл бұрын
@@voodooreptiles3553 Close range and accuracy, no wishes needed.
@voodooreptiles3553
Жыл бұрын
@@manbunmyname5866 You mean stupid. And shameful. If you shoot deer like this you are a shameful peace of shit. And hogs are hard to killl also so ya.
I previously owned some of those on your list, my favorite was the RUGER PCC model 19100, very fun and accurate pistol and it was actually created for the police. Very sturdy, very well made.
“If you have the most powerful Cartridge in the world but If it grazes the target...” Laughs in HE 105 mm
@markcrider7550
3 жыл бұрын
11c here 120mm I couldn’t agree more
@kbbacon
3 жыл бұрын
@@markcrider7550 4.2 ain't too bad, either. Me, I carried an M203 and had an M2 on My 113. 63B Motor Sergeant.
@vossman5
3 жыл бұрын
50bmg doesn't have to hit the target to kill, the concussion/vacuum from the airwave causes damage as well
@kbbacon
3 жыл бұрын
@@vossman5 A lot of gun experts don't believe that, but I have bagged many rabbits without hitting them. You shoot between their ears and the shock wave takes them out (22 long rifle).
@dobber43
3 жыл бұрын
@@kbbacon it just doesn't work that way if it did the bullet wouldn't make it very far. The point of the bullet is to slip thru the air as unaffected by it as possible
When we were allowed to own weapons in the UK my favorite personal rifle was a Ruger No#2 45/70 for Deer I used a BSA .270. My hand gun of choice on a 25 meter range was a Beretta 92f compact short 9mm, but for fun I liked the Webley 455 revolver.
@tombo6003
Жыл бұрын
Sorry your not Allowed an opinion ,you aren't Allowed.
As someone that survived three deadly encounters during my career I agree that “stopping power” is a myth. In one instance an armed robbery suspect continued fighting even after I put four center mass shots into him w/my issued thirty-eight revolver.
@mattparish4451
Жыл бұрын
Adrenaline. I'm sure he died shortly after.
@celtiberian
11 ай бұрын
@@mattparish4451 He certainly died, but he wasn't stopped by that bullets. This is the main issue.
@davidhoffman6980
11 ай бұрын
It sounds like your 38 special didn't have enough stopping power.
@themuckler8176
11 ай бұрын
Expecting a .38 to stop someone 😂
@SkrappyMFdoo
10 ай бұрын
Sorry but I've never heard anyone speak about a .38 being a big stopping power caliber. Maybe they did in the prohibition days 🤷♂️
Thw BMG is ALMOST exactly a scaled up 1.5X version of the 30.06. The exception being the base diameter. It's about 1.65X the base diameter if the 06 because JM Browning (in his wisdom) chose for a more tapered case because he knew this would be almost exclusively used in heavy machine guns. Just a little insight into the mind of a genius right there!
Stopping power: sometimes nuking it from orbit is the only way to be sure.
@black07panth3rr9
3 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah, I understood that reference
@dbmail545
3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that no more has been done with kinetic weapons from orbit. Maybe that is still too secret. We still don't know what that unmanned orbiter is doing.
@zergtoss1
3 жыл бұрын
dbmail545 too expensive to get mass up there
@jackbachelor5888
3 жыл бұрын
You have to understand, this is an expensive facility.
@ryedc8674
3 жыл бұрын
Game over, man!
Worried about reminding Eric of the cheytac rounds, glad he caught it
When he said that .50 is a scaled up .06 my mind went immediately to "lets put it in a BAR"
@420haxx
3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Browning would have done that if it were possible, instead he made the M2.
@caleguenther8947
3 жыл бұрын
@@420haxx 50-110 couldn't handle smokeless cartridges back then and now we have rifles that can handle it. Im sure with today's manufacturing and material quality it could be achievable.
Thank you for the video and than you for having Mrgunsgear on. Thank you for the instructional gun cleaning videos both of you have produced
I'm pretty sure I started drooling at the mention of a future video on the 408 Cheytac.
@614XJ
3 жыл бұрын
They mention that in this video!? YES!! I’ve been waiting years for more info on the .408 cheytac. It’s incredible. I’ll purchase the M200 next year only $12k!
Great information guys, nice seeing the old clip of Barry, thanks for improving our education. Keep up the Good Work down there guys.
The 45 ACP was developed partly because of the experiences you mentioned in the Philippine Insurrection. But it was not used there. The Insurrection is usually defined as ending in 1902. The Army began to reissue .45 colt revolvers in the Philippines, but everyone who could get one carried a 12 gauge shotgun. I once read the published diary of a young officer who went there. His father gave him a 12 gauge (the 1897 Browning design) and told him to carry it everywhere. He did. Only a few hundred were issued, but they were available to soldiers and anyone else directly as private purchases for $25, which is about $1,000 today.
Thank you Flight Control….always good to keep your wad tight.
Good on you including Barry in the vid I miss that old man
The joy and sadness I experienced when Ruger purchased Marlin was hard to stomach. Ruger will make wonderful lever action rifles but it tells the fate of the Deerfield/44 Carbine.
It's been years but, I remember reading a book years ago talking about what was the best cal for deer... the Author said that a .22 would kill deer but, and also you could use a 30--30 for elk , Moose, and caribou...but, he said it was not ethical basically he said shot placement was the critical point. .22 behind the ear on the deer and same for the 30--30 on the larger animals....
I never doubted that you were a good ol' southern boy but after hearing "Uncle Jasper" you're the real deal. 😆 Love your content brother! 👊🏼💙💫🙏🇺🇲💯👈🏼
The bromance is strong with these 2
@BoogalooBoy
3 жыл бұрын
Always have been.
@jeremyturner9067
3 жыл бұрын
Summer lovin' had me a blast .
"That's king of the hill, there." Shows him shooting propane tanks. "Dang it, Boomhower!"
@mikeronga1497
3 жыл бұрын
Eric when someone shoots a propane tank they should get real close, so we can thin the herd, sorry ya just can't fix stupid.
I think Hornady has really reached the pinnacle of 9mm performance with their Critical Duty +P 135g flexlock. It’s amazing the energy it delivers to targets, and it expands really well, while also having some decent barrier penetration. If you’ve got a full-size handgun in 9mm capable of +P, I don’t think there’s a better option. I’d love to see hornady come up with a similar 150g projectile for PCCs
@thorman944
Жыл бұрын
Hornady Critical Duty/Critical Defense or Federal HST (non +P) live in my daily carry .380 & 9mm subcompact guns. Federal HST +P live in my 'home defense' and 'winter carry/dangerous environment' full-size guns.
@AncientMorbidity1991
Жыл бұрын
I agree with that. The Critical Duty 124g +p load is my favorite carry ammo!
@phuckyou6314
8 ай бұрын
Civil Defense by Liberty Ammunition has entered the chat
Great video. I love the fact that both Barret and S&W developed “smaller” caliber versions of the .50 caliber firearms as a middle finger to California that in many ways turned out to actually be better than the original.
So what your really trying to say is, there’s no free lunch in physics...
@AM-hf9kk
3 жыл бұрын
TANSTAAFL
@MrT13
3 жыл бұрын
@@AM-hf9kk lol yes but not in the let’s all move to stupidfornia become socialist and take over the country and make it flowers and rainbows if we all work together. More like the more you feel it, what you hit feels it... there’s no substitute for cubic inches.
Holy shit I thought I knew about firearms and ammo before I found your channel
On the farm, steers are routinely dispatched with a 22 LR rifle. Behind the ear, angled forward. Hundreds dropped instantly. Shot placement.
@prof.snopes6239
Жыл бұрын
There's a video of a farmer in Australia who uses 22lr on his cattle
308 may be old and a bit wonky, but I still love it. It's a fun caliber to use as those 1000 meter shots are a bit more challenging, not a lot of recoil either.
@justinriley8651
Жыл бұрын
why is the .308 wonky? your wonky
Eric, you’re a great dude. One of my favorite people. The only person I know of who rocks a camo Fender hat on a daily (besides myself.)
.357 Magnum should DEFINITELY have been part of that discussion.
@xwhels
3 жыл бұрын
And 7.62
@KRGruner
3 жыл бұрын
@@xwhels They did cover 7.62x51 (.308). They missed 7.62x39, though, which is a very common round.
@Dinitroflurbenzol
3 жыл бұрын
@@xwhels 7.92×57
@johnathanblackwell9960
3 жыл бұрын
@@Dinitroflurbenzol Aka 8mm mauser.
@davidmuir7711
3 жыл бұрын
Nothing better to send lead screaming down the hallway.
Thank you for discussing this especially in a civilian context. Folks like us know that the mental determination to survive and shooting skills of the individual are key. I will take a 22LR shooting supersonic in a close up scrap . I love my 1911s but these are straight battle guns for combat operations.
I did learn a bunch,... lots of those rounds I've never heard spoken much about. Thanks guys!
Uncle Jasper also has 4 DWIs and huffed paint in high school.
I have viewed both of your videos. I subscribed to both of your channels today after seeing your work on this together. thank you from one veteran to another! This video was very educational as well. Thank you, brothers!
That grin you two gave on that super big bore caliber was plain wicked! Shameless! 😂
Well one more thing that makes a key difference...is bullets effect every person individually, because if they're not registering the traumatic shock of each bullet striking them they don't go down until you hit enough vitals to bring them down physically
Kudos to the Ruger .44 Magnum "Deerfield", carbine rifle. Best heavy cover, deer hunting rifle, ever made! Wish I could find one! Great collaboration video, guys!
@jackdundon2261
Жыл бұрын
Gun broker.... my dad sold mine 20 years ago, because the old local gunsmith said the trigger guard would eventually break... making the gun useless.
It wasn't 38 special used in the philippines that under performed it was 38 long Colt
@JacobVahrSvenningsen
3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking something like that 6 rounds of 38 special should take most man or small beast down
@oldschoolcop8568
3 жыл бұрын
@bali song Your ignorant statement proves your an internet commando with 0 experienced.
@oldschoolcop8568
3 жыл бұрын
Your right they used 38 long Colt not 38 S&W Special in a efficient load.
@evenskyzhekovic2538
3 жыл бұрын
They did used .38 pretty well against the northern and middle part of the Philippines but when they reached the south they needed to waste full load just to take down one Juramentado. Those Berserkers are the main reason for the concept of "stopping power" and the usage of the .45
Ruger Deerfield (44 Carbine) my first deer rifle. My dad traded it in on a Remington 700 BDL in 30-06 and in November I bought another Ruger Deerfield 44 Carbine (both have the tube magazine). GREAT little brush gun!
Just got a Barrett 416 model 99. The Barrett 416 is like a 6.5 Creedmore. It’s a neck down 50 bmg just like 6.5 Creedmore is a necked down .308 Better ballistics, less effected by wind, flatter shooting at a longer distance with lighter projectile at 3100 ft per sec.
We love what you guys do for the 2a community! Been watching you guys since I was 15 I’m 22 now😂🇺🇸
@GeneralJackRipper
Жыл бұрын
When you talk about it like it's a social club you tacitly acknowledge the ability to regulate and restrict, just like any other social club. It's not a 'community' it's a constitutional right, and our rights are given to us by god not some earthly authority.
@lambsauce5312
Жыл бұрын
@@GeneralJackRipper there are car people, even though most people have driven cars, you're so oblivious to any logic because you want to make a point
@lambsauce5312
Жыл бұрын
i kind of wanna make fun of your name, go change your name or get it changed by getting married or something
@dick-parker
Жыл бұрын
@@lambsauce5312 oh my real name is Richard, that’s just what my friends call me because dick was a old school nickname for Richard
Great content mate. MGnG is such a great guy as is Eric. Two great 2A advocates in one place. Cheers. PS: 10mm is "America's Heavy Hitter"...
@joeridehaeck7677
3 жыл бұрын
Still funny they used a metric name
@mikestanley9176
3 жыл бұрын
And the .500 S&W says..Hold my beer,
I saw my grandfather plink off quail with a 22. He would hear one, call them in, and... Don't discount the abilities of those who grew up using 22s as a means of putting food on the table.
@monkmoto1887
Жыл бұрын
A quail and a boar are about the same size right?
@frankmorris7751
Жыл бұрын
@@monkmoto1887 I'm not sure. Try going boar hunting with a 22 and let me know how that goes.
Learned on pellet rifles. They taught me alot. Now i want to move up. I'm not shooting crazy far Max about a foot ball field. So 22 and 380 is more than enough for my uses. I want the 380 security for carry.
15:32 "Rimmed, for the extractor's pleasure" -Dugan Ashley
@ek8710
3 жыл бұрын
Man I miss him, he went a bit mental and deleted his channel boogereater last I heard
.22 magnum head shots on deer is a one-shot deal.......so I've been told.
@joshuagibson2520
3 жыл бұрын
Can verify. It def is.
@barricksspecial
3 жыл бұрын
So I've been told too 🤣🙊
@wyldebill7248
3 жыл бұрын
Could be wrong but isn’t 22 mag legal for deer in Maine?
@desertrainfrog1691
3 жыл бұрын
@@wyldebill7248 Isn't the rule usually anything above .22 caliber?
@wyldebill7248
3 жыл бұрын
@@desertrainfrog1691 not sure honestly was hoping someone would chime in. Only been to Maine once but thought I heard 22wmr was legal. Guess I could google it 😁
My older brother was 22 years older than me. He had a 5mm magnum, it was known as his summer deer rifle. It wasn't down south but it was out in the boonies.
As to the .22lr.. Shot placement is key. If you enter on KZread.22lr vs Hog. There is a post of a man who shoots a HUGE hog behind the eye and below the ear and drops the hog instantly with the.22lr and he was using standard velocity ammunition and a rather inexpensive rifle!
Just purchased a Henry Big Boy tube feed 44 mag it's sweet!
@eric1138
3 жыл бұрын
44Mag is my favorite cartridge. Effective and easy to reload.
@614XJ
3 жыл бұрын
Badass man! Enjoy it! I’d love to get a 44 and 45 LC one
@oldscratch3535
3 жыл бұрын
If you hand load that thing will be a banger. You can really push the 44 mag in a rifle action.
@gregfox06
3 жыл бұрын
i have the ruger 77/44, got it 2 years ago. my hunting buddies son dropped a deer about 80yds out with it last year. his first deer. that Henry Big Boy is a nice rifle!!
@christoherhenninger6401
3 жыл бұрын
@@oldscratch3535 I'd like to attain that knowledge someday and soon!
Barry! He looked like such a badass blasting away with the Thompson.
I used to work for Maine fish and wildlife. I saw it first hand and still tell people today. The amount of moose poached with a 22lr was astounding, considering. You can kill most things with a 22lr that you could with a 9mm. It matters where you hit it and how far away.
@monkmoto1887
Жыл бұрын
Yeah right but will it “stop” a charging moose? Can it break its leg like a high power rifle? Interesting
@qaszim2012
Жыл бұрын
@@monkmoto1887?? I'm guessing his answer would be yes. If you hit it in the right place. 🤦♂️ They kinda stated that In there comment. Don't matter how much charging it's doing. You cut of its ability to use it's synapses and it's game over. Granted it would be harder. But not impossible.
My dad still hunts with his Ruger 44 mag carbine semi auto. Every single kill was near instant.
Great info....DRINK WATER was the silent info
@camarokurt
3 жыл бұрын
I had to check the comments just to see what was up with the water!
A guy doped up on opium is not going to be running at you with a machete 😂. He’s going to be passed out on the floor.
@ethanking4954
3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@daddymilkchocolate4653
3 жыл бұрын
The Philippines didn't use opium most used booze an another drug cranked up that's why the 45 1911 was made. And it will stop a man cold that's what it was made for. It does what's it reputation has said it will do for over 100 years. Now if your a pussy go to 9mm not as good, won't cut anybody slack. But not a man stopper. Also most competition shoots are 45. There are 9 mm shoots but rare
@quincygillespie5950
3 жыл бұрын
Lmao 😂😂😂
@joshuadoss4726
2 жыл бұрын
@@daddymilkchocolate4653 ummm....9mm, .40 s&w, .45 acp all require more than one shot
Hey Eric, I noticed that your T shirt has a pocket on it. I wear the same kind. The pocket helps me put my shirt on the right way.
@jamesjerome7227
Жыл бұрын
In NY using a .22 for deer is illegal
@christopherc9017
Жыл бұрын
@@jamesjerome7227 alabama too. should be illegal every state
Middle Tennessee is home to many engineers. Ronnie had all the talent nearby. The first factory is very small. Stanley Benz made Barrett what it is. Lived here my whole life. Grew up in a gun store.
I think 12 gauge is just the most satisfying ammo to look at, and that’s why it’s the most popular 😂
Damn it took me back seeing that footage of Barry. Rest in peace.
@nathanholtzman9027
3 жыл бұрын
What happened to barry??
@MylesKillis
3 жыл бұрын
@@nathanholtzman9027 he died from a heart attack
The way I view "stopping power" is that the highest velocity and most expansion you get enough penetration to comfortably hit the vitals, and get most of your expansion in the vitals not past them, is ideal. For example I've never had a deer take a step with a 100 grain from a 257 weatherby. I've never had one not run from a 45-70. Muzzle energy is a great metric for comparing cartridges within the same "classes" that I'm kind of making up here. Low velocity like normal handguns up to big slow stuff like 45-70 up to around 2000fps. Mid velocity like older rifle cartridges with shoulders like a 30-30 for example but in general up to about 2700fps. And high velocity cartridges above that it's a big category you have what are now standard rifle cartridges like 308 and 5.56 up to hotter stuff like the weatherby magnums or modern long range cartridges. Energy is great for comparing within these classes but basically useless comparing across classes. For example muzzle energy of a 257 weatherby with a 100 grain bullet is about 2850 ft/lbs, and an original 45-70 black powder load with a 405 grain at roughly 1200fps is only about 1295 ft/lbs. I absolutely would not shoot a bison with a 257 weatherby and wouldn't hesitate to shoot one with a black powder 45-70 load.
When it comes down to feeding yourself and family what others feel about something goes out the window. Got my kids a 10 22 to learn fundamentals and learn the respect of firearms and to have them learn there is nothing to fear if you treat the weapon with the respect and safety they deserve
Great video guys. For stopping power, if I could only have one gun, it would be the semi auto 12 gauge with 00. In a hand gun I would go for the .357 Sig with 125 GR. HP. The rifle is a tough choice, but if I could only have one and food was a priority, I would choose the .444 Marlin. Inside 150 yards it will take any North American game, from deer to brown bear. For long range at 500+ yards, I really like the .338 Lapua. Thank you again for the great video!
@michaelbridges1370
Жыл бұрын
Those are good choices. But if I was carrying the 357 mag for hunting used it would be Ruger redhawk. With 158 gr hp or bear country. Hard cast. In town used. The. Combination you are talking about with the sig is great and nothing does what a good. Shotgun does. With 00 or slugs. And myself I never tryed the 444 Marlin lever action. I my own. Thinking. It would proforma. Inside 150 a little less than. 45-70 lever gun
@BaconSlayer69
Жыл бұрын
Be smart with the rifle choose a common caliber I’d say .308 is a master of none but can get the job done for most situations it’s effective out to 1km (1000 meters) and at that range it’s still got the kinetic energy to kill / put shit down on the ground
I didn't know Johnny Sins was into guns.
@jets8991
3 жыл бұрын
If anyone knows about stopping power
@deviledegg8266
3 жыл бұрын
I see we are men of culture. Good day brethren
@tidefanyankee2428
3 жыл бұрын
OUCH
@crites123456789
3 жыл бұрын
Lmao! Hilarious. I know one thing he lost a lot of electrolytes. Drinking water like a fish
@Ezekiel903
3 жыл бұрын
why do these myths always arise in the usa? The wound channel is important, i never hear from a case in which the European cops where not able to stop a men, and they us all 9mm!!!
Expansion doesn't really do much in the way of stopping someone. It's more so it won't over penetrate. CNS hits are the only hits worth getting, and they're actually much more likely to happen with FMJ since they'll punch a hole right through someone and are more likely to go through the spinal column.
It's kind of like throwing rocks at each other when we were in grade school. The smaller the rock, the faster you had to throw it to get results. But when some kid got mad and picked up a big one, it was game over.😆