Would you consider doing a long format video of Carl's building process? I'd assume it's mostly stitching together the shorts, but maybe also any additional content which didn't find it's way into the shorts originally?

@EdisonMotors

Жыл бұрын

That’s a good idea actually

@stauker.1960

Жыл бұрын

I want to watch this

@billhill4479

Жыл бұрын

Yep. l'd like to see how you did the batteries ( Tesla ? ) and how you do the battery to domestic ( house ) power supply connection. That would be great.

@tweezerjam

Жыл бұрын

Great idea

@planem1916

Жыл бұрын

I wanna watch too!

I’m REALLY interested in this platform. It’s always been a dream of mine to rebuild my grandpa’s old bubblenose Pete and I’m liking this idea a lot

@JonathanChadburn

Жыл бұрын

Glad to see you looking at what the future could be!

@jasonmichaeljimenez

Жыл бұрын

Casey is the man. Invite him for a visit.

@fixednstoned861

Жыл бұрын

Didn’t expect to see you here Casey!Although, it does kinda make sense you’d be here 😉

@ericvansteen

9 ай бұрын

Very stoked to see you here on this page. I watched your video where you visited your Grandparents place and right away thought about all those cool old trucks being back on the road. Could also get the pink fender re-powered!

I really can't wait to see the next truck with the full E-axes in place. personally, I like the batteries external; it makes them easier to access and remove with only a small shop hoist if need be. swapping them forward would be good for sure. I honestly LOVE the design philosophy of having all the components as separate modules built around a centralized frame. it makes everything so accessible and easy to repair, maintain, and inspect.

Truck is looking nice, thanks for the update. It could use dual plug ins. One on each side. That way you can hook up on either side, or hook the truck to 2 chargers at once. Ya know like a real truck fills up.

@planem1916

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing and I imagine it wouldn't be difficult or expensive to do.

@capnskiddies

Жыл бұрын

And it would piss off more Karens

@marsrover001

Жыл бұрын

Isolating 2 AC charge plugs is easy. Making two DCFC stations feed into one vehicle is very hard. Possibly goes against the CCS design requirements.

@benjaminkriebel3569

Жыл бұрын

this is amazing

@ianpaterson6111

11 ай бұрын

Maybe set up switches so each side can be disconnected from the other side and every thing else and charged separately simultaneously

As a heavy duty mechanic I love this. I work at a refuse fleet shop. We had a Mack electric demo and it only could run half the day with range and carry half the weight of our cng and diesel trucks because of the added weight. I would love to see the industry switch to this concept it's the right stepping stone of being more eco friendly than demanding full electric when the tech can compete right now love the channel!

@jimmystaples8596

Жыл бұрын

I also work on trash trucks. We often get trucks at the end of the day that have to do parked regens. Drivers park the truck and start the regen then we have to go shut it off once it is done. I often think of how a diesel electric could just run a regen whenever it wanted to. Conventional trucks can't regen in stop and go conditions but the diesel electric ones could. I used to drive school buses and they had the same problem. Sometimes all they needed to fix the problems with the exhaust was a good drive on the highway for 30 minutes. A diesel electric bus could handle that problem so much better plus having the range of a diesel with the added MPG of electric drive.

@toddmarshall7573

Жыл бұрын

I read somewhere that trash trucks are the perfect (and almost only) application where gas turbine/battery/electric works...and there for some reason it works splendidly. Has something to do with the repeated starting/stopping of the use case.

@jaysonsears8686

Жыл бұрын

@@toddmarshall7573 that's why the electric truck was semi okay because during the route the truck was perfect stop and go wasn't using hardly any battery for the route itself especially with regenerative braking being utilized well. The issue was driving to and from route killed so much battery due to the weight of truck and allowable space for batteries that it was very non practical for our fleet but a hybrid would solve both problems

@toddmarshall7573

Жыл бұрын

@@jaysonsears8686 It's the Prius model. As I said, there's an article out there somewhere about it working with a gas turbine. Diesel would use same principle and work better at sea level. Regenerative braking would have almost no effect. It's all about being at the optimal point on the power curve for the ICE for efficiency.

@Mathewwoods178

Жыл бұрын

I’m in the honest opinion we watched this man change the trucking industry completely

I love the longer form videos. Beautiful truck

@EdisonMotors

Жыл бұрын

We’ll try and do more of them, we’re trying to grow our KZread page to the point we can hire Theron as a full time video guy to make more

It really is amazing getting to see this insight into how y'all have progressed and learned. So much of this stuff is the sort of thing a big company would have spent millions on paying engineers to figure out before the first weld was made, but y'all just sent it! And learned way faster and easier instead! I really look forward to seeing how it progress, and I can't wait to see the day one of y'all's trucks is hauling a full load. (If you get to piss of some Karen's at a fast charger again, we'd love to see a vid of it!)

Having worked for an EV manufacturer as an engineer, NVH stuff is a PAIN in electrics. The tiniest squeak is heard. Road noise from tires was even an issue. I love this truck. Made to haul and will haul well! Growing up in Oregon I love seeing the log trucks cruising down the forest roads.

Something to consider since you’re putting batteries upfront is having the whole cab easily removable or tilt up, similar cab to what firetrucks have

As a fellow Canadian and a Kenworth tech, I love this. I've LEARNT a lot lol. Keep it up awesome work.

Back in the late 80's International and Eaton Yale did a proto type with a DT466 running a generator to power an electric motor hooked up to the rear axle diff.Remember seeing this deal at the truck show at the Tradex.This deal was on a 5 ton chassis.

@davidfleishman2275

10 ай бұрын

@@brianb-p6586 Currently the only way for a battery powered truck to run coast to coast is to have a small diesel generator on board to recharge the batteries during driver breaks.Until a full nationwide charge system is in place.

Everytime I watch the long videos I stop at the end and can't believe it's been 10 minutes! So packed with info and details it just flows! Keep it up! Can't wait to see everything come together (and the big names try and copy your idea in an overly complex way)

@d1oftwins

Жыл бұрын

Right?! It felt like 5 minutes max but KZread is tricking me and says it was 10 minutes long.

I try to watch and like every KZread video. I don't have any other way of supporting but I want to see you guys succeed.

Love these types of videos. Around 2011 I was in college and drew up an idea I had for a sports car that used a hybrid setup that is insanely similar to what you guys are using. It blows my mind how similar things were, and how well they seem to work for you. Thanks for sharing these videos, I never became an engineer but I do build hybrid projects in my spare time so these types of videos are great for me and my limited budget

I really love your matter of fact presentation and 'how hard could it be' attitude! Thank you for being so generous about the learning experience. These videos are great fun to watch and makes one feel optimistic about the future.

Keep it going. Just keep growing. You will eventually be the supplier to all the older trucks.

A prototype like this is worth millions in data and proof of concept. A job very well done. ❤ from maple ridge bc

This is great and I'm really digging the whole concept. The whole taking a less then ideal proof of concept and then applying lessons learned is how any good company/engineer does product development. Again, really cool to hear what didn't work and that there's a plan to address those things.

Congratulations. Well done. I have been ranting for years to get plug in hybrid trucks with drive axles on the trailer. I’m so proud of you guys.

Did I really just come across a company that makes electric trucks that are just supposed to work and actually exist? With an actual engineering prototype, real relevant issues and no promises of unrealistic sci-fi tech in fancy renderings? Always glad to see reasonable people working on electric vehicles

I would love working for you! I used to be a field service tech for certain industrial machines. I dealt with VFDs and induction motors having problems a lot. So many issues that existed before I started there, so many opportunities to do something I love doing. Too bad I'm so far away...

Edison Motors: Pissing off Karens at Supercharging stations. I love it. This is so cool to watch y'alls progress!

Can't wait to see the second truck with the E axles. These are sweet builds. Love the concepts. Also props to you for having the balls to take this on.

I mean this whole thing was a success and that’s with things mocked up to make sure everything works and you guys did great. 50-60% increase in fuel economy is wonderful. The thing about the generator is it will last a lot longer because it’s operating at one specifically set rpm so that saves a bunch in engine maintenance and down time. You guys are awesome!

I'd put the charger plug near a front corner. Then charge points that are designed for driving nose-in will also work.

This is the kind of engineering that we haven’t seen in years. Think, build, try, rejigger, rebuild. Complete. Rebuild. Not everything needs to be computer generated and tried through hundreds of “tests”. Keep up the good work! Don’t tell Tesla, but your ahead of them.

I'm loving the increased content on KZread. Keeping up with the videos with great interest!

Awesome job! We’re pulling for ya!

Looking forward to see the application of everything you learnt! Mad respect for you guys 🤘

This is a great channel! I love your company!

First off i think its awesome what your doing im not in trucking my dad was back in the 90's and i always wondered why not diesel/electric so to see you guys making it happen its a really great thing .ps you should consider putting the charge port on both sides just for that ease of use unless it's to costly

That beautiful old truck of your’, in it’s function, is called a “mule” in the motor industry I worked at i.e. using an existing vehicle to prove out concepts and ideas. Very nice and amusing presentation.

Great job getting a prototype together and making it run. So many companies spend decades trying to be perfect on the first try. It's way faster and cheaper to slap something together and find out what you don't know right now. Surprised the Telsa motor doesn't have an easy way to set a phase-current or torque limit. Could always replace the bearing and output shaft on that side, but that's a lot of work for an Alpha prototype you know will get rebuilt or scrapped.

Perfect truck indeed Sir, I enjoy this process; I'm inspired now to start building my 1/14 tamiya globeliner rc truck now👍

Love it! This is great!!!

Thanks for making those sacrifices. Y'all guys are gonna do just fine once those eaxles get under there.

I installed a retractable female charging receptacle on my retro fitted 95 2 door Yukon. Highly recommended.

Been waiting for a video like this! Keep her up fella

My Volt has separate radiators for the gas and EV components. Another advantage with this is after hitting an animal, cracking the gas rad, the EV system could still get me home.

I really like how easy to work on it seems and hope all future models keep that in mind

Hey you should put a heat exchanger, with shut offs to engage or disengage to allow the coolants to equalize when it would be beneficial for example before a cold start on the diesel or if the batteries are a little cold.

@halmitty3800

Жыл бұрын

Or if the batteries or axles are a little hot like they would be here in Australia. I'd rather cook the Cat and use its radiator.

Love these updates. I don't use TikTok so was well behind on a ton of the info. Hope you upgrade Carl a bit once you've got enough of a supply of axles coming to be able to throw one under him without cutting into your production. P.S. Would love to see that Tesla motor thrown into an old Grizzly in place of the Cummins - just for another logger built truck to stay on the road. Used to know a guy in the Interior that had one... 20 years ago.

As a person looking to do similar on a boat soon I really enjoy following your journey

Awesome content. I'm hooked. 🍿

Great video and a great message. Let the old trucks live on again and be back to Makin money

This thing is awesome! On bended knee, make the battery packs removable so you can swap them out and charge them outside the truck. Why? Because you wouldn't have an impact driver with a built in battery. You want a swappable battery. This truck is a tool and a battery pack that can be charged outside the vehicle is key to EV's. It also makes it so the battery pack can be replaced and serviced without down time if you have a spare pack.

I’m very impressed with your trucks. I had a similar idea years ago when I was in diesel class, why couldn’t we make trucks like a locomotive, and you have done it. My one question is do you have plans for pickup version?

I friggin love these videos. I hope Edison is super successful

Sound deadening will help with insulation levels too. Especially up there.

Really loving your ambition to start your own truck brand if I was a trucker I’d buy one

Good job now you know what to and what not to do wish the big builders would do it,and the do theirs under controlled conditions

Awesome project, I live just a bit north of you. Happy to see this going on in bc. Have a look at what JCB tractor is doing, hydrogen for that Cat may be a next step for you to knock down fuel costs and pollution. Good luck with this venture it made my day to see this.

Thanks for this video alit of questions asked there 8m shocked with the weight,hope it flies for ya

You should add in some redundancy’s to increase the usability and reliability further. Things like a plug on both sides. This adds ease of use in a crowded yard and a backup to help diagnose problems. Another one is ability to have the generator directly power the motor. Doing this would help the heating issue during charging and will extend the life of the battery. It also allows the truck to run even if the battery eats it or there’s a problem with the charging system.

It looks great, and I'm excited to see the production truck when it's done. I'm also wondering, with all of this torque, what, if anything, are you guys gonna do for "traction control" when empty?

More dynamat an louder stereo. Great work 👏 👍

The fact that you piss Karens off makes this a worthwhile conversion to me! 🤣

I deeply appreciate the Edison Motors mindset of "Fuck it, ill do it myself". There is literally nothing to hate about this, y'all are paving the way to a new era of vehicles capable of bridging the gap between fossil and renewable fuels.

You otto look at some diesel/Electric train locomotive's, they've already tackled a lot of the issues your finding. They run the air compressor and cooling fan in the same assembly on some and exhaust hot air up instead of across and down under. They've even put separate cooling fans on the dynamic braking heat disapaters up on top.

Dad is so proud of his son

Your new truck is amazing, but I have to admit, nothing looks as cool as Carl, they just knew how to make a nice looking truck back then!

Out of curiosity could the tri-drive setup be used for dump trucks? I'm not a truck driver btw. I just saw one of your shorts and liked what you guys are doing.

Can't wait for the Carl MK2 "Daryle"

#carltheloghauler lives on again for many years to come. Carl is happy i would say

I don't know why I haven't seen this yet and it may not work for you guys but the top of semi trailers is a perfect spot for solar panels I don't think it can replace the generator (which I really like) but it could bring the fuel use down even more. Maybe some day point the direction for a one ton similar to what you are doing love what you are getting done.

The quietness paradox: The quieter a car/truck is the quieter it has to be.

You boys are doing something huge! Awesome to see it brother

You did more in a few years. That most electric company did in a few decades. And all without any gouvernement or large investors. All in a little corner of canada Good fking job.

@EdisonMotors

Жыл бұрын

I’ve been saying for years that 4-5 Blue Collar workers can get more done than 40-50 silicone valley tech engineers.

@cumminsnchevy

Жыл бұрын

Silicon Valley techs lack the real word experience and put no value on keeping things simple and functional, constantly making things more difficult than they need to be

@SoloRenegade

Жыл бұрын

@@EdisonMotors As an engineer, I always prefer working for small businesses where everyone knows everyone and is fully integrated in the business as a whole. None of the stupid red tape and useless meetings. Everyone knows the overall objectives and what is going on, who is doing what. So much more efficient and cost effective.

@SoloRenegade

Жыл бұрын

@@N-M424 but what's wrong with that? people don't need cutting edge daily drivers and work trucks. they just need something that Works, that is easy to fix, that has abundant parts for repairs, etc. The LAST thing you want is an experimental technology and scarce parts from using highly specialized designs that only are on you low volume vehicle. you want parts you can go to the parts store and get. cars and trucks should not be relying on cutting edge tech if you care about sustainability. if sustainability is the goal, then the ONLY thing you should be caring about is keeping cars on the road as Long as Possible (in safe working condition). The simpler and easier to work on their are, using readily available high volume parts, the easier you're going to achieve that goal.

@SoloRenegade

Жыл бұрын

@@N-M424 this is how "startups", motivated people with work ethic and a vision, etc. work. They work Fast. it's corporations and gov encumbered by fear, red tape, approvals, permits, worrying about liability, trying to create get rich quick schemes, not valuing or taking care of their customers, etc. that can't get crap done.

Fairly new to the channel but a big fan so far! Has there been any ballpark pricing stated on what the rebuild kit would cost?

I find your trucks interesting. While going for a efficient hybrid type setup. Maybe look into a waste heat recovery system. Since your operating the engine as a generator to power the truck at mostly steady state conditions. I think a system that incorporates a boiler in the engine exhaust to turn some type of generator to further get either more charging or use it to run only the cabin items to focus power to the batteries and E-axels? Thought?

Great Video. Amazing progress you guys make in such a short timeframe. One tip for the video production though. Invest in a good lavalier mic. The sound at the moment is dragging the rest of the video down.

This is the truck I wanted to build in 1990

ive been thinking about the solar trailers, imagine you have a company with 12 trailers, you dont work on weekends, if those are hookedup and you are selling power that could be a nice income for just having them, or if your a lone trucker you could put a slight dent in your powerbill on the weekends

honestly diesel electric is so cool. It's like a freight train, but smaller. I've long been saying diesel electric was the future. For industrial use especially, sure, but I mean, it's the best of both worlds without the worst of either.

In Tesla's defense for the drive unit, when those usually go in a retrofit they just spin the tires 😄

Have you thought about the front wheel drive assist that's hydraulically driven for off road help they now make (I forgot the company name) but would be a great option for these loging trucks and use a brushless pump or drive it off the generator an just start it when needing the front wheels to help

@sheldongoossen9771

Жыл бұрын

They have talked and have an electric steering axle to put in.

Of course it screamed like a 4 yr old. It still a growing baby. Your teen is in the shop. Garentee it will in some way frustrate you to no end and give you some unexpected issues but that is part of raising something. It will all work out and be something that your proud of and that many others will be proud to have parked in their yard.

Put a bigger compressor in between the frame rails when you get the E-axles

7:16 so nice of Dan Foss. Too bad they shipped it to the wrong country.

Do you have/sell merch?😄love the progress of your trucks, cant wait to see the result😁

@EdisonMotors

Жыл бұрын

We have merch available at www.EdisonMotors.ca

I would put the charing ports in the front

I would love to use a telsa system on a lawnmower for a offroad application.

I’d love to see you put an Achates opposed piston diesel engine in one of these

R&D on the fly👍

That's pretty good.

OK so we're making changes. Well improvements. Good don't be set in stone. Question. Could you run say a Cummin's 8.3L Turbo? Or even smaller Diesel, now that you have a cooled, sealed, Generator? Less cost, and weight. Could you have attached a 2 speed rear to your truck to mesh better with the Tesla drive unit? Just askin'? Thanks for your honesty, it's refreshing in this World. WB

The tidal wave of electrification is coming. So MANY business opportunities if you are young, smart and daring.

First, love the truck

Would you consider building short wheelbase, cabover, Europe spec trucks? Would be awesome to see Edison make it over here

I am a little confused as usual, I thought you were going to put the batteries between the rails, and here you said that you were going to switch the position of the batteries in the fuel tanks outside the rails. However, as always very well presented.

@EdisonMotors

Жыл бұрын

Our production truck will have the batteries in the frame rails, if we did Carl differently we would have swapped the battery and fuel tank positions. - Theron Danger

first time i ever heard of a genset running at 1750 rpm’s. in north america we run on 60Hz 1800 rpm for a 4 pole generator 3600 for a 2 pole and 900 rpm for a 6 pole 👍

@EdisonMotors

Жыл бұрын

Ours was putting out 60 at 1750 on the load test. It could be possible that the 30 year old rpm gauge on the old CAT was off a bit though

Carl was built the same year I was. My parents always said my soundproofing was not adequate too. My weight distribution isn’t ideal either but I haven’t been as fortunate as Carl to lose weight.

Hook it to a gearbox so the motor doesnt wear the load. It looks like you need fans pumping out of boxes as well as going in. This will help.

Is it possible to have an eaxle also be liftable? I like the idea of running 4x2 empty and 6x4 loaded

@TheRoadhammer379

Жыл бұрын

You are really starting to get heavy on these trucks, I can't imagine these retrofit trucks being able to scale 40,000lbs in the trailer with the amount of weight already involved in the components. A cantilever air lift axle, like flatbeds use, you're talking another 500lbs of added components. It would be better to have an electric disconnect for one E axle, the tires would still be rolling but the one axle wouldn't be pulling voltage while empty or bobtailing.

Could have used a planetary output bolted the the end of the Tesla motor. A cheap and simple setup would have been a planetary gear reduction unit from a diesel pickup truck. 2.7:1 reduction with a 6 planet gear setup and capable of dealing with 1000 ft-lbs and relatively easy to adapt.

Motor per axle makes sense for the back but what about a motor per wheel up front? More weight forward (even if it takes a bite out of the savings you've made) and more traction too. You might be able to get away with a motor that can pivot and have only the outer CV joint.

Charger in 4 position, fronts and rears, that way even tough city parking situations work out and you dont have to struggle with positioning the truck

Question: Wouldn't make a cab-over design be better suited for logging? So you could turn much tighter and see everything? Basically what is the reason you went with a american style truck. What are the advantages of those for offroad use?

Has Edison Motors explored building a Fire Apparatus besides the amount of Water Weight it could carry, but the on board power plant.

Just use old electric train trucks and mount them to a chassis you still have to make three phase just adapte duels and frame . It will be a hell of a lot stronger, your welcome. I seen it as a gag but it worked