“live poker trainers like a raise here too” that might have gone over callers head but that made me chuckle hahah

@Phobzi

Жыл бұрын

It's over my head too. Halp!

@Phobzi

Жыл бұрын

Oh. Bort liked the raise.

@TheTree1

Жыл бұрын

This is an awesome comment by bart.

@paulmcdougald4953

Жыл бұрын

Lol he was probably just nervous, understandable tbh

@thomasmuirhead8579

Жыл бұрын

I don't think the caller got it.

You call with a small pair to set mine against players who can't find the fold button and who aren't aware of what you are trying to do. The hand analysis is that simple, imo. From that perspective, raising flop and/or turn with little to no bluffs is totally acceptable. That said, in theory fold pre. Edit: "I guess the theme of the show is don't fold sets when you're getting a price." Fantastic advice.

reasons for hosting a game here: charity games are very fun as we all just witnessed. rake is capped at $5 a hand which is the lowest around. they allow filming, rivers does not 👍🏻

"I'm gonna throw something out at you that's exactly the opposite of what you're saying" 😂

Man I love your videos they really help my game. Thanks so much Bart!

River is a snap call. I’m doing a little happy dance when LJ calls and nearly beating him into the pot. You lose some, but you felt both a whole hell of a lot.

@rondogg04

Жыл бұрын

I'd have burn marks on my wrist from the felt jamming my chips in the middle😆

@111tedward

Жыл бұрын

I totally disagree. If the two players are good players, you should be good here never. These players are obviously very bad.

@blakefredrickson6506

Жыл бұрын

I expected one Villain to show up with either AA or 66. But given the pot odds against these bad players it’s worth a call even if you think you’re beat.

@EllieBanks333

Жыл бұрын

@@111tedward I was expecting 66+ from SB. After the reveal it's obvious these guys are pretty feeble. I think hero's river decision is totally player dependent for this exact reason. Because against certain players, I'm actually folding here.

This was a terrific call in

I agree with Bart about raising the flop small. My first thought was raising to $65 or $70 and nobody is ever folding AK, KQ, KJ at these stakes, especially if they have backdoors. The stacks are fairly deep as well and you want to get some money asap. Without seeing the river results, I would put SB has A6 clubs or 66 and LJ has KJ. LJ wouldn't tank with AK or AA, JJ, or 66 (both of which probably shove turn). I disagree with Bart about SB shoving A6cc on the river - the guy already played the hand weirdly so you can't discount him having a hand that "doesn't make sense".

@lakerfan1855

Жыл бұрын

Nobody is ever folding top pair to a small flop raise at any stakes.

@charlesnewborn3760

Жыл бұрын

SB never ever ever has 66 and not getting the money in on the turn. Ever.

I agree with Bart

Like this setup more than the typical call ins

@CrushlivePoker

Жыл бұрын

What do you mean?

@richardmiller1329

Жыл бұрын

Camera is closer to you and background is different

@richardmiller1329

Жыл бұрын

Just me but I like it more

@CrushlivePoker

Жыл бұрын

@@richardmiller1329 ah I see. Noted! Thank you for the feedback

@richardmiller1329

Жыл бұрын

Welcome. Great content! Keep up the great work Bart!!

Chicago poker games are crazy good!

what do you do if river was Ac and sb jams and lj calls/folds?

Interesting hand!

i dont mind the call on the flop. board is after all pretty dry, you raise here your only bluffs are like 75s 87s? it is true the bet is small though. i never thought about raising like 2.5x here. good point. i will try it sometime :) it can look like you try to buy a free river and might induce a 3b from a K

@1:16 Rockford Charitable Games rake is less than the local area casinos by a few bucks. And no promo drop.

I want that small blind player in my home game.

I literally just punted at RCG. When was the Rampage meet up???

Rake in NH is about $5 rake $2-$3 promo rake.

It's because the influencers can't record at a lot of casinos including rivers. They have to go where they can vlog and record

FWIW, Rockford Charitable Games has the lowest rake in the area. 10% of pot up to $5 max.

Rivers does not allow Vlogging (No phones, cameras, pictures allowed on the table) so I am sure that is why they chose the charitable games instead.

"How to read a hand"... wait, he had what??

What about AT on the turn from the SB? Its a hand that could easily flat the 4x LJ open pre, call flop 5x C-BET with over card (they do have high SPR) snap call towards the nut straight. Especially ATs of clubs or A of clubs in offsuit AT. Other snap calls are Jacks trying to set mine (6 combos). A2 through A10 of clubs (9 combos). Also King Jack (9 combos). 44s are only beaten by 24 combos KK, AA, JJ, and 66. Of which half easily would be all in pre. 44s beat KJ (9 combos), KQ (12 combos), AK (9 combos), AJ (9 combos) and all Ax of clubs (9 combos). 48 combos beat vs 24 we lose to. Getting 6 to 1 on the call. Have more than the needed like 14% equity against this range. Call! Edit: Yes KJ! Yeah buddy!

what a dream hand

I give to much credit, to many players, this helped me bc I probably would folded here. To me the small blind jamming doesn’t make sense? For me, next time, I have to think if it seems off, maybe he’s off. Thx

It's a $5 rake and match the stack. Players dont 3 bet too often. You see decent amount of situations where players over value their hand

@patrick_kyker

Жыл бұрын

Is there any kind of an entry fee? $5 rake seems awful low.

@blakefredrickson6506

Жыл бұрын

@@patrick_kyker Nope it’s truly a max rake of $5. There’s another charitable games organization in the area with a $6 rake and the casinos are all $6+1

At 7:40 caller says, and Bart seems to agree, that because it's shorthanded, people will open tighter than they usually would given their position. For example he states LJ is "not as late an open" as it would have been with 9 players, and so will open a little tighter. Isn't it true though that what matters for deciding how tight or how loose to first-in isn't how far to the left of the BB you are, but rather how far to the right of the button? In other words, Lojack is Lojack no matter how many players there are. That's what I've always thought and seen others say, anyway.

@blakefredrickson6506

Жыл бұрын

Theoretically you could actually argue the opposite: you might want to be tighter in a full ring LJ position compared to a shorthanded LJ position. This is because 3 players have already folded, and those 3 players will be slightly weighted towards having lower cards given the fact that they folded. Which gives slightly more weight to the players behind you having higher cards. It’s probably an insignificant distinction though. You certainly shouldn’t be playing tighter from a shorthanded LJ compared to a full ring LJ. BUT it’s live poker, not theoretical poker. I think a full ring LJ might play looser simply because he doesn’t get to play as many pots in full ring and he’s bored of folding.

@EllieBanks333

Жыл бұрын

Is the LJ the LJ when it's UTG?

@15:36 it should be noted that KJo is the official hand of Rockford Charity games.

@PortlandPsychedelicSociety

Жыл бұрын

​@@aheroictaxidriver3180 That would be JKo

Dudes catching punts out here

Don't fold sets when you're getting a good price that's gold

Did either one of the villains have a Rampage hat on?

Nit with set nit rolls 2 players putting them on a kill shot and back door kill shot.

@crushlivepoker Bart during the caller saying what type of hands, is one of the funniest things ever! Bart, I just smoked, then you have a smirk and go, lol, wait QJ of clubs, you stutter trying not to laugh at caller, literally dead!

@Dolloff

Жыл бұрын

QJ with a club, lololol

Ok. I stopped before the reveal. There are real set possibilities when it comes to the small blind. Also many two pair combos (AK, KJ or AJ). I'd have to call because I'm not good enough to fold a set on this board. I just don't believe Q10 floats unless it's Q10 of clubs. But that's a possibility.

@adamseidel9780

Жыл бұрын

This is an absolute snap call all day. SB COULD have 6s, I guess, but I’m skeptical we don’t see them start blasting on an earlier street. Same with jacks. If they played Ks or AA that tricky, cest la vie. LJ has the Jack sets and probably the six sets more often plus the aces and kings. You also cover LJ, which is nice, so you can recoup a bit even if you lose there. Bottom line, when we hit the set on a board this disconnected, we are just piling with no regrets unless a painfully obvious draw comes in. I’m internally doing a dance that both guys called here because I’m felting two guys with like AJ and KJ a whole hell of a lot. You lose a decent amount here… but you mostly win.

@TheTree1

Жыл бұрын

QT should be folding the flop it has nothing. This is a snap call.

@DJcyberslash

Жыл бұрын

@@TheTree1 exactly. I figured no way QT gets to the turn. What are they looking to pair a queen against a King high board?

Don’t fold sets getting a price - tattoo

Bart, if you don’t think A6cc shoves then you also don’t have KJ in their range. So what value range would you assign to SB that is worse than 44? What bluffs do they have? You made an argument that supported a fold yet you still clicked the call button

@fenikstechnologies1173

Жыл бұрын

He probably just forgot to mention live poker river snap shoves on draw heavy boards that miss are many, many times missed draws turned into bluffs. Live low stakes punt off stacks constantly like this. He also said 66 was the only hand he’d expect to lose to, not that it’s the only hand he can have. That’s a huge difference. If he can only have 66, it’s a fold. He’s not gonna go over all 8176 hands that live low stakes guys punt with so that people on the internet won’t “gotcha” him.

@AT-bw4cm

Жыл бұрын

It doesn't make sense for SB to shove and hero beats most of LJ's value (mostly AK.) It's pointless to try to make logic out of the illogical. Sometimes people just want to punt.

@Godvernment

Жыл бұрын

Bart not even including 2 pair in SB range is contradictory to what you’re claiming

@fenikstechnologies1173

Жыл бұрын

@@Godvernment You're obviously right and the professional poker player and instructor who specializes in life exploits is obviously wrong. The internet wins again......

@Godvernment

Жыл бұрын

@@fenikstechnologies1173 he’s a low stakes poker instructor and he’s not infallible stop blowing him so hard you look pitiful

Dear Caller, I'm curious, which specific resources do you study or have influenced you the most? - books, trainers, online courses etc. Thanks!

R I P Mark "The Jelly" Ari

RCG rake max is 10% max up to $5...lowest take in town

I knew at least one had kj possibly suited and I was more than right before they revealed their hands lol

I play rcg all the time...

@Oeyoeyoo

Жыл бұрын

5 doller rake at 1/2

@Oeyoeyoo

Жыл бұрын

Max

Rake is $5 at RCG

Best part of this is he’s holding 44 rampages favourite hand lol

They don’t allow filming at Rivers Des Plains

Step 1: Find poker stream that refuses to upgrade their security. Step 2: Find one of many of the people who have access to those 'secure' areas. Step 3: Have them relay the information of your opponents hand to you.

@apriliarider6072

Жыл бұрын

yea right like that could ever happen in real life

RCG is only 10% up to $5 drop rake, better than rivers rake.

@dan22482

Жыл бұрын

True but they rake $10 on bomb pots and a lot of the games are half and half. The bomb pot rake is part of the reason RCG is dead imo. No one’s making money when they’re raking $10 and people have $300 in front of them.

@mackmeter

Жыл бұрын

@@dan22482 I didn't notice the change during the bomb pots, oops! The last few I was there for I just skipped altogether

Fold pre

@rsandoval9203

Жыл бұрын

For $20 vs the $1700 he won? I'm guessing you play 1-2 NL or limit.

@Charlie_Ses

Жыл бұрын

@@rsandoval9203 So you want to use the outcome to justify the play? By that logic you should call here with ATC pre because you know it's only $20 and hell you might flop trips or a fh. Fwiw solvers agree with me this is a fold pre generally speaking, but hey what do I know you keep spouting shlt

@rsandoval9203

Жыл бұрын

@@Charlie_Ses I'm saying that if you ask anyone who is a professional gambler or someone who actually makes money playing poker whether or not they would put up 2% of their stack to see a flop with a pocket pair REGARDLESS of what it is, 99% of them would. Since you clearly play 1-2 and probably buy in for $100, that would be like calling a $2 raise for you. It's called gambling for a reason son. If you are scared, go play checkers.

@Charlie_Ses

Жыл бұрын

@@rsandoval9203 You're talking utter shlte, but ignorance is bliss I guess. The problem with calling in the CO with 44 to a LJ open is you have no idea whether the SB and BB are going to 3 bet, and if they are half decent they are going to widen their 3 bet range in that spot to pick up the dead money. It's bad poker to call in that spot, but especially when it's your very first hand at the table and you have no idea who you are playing against. The SB or BB could be very aggro players 3 betting heavily, the LJ could be very tight meaning you're dominated against his opening range. And I tend to play online mostly so your predictions are wrong, but I understand what a 4bb open is. But you carry on belittling people online with your moronic bs and everyone is happy. Have a nice day fool.

@lloydchristmas1086

Жыл бұрын

@@rsandoval9203 Nobody folds pre in 1-2

Illinois casinos do not allow vloggers

What am I missing here… I would’ve folded river. Snap call on the turn + shove into the pre flop aggressor + aggressor calling shove makes my 44’s feel like a bluff catcher. None of Barts reasoning made me feel better about my decision lol Awesome hand though.

@CrushlivePoker

Жыл бұрын

The point is that QT SB is very unlikely based upon the flop distribution and configuration of the opponents. We also went over the other hands that the preflop raiser can have that 44 beats when he calls all-in for less on the river.

@rsandoval9203

Жыл бұрын

I can see folding to a club on the river especially against 2 people calling a huge turn bet. Very likely at least one is on a strong flush draw. It's very dumb to be doing that with a broadway draw which is what came in because if you make your broadway with a club, you are still very likely to be beat. Unless you were beat on the flop, you pretty much like this runout. I would have called the river as well.

@adamseidel9780

Жыл бұрын

Value. You’re missing value. This is a snap call.

@Godvernment

Жыл бұрын

@@CrushlivePoker you narrowed the SB range down to QTcc and 66 which both beat 44. You never gave a worse value range or a bluffing range and you completely dismissed the possibility of an over play range (KJ/A6cc). So what part of SB’s range does 44 beat?

@DJcyberslash

Жыл бұрын

Kk would of got it in pre. QT would of never called the flop. Leaves 66 which is only 1 hand with only 3 possible combos. There's lots of Kx as well and even ATs and even suited Kx that we are crushing.

I see Bart's chair shaking, he must have a vibrating device

Snap call. You're literally beating tons of value hands, so you can never fold.

@TheTree1

Жыл бұрын

More attention needs to be on the turn. I would love for the hero to tell us what kind of hands he could have that was a bluff on the turn.

what a charity

If you're not calling top of range, getting a price, with extreme prejudice, you're losing a lot of value. It hurts when you get coolered, so we tend to do too much to avoid it. If you're fucked half the time on this river, a call is printing. shrug.

Sure I understand the distribution but at the end of the day we're talking about rec players here you didn't provide whether these two gentlemen were professionals or not. In my opinion from an exploitative standpoint I can put depending on the opponent on Queen 10. And then the over call I mean how many times you going to be good here against pure rec players especially at the stakes people call down the book isn't always right and you're going to get cleaned out constantly calling down

@AT-bw4cm

Жыл бұрын

Q10 of clubs should be the only straight for sb (and would the average rec float this hand after hero calls?). Offsuit Q10 are not getting implied odds to call turn. If they are calling Q10 off, then you have to pay them off. If they are constantly making -ev calls then you will make up for their luck in other hands. Nothing else makes sense. When a play doesn't make sense, you should always call being at the top of your range. I would give LJ 5 combos of sets because most sets will go allin on the turn (maybe less because he had the clock called on him on the river so I would discount set of A) vs. 9 combos of AK and maybe a few combos of KJ. Don't forget the math. LJ calls for less and hero is getting nearly 5 to 1 on a call. I would say this is an easier call with recs because a pro will never donk jam this river.

Don’t take down your robbi videos…so embarrassed for you brother.

@JS-nz2qc

Жыл бұрын

Huh

@gordong.5154

Жыл бұрын

@@JS-nz2qc you couldn’t comprehend my statement? Wow embarrassing

@JS-nz2qc

Жыл бұрын

@@gordong.5154 I’m all in

@gordong.5154

Жыл бұрын

@@JS-nz2qc lock in

@garbar99

Жыл бұрын

@@gordong.5154 your statement doesn't make sense. "Don't take your robbi videos... so embarrassed for you brother". What do you mean?

Too much analysis, live fishes. No reason needed.

My guess was AK or KJ ❤

I call, and pray a donkey didn't get there.