Leaked America's Cup Data Reveals Controversial Team New Zealand Advantage

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After analysing 2.5 million data points we can finally complete the jigsaw of ETNZ's dominant Auckland performance.
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  • @warwicks2780
    @warwicks27808 ай бұрын

    As a part time sailor and full time data analyst this is amazing content. Thank you!

  • @fejzer
    @fejzer8 ай бұрын

    Somebody should hire this man... teams in shambles

  • @brettmciver432

    @brettmciver432

    8 ай бұрын

    Just like the nation of England is, a shambles "😜😉🍻

  • @NeuralEngin33r

    @NeuralEngin33r

    8 ай бұрын

    No! He's ours!

  • @stevetrouble7080

    @stevetrouble7080

    7 ай бұрын

    Hire a spy to use stolen information against a competitor. Sounds like they should just add a motor.

  • @DriverDad58
    @DriverDad588 ай бұрын

    Great data analysis! Keep up the good work. Still the best AC news/analysis around.

  • @thedoctor907
    @thedoctor9078 ай бұрын

    From sailing in hydrofoil generation, I similarly aim for max cant and then agressively do mainsail trim. The tricky part is balancing leeway and lift when doing a bearaway.

  • @alexanderkutschera149
    @alexanderkutschera1498 ай бұрын

    I can hardly wait to see what the AC75s have to bring us to see/not see. This cutting edge sailing is one of the most exciting thing’s going on in technology today. You are helping us lay people almost understand it.

  • @freeaccess5905
    @freeaccess59058 ай бұрын

    Great job Mossy. Thanks for doing all the work and sharing it with us. It is easy to see your passion for the sport.

  • @happychappy2b252
    @happychappy2b2528 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the time and effort that went into the analysis and video. Really enjoyed improving my understanding of sailing principles (non sailor type) and especially the rather special subtleties of AC sailing

  • @macscott5290
    @macscott52908 ай бұрын

    One of your best videos yet. Loving the data analysis. Keep up the good work!

  • @mikelclark101
    @mikelclark1018 ай бұрын

    Awesome video. Appreciate the time taken and the fantastic insights

  • @billgiles3261
    @billgiles32618 ай бұрын

    As an aircraft engineer and sailor that explanation is fascinating. Thank you 👏. (Especially for the hard work!)

  • @grahamb8191
    @grahamb81918 ай бұрын

    Fantastic content! Thanks for effort you put in.

  • @sly6627
    @sly66278 ай бұрын

    Very much appreciate the effort you put in on this one, fascinating!

  • @MozzySails

    @MozzySails

    8 ай бұрын

    My pleasure! Although this video was particularly laborious!

  • @8cervezas648
    @8cervezas6488 ай бұрын

    I have watched this three times now. An excellent video on many levels. The narrative, the insight, and the graphics combine brilliantly. My 13 year old and I were talking to the Alinghi guys on their open day about the T Foil on their AC37 and how much control they have over the cant and horizontal angle. Haven't Ineos just broken one of their T Foils in testing recently too? Keep up the great work!

  • @iforpowell7390
    @iforpowell73908 ай бұрын

    Really good findings. Thanks for the effort.

  • @vandyFixer
    @vandyFixer8 ай бұрын

    Very interesting analysis. As a non sailor I find your technical explanations and breakdowns very understandable and I always learn something new about these foiling monohulls.

  • @MozzySails

    @MozzySails

    8 ай бұрын

    Great to hear!

  • @Diceloader

    @Diceloader

    8 ай бұрын

    @MozzySails It would be interesting to compare the use of can't angle from the early races to the Cup races. I believe that TNZ only realised what Ineos were doing after they complained about the can't system not being responsive enough. After the software was tweaked TNZ went fully down the rabbit hole. ​​⁠

  • @paulgush
    @paulgush8 ай бұрын

    Another interpretation is that NZ trimmed their board cant more often because they had to, given how unforgiving the T-foil is. Also, my interpretation of Luna Rossa having better performance at low speed is that they probably had slightly bigger foils. Less time on the back side of the drag curve, but too much wetted area for good performance at high speed.

  • @Gefionius
    @Gefionius8 ай бұрын

    Fantastic analysis! You have outdone yourself today. Fascinating!!!

  • @MozzySails

    @MozzySails

    8 ай бұрын

    It took a hell of a lot of time cleaning noise from the data and coming up with filters to focus on straight line... then I discovered some errors in calculation of VMG in the raw data which needed recalculating. It ended up a lot more arduous than I ever expected. There's lots more of interest in the data sets... if don't get told to take this down!

  • @EurekaYoungGuns
    @EurekaYoungGuns8 ай бұрын

    Awesome dude! Absolutely amazing that we got this final closure of the last AC. Keep it up!

  • @seanricketts941
    @seanricketts9418 ай бұрын

    Awesome video Mozzy. This method makes me think about the design process behind ETNZ's banana foil (test foil 1) and if this is how they planned to trim it. Also with cyclors back in the cup, the powerplant might be able to produce enough wattage to do that much active main trim. It will be interesting to see which method emerges when the new gen 75's start to race and what the foils look like then. Really appreciate the time put into this one, hope there isn't any backlash for releasing this.

  • @AndyUK-Corrival
    @AndyUK-Corrival8 ай бұрын

    Fascinating as,always Mozzy. Feels like the longest job interview, somebody will hire you surely. Thanks for the hide effort analysing the mountain of data. Andy UK

  • @peterwor
    @peterwor8 ай бұрын

    Great Job going through all that data and excellent explanations of the foils too. Superb video...

  • @garygavin857
    @garygavin8578 ай бұрын

    I have followed Mozzy sails for some time. This episode is a real GEM. You explained clearly how NZ were able to make progress by their technical advantage they thought through. I hope this feeds into the other teams who are about to finalise their Cup design for manufacturing. Thank you.

  • @cathybrind2381

    @cathybrind2381

    Ай бұрын

    I hope it doesn't.

  • @leeshaofu
    @leeshaofu27 күн бұрын

    Awesome job 👍 I'll be sure to keep watching as we head into the AC.

  • @Jet-qj7gb
    @Jet-qj7gb8 ай бұрын

    That was really really interesting and informative!! Thank you, I’ve thoroughly enjoyed all of your posts and this one is one of your best:))

  • @IRL1466
    @IRL14668 ай бұрын

    Awesome video. Don’t want to know how many hours it took to put together! Keep the content coming! We can’t get enough of it !

  • @pauljohnson9889
    @pauljohnson98898 ай бұрын

    Cunning Kiwis always trying something to stay in front of the herd ! Not bad for a little country of 5 million , and a pretty handy rugby team too !!

  • @imusuallycorrect
    @imusuallycorrect8 ай бұрын

    Awesome analysis as always. Thanks for putting in so much time and effort. I wonder if the teams are watching this channel to check they haven't missed anything!

  • @maxgrass8134
    @maxgrass81348 ай бұрын

    Thanks for putting in the effort! Great analysis!!

  • @RotarySMP
    @RotarySMP8 ай бұрын

    Thanks for grinding through the anaylsis, and then summarising it so clearly for us. Agree with the comment that it is interesting that other teams had reliablity issues with the cant control systems although TNZ were activating it 10x more often.

  • @richardnorthover8995
    @richardnorthover89958 ай бұрын

    Mozzy sails, this deep dive analysis is facinating. Well doneand thanks.

  • @FlyingboatsRCG
    @FlyingboatsRCG8 ай бұрын

    Epic analysis Mozzy. Thanks for all your hard work and presenting it so we can "see under the hood" of what's really going on :)

  • @passionvoile1650
    @passionvoile16508 ай бұрын

    Excellent analysis. Worth the time - what a progress this channel has made!

  • @sobobwas6871
    @sobobwas68718 ай бұрын

    Stunning presentation. You have a gift in bringing highly technical information to the uninitiated (me) in such an understandable manner. I have been hooked since you started. Thank you indeed 👏

  • @MozzySails

    @MozzySails

    8 ай бұрын

    Wow, thank you!

  • @grahamlauder2866
    @grahamlauder28668 ай бұрын

    Excellent analysis, but why, if ETNZ were working that one design element so hard, were the other teams having reliability problems. I know that some systems work best and most reliably when thrashed, but it seems to me perhaps that the others broke because they didn't make the effort to understand the system beyond it's "up-down" function. Also don't worry about a takedown of the video, I have a suspicion that the majority of your subscribers, like me, are Kiwis and we love this shit. :D

  • @mrriesen9004

    @mrriesen9004

    8 ай бұрын

    My guess is a many small adjustments are easier on the mechanics than a fewer large adjustments.

  • @DouglasEKnappMSAOM

    @DouglasEKnappMSAOM

    8 ай бұрын

    @@mrriesen9004 Might it be that keeping it in perfect balance at all times lowers the stress on the machine?

  • @ronjenkins7998

    @ronjenkins7998

    6 ай бұрын

    He should explain why ineos has /is going down the gurgler....Surely the point here was TNZ within the rules...These boats are minutely inspected before competition ..this guy sounds like Dennis Connor..

  • @Kiwi17714

    @Kiwi17714

    5 күн бұрын

    This is a bit late to the party, but I read that ETNZ changed the hydraulic fluid daily. Other teams didn't do this and the fluid degraded or was contaminated with very small amounts of metal.

  • @grahamlauder2866

    @grahamlauder2866

    5 күн бұрын

    @@Kiwi17714 Actually I can see that, but metal filings are not really a problem generally if a system is filtered correctly. Of course you could ask where the filings are coming from which any reliability engineer is going to demand an answer. There is another thought though, pushing oil through filters and coolers suck huge amounts of energy. Both of these things contribute to the longevity of the oil however. So then my question would be, did ETNZ decide to take a small hit on fluid longevity by ignoring cooling and have oil filtering done daily on-shore. That would make more sense, because an onshore filtering rig could filter down 0.5 microns as opposed to onboard maybe 10 microns, and get rid of water and carbon (result of overheated oil). That would save weight (although more reservoir volume helps flatten temp curve) and take restrictions out of the system and increase efficiency. I would definitely go in that direction if I was designing the system, given that the volume of oil used is pretty small relative to conventionally powered hydraulic systems, in fact I would be thinking seriously about using water, not oil, much freer flowing on low pressure systems and mechanically more efficient. .

  • @vincentanfi
    @vincentanfi8 ай бұрын

    I wonder whos job it is to watch Mozzy Sails youtube videos in the cup teams... I want to be that guy

  • @brianlambert4685

    @brianlambert4685

    8 ай бұрын

    probably required viewing all team members!

  • @derekness7900
    @derekness79008 ай бұрын

    Great analysis Mozzy -it will take me another go through the video to get this 100% 😊

  • @jonathanseal5155
    @jonathanseal51558 ай бұрын

    Bloody fantastic work, mate!! Effing fascinating indeed! You are definitely “ da Man of the AC”…… many thanks for your hard work, and insightful analysis👍👍👏👏🔥🔥🔥

  • @peterludlow7047
    @peterludlow70478 ай бұрын

    Stunning work Mozzy as usual. Your explanation of the data was crystal clear and produced a penny-drop moment with me. The thing is that the "secret" was hidden in plain sight all the time by the foil tip breaking the surface so much in the event footage footage.....

  • @MozzySails

    @MozzySails

    8 ай бұрын

    Great to hear!

  • @Frankafonia
    @Frankafonia8 ай бұрын

    Wow, this is really a great insight! Hats off to you man

  • @MozzySails

    @MozzySails

    8 ай бұрын

    Thank you, hopefully it brings us closer to understanding what makes these boats tick

  • @roslynhita6149
    @roslynhita61497 ай бұрын

    Pete said it best when he made the remark .....AC37 will come down to how well the Teams sail their boats as all boats will be very much closer in speed and efficiency..we'll see hey....Oh btw ..STOP giving our secrets away

  • @MrNickGascoigne
    @MrNickGascoigne8 ай бұрын

    Great video, makes complete sense when you explain it in these terms.. very interesting to hear this 👍👍

  • @MozzySails

    @MozzySails

    8 ай бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @skylineeeeeeful
    @skylineeeeeefulАй бұрын

    Thank you Mozzy, amazing video!

  • @Dan-kt7zu
    @Dan-kt7zu8 ай бұрын

    This makes the automated control systems even more interesting if foil cant can be controlled in sync with sail trim. Probably a combination of both will be the most efficient.

  • @JonathanFerrier
    @JonathanFerrier8 ай бұрын

    Looks a lot like the raw telemetry data coming off the boats through the wireless data network and then being distributed to the various data users, if thats how they still do it today. I was in the telecom bunker in 2003, a lot less data points but similar all the same. Was fun checking all the boats data comms boxes at 4am each race day. As an early AC nut was fascinating spotting all the tech, especially TNZ but also spotting the problems. Very well done Mozzie, keep following the breadcrumbs, its a smidgeon of whats really going on but you are doing a fantastic job.

  • @michaelparks4361
    @michaelparks43618 ай бұрын

    Well done with this analysis very cool! Especially interesting seeing the lack of t foil transition in this cup so far as-well considering what happened last time round.

  • @user-qy4vq2qv2s
    @user-qy4vq2qv2s8 ай бұрын

    Absolutely fantastic piece of plausible data detective work, well done Mozzy. Some additional items it would good to get your view on (maybe part 2): 1) Boat handling (aside from grinder effort); 2) Handling in a swell; 3) Take-off predictability and speed, etc.

  • @jamesaron1967
    @jamesaron19678 ай бұрын

    With all the time and resources you devote to unraveling the array of techniques and technology the AC teams use for their boats, you really should be working for the AC professionally. You have a gift for this kind of stuff. I'm serious.

  • @weatheranddarkness

    @weatheranddarkness

    8 ай бұрын

    I'm glad he's not, there needs to be somebody doing rigourous interpretation on the outside. There are far more people yammering away NOT knowing what they're talking about.

  • @josephrandall9374
    @josephrandall93748 ай бұрын

    Amazing! Great work Mozz

  • @federicocordioli7254
    @federicocordioli72548 ай бұрын

    BRILLIANT analysis Mozzy!! 👏

  • @simonnichol9851
    @simonnichol98518 ай бұрын

    Well done!! That must have been a lot of numbers to go through.

  • @timjones3094
    @timjones30948 ай бұрын

    Absolutely fascinating Thank you !

  • @paulspence8672
    @paulspence86728 ай бұрын

    Ok so you've leveled up on this one. Amazing analysis, and great video. Thanks.

  • @Hop754
    @Hop7543 ай бұрын

    BRILLIANT analysis. Thank you ! 😊

  • @james5553
    @james55538 ай бұрын

    Amazing. I really appreciate this - thank you !

  • @MozzySails

    @MozzySails

    8 ай бұрын

    You're very welcome!

  • @radarriau
    @radarriau8 ай бұрын

    I can relate to the high, cant angle... tilting the foil to windward and adjusting mast rake, pitch and sale trim is very dynamic on a wind foil. Thank you for the data analysis

  • @OleMartinLyng
    @OleMartinLyng6 ай бұрын

    FANTASIC! Love the deep dig into the element of the data. Not so relevant for my sailing, but new element to my mind when watching live competition. Thanks a lot for keeping my mind busy )

  • @AdrianThompson-wn8eu
    @AdrianThompson-wn8eu8 ай бұрын

    We really appreciate the hours of work needed to sift through all that data! Thank you. The Kiwis are a canny bunch, and if I was issued a 'one design' package, developed by them, I have to say I would be all over it like rash to see what possible advantage they might have built into the system. I'm not suggesting any software shenanigans, but the simple instruction that the system is basically a deployment mechanism for controlling the foil arms sets the scene nicely for most teams to do just that. Foil tab control and foil development seemed to be quite enough of a challenge for the design gurus.

  • @nigelcochrane5099
    @nigelcochrane50998 ай бұрын

    Great commentary!! Best ever. I really enjoyed that.

  • @MozzySails

    @MozzySails

    8 ай бұрын

    Wow, thanks!

  • @rorymacintosh6691
    @rorymacintosh6691Ай бұрын

    My God, Mozzy Sails, what a wonderful bit of analysis! You are the bomb! I love what you’re doing. You’re an analysis is great, and it also gives an insight into the depth of engineering and science that goes into the creation of these fabulous boats. Of course the boats need to keep their secrets, so we don’t really learn all the ins and outs, your sneak peaks help me understand the enormous complexity of what’s actually going on here. You may take a bit of flack for divulging, secrets, but I think it’s great for the sport for more people to understand how complicated this is. Thanks again.

  • @user-ym5dm9xd5w
    @user-ym5dm9xd5wАй бұрын

    Great research. Awesome insight. Very interesting.

  • @welovefarmingsubsadies
    @welovefarmingsubsadies8 ай бұрын

    Thankyou for all your in-depth analysis. 🙏👊🤙

  • @dropoff11111
    @dropoff111118 ай бұрын

    Great job as always

  • @hippodackl1521
    @hippodackl15218 ай бұрын

    What a great analysis. Kudos!

  • @specialisedheavy9932
    @specialisedheavy99328 ай бұрын

    great deep dive, thanks mate

  • @TheOriginalRaster
    @TheOriginalRaster8 ай бұрын

    Great analysis, great engineering work. Thank you!

  • @MozzySails

    @MozzySails

    8 ай бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @stevewilliams7122
    @stevewilliams71228 ай бұрын

    Great work Mozzy! Begs the question ‘how are the teams positioned now to use this insight?’ And it will be fascinating to see if teams without T foils make changes!

  • @bjjrhino
    @bjjrhino8 ай бұрын

    This is amazing Keep up the great work

  • @anthonyrader3466
    @anthonyrader34663 күн бұрын

    That was a lot of work. A great education in a short time. Thank you.

  • @johnstott1431
    @johnstott14318 ай бұрын

    Great stuff thanks.

  • @Mentaculus42
    @Mentaculus428 ай бұрын

    What a great video with explanations that one can learn new things from!!

  • @auktui
    @auktui8 ай бұрын

    Amazing work!!!!

  • @solosailingteam9515
    @solosailingteam95158 ай бұрын

    Wow Mozzy, that's so good, nice work

  • @timuren8364
    @timuren83648 ай бұрын

    Great stuff!

  • @rogermcgaw7776
    @rogermcgaw77768 ай бұрын

    This is an amazing analysis which is rarely done in the sailing world

  • @JamesYoung61
    @JamesYoung618 ай бұрын

    Another brilliant video, you were defiantly the right bloke to give all that data to, looking for something when you are not sure what you are looking for must be incredibly difficult especially with a data dump that big, software to the rescue.

  • @cbsos4u52
    @cbsos4u528 ай бұрын

    GREAT video!

  • @mikeburrows8690
    @mikeburrows86907 ай бұрын

    Awesome Video mate.

  • @real2gone
    @real2gone8 ай бұрын

    Another excellent analysis, Tom.

  • @andreagiordano7712
    @andreagiordano77128 ай бұрын

    Great Mozzy! Bravo!

  • @dougsmith5690
    @dougsmith56908 ай бұрын

    Fascinating analysis. I wonder what the teams will have up their sleeves next.

  • @streamingvideosystem
    @streamingvideosystem8 ай бұрын

    Nice work mate 🙏🏻

  • @johntasker9588
    @johntasker95888 ай бұрын

    Kiwi here, very informative and well done making the effort to unravel some data. ETNZ give nothing away, even to the yachting people here.

  • @Jdcrouch1972
    @Jdcrouch19728 ай бұрын

    Nice piece, nicely done. it was 0-stupid o-clock last cycle but I’m sure in the challenger series commentary was talking how bow down was an advantage! Just as well you got the NZ hospitality in the first ac40 regatta, they might not be so welcoming in Barca lol

  • @pblakez
    @pblakez8 ай бұрын

    I think I mentioned this before it also allows some of the foil to be above the water when not needed for lift or leeway there by reducing drag

  • @neilcorder9367
    @neilcorder9367Ай бұрын

    Great job!!!👏

  • @mozismobile
    @mozismobile8 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @MozzySails

    @MozzySails

    8 ай бұрын

    Wow, thanks!

  • @charlottescott7150
    @charlottescott71508 ай бұрын

    Just amazing Mozzy! Dont get taken off air please

  • @mikeh996
    @mikeh9968 ай бұрын

    Appreciate all your work !!! As someone who knew nothing about sailing. I'm new an annoying armchair expert to my friends. And I owe a lot too you .keep up the good work

  • @joepbronneberg3057
    @joepbronneberg30578 ай бұрын

    0h wow Excellent and very fascinating analysis. Knowledge and analysis shouldn't be something to be scared of :-) as told in school and history. Beside that engineers could also have found out the same!!! So big shout out to you!

  • @peterebel7899
    @peterebel78998 ай бұрын

    Great inputs!

  • @MozzySails

    @MozzySails

    8 ай бұрын

    Cheers Peter!

  • @peterebel7899

    @peterebel7899

    8 ай бұрын

    @@MozzySails I mean: You are engaged, my respect! I do have high respect to NZ's approach to sailing across many decades. But I know you can beat them. I had just one chance to fight against one member of the NZ AC-team in a WC, but he finished behind me. It was just model yachts 10Rater and they did not foil in those times. But it's always the same: Taking advantage of the rules, the physics, the tactics, .... - detecting the aspects making the difference. It is very refreshing to watch what the Aussies did in skiff sailing, NZ did in AC racing, France did in offshore racing. Let's fight them 🙂

  • @rinrat6754
    @rinrat67547 ай бұрын

    Just plain fascinating. Brand new subscriber here.

  • @MozzySails

    @MozzySails

    6 ай бұрын

    Welcome aboard!

  • @franspigeaud2199
    @franspigeaud21998 ай бұрын

    This is one of the very best analyses and explanations on what happened in AC 36. Now let all the teams make use of this as far as they did not discover it themselves. Curious to see what will be next!

  • @thebarnaclebill
    @thebarnaclebill8 ай бұрын

    Fantastic post, ( I even understood some of it ) I am in awe of this guy.

  • @GordonjSmith1
    @GordonjSmith18 ай бұрын

    V interesting. It rather makes one want to go back and see the technical specifications for the canting system, and rules associated with it, in order to understand if the challengers were aware that they could operate it as frequently, and in small steps. The impression I as an observer had, was that the canting system only provided 'down' or 'up' instructions - so the revelation here for me was that a team could 'nudge it' up or down, as often as they pleased. Fascinating work - my thanks.

  • @MozzySails

    @MozzySails

    8 ай бұрын

    The very first line in the old (AC75 V1) class rule for the foil cant system stated: 26.1 Details of a FCS to control the cant rotation of the foils will be specified in accordance with Rule 33. This system will allow cant to be changed during manoeuvres and to make low-frequency cant setting changes, but the system will not be designed to provide high-frequency cant adjustment. The words about 'low-frequency' changes has been removed from the new rule 😜

  • @carlosvergara1080

    @carlosvergara1080

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@MozzySails so cant adjustment will still be allowed for this edition then, with no specification on the frequency? Thanks a lot for your content Mozzy!

  • @MozzySails

    @MozzySails

    8 ай бұрын

    @@carlosvergara1080 yes, high frequency cant adjustment is allowed. Parts will be one design, but slightly upgraded.

  • @philippedumez8417
    @philippedumez84178 ай бұрын

    Excellent and well done 👍🎉

  • @chrisjohnston3978
    @chrisjohnston39788 ай бұрын

    Another example of the advantage for the writers of the rules… love these videos!

  • @colinboniface194
    @colinboniface1948 ай бұрын

    Nice work...

  • @herbparker3091
    @herbparker30918 ай бұрын

    Well done on the data crunch

  • @roderick167
    @roderick1678 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the analysis.. didnt see the data until you highlighted it... from a viewer totally not associated with any other syndicates

  • @ger5989
    @ger59898 ай бұрын

    oh man what a effort and what a inside. great stuff mozzy great stuff. whne do you get a invitation from one of the AC teams ? 🤙

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