Late Bloomer's Lament | Re.2005 “Sagittario”

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The Italian Air Force is often credited with being far inferior in numbers and overall flight performance to the Allies. However, in 1943, they managed to put into service three excellent and modern fighters. These were the Fiat G.55, Macchi C.205, and the Reggiane Re.2005. However, these were introduced too late and in too few numbers to have any meaningful effect on the overall situation for the Italians. This was especially the case with the Re.2005, nicknamed Sagittario (Archer), which showed promising performance but less than 50 were built by the time of the Italian Armistice.
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Article by: Marko P.
Script by: Marko P.
Narrated by Aurum
Edited by KrishWawa
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  • @Ackdaddy100
    @Ackdaddy1004 ай бұрын

    This has to be one of the best looking WW2 fighters, those Italians sure are good at making beautiful machines.

  • @BTWerewolf
    @BTWerewolf4 ай бұрын

    One of the most beautiful planes ever made.

  • @arandomfawn5289

    @arandomfawn5289

    4 ай бұрын

    There is centauro my dude

  • @englishpassport6590

    @englishpassport6590

    4 ай бұрын

    It looks like it had a Spitfires wings, The Mk 9 Spitfire squadrons on Malta did loose a number of aircraft to the Sagittario it really was a pilots airplane.

  • @MiG-31893

    @MiG-31893

    4 ай бұрын

    @@englishpassport6590I actually am looking into those engagements, it seems that the Brit’s lost a Spit 9 to Capitano Giulio Torresi, while loosing two Re.2005s. Torresi would claim another spit as a probable, or at least damaged. Spits would also damaged 2 Re-2005s and the rest of them were unfortunately bombed and stranded on the ground. Would’ve been nice if one survived today

  • @rudeone4life
    @rudeone4life4 ай бұрын

    I had the pleasure here in Italy some years ago to talk to a few of the pilots from the 22nd Gruppo. They had a few Re.2005 on hand. Each I spoke with did not fly it in combat but, just training flights around the airfield. They all told me that the 2005 was simply a beast and was a pure joy to fly. They would take turns every other day with one pilot getting a test hop around the airfield. They also told me that things would have been different if they 5 Series would have arrived earlier in the war. And I agreed with them.

  • @lukasvillar9328
    @lukasvillar93284 ай бұрын

    One can only imagine how lethal this fighter would be with a late war DB series engine... Anyway, this is in my opinion, the most beautiful fighter of the war, if only looks could kill.

  • @Nellis202

    @Nellis202

    4 ай бұрын

    If only looks could kill . 😂🤣😂 But she is a beaut though !

  • @Etendard1708
    @Etendard17084 ай бұрын

    Beautiful. I love the name too.. Sagittario

  • @williamkoppos7039
    @williamkoppos70394 ай бұрын

    1:00 12 THOUSAND Horsepower! Dayum you would think that would be enough. Who needs jets?

  • @nimomemre6550
    @nimomemre65504 ай бұрын

    If italians would had just focused on their first modern monoplane Macchi c.202 and c.205, things would've turned better for them. The policy of making every Italian business men in aviation sector happy because of their political connections & fundings doomed the whole war progress.

  • @littlebritain64
    @littlebritain644 ай бұрын

    Italian industrial power was not at the level of the one of Allied countries. Beautiful projects but no organized production, and outnumbered by its enemies forces. I would suggest also the Macchi 202 Folgore and 205 Veltro and Fiat G 55 for some videos of Yours to come. Thanks a lot for this video!

  • @ianslaby5703
    @ianslaby57034 ай бұрын

    It's absolutely beautiful. Imo it is the best prop plane in warthunder definitely the most fun.

  • @basilreid257
    @basilreid2574 ай бұрын

    Good article on a little known but beautiful fighter

  • @johannesfeigl5309
    @johannesfeigl53094 ай бұрын

    A real ferrari of the air

  • @buckwheatINtheCity
    @buckwheatINtheCity4 ай бұрын

    This aircraft was at least the equal of the P51 when it first appeared. The Italian government was unable to make up its mind at first, because the other two options had fewer teething problems. Development time was lost trying to fix the problems with the landing gear and the vibration of the fuselage. They never had the time to mass produce their new designs before the Allied Invasion of Sicily.

  • @crownprincesebastianjohano7069
    @crownprincesebastianjohano70694 ай бұрын

    The Fiat G.56 with the DB 603 was an even greater jump forward. Maximum speed of 440 MPH, with excellent handling and agility at all altitudes. It was so good the Luftwaffe forbade its manufacture by the Social Republic. It could have been a game-changer for the Germans but Goring wouldn't sign off on it as a frontline fighter because it wasn't German, as well as the man-hours needed, though it could be reduced to 9000 man hours from 15000. Stupid decision, by March 1944 the Germans had the industrial capacity to build them in large numbers. It is thought he preferred the Ta-152 which had similar speed but was far less agile, and was plagued with problems which prevented its mass production. One wonders what damage could have been done had the Luftwaffe produced 5000 G.56s.

  • @Sturminfantrist

    @Sturminfantrist

    4 ай бұрын

    I think it wasnt because the G.56 was not a german design, producing a new fighterdesign would interupt the Fighter Production , this is also the reason why they produced the (outclassed) 109 until the end

  • @alexsv1938

    @alexsv1938

    4 ай бұрын

    I forgot on what website (ww2aircraft, secretprojects, axishistory etc) I've read the transcript of a meeting with Goring in 1943 following the tests of the Italian aircrafts but what I remember of the content is that he very impressed and hoped they could start helping them mass produce the G.55 and G.56. He praised the Italians as great aircraft designers but struggling to produce said masterpieces in numbers. The whole reason this went nowhere was the collapse of Italy and the time it would take to set up new production lines solely my themselves. The G.55 would take 15000 hours to build while a Bf 109, 5000. And as for the Ta 152 comparison, the Ta 152 was a compromise aircraft, using as many common parts with the FW 190D, as the RLM could not afford to build the more different Ta 153 that Tank favored.

  • @lucasokeefe7935

    @lucasokeefe7935

    Ай бұрын

    The Allies for sure would have had big problems if all the top Nazis weren't drug addled paranoid messes

  • @Cuccos19
    @Cuccos194 ай бұрын

    All three types with DB.605 (Fiat G.55, Macchi C.205, Reggiane Re.2005) were excellent fighters, simply in par with the late war Allied fighters. As the history shows, they were too few, too late... for the fortune of the Allied pilots.

  • @iffracem
    @iffracem4 ай бұрын

    @1:00 A 12,200 HP engine!!!!!! My gawd what a beast! Oh wait, that would be Fiat HP "at the Brochure" . closer to 2,200... carry on

  • @anto-shturmovik
    @anto-shturmovik4 ай бұрын

    Hi! Very cool video, learned a lot as i don't know much about Reggiane fighters. However, please stop using this camera shake effect on photos. A fixed image or a very slight side slide effect is much preferred IMHO. Thanks !

  • @alhemicaribastovani9029
    @alhemicaribastovani90294 ай бұрын

    Great video 🎉🎉❤

  • @A14b19
    @A14b194 ай бұрын

    My uncle when in Africa ww2 told me as a truck driver he never got shot up in43 as he always show allied aircraft being shot down in dogfights with these planes like butterflies flying around …

  • @Nellis202
    @Nellis2024 ай бұрын

    Inferior to the MC205 but better than the G55 ? I do believe you have that backwards !

  • @clementevaldez1271
    @clementevaldez12714 ай бұрын

    Another one of the most beautiful and effective Italian fighters in WWII....TOO FEW AND TOO LATE....SADLY IT CAME OUT WHEN THE THE OTHER COUNTRIES ALREADY ADVANCED AIRCRAFT ALREADY IN LARGE NUMBERS....THEY LOOKED LIKE THE FINEST RACE HORSES GRACEFUL AND ELEGANT.....

  • @davidlang4442
    @davidlang44424 ай бұрын

    12,000 hp? Nay, nay!

  • @zenknight4839
    @zenknight48394 ай бұрын

    Wait, y'all make planes too ?? I'm all in for this :D

  • @MangoTroubles-007
    @MangoTroubles-0074 ай бұрын

    Did the Torpedo version of the G.55 ever see service? It appears in my book and looks amazingly cool. Great video 😃

  • @Nellis202

    @Nellis202

    4 ай бұрын

    They really could have used that capability in the North African theatre.

  • @luislealsantos
    @luislealsantos4 ай бұрын

    Thanks for sharing your hard work.

  • @totensiebush
    @totensiebush4 ай бұрын

    12,200hp? that number doesn't sound reasonable to me. Do you mean 1,200?

  • @danioa9414

    @danioa9414

    4 ай бұрын

    2,200

  • @joesutherland225
    @joesutherland2254 ай бұрын

    Always wondered how development of this would have really been.

  • @MrCateagle
    @MrCateagle4 ай бұрын

    Macchi's fighters suffered from high constrution costs due to overly complicated structure.

  • @MrCateagle
    @MrCateagle4 ай бұрын

    Re2005 is a beautiful aircraft that was just too late. Supposedly, there was an effort to sell aome to Sweden, who already operated the Re2000 with engines supplied by Germany but the Germana rwfused to supply them.

  • @user-je5do6jn2f
    @user-je5do6jn2f4 ай бұрын

    And you had a built kit. Noice.

  • @user-je5do6jn2f
    @user-je5do6jn2f4 ай бұрын

    I saw the 1:48 Special Hobby kit box art.

  • @puppetguy8726
    @puppetguy87263 ай бұрын

    1:00 12,200 HP, that's one impressive engine 😅

  • @Diadema033
    @Diadema0334 ай бұрын

    I can only add that the 580 lt capability is wrong, they had about 536 lt (2x160 + 2x108 l, all in the wings). And despite the provisions, no Re.2005 was ever fitted with external tanks.

  • @FurryCruz
    @FurryCruz4 ай бұрын

    Berlin was on the eastern front so that was sort of saying they was used at A or A.

  • @Twirlyhead
    @Twirlyhead4 ай бұрын

    Needs a bubble canopy of course.

  • @jamesdalton2014

    @jamesdalton2014

    4 ай бұрын

    After watching a video about how crappy the Hawker Typhoon was, with one of the reasons being given that it lacked rearward visibility due to the back half of the canopy being metal, it's surprising that all three of these planes are considered to be "good" despite having the same problem. It would have been relatively easy to fix if the Italians weren't already beaten and forced to surrender. The P-47 and P-51 initially had the same flaw and were both fixed without too much trouble.

  • @luigiduca

    @luigiduca

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@jamesdalton2014Actually the rear view in the Italian planes was not bad. Very simply, the hunch behind the pilot's seat was narrower than the canopy and the pilot could look back from the split between canopy and fuselage

  • @totensiebush
    @totensiebush4 ай бұрын

    12.7mm is 50 caliber not 45

  • @THX1138OG
    @THX1138OG4 ай бұрын

    12.7 mm is .5 inch not .45 inch

  • @mimikurtz2162
    @mimikurtz2162Ай бұрын

    This is a bit off-topic, but why did Italian aircraft manufacturers Fiat, Macchi and Reggiane have such similar external designs? For example: Fiat G.55, Macchi C.205, and the Reggiane Re.2005.

  • @drag431
    @drag4314 ай бұрын

    The famous re

  • @DaiElsan
    @DaiElsan4 ай бұрын

    12,000hp engine? Really.

  • @anthonyxuereb792
    @anthonyxuereb7924 ай бұрын

    @1:00 "12,200 hp" he says

  • @johnschools6617
    @johnschools66174 ай бұрын

    12 thousand horsepower? Really?

  • @TheRainblossoms
    @TheRainblossoms4 ай бұрын

    Interesting information on this great plane. The narrator didn't do a good job on the Italian pronunciation tho. And 12,200 horsepower? That seems a pretty obvious mistake.

  • @johannesfeigl5309
    @johannesfeigl53094 ай бұрын

    The next planethat should menrioned is "veltro"translatedgreyhound.

  • @iskandartaib
    @iskandartaib4 ай бұрын

    Sad that the country that gave us Ferrari and Maserati couldn't produce a high powered aero engine.

  • @riccardomariani9648

    @riccardomariani9648

    4 ай бұрын

    Sadly in that time there was only FIAT capable of producing plane engines

  • @iskandartaib

    @iskandartaib

    4 ай бұрын

    @@riccardomariani9648 If you think about it.. there were all those Schneider Cup racers in Italian Red in the mid-1930s...

  • @TyrannoJoris_Rex

    @TyrannoJoris_Rex

    4 ай бұрын

    None of those even have 1000 hp...

  • @iskandartaib

    @iskandartaib

    4 ай бұрын

    @@TyrannoJoris_Rex Seriously? They were competing against the likes of the Supermarine racers, and had to make 350mph plus on the deck, with the added drag of floats...

  • @TyrannoJoris_Rex

    @TyrannoJoris_Rex

    4 ай бұрын

    @@iskandartaib Talking about the cars

  • @buttole
    @buttole2 ай бұрын

    12000 hp???

  • @TyrannoJoris_Rex
    @TyrannoJoris_Rex4 ай бұрын

    If you’re gonna do text to speech, make sure to check for typos and listen to it before you post…

  • @PlaneEncyclopediaYT

    @PlaneEncyclopediaYT

    4 ай бұрын

    Not using AI narrators.

  • @TyrannoJoris_Rex

    @TyrannoJoris_Rex

    4 ай бұрын

    @@PlaneEncyclopediaYT So nobody caught the "12,200 hp engine" at 0:58? Or nobody there knows at 3:06 that 12.7 mm isn't 0.45 inches?

  • @iskandartaib

    @iskandartaib

    4 ай бұрын

    I didn't think this was an AI narration. Haven't come across one that can slip in numeric terms in Italian. 😁

  • @WarblesOnALot

    @WarblesOnALot

    4 ай бұрын

    G'day, Mate, When one is wrong... The "drill" is to cop it sweet. I'm 62, my Country Metrifuckupicated itself on 1/1/1973. In 1972 they taught me in Primary School to think in British Imperial Measurements.... Day one of High School they Expected me to be Fluent in Metrik. To this day, I THINK in Imperial & I Interpolate to know what the MetTrick approximation of Reality..., Actually Claims to be. However, After my own (traumatised) Generation...; Subsequent Kidlets either grew up in Metric, Or they grew up in US-Imperial, where Gallons are 15% undersized & Tons are 240 pounds "Short"... Because... "Marketing Jism Rules, In 'MurriKa !" But, either which way, The average human today ; Is really shithouse at Imperial Metric Interpolation, Written on paper...; Let alone Off the cuff... Just(ifiably ?) sayin'. Have a good one.... Stay safe. Ciao !

  • @AurumVA

    @AurumVA

    4 ай бұрын

    Hey, @tyrannojorisrex535 thanks for watching and for the feedback. I'm the narrator for this video. It does sting a bit that so many people are inclined to assume that my voice isn't real, but I am happy to see so many people engaging nevertheless. I did misspeak "1,200" as "12,200," and I'm kicking myself for not catching that error. In the original recording, however, there was a more prominent concern that perhaps distracted our quality control. Namely, the original script mistakenly had the pronunciation guide in Serbian instead of Italian. I put together a short blooper reel of my struggles in that initial recording: kzread.infoEIbpYQXk4P0?si=Za39IRRt4QTNXyvG

  • @piercer2
    @piercer24 ай бұрын

    Ironic how the once warefare superior Italians had to ask the barbarian Germans for advanced engines 😂

  • @BlackCat-tc2tv
    @BlackCat-tc2tv4 ай бұрын

    George Takei is going to sue whoever used his voice to seed this AI narrator….

  • @PlaneEncyclopediaYT

    @PlaneEncyclopediaYT

    4 ай бұрын

    Not using AI narrators.

  • @AurumVA

    @AurumVA

    4 ай бұрын

    Does my blooper reel lend authenticity to my voice? kzread.infoEIbpYQXk4P0?si=Za39IRRt4QTNXyvG

  • @Nellis202

    @Nellis202

    4 ай бұрын

    George Takei !!!!!!!!!!!! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣 Well it’s really not that funny ‘cause we’re showing our age ! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

  • @stephenmeier4658
    @stephenmeier46584 ай бұрын

    When your AI voice has a man crush on George Takei

  • @AurumVA

    @AurumVA

    4 ай бұрын

    Hello! I'm the voice actor for this video - certainly not an AI, and you can check the short blooper reel on my channel for further evidence of this. Thanks for the comparison to Mr. Takei. :) He has an excellent voice, although it isn't something I've referenced before. My actual reference for a lot of my work is Wes Johnson (particularly his performance as Lucien Lachance).

  • @user-rl9dz1kz2r
    @user-rl9dz1kz2r4 ай бұрын

    Twelve thousand two hundred horsepower? When I hear something so obviously inaccurate ( impossible) in the first moments of a vid, it calls into question the validity of everything that follows, rendering it a waste of time. But that's just me. Enjoy.

  • @edl617
    @edl6174 ай бұрын

    Quit jumping around. Your video not very good

  • @chonqmonk
    @chonqmonk4 ай бұрын

    That's not a very good AI narrator voice. Try something less cartoonish maybe...

  • @AurumVA

    @AurumVA

    4 ай бұрын

    Cartoonish feels a bit harsh, friend. My voice is definitely real, though. kzread.infoEIbpYQXk4P0?si=Za39IRRt4QTNXyvG

  • @handenbramilton

    @handenbramilton

    4 ай бұрын

    only cartoon voices can say the italians made a 12,000 horsepower radial engine and get away with it though

  • @CJArnold-hq3ey
    @CJArnold-hq3ey4 ай бұрын

    Spitfire lookalike copycats

  • @johndyson4109
    @johndyson41094 ай бұрын

    Fiat has made some of the WORST engines in history! Look at what they've done to the Jeep and Chrysler name in the States here. Garbage, garbage, garbadge.... The Yugo engine. Didn't last for 50,000 miles before needed a complete overhaul! Now the Navy is buying Italian Corvette boats.. OMG what is the U.S. Navy thinking!

  • @TyrannoJoris_Rex

    @TyrannoJoris_Rex

    4 ай бұрын

    Jeep and Chrysler were shit well before Fiat took over. Why do you think they got absorbed by Fiat in the first place? Hell, the '73 Oil Crisis only put on full display how dogshit American cars are...

  • @Nellis202

    @Nellis202

    4 ай бұрын

    They’ve also made some of the best !

  • @dayros2023

    @dayros2023

    4 ай бұрын

    It's not corvette, it's frigates, check out the freem. Anyway, a very ignorant comment.

  • @borgoz23

    @borgoz23

    2 ай бұрын

    Quit crying. That's because you can afford only rubbish cars. Low budget and you get what you get. Alfa romeo is very reliable and elegant, Fiat is sturdy and cheap. Lancia,Ferrari, Lamborghini, Maserati,Zonda. Work harder mate and get yourself a proper set of wheels.

  • @TyrannoJoris_Rex

    @TyrannoJoris_Rex

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@borgoz23 1. Work harder at what? 2. Why would I buy a car that costs as much as I can get a house for? 3. Those little Italian cars are fragile and maintenance-heavy, and if somebody crashes me in one, I'm gonna get crushed inside...

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