"Mystery KZreadr" here! Nice vid, man. Seriously, I reckon that Lanshan is outstanding value for money - that was some pretty serious wind we were in. Look forward to the full video of the trip - get cracking, Justin!! 😁👍🏻

@ItsGoodintheWoods

3 жыл бұрын

Very nice of you to help Justin out with the tent failure! Top notch! Awesome camping conditions guys! I have just joined your channel. Cheers

@JustinWhiting9

3 жыл бұрын

International man of mystery....Warrington’s Austin Powers! Yeah baby! I’ve been really busy recently. I’m getting there though 👍

@JustinWhiting9

3 жыл бұрын

It's Good in the Woods - Thanks Justin 👍, you’re the first person to figure out the mystery KZreadr. See Dan, I told you all the good looking clever hikers are called Justin. 😂 ATB, from Justin (W).

@northernmonkeydan1940

3 жыл бұрын

@@ItsGoodintheWoods Always nice to be able to help a fellow outdoors lover out - particularly when it's a true gentleman like Mr Whiting! 👍🏻😄

@northernmonkeydan1940

3 жыл бұрын

@@JustinWhiting9 You did indeed tell me that very thing! 😂👍🏻

Thank you, just what i was looking for concerning the Lanshan 2 performance in strong winds and right next to a Zpack duplex for comparison . excellent video

@JustinWhiting9

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Glad it helped. So far, the L2pro has performed very well for me. Check out my other videos on this tent, some useful ones if you are thinking of buying one. 👍

That seems to be a decent cost effective outdoor product validation /comparison..........with technical explanation.. :-)!.

@JustinWhiting9

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Manju. I was pleased with how the tent performed in that wind. It was really strong in the night. ⛺️

That part hasn't broke on my regular Lanshan or the pro but I do know of others that it has broken. You were lucky there was a mystery camper next to you. It's alway nice to have company while hiking. ATB

@JustinWhiting9

3 жыл бұрын

Hi John, Seems to be a weak point, especially when only 1 door is open. All turned out well though. Mystery hiker to be revealed soon! 😀

Superb Justin. That tent is full of confidence now you know what it can take. Hey, it's gotta be the Northern Monkey. I look forward to the video of your adventure. Me and my mate came off the Wye Valley walk 5 days in because of storm Alex. It was just sheet rain and high winds. We're back out Monday but had a great time. All the best. Mark

@JustinWhiting9

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mark. Yes, I’m glad I got to know the tent really well and did work on improving it. I can trust it now. Northern Monkey eh? Not saying.....spoilers! 😉 Looking forward to your vid.

@WyeExplorer

3 жыл бұрын

@@JustinWhiting9 A pleasure. All good.

Hello, I have this tent and love it, I would like to know if you know where to get the new hooks you used for the door tie downs. I know you said your fellow hiker was the one who gave them to you but just curious if you knew where I could get some. Thanks!

@JustinWhiting9

3 жыл бұрын

Seth Teegarden Hi, yes it’s on the Zpacks website. There may be alternative similar hooks elsewhere though...

Thank you.

@JustinWhiting9

3 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome.

Great wee spot for a pitch! I actually realized I had broken a hook myself, but I immediately replaced it with a small carabiner I had handy, When I got home I replaced the other side with a similar carabiner and same on the L1... much easier to slip on too! That was a low pitch, what height were the treking poles out of interest? atb Sinco

@JustinWhiting9

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Sinco, it was a wild night! I have marks on my poles at 120cm and was lower than that, maybe 115cm. It was crazy to see the pole springs going up and down whilst lying there! The tent does look cool that low doesn't it?! Like some kind of funky spaceship! 😂

Would you say that the Lanshan 2 is a great tent for someone that might get out 3-4 times per summer? I'm looking forward to the upcoming bikepacking season!

@JustinWhiting9

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, certainly. Check out my other videos testing the tent and camping in it 👍 Good luck

Thanks. Any idea roughly of the wind speed you experienced ?

@JustinWhiting9

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry Gordon, I don’t have a wind meter. In my technical opinion, I would say it was ‘blow-your-socks-off’ strong! 🌬 😉

Great comparison on windy conditions. I go to Iceland in two weeks and still don't know what tent to choose. We chat with you Justin on Sebastian's channel about Lanshan 2 Pro. But I want to ask more questions for you without trashing Seb's comments section if you don't mind. I watched Scott Cameron Wanstall channel, where the guy took Lanshan 2 non-pro version (but still the same type tent) on the peaks of Scottland mountains and it tore apart. It looks like the pro version has 20D though, instead of 15D like Scott's tent. So I have few questions: 1. Do you use a groundsheet? If so, what type? I have my first SilNylon tent and the ground material "feels" so fragile to me. 2. Do you know any EU or UK sellers to change that ram-shaped buckle? 3. If you watched Scot's video about that tear, do you think it tore just accidentally? I kinda feel that he had a scratch first on the tent. Sad, that rip-stop did not stop the tearing though. 4. What do you think about the hooks inside the tent near the pole inserts (where some people make the socks or t-shirts hanger). If I would fasten those with the guyline, then it would perhaps prevent both poles to stretch the material and prevent the possibility of tear in the middle? 5. Would you use the tent in Iceland, would you prefer a rather sturdier tent for such a trip?

@JustinWhiting9

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Edvardas, I will try to answer your questions..... 1 - I don't use a groundsheet but I never had a problem. You can buy Lanshan groundsheet separately. Hard rocky or gravel surfaces (like Iceland) or sharp spiky wood or plants could be a problem though. Groundsheet adds weight so I carry a small repair patch and some gorilla tape on my walking poles. 2 - My metal ram-hooks came from Zpacks in USA. Sorry, I don't know an UK/EU supplier. 3 - I never saw that video, although flysheet material between L2 and L2pro is different, so I can't say. 4 - I use the internal hooks for a drying line. Yes, you could tie a guy line between if you want. 5 - The biggest factor is location of camp site. If you can find shelter it will help. If no shelter possible, then it is a risk. I think Iceland is very exposed looking at Seb's video. Hope that helps!

@edamusis

3 жыл бұрын

@@JustinWhiting9 Thanks for your answers ;)

Hi Justin where can I find the metal replacement clips for the lanshan tent door please

@JustinWhiting9

3 жыл бұрын

Hi, link in description plus see some of the other comments. 👍

Which height your hiking poles need to be adjusted? Or, can I also use 125cm ones?

@JustinWhiting9

2 жыл бұрын

I find 125cm makes it really hard to stretch over the poles. I usually go for 115-120cm depending on the pitch. A good way is to pitch with shorter poles then extend them up a little afterwards. That’s possible. 👍 PS - You’ve nearly got the magic 1000 subs, good luck man!

@hinrichfuchs

2 жыл бұрын

@@JustinWhiting9 That means for me, I even can´t use my normal hiking poles :-( Or, at least, need some which are adjustable.

@JustinWhiting9

2 жыл бұрын

@@hinrichfuchs adjustable hiking poles are recommended for this tent to get the best ventilation in different conditions 👍

where do you go to the toilet in this area? (say maybe there are 2 more tents from other people hiking as well..)

@JustinWhiting9

2 жыл бұрын

You dig a hole and fill it in afterwards

You Tuber ‘Gone Hiking’ has one of those Duplex tents. We met on the coast to coast and shared part of the trail together. Great guy and his channel is excellent 👍💥

@JustinWhiting9

3 жыл бұрын

Nice one GW 👍 If it wasn’t so expensive I’d buy one myself. However, the L2Pro is shaping up well so far for about a sixth of the price. ⛺️

@guerrierweg

3 жыл бұрын

Justin Whiting I like my Lanshan 1. If the quality of the 2 is as good, plus the extra room (only drawback of the 1 is its internal size - I’m six foot), then you’re on to a bargain!

@JustinWhiting9

3 жыл бұрын

Not sure if we’ve discussed this before but both the L1pro and L2pro are both about 30cm longer than the original L1 and L2. That was a deciding factor for me. I’m 6’1” and there is loads of head and foot room. 👍 I wouldn’t mind trying the L1pro.

@guerrierweg

3 жыл бұрын

Justin Whiting the extra length would be nice but I think having the extra headroom across the width of the tent would be the biggest advantage. I’ll have to try the L2Pro!

By the way, in the area of the tent ridge(where the stick rests on the awning), there are additional attachment points outside(of course) the awning for additional braces, in case of strong wind. The mount should be made in two directions diagonally, if you do not know which side the wind will be from, but the area is subject to frequent and strong winds, and fasten from the wind side, if you know what winds are blowing in this area. There are 2 mounting places: on the side of each entrance, there are 4 slings in total and 4 additional stakes, respectively.The loop (in the form of a ribbon) is red-white-red on my tent.

@JustinWhiting9

3 жыл бұрын

You're right Alex, there are some additional tie out points, but I didn't get extra guy lines or pegs with my tent so I'll have to look into that. I am very pleased with the performance of my L2pro so far. Check out my other vids on it, plus all the useful tips in the comments. Cheers! 🍺 Justin

@alexbell5012

3 жыл бұрын

@@JustinWhiting9 Dear bro)! I drank a whole can of Faxe beer while I was translating your answer through Google. I'm glad I could help you in some way. I am happy with your videos, because I see beautiful places in England there and because I can learn English from these videos. Thanks. By the way, the sound of English and American are very very, very different) 👍 the tower of Babel is going again, and soon it will be built and soon we will all speak the same language, but this is not for long my brother. Everything will end one day and a new round of history will begin.... People don't learn anything. Unfortunately. Fack it. Good lack, bro!

@alexbell5012

3 жыл бұрын

@@JustinWhiting9 In fact, people will continue to speak English in the future, but the very idea of social transformation is embedded in the progress of the universe itself, so everything will be very iterative.

@alexbell5012

3 жыл бұрын

@@JustinWhiting9 asura - altered state.

@JustinWhiting9

3 жыл бұрын

Very different, oh yes, American, Australian, New Zealand, Canada, Jamaica, South Africa, all distinctive accents. 👍

Lanshan is awesome tent. My one stand pretty strong winds in Dartmoor in 2018. I am still happy owner. I have it sins 2017 and I still love it. Only one downside of mine is it’s colour. When I was buying there was only 2 colours to choose. Mine is white.

@JustinWhiting9

3 жыл бұрын

Good to hear! 👍

@tamie341

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I love that green color

Anyone know a uk source for the metal hooks? Can buy them direct from Z packs but it's $30 postage

@JustinWhiting9

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry, I haven't heard of one in the UK yet Andy.

@edamusis

3 жыл бұрын

In my case I am thinking about very small carabiner. It will be light enough for some trips until I get mine from ZPacks.

@JustinWhiting9

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, a small caribiner will work in the short term. You can also keep it in the small pocket inside the tent as a backup spare.

The plastic ram's horns on the door are an arsey joke. Replace both with some shock-cord and a couple of pegs, adding a whole lot more utility to the tent for an additional 25 grams to the overall weight.

@JustinWhiting9

Жыл бұрын

Fair enough. I’m happy with the metal hooks. 👍

Where I can buy this door hook? does anyone know? Special thanks.

@JustinWhiting9

3 жыл бұрын

Blackwood Outdoor Hi, yes it’s on the Zpacks website. There may be alternative hooks elsewhere....

Those double hook apparatus for the doors are surprisingly hard to buy in the UK (yeah sure you can buy on zpacks site but then there's extortionate shipping cost). And there doesn't seem to be any obvious alternatives to buy in the UK. Would love to be proved wrong as I'm looking but no luck so far, only options suggested seem to be more serious DIY mods rather than a swap out.

@JustinWhiting9

3 жыл бұрын

You're right. My mate Dan already had some spares from Zpacks (US). I haven't found similar hooks yet in the UK.

@ashmaybe9634

3 жыл бұрын

I'm thinking of using a small metal karabiner, something like the niteize. That must be strong enough.

@JustinWhiting9

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that would work

Planning on thru hiking the Kungsleden next year .. the lanshan 2 pro will probably be the tent of choice.. what do you reckon?

@JustinWhiting9

2 жыл бұрын

Never heard of Kungsleden but L2pro is a great lightweight hiker’s tent 👍

@jeroenbrink4710

2 жыл бұрын

@@JustinWhiting9 wow that’s a quick response!! Thanks 🙏🏻 Kungsleden is a 450 km long trail in nordern Sweden. With a substantial part inside of the Nordic circle. There al lots of great vids about it on YT Cheers Jeroen from Holland 🇳🇱

@JustinWhiting9

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Jeroen 👋 So far north can mean very cold and harsh weather. You may want a stronger, more robust tent for such conditions. It’s your choice of course. Good luck 🤞 Please subscribe my friend! 😉 Cheers, Justin

Hello, bro! How much do I guess this is Scotland? Beautiful place, especially the mist on the tops of hills. Set up the tent with the edge of the awning. The night wind coming from the cliffs at the rock, the night wind goes to sea(if there is no cold currents near the surface, if there is, in winter, sea in summer from the sea) in the sea. Study the wind rose of the area. Use the natural folds of the terrain.

@JustinWhiting9

3 жыл бұрын

Alex Bell 👍 Hi Alex, sounds like you know more about wind than me. Good field advice there. It was at Sty Head Tarn, Lake District, England, not Scotland, but I love both! All the best man. Justin. 😀

Anyone found anything to supplement the weak plastic ram horn clips that break yet, that are more easily available in the UK ?

@JustinWhiting9

3 жыл бұрын

Personally not yet, but other people have asked the same question. Tips for UK tenters gratefully received!

@ashmaybe9634

2 жыл бұрын

I bought some tiny metal karabiners from ebay, weigh nothing. Put two on each side and left the plastic rams horn in place for redundancy.

May get out an old wire coathanger, cut a length to size and form my own after seeing that! Like a U shape but with horns...

@JustinWhiting9

3 жыл бұрын

Aye Pete, you could definitely fashion something like that as a back-up spare to carry. If you do, make sure you file down the sharp edges very well or it might just cut your tent material to ribbons!

I'm like everyone else, where can I get some of those Metal tieouts? They look nice! Someone mentioned making some from coat hanger wire! I'll look into that. Nylon coated bungee (paracord) is available in different strengths...

@JustinWhiting9

3 ай бұрын

Hi, link in description from Zpacks website in US but not cheap!

Jesus what hight was them poles set at mate can you remember ?

@JustinWhiting9

7 ай бұрын

It was a wild night! I have marks on my poles at 120cm and I set it lower that night, maybe 115cm. It was crazy to see the pole springs going up and down whilst lying inside! The L2pro looks cool pitched low doesn't it?

Nice landscape... any possible crocodile come out from that lake at night?

@JustinWhiting9

3 жыл бұрын

No crocs, but maybe the odd sheep or lost hiker!

Are you familiar with the Flames Creed version of this same tent? costs $50 less and people claim it's the same thing just slapped with another logo. Is this true?

@JustinWhiting9

2 жыл бұрын

You asked me the same question a couple of days ago LOL! Did you see my answer? Yes, it’s exactly the same tent.

@Sir-Kay

2 жыл бұрын

@@JustinWhiting9 Opps! my bad, or maybe because I'm finding it hard to logically believe they're the same as the Flame's Creed cost $50 less for the same tent, I mean, we both know when something is cheaper, there are always corners cut on built quality, or am I wrong?

@JustinWhiting9

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a good deal

bummer on the breakage.....I'm going to have to get some of those clips....I now anticipate a breakage in my future....Those are good conditions to see what the equipment can handle! Well done Justin ! Cheers friend

@JustinWhiting9

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man! 👍 The morning footage was mild. The wind was mental in the night. I had earplugs in and a beanie over my ears and it was like being rock gig all night. In a bad way. It pulled 2 of those those medium sized rocks off the pegs and the fly sheet was slapping me around the face! I don’t blame the tent though. I set it up the wrong way, that’s why I took the time to explain with a bit of voiceover (and 1980’s graphics) rather than just criticise the gear (which I didn’t). I think it’s only fair in this case. The spare metal hooks are on Zpacks website but I guess others are available elsewhere. 🍺 Justin.

@jonsanford2515

3 жыл бұрын

Zpacks sells the hooks for about $3US. I bought a couple to replace the plastic hooks on my Lanshan. The shape is easier to use even without the added strength.

@JustinWhiting9

3 жыл бұрын

Jon Sanford I agree, easier to hook on. The plastic one was a pain especially in wind and rain and dark with cold fingers.....

Budget Nice Lanshan2pro tent

I don't think that door guying clip/hook is much kop either - as a Lanshan 1 Pro user (same door arrangement but only the one door) this is even more of a potential weak point, because there is less support on the door side of the tent than the back side. I've overcome this by attaching an extra guy (using a toggle) into that apex exterior hanging loop (you have two on your Lanshan 2) which pegs down in front of the door guys, and takes much of the load from them - at 10g (per guy) this adds a lot of stability to the tent.

@JustinWhiting9

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, an extra guy would be handy in windy conditions.

Arg bro that was sweet looks pretty good pitched low like that! How would you rate the tent against the duplex? And how would you rate the duplex after seeing used close up? How fast was the wind bro? I had a good wind experience 65-70 mph in storm Ellen down in the Jurassic coast I had a vango cairngorm 300 was checking wheather reports as my son slept next to me was up to 50mph then after that was like a plane jet going off next to me lol smashed my tent! Calmed down after a couple of hours down to about 40mph did a little tinkering to keep us safe and dry I reckon with a few extra guys and carbon poles would of survived. recorded wind speed was over 73mph lol it’s always when I got the nipper with me! Ps the tent never leaked one bit ! Amazing!

@JustinWhiting9

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a wild night with your lad! 👍 Your tent did very well. I really can't comment on the Duplex not having used one, but it's weight is attractive. The L2pro is light at 1050g but the Duplex is amazing at about 600g. The Duplex fabric is fantastic, however, it costs about 5 times more, so the L2pro is pretty good value for money. I don't know what the wind speed was in my video, but in my technical opinion, it was blow-your-socks-off strong! 😂 The springs were going up and down on my walking poles holding the tent up. It was mental. I put rocks on all tent pegs but 2 pegs came out in the night and the flysheet gave me a good slapping round the face. Had to get out, re-peg, add extra rocks. That shot in the video in the morning of the tent straining was mild compared to in the night. Anyway, the tent performed well and the 2 pegs and broken door hook were my fault really. I'm chuffed with it. 👍 Justin.

@edcrosshair

3 жыл бұрын

@@JustinWhiting9 well you canni fault that bru... a lot of people say trekker pole tents are stronger than normal but I spoze it’s only experience that can tell the real truths but great vid any how’s 8)

You could have put wind guylines from the loop's on top of the fly above the poles

@JustinWhiting9

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, that would help. 👍

Good.

@JustinWhiting9

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

Fancy hooks replace with mini carabiner ?? Ultra-ultra-light seem to just use dyneema rope with knots.

@JustinWhiting9

3 жыл бұрын

maybe

@ashmaybe9634

2 жыл бұрын

Small soft shackle would work with the dyneema.

Subscribing for the surname 👌

@JustinWhiting9

2 ай бұрын

Why not Mr Whiting? You have a fantastic surname 😂

Which seriously shows why side panel pull-outs should be separate from the skirt pegging point, and as far away as is reasonable, with their own cord. And pegs only pull out if not angled correctly ie. fairly acute to the ground, never nearly upright. It's geometry. Yet I see this so often, even with 'experienced' backpackers... Again, Justin, sincere words, not criticism as such, more critique! Otherwise, I like that tent! When Lanshan started out some years ago they made REALLY cheap tents. Now they have made numerous improvements and mods etc they are creeping up in price. Which goes to show that the price of tents is all in the design, and that even expensive materials aren't what make a tent that much more expensive than real cheapies. My only thing with these cheap/er tents is - how long will they last, by which I mean, how many times would you use one in really harsh conditions, and for how many years, before you start to have concerns about their integrity...? I have a number of tents of this type, one very much like the Lanshan, silicon coat on the outside, PU inside, and after only maybe a dozen trips out I can see stress and wear points looking, well, more than a little stressed. That is where materials and design really matter. I would love to know how your tent is looking a couple of years and many wind-battered nights out in the wilds. That, for me, is why I inevitably end up carrying a little more weight in order to use a tent of slightly more robust construction, using slightly more robust materials, and which I would still trust after hundreds of nights out. My favourite tent of all time was £384 in 1995!!! (around £800 for the current iteration) Used at the very least on 400 nights, probably many more in fact, and often in terrible conditions, I still trust it over 25 years later. The price penalty becomes an advantage in the end. My Aluxe Twin Peak looks pretty stressed after just a couple of years, and I wouldn't even trust another 'mid tent after just a few trips. That's the rub. Yet I LOVE these cheap Chhinese jobbies, hard to resist. In fact, it is you who is making me look into buying one now!! Cheers Justin.

@JustinWhiting9

3 жыл бұрын

You’re right Bob, I’m a mechanical engineer so I understand the geometry. On that night, however, I was getting battered by the wind and just put the tent up quick without it blowing away. No chance for fine tuning a perfect pitch. All the pegs were in as horizontal as possible with rocks on top, and it still pulled a couple out. I’m not looking to camp in those conditions often and not for hundreds of nights. I am primarily a long distance 3-season hiker, so weight is important to me. At £100 and 1050g this spacious tent is perfect for my needs. After only about 8 wild camps it’s paid for itself in my book. 👍 Justin

would be nice make a video about "perfect pitch" for your lanshan 2.

@JustinWhiting9

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Igor, I think I've done enough L2pro videos now!

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@JustinWhiting9

3 жыл бұрын

It was an unplanned video on a separate trip. The wind was so strong I filmed a few shots and only thought of a ‘high wind’ vid when I got home. Seemed to work ok for a short vid. Suppose I could have done a closing piece to camera at home but didn’t bother.