Mj played in the big man era, that’s why he is the goat. Because he dominated as a guard

@sonnyallagonez5776

Ай бұрын

Straight Facts!

@chenglim1087

Ай бұрын

with hard fouls that considered as flagrant and for ejection in this era. But he never ever cried and instead shaped his body to be able to take the dirty blows in the paint. While LBJ always tried to flop.

@cheezezlayer493

Ай бұрын

yeah players are deep into their roles unlike today they destroy the game everyone shots and not much defense

@Mike1122.

Ай бұрын

Kobe also played in the big man era, 1996-2010.

@angiechagani5181

Ай бұрын

@@Mike1122. Kobe played with the arguably the best big man ever and then Paul after, another top 3 big in the league at that time.

All hoopers call Mike the 🐐 only a non hooper thinks anyone is better than Mike

@TheHiphop98

Ай бұрын

Not true it's never a all that's why the D riding has to stop

@coachbighead

Ай бұрын

Endorsement my boy ..

@cheezezlayer493

Ай бұрын

@@coachbighead Thats facts All Hoopers call Mike the Goat even AI telling that for years even Kobe T-mac and Vince Carter etc. and non hooper says Mike is better than everyone based on what they watched and experience during his game

@keithen8708

Ай бұрын

FACTS

@lotuslife3239

Ай бұрын

That's cause all hoopers play a sort of Jordan like game. Everyone wanna be like Mike cause no one can be like Wilt

Jordan the most TALENTED PLAYER ever.

@TheDocmike23

Ай бұрын

Most skilled player ever

@user-jo2kd3dp8m

Ай бұрын

Kobe most skilled ever

@Bighjr88

Ай бұрын

@@user-jo2kd3dp8m Bruce Li could never be better than Bruce lee

@TheDocmike23

Ай бұрын

@@Bighjr88 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤝🤝🤝🤝 thank YOU

@Mike1122.

Ай бұрын

Kobe was the most talent player ever, he came off the bench for 2 years, was hurt 2 years and still scored over 33600 points. Name me another player who has done that in NBA history. You can’t!

Ima just say this..3 peat..retires to play a whole different sport..another 3 peat..6-0 in NBA finals..I'm not even talking about his other stats..stop playing! His mystique alone is far beyond any of his peers..shout out MJ the GOAT 🐐 frfr.

@anthonylopez9777

Ай бұрын

Exactly! Who has ever done that when the taste of winning just isn’t the same so you just change your career 😂

@williamgodfrey8998

Ай бұрын

With the refs on his team

@Mike1122.

Ай бұрын

@@anthonylopez9777Bill Russell and all those Celtics teams did a 3 peat. The Lakers and Kobe did a 3 peat. It’s not an achievement that has never been done before.

@anthonylopez9777

Ай бұрын

@@Mike1122. yeah but I’m getting at changing your career and then coming back to do it again. Haven’t seen that ever happened. I know the bulls ain’t the only team to 3 peat

@Youarelovewalk

Ай бұрын

Basically

I despised MJ since I've bled purple & gold since Magic's rookie season. But without hesitation I can say he's the best my 20/20 vision has ever witnessed. Black Jesus had zero weaknesses. His mental was maniacal of killers in serial. He had impeccable fundamentals. And the athleticism raw as clapped cheeks with no jim hats. Pertaining to Sheed - today he'd be scary as Cardi B make-up free. He could stretch defenses, get buckets with back to bucket in low-post and he could defend with that Rodan over conquered land wingspan.

@arnecruz

Ай бұрын

Same here. Even rooted for the Bad Boys against the Bulls. But nobody is better than Mike.

@jonathanvelasquez4317

Ай бұрын

Hands down this was the greatest thing i read today.

@jamesdyer3507

29 күн бұрын

100% What you just said is how a KNOWLEGEABLE fan should say... I love Magic or Lebron BUT, I have an "EYE TEST" and I know a true baller when I see one. This does not take away from the others who were/are great but someone will always be better. As a baller you know who can REALLY hoop. And MJ can hoop.

@howardhollis3533

19 күн бұрын

I think we all waiting for someone to come in and just be just as exciting to watch like Mike. To make the NBA watchable again. I mean when ever you watched MJ, you never knew what he was going to do but you didn't want to miss it... I guess that's the only way to put it. Kobe is a great player. LeBron is, I guess. I wished he'd just be himself but he took busy trying to dethrone MJ. That window closed long ago. Play as long as you like.

@katrinachavez3533

19 күн бұрын

@@howardhollis3533 Man, the wifey and I were just talking about that this morning. Of how desperate the Association is for another MJ. The ratings were at their peak when MJ played. Even the casuals tuned in to watch that alien. The guy was electrifying. I watched him a few times in person and the buzz in the arena was like nothing I had ever witnessed. Closest thing was watching Tyson in person in Atlantic City vs Spinks. In my opinion the window for Bron was snugly shut after that Chernobyl reactor size meltdown in 2011 NBA Finals when he was outplayed by a low-fueled jet of a role player. Against an inferior foe. In 4th quarters Bron choked like Spree did Carlesimo.

When jordan was moved to pg, he had 10 out 11 games with a triple dub with 7 straight. Also has the 2nd highest finals avg for assist per game for a series, only behind buck.

@jennyarriola9831

6 күн бұрын

Played 24 games as pg, averaged 31 ppg/9 rpg/11 apg.

Jordan > Kobe > LeBron

@coldOFF1201

Ай бұрын

In that order RIP Mamba

@gregoryphillips3969

Ай бұрын

Perfect.

@ckyung1312

Ай бұрын

Duncan > LeBoink

@wisdomenake242

Ай бұрын

Lies Jordan > James > Kobe

@jermaineogarro2124

29 күн бұрын

​@@wisdomenake242James don't belong in the convo period

I wish the hosts would stop interrupting so damn much.

Kobe era was crazy tmac vc A.i Steve Francis shaq Sheed Wallace K.G Paul peirce Tim Duncan Tony Parker Steve Nash that era was crazy

@Getloose360

Ай бұрын

G. Hill, Penny, Dream, Shaq, GP, Kemp, Stockton, Malone, Pat Ewing, KG, Robinson, Drexler, Mullin, Sprewell, Tim Hardaway, Zoe, LG, Kevin Johnson, Chuck and Reggie Miller were no slouches.

@TruthSerum99-zq9fi

Ай бұрын

Jordan won championships with half the players on your list being in the league. 🤣🤣

@airmaxair-max4993

Ай бұрын

They talk about Jordan's competition but if kobe or lebron went thru a stretch where they were beating EVRYBODY. Where nobody was eatin....their competition wouldn't look as daunting as ppl pump up. Jordan was the boogeyman. U win when he leaves.

@Mike1122.

Ай бұрын

@@Getloose360Shaq was dominate in Kobe’s era 2000,2001,2002,2003,2004,2005,2006. Dirk, Yao, Artest, etc. Kobe era was tough as well as MJs.

@noleyestoad4477

Ай бұрын

@@Getloose360 way more than that but he got the point! these youngins have no idea how great sports was in the 80s and 90s! sports has become so soft that we really talking about rookie WNBA players gettin pushed when weve seen way worse in sports! its about sensationalizing a story it aint about the sports anymore! thats why they hyping up this soft era

MJ is universally considered the GOAT of Basketball and maybe all team sports.

Much Respect to Lamar Odom 🫡✊🏾 I appreciate the Real being spoken

It’s so low iq to say Lebron makes everyone better…if that was the case he would have more championships than MJ.

@Joshdifferent

Ай бұрын

Not true. MJ had the triangle office. So did Kobe.

@tresav4247

Ай бұрын

@@Joshdifferentlebron can’t play triangle offense cause he can’t score everyway kick out n drive

@TruthSerum99-zq9fi

Ай бұрын

​@@JoshdifferentBron has teamed up with enough superstars to fill an all-star roster and still can't turn a team into a DYNASTY. Maaan FOH 😭

@tharealjuice9730

Ай бұрын

@@Joshdifferentstop putting the triangle offense on a pedestal!! Lebron couldn’t be coached to learn the triangle because he know more than everyone in the league!! All y’all Lebum fans do is just make excuses all the time.. now think of another excuse!!

@toolegit7668

Ай бұрын

Literally the only player whose numbers went up playing with Lebron was Kyrie. And that's because Kyrie was in his 3rd year everyone's numbers go up from their rookie season. Everyone else numbers go down actually

I wish Odom would have went through the rosters jordan went through. How many hall of famers did he STOP from NEVER winning a ring when he was winning. Nobody else could win when mike started winning and how difficult it was that he made look easy he never lost or went to a game 7. Reggie Charles Ewing Drexler Kemp Payton Karl Stockton Penny The list goes on and on

I'm sorry, but Lamar's take is insane! SNEAKERS!!!?? How about Mike is better because he was the foundational piece for the greatest basketball dynasty since Russell? Took Chicago from a basement dweller to the most watched franchise in NBA history, while having more regular season MVPs than Kobe and LeBron combined, and the same amount of Finals MVPs as Kobe and LeBron combined?

@snezakovic

26 күн бұрын

Preach brother ! This facts alone throw all the arguments in the water

@jlui21

16 күн бұрын

-- lol, i will defend Lamar on this Sneaker take. OFC MVPs and Chips mean way more in defining the GOAT. But the x-factor in the GOAT debate? Sneakers. MJ made $330M in ONE year. Why? Bc MJ is the GOAT (not b/c of his sneakers. The sneakers are symptom of his greatness).

Like shut up and let the man talk. He’s an NBA champion and successful NBA player and you’re out there acting like it’s some yahoo in the barbershop

People talk about Michael Jordan's competition like they weren't winning 60+ games...

Charles Barkley & Karl Malone got MVP in a MJ Championship year And Magic got an MVP when MJ was the way better player that year So there was obviously players on MJs level MJ took it personal and became greater than the MVP of those years

@Dre_Key

Ай бұрын

He got finals mvp over all of em too

@KrispyKleenex365

Ай бұрын

@@Dre_Key 🫡✊🏾

@curtis0074

Ай бұрын

Dude trying to discredit Jordan greatness by using the lame argument of competition....man that is disrespectful ...his competition Bird Dominique Magic Kareem Bad Boys Pistons Drexler Barkley Ewing, Hakeem, Robinson, Shaq, Penny, Tim Hardaway, Kareem, Parish, Mchale, Mullin, Mitch Richmond, Worthy, Malone, Stockton, Kemp, Payton , Miller, Malone, Mutombo, Mourning, Dennis Johnson, Grant Hill, etc...and so many more...

@curtis0074

Ай бұрын

I agree with you 💯

@KrispyKleenex365

Ай бұрын

@@curtis0074 you are absolutely correct Past generations always getting discredited just to boost more current players or childhood favorites If MJ and all those you mentioned were in todays era they wouldnt be looking at them in the same way In a 3pt era any player prior to 2000 is looked at with an asterisk it seems

The competition back in the 80s-90s was just as hard if not harder than it is today. I'm 46 years old and I lived it and witnessed it. I'm not some 20 something who just started watching basketball in 05. I've been watching basketball since 86-87 so I'm speaking facts not opinion. I'm not biased towards my era either because I don't really care. I know how great the NBA was and I know how great it is today. Since I experienced both I can say that some of the players back then would be max contract players today

Kobe and LeBron played way more games than Jordan and still accomplished less

@Mike1122.

Ай бұрын

All MJ has on Kobe is More MVP’s a D player of the year award and 1 more ring. Kobe has him in all other statistical categories, points, rebounds, and assists, and Lebron does as well. Kobe didn’t play that many more games than MJ, 274 games to be exact.

@pureblack3363

Ай бұрын

@@Mike1122. Jordan even retired more times than Kobe😂😂😂

@pureblack3363

Ай бұрын

@@Mike1122. That's over 3 seasons worth of games bro that's a lot

@josephwinslow7613

27 күн бұрын

Michael Jordan had Scottie Pippin.

@pureblack3363

27 күн бұрын

@@josephwinslow7613 What basketball player don't have teammates?

Can we get a pause on that comment but back to Lamar talking about basketball. Hes absolutely right about the shoe impact. As the shoe is the legacy and Jordan's legacy lives through his brand and its been almost 40 years of sheer dominance in the game that his brand is bigger then almost Nike itself, For example his logo on the NBA jerseys and multiple Jordan athletes. It speaks volumes about how he is still seen and respected.

@frankiedavissr8690

Күн бұрын

❤️❤️🙏🏾

Casuals trying to bring down MJs competition are lame af

Btw the 1st Jordan’s were $69.99 in 85.

@at1212b

Ай бұрын

He referred to 1988.

@earldapearl7333

27 күн бұрын

$64.99

@earldapearl7333

27 күн бұрын

In 1985

There is no Black Mamba without MJ. -Kobe Bryant

@ayeooh4412

Ай бұрын

Correction…there’s no Black Mamba without Black cat.

Lamar said u buggin lol when Kobe said he’s better than mike! lol

@user-be7tc2bd6e

Ай бұрын

I agree with Lamar,I've always thought Mike was better than Kobe.

@YoungMaster_626

Ай бұрын

You slow bro ? That’s what Kobe said to him you dummy lol

@YoungMaster_626

Ай бұрын

@Gorillajawzhe’s that good , and shits on Lebum

@at1212b

Ай бұрын

​@Gorillajawz when you're competing, you gotta have that mindset. Only after did he give MJ his real props. He knows how hard it is to to lead the league in scoring let alone win a championship in the same season (never done it).

@omarlopes5762

Ай бұрын

Because he is better than Michael Jordan Kobe Bryant is the best NBA skilled player ever

Stupid kids thinking the 80s and the 90s players are trash. Yet 2 dominating players today, Luka and Jokic, are like the 80s and the 90s. Players then may not be as athletic as today, but they are definitely smarter. Just as Lamar explained the pick and roll today.

Ak.. just talk hip hop.. you lost me when you said Jordan had no competition!!! Lebron will never an I mean never be on Jordan’s level period. Jordan is the greatest winner ever, lebron is the greatest whiner ever complete difference.. lebron has the most turnovers in NBA HISTORY!!!! Please talk about this.. without any excuses..

@curtis0074

Ай бұрын

I swear AK sound real stupid....have he ever heard of Bad boys Pistons? Magic ,Kareem and Worthy Lakers, Bird ,Parish Mchale Celtics....Barkley, Malone, Stockton, Drexler, Miller, Kemp Payton, Shaq, Ewing, Robinson, Hakeem? The dude, sounds like he just started watching NBA

@samuraijack10

Ай бұрын

Another stat is LeBron is about to have the most missed shots along with those turnovers this coming season

@deeed4902

Ай бұрын

Not to mention his stat patted final years in Cleveland.

@aaporter1028

Ай бұрын

To say he has no chance to be on his level is crazy bias .. it’s clear you only factor in wins …and if that’s the case bill Russell is the best winner dummy

@melvinhhcp3615

13 күн бұрын

​@@aaporter1028Russell played on superteams his entire career. They didn't even need him to score points.

90s era has the most top 75 players. Wtf are they talking about competition level. It was harder back then. Mj just made it look easy

Ak with the typical casual comebacks. Can’t knock Jordan so they attack his era and “competition”. Lebron still has lost with super teams in the most weakest defensive era ever. And another Euro plumber may win the chip in a few weeks.

is this an interview or a debate? Let the basketball player talk

This isn't even a debate. Kobe tried to do everything like Mike. Jordan is so much greater Kobe didn't even try to be himself.... plus Jordan was just better at literally everything basketball related

@javorisborden24

Ай бұрын

lol he came in the league at 18… damn near every player says they wanted to be MJ… Jordan went to college 🤦🏽‍♂️

@Boss3Nate

Ай бұрын

@@javorisborden24 not literally tho. Ugh face palm yet again

@albgamin410

Ай бұрын

Facts

@javorisborden24

Ай бұрын

@@Boss3Nate you never played sports then, we know you a fanboy

@Boss3Nate

Ай бұрын

@@javorisborden24 I never played sports bc I think Jordan was better than Kobe..? Hahahahahahahaha... Oh no...not a fanboy. Next thing you know I'll be a casual too... and to think you had to go back and edit that sentence.

Crazy how non pros talk about competition, I.e., skill level of former pros…like the players from the 80s & 90s weren’t p,aging ball at a high level. Odom, as a great player, respects former great players.

I still want somebody to name a player that lebum “made better”

@LuvnAries23

Ай бұрын

They can't tell you. It's a narrative his media friend out there to boost him in the goat debate.

@javorisborden24

Ай бұрын

@@LuvnAries23 exactly, players actually got better once the got from under his shadow

@demarquisjohnson5697

Ай бұрын

Everyone on the Cavs that he carried to the Finals!

@jermo1213

Ай бұрын

​@@demarquisjohnson5697and only won one game on those two Finals in 07 and 2018. Other finals he had stacked squads and still lost 4 finals.

@sonnyhuynh007

Ай бұрын

His argument is acid 9. It's hereditary!? Curry brother is not all that. Sneaker determined the best player!? 😅

Many of today's basketball players would not be known 25 years from now by a new generation of fans. They would think that Lebron, KD, Jokic and Kobe were the best players competing against each other. Many other great players would be forgotten. That's what happened during MJ's time. Many NBA fans today think that MJ had less competition.

@at1212b

Ай бұрын

Harden, Westbrook, Nash, Carmelo, Dwight, already forgotten. Future fans will say the league in 2000s/2010s was watered down.

Lamar Odom says they play Basketball wrong Kobe & Phil say they play accidental basketball 🤔 how interesting

Jordan change the way ppl dribble and move on the court

Props for the interview. The mic volume is so low

Honestly, I saw all three guys play. Guys didn't look that good during Jordan's run because he was just so much better then everyone else. Not even close. That's why it's so funny when they have the Jordan vs Bron debate. If you merged Kawhi and Westbrook together you would have MJ.

@SiriusV21

28 күн бұрын

Westbrook 😂?

Yoo you need to let your guest talk bro. You can’t ask them a question then cut them off. The audience wants to hear them not you.💯

It’s more top 75 players from MJ era…case closed about competition!

The dudes that Kobe and LeBron played against would be in the D league in Jordan day

gotta improve the audio man. Thanks for the content

Who is the white guy.. tell him to shut up

@Vash3557

Ай бұрын

fr

@Swole_Geek

Ай бұрын

😂

@RooskiDash

Ай бұрын

No bap 😂

@user-be7tc2bd6e

Ай бұрын

I wish that black dude would stop interrupting Odom and let him speak.

@user-kb2te3ex6j

Ай бұрын

@@user-be7tc2bd6e it’s his show, and besides Odom he’s the only RELEVANT person I see 🥱

Ak! Shut up and let me talk!

6:23 2x NBA Champion Lamar Odom, and in this episode, an historian. ✊

You can tell Lamar a head😂😂

RIP on that Lamar 🙏🏾

The deeper you dig into MJ’s career, the more impressive it gets. The opposite is true for Lebron…

Odom’s goat has finesse, beauty and grace and it just so happened is the best 😂

Lamar is High AF

Only some one who know the game and hasn’t watched the game would say MJ era players weren’t as good as today’s players. I can match MJ era players against today’s players any day. Select your players and I will give you mine.

Let Odom finish a sentence.

I have yet to see any player come into the league like MJ Avg. them kinda Numbers out the gate…MJ is the Blueprint for Sports dominance..

NBA players most pick MJ as their GOAT… Wade, AI, Miller, KG, Allen, Arenas, etc etc…

Kobe and Mike are above everyone else

These younguns with this “competition” talk, you can tell they didn’t watch Jordan. The golden era had some of the greatest players ever and was no slouch. Larry Bird called Michael Jordan a god. The level of competition means nothing to a god.

So if the black dude is talking about who is better but really don’t watch basketball, how can he have a opinion 🤦🏽‍♂️.

Salute & Respect to Lamar Odom..

He said giannis and rasheed wallace 😂

@stanleed.harold5457

Ай бұрын

I agree 🙄🤨🤔🤷🤦

If he stays on them steroids, he can easily do 6 more years.

Odom is weirdly obsessed with sneakers. Bro we’re talking about basketball players.

MJ is the benchmark in making teammates better. He instilled a winning mindset in his team. There’s no way the Bulls would’ve made it to the semifinals without that mentality. 📐

Shoes make you the best basketball player? 😭😭 that’s Nikes control.

@239jangalang4

Ай бұрын

If you don’t hoop u just don’t understand if a dude is better than you, you can deal with it but Mike was better while having the best shoe game

@239jangalang4

Ай бұрын

Sheed and Giannis are 2 completely different playing styles you don’t know 💩 bout basketball stay in yo lane

This brother has awesome takes

DJ trying to debate a former nba pro great about basketball. Crazy

This dude talking about Jordans competition like it aint a shoot around NBA these days.

Lamar should have a podcast.

MJ is the player that everyone better. He always draw the double team. Then imagine being on his team and not playing your best . Please

volume low

Turn the volume up, fam.

SHOUT OUT TO LAMAR ODOM 👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼

Jordan had the same access to training programs, equipments, and basketball knowledge as his competitors in his era. Jordan wasnt a freak of nature at 6'6, 195-220 lbs so he didnt have the aize advantage over all of his defenders. He played during the big man era when real PFs and centers were guarding the paint. So this argument that he had no competition is lame and stupid.

I had the first jordans in 85-86 they we're $65 lamar Odom don't know what the hell he's talking about most of the time

Ak gets his knowledge of basketball from tictok clips

This dude wasn't even let Lamar talk. Horrible host. Fr fr

I love how chubby people talk about the level of competition when they wouldn’t be able to play in any era lmao.

Lamar is the sneakers to much credit.

Mike is the goat, because that entire generation that came from his dna was considered the golden age. Kobe, vince, tmac, ai all those guys wanted to be like him.

MJ came out with his sneakers in 1984, let’s be clear.

Lebron plays 1 end

MJ 🐐🔥🔥🔥

Lamar been thru a lot good and bad happy he made it

He said it best the man you got it from

His sneakers were wack 🤔 LoL 😂😂😂😂

Kobe shoes was out selling lebron’s shoes before he died

Man mike was our last real God status level player compared to his contemporaries

@mansamusa7896

Ай бұрын

Ill say lebron had that status for bout 2 years if that

Lebron doesn’t make players better at all

@lewisalba7825

Ай бұрын

Lies lol

@stanleed.harold5457

Ай бұрын

I agee

This man up there talking bout shoes smh

competition? lebron made the Eastern Conference weak to avoid competition. what is this dude talking about?

I wonder if some of these sports content creators are just feigning ignorance or they really have poor research habits. A 3rd option can be that some of them really just don’t get IT.

1 dumb argument after another

His argument is acid 9. Sneaker determines the best player? Shooting is hereditary!? Then what happen to Seth Curry.

Mike wasn't the first to have sneakers. Dr. Js were the joints before Jordans. Black Supermans were also out before Jordans.

I really don't understand the lebum "makes everyone better" thing when the stats and play of all his team mates took a dive instantly when put with lefraud. Another thing,we all knew Wade, Irving, Bosh, Lowe, AD, Westbrook, Carmelo etc before they player with your self proclaimed king,they were already superstars and/ franchize players. Who knew Pip, Kukoc, Longley, Kerry etc before they played with MJ? The only 2 players who were star calibre, not superstars or franchize players, were Rodman and Pip and the last grew with MJ' s help. And the IQ thing, let's stop thinking lefraud knows how to play, If so, with this much floor spacing he shouldn't have so many turnovers and miss layups and open shots,nobody's defending him lol

Bro be the host and let your people talk and stop interrupting.

Casuals and kids that grew up with NBA2K think there's a goat debate. These kids even try to superimpose NBA2K stats on real players. You'll hear them say a real player is trash because they beat them in 2K. They are a joke.

RESPECT to L.O.!!!

Why everyone keeps talking over lamar?

Stop saying LBJ makes everyone better, it's not even true. Look at Love, Bosh, Wade and Ad's stats and performance after teaming up with LBJ, nuf said.

Why sneaker relevance part of his Greatness debate 😢

Even before Kobe passed his sneakers were booming after he retired