It’s not about making women FEEL safe, it’s about making women actually safe.

@RobinHarris-nf4yv

3 күн бұрын

No it’s a culture war You can’t stop trans women entering women’s only toilets

@krob2327

Күн бұрын

Women aren’t safe in Britain. The grooming gangs still go on

Protect women and girls at all costs even if that hurts the feelings of the trans community.

ALL the parties have abandoned women, promote policies that endanger our safety and ignore us for their own depravity.

@user-ib9ky2jo9h

4 күн бұрын

cry more dips.hit

@gatvestreet9248

4 күн бұрын

Very well said. They talk inclusion while actually EXcluding women.

@krob2327

3 күн бұрын

Reasonable people who aren’t depraved fail to understand that labour get off on this. They hate the average person and want them harmed

@herbertlongfellow7702

Күн бұрын

All parties except The Party of Women.

So Isla Bryson would be housed in a female prison under Labour!??

@lynnm6413

5 күн бұрын

Graham, double grapist, you mean?!

@ZarchAlDain

5 күн бұрын

They would be risk assessed and sent to a male prison - as is what happened - as is what all the policies say would happen. The system worked.

@tonyvogue3640

5 күн бұрын

@@ZarchAlDain eventually, and lets not forget what happened to the kranky thief in the meantime

@ZarchAlDain

5 күн бұрын

@@tonyvogue3640 They were held in solitary, then transferred to a male prison once the risk assessment was completed. What did you think happened?

@kylebeaton5604

3 күн бұрын

already happening in us, they have to distribute condoms.

Look at Kelly-Jay Keen and the party of women. They are standing. They are very clear about what a woman is. Adult human female!

Not rocket science men can not be woman, we needs to retain sex based rights as priority

@RobinHarris-nf4yv

3 күн бұрын

What is a person born with female body parts but has X Y chromosomes

@Franeeky

3 күн бұрын

​@@RobinHarris-nf4yvThat scenario doesn't justify transgenderism.

@fritzwrangle-clouder6033

Күн бұрын

@@RobinHarris-nf4yv They would probably be men with a congenital abnormality.

Does Labour realise that women have the vote ?

@-liv7

5 күн бұрын

Shush! don't tell them!

@lynnm6413

5 күн бұрын

Right? I stand with J.K. Rowling….they are not votable for women

@mr.mayhem7402

5 күн бұрын

Why should they care when those women will vote for him to destroy their rights anyway?

@mr.mayhem7402

5 күн бұрын

​@@-liv7Too late. I'm asking each and every last one of them: "what are doing?"

@wendyholland2339

4 күн бұрын

They will when Reform come and take HER BACK SHES OURS WE ARE THE PATRIOTS

The Western world has gone insane. 🙄

@maccagrabme

5 күн бұрын

Only the pathetic far left who were insane anyway but now complete lunatics. Vote for sanity vote for Reform.

@TheHerrUlf

4 күн бұрын

Yes

@user-sm9jy2jm1i

3 күн бұрын

It's being done

@RobinHarris-nf4yv

3 күн бұрын

How would you police trans women being stopped from entering women’s only toilets or changing rooms? The only madness is thinking it can be done

@808State21

3 күн бұрын

I haven't i think they should build their own loos with their own pennies.

Why don’t politicians get that sex (what you are biologically) and gender (socially constructed roles that include behaviour & expression ) are 2 different things. It isn’t possible to change sex regardless of paper documentation.

They can't give a straight answer because they know they're throwing women under a bus. Going through a disabity assessment is much more stressful and instrusive than getting a piece of paper that lies about your sex!

@BurningTNT

4 күн бұрын

You know maybe a disability assessment shouldn’t be that stressful and intrusive. Maybe we should make it easier for people who are disabled to get the appropriate support and benefits Trans healthcare is both stressful and intrusive, in ways that are a massive waste of nhs money vs just giving people the information on potential side effects and letting them make an informed decision

What is wrong with this woman?

@CDee-if9og

5 күн бұрын

Absolutely nothing.She's coining it in,will say anything for a wage.

@Vitalij_R2

5 күн бұрын

She if a leftist

@catherinemartin6258

5 күн бұрын

@@CDee-if9og sounds like the Tory government

@simony2801

4 күн бұрын

Nothing, she’s right.

@Luton-Mick

3 күн бұрын

Her parents are related.

Women need to BE safe not just to feel safe

@ColaSpandex

Күн бұрын

Has anyone done a proper risk assessment? I have a funny feeling that we should be more concerned about electric lawnmowers.

Like a lot of women I’m a DV & r*pe survivor. The thought of having no female only spaces other than my home absolutely petrifies me. Labour have basically proudly announced that women, our rights, our opinions, our concerns, our safety means nothing. Well, unless you were born male. If that isn’t the very definition of misogyny, I’d like someone to tell me what is. 😡😡😡

@ZarchAlDain

5 күн бұрын

Trans women are victims of violence even more frequently than other women are. We can all work together to protect everyone. No one should be scared to go out.

@livelife5947

5 күн бұрын

⁠@@ZarchAlDain You’ve got no evidence proving that men who believe they are women are at greater risk of violence than women. None whatsoever. The trans movement isn’t a civil rights movement, it’s a misogyny movement aimed at disenfranchising women. It’s fundamentally anti women rights.

@livelife5947

5 күн бұрын

@@ZarchAlDain There’s no evidence to support your claim, it’s a complete & utter lie intended to manipulate women into going against their own interests.

@ZeldaKid5000

5 күн бұрын

Misogyny is discrimination and bigoted opinions towards women. Misogyny is not trans women being allowed to access female spaces. Also worth mentioning that it's men who oppose trans women's inclusion in women's spaces more than women do, women are in fact more supportive of it overall. I'd recommend getting out of these anti-trans echo chambers and into the outside world, where trans women have been using these spaces for decades without issue.

@CheeseLovingGuy

5 күн бұрын

​@@ZarchAlDainNo we cannot. Stay out of women's spaces.

I wouldnt trust the labs with my safety

@catherinemartin6258

5 күн бұрын

That’s because your a Tory

@fayabogush2956

4 күн бұрын

@@catherinemartin6258 Both hate women.

@juststee

3 күн бұрын

​@@catherinemartin6258I'm not a tory... always been Labour until 2020.. and now it will be Reform.

can't vote labour. Stammer is so wishy washy and his stance on women and trans is ridiculous. I always supported labour in the past but no more. My Dad was a shop steward and I think he would be rolling in his grave now. I'm with JK. and I'm female not cis just female.

@RobinHarris-nf4yv

3 күн бұрын

So how would you stop trans woman entering women’s only toilets

Was going to vote Labour, not a chance now.

@fate9735

5 күн бұрын

good choice as this is just the start of it and our woman and children need protecting from all this

@lynnm6413

5 күн бұрын

Totally agree….sell outs

@mr.mayhem7402

5 күн бұрын

​@@fate9735And adolescence who may turn out to be homosexuals after they gone through puberty, may also need to be protected from the mind virus cultists trying to "Trans" them with life altering cross hormones.

@catherinemartin6258

5 күн бұрын

Your lying your a Tory voter

@TheSuperPsychoKiller

4 күн бұрын

I’m pretty sure there are more important reasons to vote Labour not just because of bathrooms.

If one has a Y chromosome..you're male..like it or not. If some guy has a fantasy of being a woman, that's ok..but don't expect the rest of us to go along with it.....

@andreaswiklund7197

5 күн бұрын

Yea, all right, you do you ... But in your opinion, which toilet should a trans woman go to then?

@DacianRider

5 күн бұрын

@@andreaswiklund7197 bushes are plentiful

@brianyule1289

5 күн бұрын

What's your take on people born with Swyer Syndrome who are born with female genitalia and secondary sex characteristics, but have a Y chromosome? medlineplus.gov/genetics/condition/swyer-syndrome/#:~:text=In%20Swyer%20syndrome%2C%20individuals%20have,they%20have%20female%20reproductive%20structures%20.

@sasquatch2732

5 күн бұрын

@@andreaswiklund7197 perhaps the disabled toilet? They’re usually not communal

@Hipporider

5 күн бұрын

Men's toilet. They're men genetically​@@andreaswiklund7197

Worrying times people will regret this Labour government. People will vote against a tory government rather than for Labour.

@webbo9798

4 күн бұрын

Labour won't care how they get in.

@juststee

3 күн бұрын

In that case they will vote reform.

Why not have facilities for others who are not males or females. Then make sure the facilities are used by those who are what they actually are. Women fought for tens of years for equality and in the last few have lost almost all of them rights to men who say they are woman and that is just wrong.

3:20 "You don't police how people use toilets in that sense, but....." Amazing.

@christopheroliver8762

5 күн бұрын

We're talking about someone thats gone through a transition over a number of years, not someone who's just chucked on a dress one day. Yes, absolutely, a transwoman who is years into or completely transitioned should be allowed to use women's toilet and enter a woman's space.

@martycrow

5 күн бұрын

@@christopheroliver8762 I think the proposal is that eg a bio-man who wants to trans has to see a friendly doctor, get a GRC, wait two years and then is free to go into 'women only' spaces and situations. They can retain male genitalia. Not sure about changing in sight of women or girls. Nor the other way, the bio-women to men situation.

@dazjackson1972

5 күн бұрын

@@christopheroliver8762 No he shouldn't - regardless of the lengths he has gone to, in order to APPEAR female.

@webbo9798

4 күн бұрын

@@christopheroliver8762 NO - the problem is how will you be able to tell the difference ? You start this now and you will soon a free for all. Why should we" change everything" to accommodate a very small minority. Ridiculous

@BurningTNT

4 күн бұрын

I mean she’s right though When was the last time you saw a stop and search or an id check to enter the public bathroom? The world you want labour to promise doesn’t exist Let’s throw the reverse question and see how people feel: what about a trans man whose gone through the sake process? Would you insist they need to be in the women’s bathroom? You can’t say you don’t want both, either you accept that someone whose gone through that process can use the bathroom that matches their gender, or you say it’s not enough and force them into the one they’re not comfortable with.

I've just given up. The UK has officially gone totally insane. Beam me up Scotty!

If jk is wrong so are 95% of us REFORM FOR WOMENS SAFTY

Weasel words.

Remove all Men/Women signs from the doors of single sex spaces. Replace them with Male/Female and end the argument and confusion.

@iNsAnEwBiE

5 күн бұрын

Better yet, get rid of the big multi-person bathroom set up and stick with smaller, single person bathrooms. No gender association needed.

@watchyoutb

5 күн бұрын

What if a "trans woman" identifies as female? Back to square one. And I'm not making this up, they do identify as female by the way!

@watchyoutb

5 күн бұрын

But what if a trans woman identifies as female?

@watchyoutb

5 күн бұрын

What if a trans woman identifies as female

@arther4tune443

5 күн бұрын

Well there's now an attempt by the Trans lobby to conflate sex & gender, which means that if you change your gender your "legal sex" changes too = utter madness.

Secure safe spaces for women in law

3:08 This is quite vague. She mentions for getting access to public female toilet you need go through "an extensive process". What does she mean for "extensive"? (e.g. surgery? hormonal treatment? wearing a wig and talking inclusive language?)

@watchyoutb

5 күн бұрын

​@@Gramsci but in the equality act it says anyone that has proposed, started or completed a process to change your sex is covered by "gender reassignment". Not only people with a certificate.

@sookibeulah9331

5 күн бұрын

@@GramsciLabour is proposing to remove the medical panel requirement for GRC.

@lynnm6413

5 күн бұрын

@@Gramsci one specialist doctor….who are all ideologically biased….-who are you trying to fool?

@kaesmith2893

5 күн бұрын

@@lynnm6413stop lying, stop being conspiratorial.

@Thatssomebadhatharry1

5 күн бұрын

@@kaesmith2893lol look at the non brainery name ‘KAE’ haha

Can't they just hang up a sign saying "In Use by Trans" then others (men or women, or other trans) can decide if they want to go in or wait a few minutes? It will be such a rare thing that we'll look back and wonder what all the fuss was about.

@ZarchAlDain

5 күн бұрын

This forces trans people to out themselves every time they use the bathroom. Within a month we'd have multiple reports of them being assaulted. Within a year some would be dead. That's the level of violence they face every day.

@christopheroliver8762

5 күн бұрын

I kinda support the idea that TERFs would be inconvenienced by their own bigotry.

@Thatssomebadhatharry1

5 күн бұрын

@@christopheroliver8762 shut up you absolute creep

@Thatssomebadhatharry1

5 күн бұрын

@@christopheroliver8762think you are clever don’t you.. you are out largely outnumbered by us rational people .. drop the sexist misogyny

@shrikeofterven6006

4 күн бұрын

​@ZarchAlDain That is a lie. If there were that many attacks taking place, the trans boosters would make sure every single one was a news event.

As a woman, if I'm alone in a mixed bathroom and a man enters that bathroom, I feel alert and uncomfortable. A simple push into a stall is a risk. I don't want men or people who look like men (I don't know!!! And I don't want to need to ask) to enter the toilet that I'm using!

People who begin their answers with the weasel "So" are not giving answers but making statements.

There is only one solution for Woman.....Vote Reform! Vote Reform! Vote Reform! Vote Reform! Vote Reform! Vote Reform! Vote Reform! Vote Reform! Vote Reform! Vote Reform! Vote Reform! Vote Reform!

I would consider giving my vote for any party whose stance would be thus: We are instructing trans women to use male toilets, in where the following signs would be displayed: "These toilets are also available for the use of trans women. Any form of verbal or physical harassment is a criminal offence. Your understanding and cooperation is greatly appreciated". Men are way more capable, emotionally and physically at accommodating trans women.

@linzeubi4209

4 күн бұрын

I agree, I think the push should be for males to accept other males regardless of how they present themselves. I am yet to hear of a transwoman having problems in the gents, certainly not in the UK anyway.

I wouldnt want to use the loos if trans men are using it, im a woman and i wouldnt feel safe, so in that turn i wouldnt bother going out id stay indoors where i would feel safer

@lynnm6413

5 күн бұрын

Tndntified men or trans men aka females?!

@maccagrabme

5 күн бұрын

No choice under Labour.

@mica412

23 сағат бұрын

Actually a trans man would be using the male toilet. Just shows you the absolute ignorance on the subject!

Woffle woffle woffle!

Jeesh, how much more mixed up can this world get.

Why not just make all public toilets individual lockable cubicles with their own sinks, and end this divisiveness?

Not sure why the shadow Education Secretary giving her opinion on trans women using women's toilets should unravel Labour's policy as it isn't her brief.

@jeremysmith3786

5 күн бұрын

So you say that a shadow cabinet member can only understand and talk about their own department! Have you heard of collective responsibility. Typical, avoid the difficult questions, that is unsupportable policies have been forced through, throughout the ages.

@emmaeltringham91

5 күн бұрын

@@jeremysmith3786 Not at all. She can give their opinion, but it doesn't change the party policy. You say she avoided a difficult question when in fact she answered it directly by saying a trans person should use the bathroom of their choice. Sounds like you didn't listen to the same interview I did.

@BrassToff

5 күн бұрын

​@@emmaeltringham91 She didn't have a clue. She was clearly making it up as she went along. just like every other politician.

@carltaylor6452

5 күн бұрын

It's presumably her brief when it comes to pupils and students being sexually intimidated by males in female toilets in schools and colleges.

@carltaylor6452

5 күн бұрын

@@emmaeltringham91 Define a 'trans' person? Are you using the Stonewall definition? And while that 'trans' person is free to choose, what choice do the women and girls have? How does any woman know at the time that the man intimidating her in the bathroom is 'trans' and not a any male taking advantage of her inability to question him? You are aware that trans-identified males are more likely than the general male population to be in prison for sex offences (MOJ stats)?

Adam Boulton, your 'big political brain'. The one whose wife was Director of Government Relations for Blair and was described as "the most influential non-elected person in Downing Street". I'm sure he's properly impartial, ay?

Keep talking this disgusting view from Labour is not going away 👍 and I’m here for it

Odd that a matter concerning a miniscule number of the population should be considered to vital. Is this weird debate going on everywhere in the world? I doubt it.

@watchyoutb

5 күн бұрын

It impacts all women. That's roughly half the population

@lynnm6413

5 күн бұрын

In the West…Yes!

@MrsTabby1963

4 күн бұрын

Look at what is happening in sports, men winning medals/money in women's sports now. Men using women's facilities where they are showering or changing or using toilet facilities. Men being sent to female prisons, even when convicted of sexual or paedo offences. Men gaining entry to women;s refuges. Men gaining entry to home where elderly, sick or disabled women live alone to provide intimate care. Only predatory men do this and Labour (and other parties) are making it so easy for them to perform their evil deeds upon women everywhere.

Perhaps we need to move to only having single use toilet rooms, instead of bath rooms. When you open the door, you can see the entire inside for safety, and they are for everyone to use.

@chrimbus71

5 күн бұрын

Just some toilets of any description in London would be nice. London has fewer public toilets than any major developed city on earth. Its pretty disgusting and embarassing fact

@PtolemyJones

5 күн бұрын

@@chrimbus71 I was including toilets in businesses and work places.

wont answer the question

Don't worry Rishi, Nigel will sort it all out shortly LOL.

what a double speak woman. It is impossible to understand what she is saying about single sex spaces. Does she not know the words yes and no

So if jkr thinks a man is not a woman shes wrong? Also what safe gaurding is going to happen for actual women , and what if you dont believe the gender opinion

'Labour's trans toilet policy'? FFS, the Times, don't go the way of the Telegraph. Get a grip.

Word salad

That’s just blah blah blah isn’t it

but but but but but but but.........

And so it begins.....

Could you answer the question please

Loonie left left me.

Why is Kait obsessed with the colour of Adam's pen? Does it make him look slightly less masculine to use a colour that is arbitrarily attributed to a sex? People need to grow up about this kind of thing.

I mean harry goes into the girls bathroom to explore the chamber of secrets. 👀

I always tell my wife to just use the disabled one these days.. safer option.

Madness

Oh my god who gives a toss about toilets!!! We don’t CARE

@isabelcampelos8594

2 күн бұрын

I care. Speak for yourself

@slinkiegirl2001

2 күн бұрын

i care

She really grates with me,I can't stand listening to her voice and she dresses like something out of Mary Poppins.

Crazy

Vote Party Of Women

Would women only toilets and unisex toilets for everyone left work? With a few extra cubicles

@tonyvogue3640

5 күн бұрын

no because the word woman has been corrupted, my solution would be "testes" or "non testes"

Im here for a laugh at labour also .kier likes this subject I find it so contradictory and unnecessary just my humble opinion .I do however understand and agree with Jk Rowling

@lynnm6413

5 күн бұрын

Same, I stand with J.K. Rowling…..Labour are untenable

This nonsense only started when state pension ages for men and women were equalised. What are the chances?

@mr.mayhem7402

5 күн бұрын

Correlation is not causation. Transfeminism is the logical progression of feminism and the ideological insistence that to be absolutely equal then men and women have to be same, even though they're not.

@usergiodmsilva1983PT

5 күн бұрын

It's not. ​@@mr.mayhem7402

Current polling shows that although deserving attention, it's not a deal breaker for that many people.

Well ok. Will men have safe spaces too? If not, why not. We are all equal now, aren't we? S'ok, just kidding. Of course we're not.

@lynnm6413

5 күн бұрын

No, we ain’t! Men commit 96% of SA‘s, no matter the gender identity

Who cares?!

Havent you got anything better to talk about. Its very easy. Many small cafes and establishments have one toilet for everyone. It has one toilet and a locked door. Everyone can use it. Perfect. Having special toilets does not reduce violent sexual offences. If it does then I would like to see the evidence. Trans people should be allowed to use the toilet they identify with their gender. I really dont think it offends many people and again I would ask for evidence of the number of people disturbed by or concerned about this issue

@dazjackson1972

5 күн бұрын

The issue isn't "small cafes." How do you expect a single woman to feel if she enters a large shopping centre toilets, and finds herself sharing with 3 six foot transwomen?

@watchyoutb

5 күн бұрын

​@@dazjackson1972 also changing rooms is a big issue

@paulpaisley5291

5 күн бұрын

So trans woman can go into young girls changing rooms. Your a monster. You think that's OK.

@sookibeulah9331

5 күн бұрын

Should trans women be able to use changing rooms with open changing areas?

@paulpaisley5291

5 күн бұрын

@@sookibeulah9331 no. How many times. No.

J.K. Rowling is spot on and these people want to dance around the issue.

Mad how we used to have an empire now we debate toilets.

They have been using the same toilet for years. What you going to do look up every woman's skirt?

@Smallio1

5 күн бұрын

If a man walked into the toilets while my daughter was in there. There would be no way he would be walking out.

@lynnm6413

5 күн бұрын

That‘s the reason most of us women carry hairspray and a lighter in our purses….for making biological facts clear to confused men

@carltaylor6452

5 күн бұрын

Years ago the numbers of transsexuals was miniscule; today there are many many more, and they don't even have to have had surgery or even present as female.

@Thatssomebadhatharry1

5 күн бұрын

You know as well as all of us Robbie love that trans Identified males NEVER FULLY PASS. We always know and therefore we would always know if they were using female toilets where they do not belong. And it would make a great deal of females uncomfortable

Can someone please explain to me how a trans woman in the womens toilet is a problem.

@commodiousvestibule

5 күн бұрын

More than 70 per cent of trans women prisoners are incarcerated for sex offences or violent crimes.

@Brand131

5 күн бұрын

Since trans women are men, I think you can simplify your question to why men in women's bathrooms are a problem. And I can see why women would feel unsafe with men in their bathrooms, even though most men are harmless, a small group of them are predators. You can also this with the prisons' populations, where an disproportionate number (per capita) of trans women are in prison for sex-related offenses.

@derloopkat

5 күн бұрын

It's a security risk because any male could claim to be a woman trough an administrative process.

@paulpaisley5291

5 күн бұрын

So you think it's OK for a man to go into a young girls changing room. Who's the monster.

@sookibeulah9331

5 күн бұрын

It’s not just toilets, it’s changing rooms. Should trans women be able to use female changing rooms with common changing areas?

Why this unhealthy obsession with who goes to the loo where?

@carltaylor6452

5 күн бұрын

You obviously don't care about the safety of your mother, sister, wife, daughter .... I wouldn't call being concerned for their privacy, dignity and safety an 'unhealthy obsession'.

@mr.mayhem7402

5 күн бұрын

There's unhealthily obsessive men who want to ogle and sexually harrass women in women only spaces.

@shrikeofterven6006

4 күн бұрын

Yeah, why can't the men in womanface just use men's spaces if this is a non-issue?

Lunatics running the asylum

The Worlds gone nuts but but women will always be nuts free.