Labour 'denying the existence of trans people?': raging clash on the proposed puberty blockers ban
Discrimination Lawyer, Robin Moira White, and Co-Founder and Trustee of LGB Alliance, Bev Jackson, clash over their views on the age young people should be prescribed puberty blockers.
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Kids cant get a job, learn how to drive , drink, but they can make a decision to irriversably change their bodies?? This is madness.
@Vahloksavjul
25 күн бұрын
Puberty blockers aren’t irreversible.
@kiriavatar123
25 күн бұрын
@@Vahloksavjul yes they are. They create atrophy in the testicles. Its irreversible. Its sterilisation. Puberty blockers cause defects. The Tavistock clinic whistleblower wrote of irreversible bodily damage. High increase of cancer. Hollow bones(degenerative disc disease) Listen to de-transitioner stories. I wouldn't wish this on anyone. No more brutalising childrens bodies. The children must be protected from this ideology.
@gibbo822
25 күн бұрын
Yes they are @@Vahloksavjul
@Sweetp.76
25 күн бұрын
@gibbo822 No they are not!!
@Vahloksavjul
25 күн бұрын
@@gibbo822 nope, by themselves they’re not it depends on whether they coincide with the onset of gender affirming hormones. The physical effects are all fully reversible anyway.
Robin is a fetishist.
@ipercalisse579
25 күн бұрын
Autogynephile?
@orchid6789
25 күн бұрын
@@ipercalisse579 Yes, or AGP for short.
@laf4891
25 күн бұрын
Absolutely, so obviously. Just his voice.
@jubly6413
25 күн бұрын
And why is he talking to young people (possibly kids) about his fetish?
@macc3239
25 күн бұрын
Ay Gee Pee
PROTECT GAY KIDS FROM PUBERTY BLOCKERS!
@TheGamingNutter
25 күн бұрын
PROTECT CHILDREN FROM GAY RHETORIC!
@DMSProduktions
25 күн бұрын
@@TheGamingNutter LOL!
@Vahloksavjul
25 күн бұрын
@@TheGamingNutterWdym?
@rabbismooth
25 күн бұрын
@@PRINCESS-zz3wq it's the frankinsine doctors, who like making innocent children there Guinea pigs!
@Flowlike04isaretard
24 күн бұрын
@@Vahloksavjulkids shouldn’t be introduced and almost brainwashed into this trans bullshit
Puberty blockers from 9 years of age? Changes should be made after the age of 25 years old when the brain finishes growing.
@george6977
25 күн бұрын
You are more sensible than the far left and clinicians.
@nikobellic570
25 күн бұрын
Yup. Biggest medical scandal of our time
@lynnm6413
25 күн бұрын
If you give GnRH analogs that early, patients will be unorgasmic FOREVER. Tell me a child who understands that…?! It is criminal!
@DMSProduktions
25 күн бұрын
@@lynnm6413 Umm it doesn't quite work like that! Being surgically mutilated will do that, not stopping puberty! All people are BORN with the ability to orgasm!
@not2longnow
25 күн бұрын
Another scandal, just like the 'vaccines'
Finally labour have something logical , humanitarian and with sense
@bongoon2552
25 күн бұрын
I said the same thing just seconds ago.
@mjones4083
25 күн бұрын
As long as Labour does not cave in to the hard left . Watch this space .Children are not out of peril yet .
@Trendycosmetics-os6gh
22 күн бұрын
You know what Labour can't be trusted and will be forced out of power soon.
Robin speaks yet says nothing.
@mjones4083
25 күн бұрын
& he smirks when Bev Jackson speaks absolute sense .
@elizabethsamson5591
25 күн бұрын
Hedging his bets - he's a lawyer.
@nakedenby
21 күн бұрын
She said quite clearly and repeatedly that these judgements are for clinicians to make ie not for biased and ill informed journalists or designated hate groups like LGB alliance.
The male guest is not credible.
@parakeetfloor3185
25 күн бұрын
But he's a woman ... or so he believes, apparently.
@kitcat4512
25 күн бұрын
Squirming to defend.
@DMSProduktions
25 күн бұрын
Never HAD any!
@IdeologieUK
25 күн бұрын
I was listening to the audio at first, then picked up my phone. Jesus!
@Serif77-uf5pr
25 күн бұрын
Once you know. You know.
Safe guarding children from this bullshit
Robin does not sound like he had puberty blockers with that very masculine voice, yet he is pushing for children to have them. That to me is deeply suspect.
@souxcasa
24 күн бұрын
They live in a fantasy that this is what they would have wanted. In reality they have no idea what they would have wanted so they are allowing the experimentation on children to feed their own unsubstantiated fantasies.
@nakedenby
21 күн бұрын
And the irony of your post goes straight over your head.
I want, I want, I want.....me, me, me.
Im 58 an im still a tom boy..but i dont need a willy
@davidcoolomfg8129
25 күн бұрын
Not even occasionally?
@Cherismile
25 күн бұрын
😂😂❤
@luhamlulu1210
22 күн бұрын
You are not you don't know your self ask your self what ever any things you are girl women women just like that you lady
@luhamlulu1210
22 күн бұрын
Even you beautiful
@stevepalmer2389
9 күн бұрын
@@davidcoolomfg8129That certainly made me laugh! 🤣
About time! Let kids be kids. If they still wanna do it when they’re of age then that’s their business. Letting children have puberty blockers is child abuse and it should be stopped.
That guy is evil
@sarasmith4036
25 күн бұрын
Looks like a muppet 😂
I'm a reform voter but I gotta say fair play to Labour on this one
@CC-uc4gq
24 күн бұрын
Extra impressed with Wes Streeting, as he used to work for Stonewall before entering politics. Glad that he has taken Cass Review on board. I have worked in primary care for 30 yrs, and from my experience, those who transition later in life, usually late 20s and beyond, tend to be happier with their decision. Interesting if any other clinicians have observed similar?
@Hector-bj3ls
24 күн бұрын
Same. It'd could also be the Reform threat. Starmer will have to do at least a few things otherwise Reform is going to take all their seats in the next election.
There has never been a time when children have been in such peril from adults .
That man looks terrible, he looks sick and what he speaks is Insane - Patrick please spare us the suffering of listening to such garbage - Well Done to the Lady speaking Truth and speaking Common Sense.
@mjones4083
25 күн бұрын
We need to know these people are "out there " . To beware .
God just listening to that guy makes me feel sick
@bigfellaoo7
25 күн бұрын
He is a twisted man.
Bev nails it about longitudinal studies. These kids need mental health care not body modification. "I'm tired of middle age men telling us what ought to happen with teenage girls." Spot on!
Puderty can be scary for kids. Telling them their are options to change it is stupid. Kids haven't experienced sexual attraction because, shockingly, they are still kids.
Dude on the left keeps rolling his eyes because he knows you are right Patrick
Clinicians are ideologically captured
I dont believe it, a sensible policy
A step in the right direction
When I heard Robin Moira White voice and saw this person's appearance, I thought there was some error in the ether, or at least that my sound card has crashed.
There are masses of adolescent girls who experienced disquiet and discomfort as they approached adulthood. Offer thanks to whatever deity you embrace that those girls weren't given blockers and testosterone or the vast majority of us wouldn't be here today.
Bev Jackson is just brilliant here.
Ask the Trans if she has experienced pain after transitioning? For how long? I met several in a pain clinic I worked in. They were in a lot of pain & on strong medication to try to live a normal life.
@SexRealist301
25 күн бұрын
He, not she! He sounds like Barry White and looks like what he is: a bloke!
@gibbo822
25 күн бұрын
Majority people in pain clinics are not in pain but have pain killers addiction. That's a fact
@gibbo822
25 күн бұрын
@@Dana-ml7sy pip claiments such as my dad have been on pain management for 10 years he was ment to be off 5 years ago as he has no pain just the addiction
@liammorgans7329
25 күн бұрын
@@gibbo822what does that have to do with trans?
@gibbo822
25 күн бұрын
@@liammorgans7329 pain clinics are the topic in this comment
Don't ask an AGP about the transing of minors!
What the heck is that on the left? 😂😂😂
@lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559
25 күн бұрын
A man who thinks he passes as a woman.
@sarasmith4036
25 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@garyloades5188
24 күн бұрын
The definition of ugliness 😂
Middle aged is pretty generous… Bev was excellent. Robin is a self-serving narcissist.
@chelseabray7565
25 күн бұрын
The + dressers are 😂
The fella is a wrong’un
There called children for a reson. No to children you have to be 18 or older
Adults have to stop allowing puberty to be made out as a fearsome thing that children should be enabled to avoid. Puberty resolves the vast majority "gender" identity issues.
He isnt fooling anyone with that hair and dress
I'm so glad that they will do this. We need to protect women and children from this scary and dangerous ideology!!!!
Much of the research suggests a social contagion - Lisa Pittman did a very interesting study that was then banned. Many of the people changed their mind on transitioning after 25 years age when their brain is fully developed. The pre frontal lobe is fully developed around 25 interestingly this gives better ability to make decisions.
What the fxxk was that
Im sure he does talk to "trans young people". creep
Credit where credit is due; Labour taking a saner stance on the woke fringe that the Tories let run amok.
@ireallymeanthis2760
25 күн бұрын
@@sbam4881 that's an interesting thought; given that all this madness has happened under the Tories, if Labour continue with sensible policies like these it's the Tories who will be labelled the woke party!
Not letting kids make decisions because they're kids isn't denying the existence of trans people, if you're an adult you can believe what you want and live how you want but don't try to make society fall in line.
Robin can’t acknowledge that mental health plays a massive part in this issue because that would mean he would have to confront his own state of mind of why he lives his life as a trans woman.
@Adam-sd2ow
25 күн бұрын
He's a man not even making an effort but claims to be no different to any other woman.
“Children know their own minds at different ages” What other group of people says that?
@tkps
24 күн бұрын
That was a red flag if I ever heard one.
Robin need to be kept away from children.
As soon as I saw 'Robin' with HIS deep man voice I turned it right off. Stop platforming these insane people. Make shame a thing again.
Robin you mean Roger
How would it look to a judge if a man dressed as a woman saying he was a lawyer, if i was the judge i would take it as an insult to the court and charge them with contempt of court.
Why are we even talking about this? Absolute madness!!
7:15 Yes, the motivation of middle aged men wishing to be treated, seen and present as the opposite sex is utterly different and unrelated to children with the affliction of "gender identity" issues.
@gemmaowen8379
25 күн бұрын
Middle aged trans people were children of the 40s ,50s, 60s, 70s and 80s when it was almost impossible to get any help with being trans, trans kids from those times suffered in silence, and a lot end their lives early,
No child can possibly comprehend the issues involved with taking puberty blockers and the lifelong impact on health.
Who's this middle aged bloke to tell young girls what to do, sickening.
The bloke Robin doesn’t make any sense, Bev just wants to protect young people, as an Autistic person myself I would have been vulnerable to this ideology because I never liked typical male past times like sports or scouts and so on and I’m exactly the type of person she I trying to protect, when an Autistic person gets an idea in there head it can very easily become a special interest or obsession making us very vulnerable even as adults never mind as children
@Wendyj55
25 күн бұрын
Well said
@sarasmith4036
25 күн бұрын
I’m finding autism is spreading in young children probably for this reason.
@tkps
24 күн бұрын
The Tavistock Clinic's own numbers showed that in 2010 and prior they only had about 50 disphoria cases per year, mostly guys. By 2017 it had increased to 2600 and the latest figure was over 4000, 70% girls, many with autism. So there's something in that. Social media existing and it's use to increasingly sexualise women also contributes.
It's valid that the genuine trans know very early - sadly, now its fashionable there are a million not-trans kids all insisting they are. The trans activists have made life difficult for the genuine trans.
@tkps
24 күн бұрын
Exactly. When Tavistock numbers hovered around 50 a year for years majority male right up to 2010, then increased to 2600 in 2017 with the last available figure at over 4000, 70% girls with a large number autistic, that's social media not disphoria.
Don’t give PB to kids full stop
Should be banned until 21 or above imo.
@DMSProduktions
25 күн бұрын
Which DEFEATS the entire purpose! ;o)
Good
What does all this lead to, who on earth gives people rights, to live the life of lies?
Yes. Yes. Yes. Labour.. i voted reform, but your doing a good thing
@chelseabray7565
25 күн бұрын
I voted reform too fell a pit in my stomach when Labour won but this has surprised me
KIDS SHOULD NOT BE GIVEN PUBERTY BLOCKERS. How many young people are now detransitioning because they've realised they've made a huge mistake but unfortunately, for some of them, the effects of what should be illegal surgery, has absolutely ruined their lives . Anyone who even thinks kids should be given puberty blockers are absolutely mad, these people are not thinking of the young kids they're thinking of themselves. Leave the kids alone until they're old enough and adult enough to make their own minds up.
@nakedenby
21 күн бұрын
Typing in upper case doesn't lend your personal opinion any more credence. A very tiny number suffer regret, less than 1%. Regret is a complication of many medical procedures. Puberty blockers are currently considered best practice by a consensus of the world's expert medical authorities. I rather think they're better placed to make a judgement than some random youtube commenter.
We have to make sure wes has support in this through supporting letters or on X. Im worried the mob might push him to pull back
I didnt want to go through puberty at 12 years old . I hated the change in my body . That doesn't mean a 12 year old should be allowed do what they want.
Why on earth has it taken this long? 14 years of “conservative” government and eventually labour are the ones who see sense.
You can't vote before 18, you can't drink before 18, you are not a responsible adult until 18. Stop thinking that children know what is best, adults are meant to look after our children, leave children to be children and stop trying to justify your choices by making others choose the way you chose. 18 is when you are classed as an adult, 18 is when you can decide and not before.
@ehnowthen
25 күн бұрын
Labour will allow gullible kids to vote so they can stay in power forever.
I’ve no words to describe the creeps that Robin gives me - I’m actually shivering. .
Yes its escape from womanhood. Its happened to my cousin - often linked with poor paternal figure too - to gain control over masculinity.
Children cannot consent to sterilisation
yes this woman is right
Thousands of years ago kids went thru puberty just fine.
Children can't give informed consent for these unnecessary and extremely harmful treatments.
Clinicians aren’t all lovely people
@Abi-kk4nl
25 күн бұрын
I feel like im going nutty, the amount of times I've explained that some people looked at as experts have more knowledge than you but are intellectually dishonest is crazy.
What does that man on the left tell you about the soul???
@rabbismooth
25 күн бұрын
It tells you that it is sick twisted and perverted!
Labour doing something right…
The age 13 to 15 is tough . The brain is under going huge changes. Nobody is able to make this decision at this time. Not all doctors are the same , some are just want to make money.
Puberty is a human right. Protect all children from having there natural development interfered with by dangerous drugs.
Safety first
Fantastic. Protect children at all cost. They should also stop calling them puberty blockers when it’s a hardcore cancer treatment drug with suicide as one of many side effects.
Good. Stop hurting children
Cancer hormones.
I think a two day old embryo should have puberty blockers but that’s just me
Lets be honest its labour, comrade starmer will probably flip flop on it anyway
@tkps
24 күн бұрын
I'm not in the UK (Aussie) but I suspect after the UK census breakdowns released last year and we saw how small this group really is, it dawned on politicians too. Let's face it with the all the noise from the usual far left suspects, we'd be forgiven for thinking the numbers were larger than they turned out to be. I.E. 97% of 16s and over completed the census. 93% of those voluntarily answered the questions on sexuality/gender identity. Numbers: gay 1.6%, bi 1.2%, trans, non binary, queer etc combined? .6%. It's been realised they can move with little backlash as the general public is already against blockers, removing womens spaces etc. They're politicians after all.
Let's not give too much credit to Liebour about this as it is about as much common sense as banning other illegal drugs.
I’d leave the room if that was my appointed lawyer. Jeez. How can it convince a judge if it denies biology?
The male guest is smirking when the woman says they need psychotherapy. How ridiculous. And if the example she used was to come to him in 5 years and say she made a mistake and is really a women, would he change his tune?
Finally!
Finally something good is said about Labour.
We all should make a pack together and go back to normal living! Believe!
You leave kids till they are old enogh to make their own minds up...not 14 yr olds
A lot of the time the clinician's don't know exactly what they're doing apart from experimenting!!
Good move Wes.
"Cruel" always trying to guilt trip, generations have survived without all this.
If a teenager is so convinced that they are "in the wrong body", then where is the harm in them receiving therapy and whatever treatment is required for a few years until they are old enough to make an informed decision? No-one is denying that trans people exist... It is simply a case of not wanting children and teenagers to make decisions when their brains are not fully capable of making that decision.
Labour MIGHT just surprise you yet!
Well done labour credit where credit is due👏🏼👏🏼
The clinical evidence is predominantly against the efficacy of PBs.
Anyone ever met someone who could describe what it feels like to be a man or women.... No me neither. Having said that why do medical professionals affirm a trans persons feelings/opinion on what they are, what next affirming an anorexics claim they are fat and prescribing slimming pills ?
In a perfect world I would agree agree with Robin Moira White that we should leave it up to the clinicians, however when the clinicians' governing bodies have been ideologically captured then "her" answer becomes evasive and disingenuous.
Why the hell would adults allow or encourage this sort of abuse! The early years of a persons life are basically emotional turmoil! We learn to walk before we run and pushing doesn't help at all! They'll get to where they want to be in the end anyway! Christ, some kids want to be animals, would people encourage medical procedures to achieve that? I guess some sickos would!
At last, Labour doing the right thing!!
For once labour is doing the right thing!
Why do people keep platforming AGPs who don't have their fetishes under control?
Eventually they will understand,,this is simply "deviant".....