The Last Stand update has made the oxygen tank attract zombies like a pipe bomb, but the time it takes for it to attract zombies and explode still makes it pretty ineffective. You'd have to throw it to a mass of idle commons for it to work.

@joao34386

Жыл бұрын

It’s useful if you enter a new area that is full of infected, and has an oxygen tank laying around. All you need is 1 shot and you basically clear the whole area

@Rysk1

Ай бұрын

I use it more often than propane tank. On expert mode it really helps with hords full of zombies.

@Futo_no_mononobe

15 сағат бұрын

what, i remember it did the same before the update

10m video for class:😞😞😔 34m video on a game I already have 3400 hours in:👀👀👀

incendiary ammo actually has another drawback: it cancels all other burning effects. For example, if you ignite Tank with molotov, it will burn until it dies or extinguishes itself. However, if you shoot that Tank with incendiary round it will stop burning after a set amount of time

@Shuji_the_great

14 күн бұрын

Wait does that mean every time you shoot it resets the burn effect?

@alface935

14 күн бұрын

​@@Shuji_the_greatGood question...

@videoplayback_

10 күн бұрын

​@@Shuji_the_greatyes it does

The hunting rifle is more accurate when moving and if I remember correctly reloads faster, but having a bigger clip is usually more helpful in expert

@theotv5522

Ай бұрын

Military reloads in 3.33s, Hunting rifle is 3.13s so it's not by a huge margin, and so it's basically a Hunting rifle upgrade. I also notice all guns will take slightly longer to reload if you completely empty the clip, though it's very small.

The hunting rifle has no bloom even without a laser sight, while the military sniper does have bloom without a laser

You missed an important detail on sharp vs. blunt melee weapons. Sharp melees instantly remove collision from killed infected. Blunts have a delay. Sharp swings + good melee weaving between swings let you force your way through a horde, and you simply can't do that as well with blunts. That can be the difference between being able to break free and make it to a spot where you can't get flanked and getting stuck and punched in the back and going down. The machete has a smaller arc on the first two swings, but it swings faster than the katana, and that's really noticeable when trying to push through common. I'd rate the machete higher if you're swinging your camera around to compensate for the poorer arc. The differences between the combat and auto shotty are basically meaningless. At the end of the day they both do the same thing. They have garbage long range capability but mulch hordes. Shotguns in general have the benefit of being able to aggressively reload. There's no penalty for starting to reload any time you are not currently attacking the way there is with the rifles/smgs. You don't HAVE to make or wait for a long window to perform a reload when you're not at max ammo. On paper the raw output of an m16 or AK should be way better, but in practice, being able to weave in reloads at any opportunity lets you play a lot more aggressively and start pushing doors/corners before you could finish those god awful scar/krieg animations. If you get a chrome shotty with a laser, it's honestly a very high-tier weapon. If you melee after firing a shot, you can shoot pump shotguns slightly faster. Obviously it's still a pump at the end of the day, but a tight spread shotty can do midrange clears while being phenomenal for skeeting jockeys and hunters, and it's still a shotty, so it's never going to be bad in a choke against hordes. I'd honestly put the chrome with lasers in S tier if you're playing with bots, particularly in the L4D 1 campaigns where witches will pretty frequently spawn in narrow chokes that you must go through. The tight spread makes running crowns fairly easy, even without lasers, and simply being a reasonable all around weapon at the expense of raw burst output is a reasonable tradeoff.

Now that I think about it, pipe bomb is kind of a mix between a Molotov and bile bomb. It’s weaker than both but does both damage and distraction at the same time

@FarfromTile

14 күн бұрын

Generalist vs Specialist

I've only watched your latest 2 videos so far but you come off as well-spoken and intelligent with a good voice for this kind of thing. You present information clearly and accurately with only a few missteps where you suddenly change your mind but it's not horrible and overall your videos are entertaining. Two criticisms I have are the usage of internet speak like "tl;dr" and so on which detracts from the professional sound of your video. There were more words but I can't remember but it doesn't suit the style of video you're going for. The other issue in regards to this video is using "Take up the screen" to describe the range of swinging weapons, usually saying that implies the weapon is taking up screen space and is otherwise in the way which confused me for a bit but I figured out what you meant later on. This is some quality stuff my man, I hope you keep at it.

1k hours on CSS based

The oxygen tank actually does attract common infected, but the delay isn't long enough to attract a lot of zombies like a pipe bomb does

two things with the tierlist, firstly you forgot about the fireworks with the enviromentals (the ones in concert finale). secondly they kinda improved the knife in patch from a few months ago, don't know if it makes it that much better but just wanted to mention

@wii-u-enjoyer

4 ай бұрын

they basically made the knife into the machete 2. it also doesn't have the different swing/damage arcs the other melees have. kinda busted ngl

@Mikkku

4 ай бұрын

@@wii-u-enjoyer aight, good to know

@HeatCheque

2 ай бұрын

the fireworks are just a gas can reskin

It's weird but I find the pan extremely consistent, the hit detection feels amazing and it's kinda fast. I have it as my third favorite melee just behind the katana and the axe

Honestly for expert realism laser mp5 or silenced smg is better than ars especially in the parish finale if you find the chainsaw. You have enough ammo and if u have good aim with the god tier accuracy of laser mp5 and silenced smg you practically can play the whole map and only need to resupply in each safe room

dude ive been getting back into l4d and got recommended ur expert guide - ur fkn goated bro im surprised you dont net more subs and views. i hope u upload more often cause there really isnt much american creators who go as in depth into expert as you do

oh god yeah, using the duel pistols or single when incap vs the magnum is like night and day, its actually frustrating to get incap with them to me, i pick up a magnum as soon as i spot one / will go out of my way to look for one most of the time

Wow, you’ve been playing L4D2 since the L4D demo. It’s amazing that you were able to play it well before it was made 😂

I have retracted my comment, and I would like to apologize for my harsh words since it seems I misunderstood and would like to clarify. When you say the uzi has lower accuracy, do you mean it hits shots more than the silenced smg? Cause lower accuracy (at least to me) implies that it will miss more. I still think it's a bit odd to point out the reload specifically for the scar and the dps output when the scar has a comparable reload to the CS AR and the dps is only a tiny bit behind (and that's only if you sustain fire). The burst is a real con, but I think the per dmg, accuracy, and mag increase should make it above either the m16 or CS AR (whichever you prefer less of) especially since if you think either/or's an upgrade over the other since it is replicable but the quick, accurate, stronger burst of the scar isn't.

Nice vid bro

I can see this channel growing big in this little l4d community we've got!

What is your m16 and sg552 mod?

One thing with pump and chrome shotgun is that they can deal damage to tanks without drawback like the semi for some reason they didn't bother making tanks not have any resistance towards the pump shotguns.

@Shuji_the_great

14 күн бұрын

Incendiary ammo isn't all that helpful especially on the likes of hunter, jockey and charger. In l4d2 if I am correct a burning special infected that can latch onto you deals more damage when they're on fire the best case for this is the hunter.

I personally find the auto shotgun to be more effective than the combat shotgun, but more importantly to me I like its sound better

@trisfaleel

6 күн бұрын

makes sense it has more bullets and spread so it is easier to hit close range

I thought in TLS update they changed the Oxygen tank to draw commons. This video came out after TLS...

It's not called a desert eagle it's called the desert cobra

People love to talk about the AK but it's bullet spread and lack of accuracy has gotten me killed in multiple occasions. Namely when a smoker has pulled me. With a laser yes it's S+++ tier but without it it's just A tier for me. and i'd rather have the M16. I value accuracy over power especially on expert.

I always think I'm doing better with the Uzi than the silenced SMG

24:38 is that....Hatsune Miku tunnel?

@NormStorm

2 ай бұрын

yes I'm obsessed with the colour blue and am willing to endure questionable artwork anime girl tunnel of love if it means i can blue it up

@T69873

3 сағат бұрын

@@NormStormBy the way, what Desert Cobra/Desert Eagle magnum mod are you using in this video’s footage? I’d love to know what it is so I can play around with it myself!! 💯🤩

Can you do it for l4d1?

What’s the hunting rifle mod you have?

@NormStorm

6 ай бұрын

M1C Garand: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=862380713

I disagree on a few things. 1..i believe the auto shotgun is better than the combat shotgun. Why? Because of its spread. imo the spread is why you choose a shotgun and the wider spread means it functions better as a shotgun, plus more damage. If you crouch, the spread tightens up, so ive been in PLENTY of stuations where the auto shotgun carried me. Then when dealing with hordes, the wider spread means more infected per shot 2. The scar is better than the m16. The burst fire is better IMO because it requires 1 trigger pull per zombie vs the m16, which still takes 3 shots, but its easier to screw up.and either fire more than 3 or to miss because by the 2nd shot, the zombies zig zagging around. Theres also a trick with the scar where with special ammo if you press the shove immediately after firing, youll only expend one round instead of 3, which means then you get 60.rounds of special ammo vs either 40 or 50 with the others. Crouching with this weapon makes taking out special infected from a distance very good and though it has the slowest reload, it has the largest magazine. 3. Id say the grenade launcher is at least A tier. Yes its slow, but it can kill a tank within 6 direct hits and pair with fire ammo, makes a makeshift molotov. 4. Id say the molotov is better than the pipe bomb because 99% of the time when a horde spawns, you can back yourself into a room and the molotov will literally clear the whole horde. Its much helpful with tanks and if a special infected grabs you and its on fire, it can save you. The pipe bomb kinda sucks, especially on solo. The bots kill the zombies before it explodes, and alot of times goes off before all the zombies can get to it. Plus, if it lands in a corner or near an object, it can hinder its blast radius. 5. Id say the gas can as in the same tier as molotov just because its very easy to stage and although you can rely on their spawn points, they can do the job of the molotov while either carrying another throwable or saving your molotov. Those are my thoughts.

@Rysk1

Ай бұрын

Molotov and pipe bomb is on same level for me. Sometimes you have moments when there is a horde in open area where molotov does not work. Pipe bomb also can stop zombie push foe few seconds to recover and go to a better place for defend. m16 is garbage on expert, hard to kill weapon. I only take it when i don't have any special weapons or when i have tank and i don't have sniper rifle or ak, scar. Gas can I agree, i always take it because of tanks, then i have pipe bomb or boomer puke to rescue from horde.

whats the mod for the deagle

its mostly just because of favoritism but i think that the axe is the best melee

23:51 i need to know that miku mod

Why’d you stop uploading ? Are you still active on this channel ?

@NormStorm

2 ай бұрын

im still active and have been working on a piece, just been busy with life+work

25:42 that's exactly what it does though

I find it funny that you had friends with you. I have been trying to beat Is expert difficulty foy a long time and the bots are stupid.

@bearnummberone5072

Жыл бұрын

And the fact you have all the other guns that are not on console like bruh I have just wanted to find someone who will actually be helpfull.

@NormStorm

Жыл бұрын

@@bearnummberone5072 uuuh then why are you watching a weapon tierlist video? You should be watching my Expert guide then. Playing on expert with bots is really hard, watching an opinionated video about weapons is one of the least helpful things you can do for yourself. I even stress in this video that every weapon works and that they aren't as important as your throwable usage and team economy

@william4ng23

5 ай бұрын

@@NormStorm😂😂😂😂😂😂

Obviously a rookie. Everyone knows. In a experienced players hand these weapons are completely broken and unfair. Melee, autosniper hunting rifle, shotguns. Shotguns more for realism snipers more for non realism

@leonardo9259

Ай бұрын

Trying to argue deagle isn't S lmal

The Shovel is just cheff kiss🗿👌

Stopped watching this vid after puting deagle on S rank (should be cancer of l4d2 with all melee excluding chainsaw). If it was one time use like m60, gl and chainsaw with no ability to replenish ammo, it would be ok. But an ability to use deagle as a fooqin' primary weapon with infinite ammo and an ability to one shot commons in realism expert makes it op

@NessMotherBound

5 ай бұрын

You just explained exactly why it's in S tier

@brendendonohue2746

5 ай бұрын

Jeez you have no idea how game design works, do us all a favor and stay away from that occupation because your Magnum idea fu*king sucks lol.

@oldmwamwamilky1254

4 ай бұрын

you just explained why it’s good

@leonardo9259

Ай бұрын

Left 4 dead fans being dense

@vauxittt

25 күн бұрын

braindead hardcore Dark Souls fan sort of argument