The purpose of the first scene is to essentially show thaf Po and the Five are close enough that they hang out, like Po wanted in his dream in the first movie.

@lamegamertime

3 ай бұрын

imo the point was more that it doesn't serve enough of a purpose. Then again idk I haven't watched this movie

@mrlowkey4187

3 ай бұрын

​@@lamegamertimeI mean by that logic, the dream sequence in the first movie didn't serve a purpose either. The scene is like 30 seconds.

@lamegamertime

3 ай бұрын

​​​@@mrlowkey4187...and shows Po has a dream of adventure. That's a lot more than "they're chill like that", right?

@mrlowkey4187

3 ай бұрын

@@lamegamertime Not really? Po says several times throughout the movie that he dreams of being a martial artist, why do we need a dream sequence? The "they're chill like that" lasts like half a minute.

@lamegamertime

3 ай бұрын

@@mrlowkey4187 Because of "show don't tell" and also repetition.

Nah bro you’re wrong. I refuse to argue for my opinion*

@lightingmcqueen522

2 ай бұрын

No one even tried to

You could make up the argument that shifu didn't go with the furious 5 and Po to Gongmen City because that would leave the jade palace and the valley of peace defenseless, but then he goes to help out in the final act anyway... which then barely even mattered because he didn't really do much.

@spider-boy1962

3 ай бұрын

Well he went to save Po and the Five in the end because he got shot by one of Shen's cannons. He knew they needed the help so he took the risk to leave the Jade Palace behind I think.

@YSL8704

2 ай бұрын

​@@spider-boy1962 No, he didn't know Po was alive, he thought Po was dead, that man was out for BLOOD, if Po didn't save the five, he would've.

when i’m in a terrible opinion competition and my opponent is RSG 2: 😭

@kenl.3298

3 ай бұрын

Yeah good luck buddy, you're losing

So the thing with Shen being told hes destined to lose, i think the story is more about how he already knows that but just keeps grasping at straws to change his destiny. He destroys his own tower, kills one of his own men. Hes constantly shown to be scared because he already knows he's gonna lose to Po. They definitely couldve put more focus on it rather than the furious 5 of course though

@thickmama3055

3 ай бұрын

yeah i agree, i think his inability to let go contrast with Po who comes to terms with his families death and accepts it for what it is.

@Lillenmedmillen

3 ай бұрын

I’ve heard a fan theory about this, which is that Sheng was actually the one to defeat himself (since he’s also black and white). By constantly trying to move away from the truth he only led himself closer to his own destiny, which is why in the end he has an opportunity to change, but rather duels it out to the death and IN THE END ends up breaking the mast which then begins tumbling down on him. Only then does he realize that his naiveness was his own demise and in his final moments, rather than cowering or screaming in disbelief, he just closes his eyes and finally accepts his fate. Now that’s powerful

@isauldron4337

3 ай бұрын

​@@Lillenmedmillenproblem is he's White black AND red

@pancakes590

Ай бұрын

Not to mention, Shen’s inability to let go of his pride and see the big picture destroyed him. He’s essentially his own enemy.

never let bro cook again.

It just seems like you're heavily nitpicking on a lot of things or you just straight up do not understand the characters as well as you think you do. For example the intro when you say Po eating in front of the Five adds nothing to the story aside from jokes. However the point of it was to show Po's dream from the first movie of becoming a Kung Fu master and to become friends with the Five, which is exactly what he got. He does things his own goofy way but they support him. Even Tigress, someone who was the most tough to Po and didn't really have a sense of humor even around the Five in the first movie, fully developed into a person that genuinely cares for Po a lot and is supporting him despite him doing something as goofy as eating food. You say Tigress getting development and more of a personality is weak but then you bring up the argument that the Five does nothing but make jokes? Well which do you want? Seems you can't even make up your mind on that. Po and Tigress relationship is perfect in my opinion, something that 3 made the mistake of by completely sidelining it. They relate to each other very much as Tigress was an orphan, she feels for Po's reasons to learn about his parents. Also Shifu making fun of Po for being the Dragon Warrior is not out of character. Shifu has literally fucked with Po many times in the first movie, example is the dumpling scene when he tries to eat his food. If I had to guess btw, Shifu not being in the movie much was because he had to protect the Valley of Peace while they were gone but after Po got shot by Shen's canon, he knew he had to come save him and the Five. Him coming to help them in the final battle was truly an epic moment and he still served a purpose in the movie despite very little screentime. He's thanking Shifu btw for what he did for him on his entire journey and for his help taking down Shen in the end. He didn't have to be in the movie much for that line to work. As for Shen, the montage between him and Po is amazing imo. Yes they didn't interact with each other yet when that scene happened but it's a cool build up between two characters that are actually very similar and Shen's connection to Po is very good in this movie. They already established that throughout the film, they don't need to have them meet to make it impactful because those stories for them alone is what makes it exciting. Shen kept destroying himself because of his parents while Po let his past be apart of him and didn't let it distract what he had now. Shen was afraid of Po when Soothsayer foretold about him and I think deep down he knew he would lose. Which is why he decided to end it in the finale. Not even sure how you can say this film feels more aimed towards kids so much when that's literally not the case at all. This is easily the darkest film in the series, hell one of the darkest animated films PERIOD. You literally have genocide at the very start of the film, Po's traumatic thoughts/visions, Shen killing even his OWN MEN, Shen killing some of the biggest Kung Fu masters, Shen destroying the home his parents raised him in, Po's mother sacrificing herself, and even Shen killing himself. You can argue the Five lacks development in this movie and they should've done more but I'd argue they're not entirely just there for jokes. They are there for Po in important moments like the boat scene or the scene in Gongmen jail, it's just Tigress usually steals the spotlight. They can have serious dialogue though. I like the Five quite a bit in this movie despite them having less to do, similar to Shifu, they DID serve a purpose. I absolutely love this movie. It's an amazing, emotional, funny, and very good action driven experience. Giving it a 5/10 is absolutely wild in my opinion. I give it a 10/10 and it's personally my favorite movie of all time. I still stand by that fact.

@Trollboi_farded69420

3 ай бұрын

Very well thought out compared to this,honestly,garbage vid Not because of his opinion But Well,it's a doctor skipper situation.Someone pretending to have done research and know what they're talking about,when they haven't. Also yeah,how tf is this movie kiddified? Kung fu panda 3 was,but it was still decent. Meanwhile this has the villain literally commit mass genocide and choose to kill himself just to not let po have satisfaction.

@koreancowboy42

Ай бұрын

Welcome to the shitty KZread section. Where people like the youtuber is really bad at their own criticism for not understanding the overall movie.

@hellomate2405

25 күн бұрын

kung fu panda 2 is a worthy sequel. End of discussion

@DigimontamerB

19 күн бұрын

No nitpicking would still be legit criticism. He's literally misrepresenting what happens in the film.

6:43 "he does have a more personal connection to Po but it doesn't result in anything mind blowing" as Shen committs mass genocide😂

Actually my favorite kung fu Panda movie 😅, idk its just cool and works

@aarkproductions

3 ай бұрын

It's a much more profound movie in it's ideologies of inner piece and zen, but to each his own

@spider-boy1962

3 ай бұрын

My favorite movie of all time, no joke.

@DigimontamerB

19 күн бұрын

There are a metric shit ton of reasons it works. You don't have to justify it to this clown, he's actually just a pretentious contrarian.

Did we watch the same movie?

@spider-boy1962

3 ай бұрын

Deadass These critiques are such shit, it's like he didn't understand so much of the movie and didn't get the characters themselves.

@sl4yer134

3 ай бұрын

@@spider-boy1962what’s crazy is he says the first scene adds nothing to the story. I’m like bro 😂 The whole point of the opening showing Po and the five hang out is to show that they’re all close friends that have fun since for the majority of the first they didn’t respect Po.

@spider-boy1962

3 ай бұрын

@@sl4yer134 or when he says Shifu making fun of Po for being the dragon warrior feels out of character when the first movie literally has shown many times that Shifu has fucked with Po a lot. Like the dumpling scene for example when he prevents Po from eating. 😭

@sl4yer134

3 ай бұрын

@@spider-boy1962 Yeah 😂 What’s wild is that he loves the first one and actually gave a great review on it but didn’t like kfp 2. Imo I do think the first one is stronger but 2 gives way more depth into Po and the emotional beats hit hard with his backstory making a perfect sequel.

@ferociousrazordino3581

3 ай бұрын

@@spider-boy1962 and its even more weird because he gets the first film

How is it uncharacteristic of shifu to mock po he did that 99% of the first movie

ok, this guy is intentionally mispronouncing words for engagement. Have a bit of integrity, my dude.

@Trollboi_farded69420

3 ай бұрын

Doctor skipper 2:electric boogaloo

Who let him cook?🤨

Aight, I watched this a year ago and 100% thought this was the best one of the trilogy because the villain is actually Po’s rather than a random tough dude. Ima go back and watch it now to check.

@harryhurrell9437

3 ай бұрын

Yep still loved it.

I concede a few points you made and I get most your point of view but I personally think it's a really good movie, I respect your opinion though.

I don't think Shifu's joke was out of character seeing as he was fucking with Po while he was training him; you can literally pause the movie to see the singe frame of him rushing past the screen to grab the dumpling.

I don't mind the five mostly being joke machines since it at least gives them some semblance of a character. unlike the first movie where the only one who really had a character was Tigress; and maybe crane but that might be because he actually has a couple lines that aren't jokes, whereas the other three either don't talk or only say 1-2 throwaway lines. I'd also say that while rushed i do like how Po completes his arc in this movie, it at least does it through music and visuals instead of explaining what he learns. however, i think the biggest misstep in this movie is explaining what happened to the pandas in the first scene and why they "died." if that was left a mystery then the entire middle chunk of this movie would not feel like a waste of time by spending most of it on Po trying to solve a mystery the audience already knows the full picture of. and I do like Shen as a villain. yea he's clowned on by the seer but this is clearly already a more lighthearted or comedic typical dreamworks movie unlike the first one. I think most of why I like him though is because of the performance Gary Oldman delivers in this movie. it's definitely more entertaining and easier to sit through than the third movie; and i don't even think i'll bother watching the fourth.

The irony of using a Schaffrillas clip here when he considers it to be one of the best Dreamworks movies ever lol Edit : The timing is uncanny.

@MrRobot-0

3 ай бұрын

The joke is saying then "yeah the opposite of that"

even with perfection you can’t satisfy everyone

i call it a masterpiece you just have to watch all 3 and the 2nd ones message actually becomes so much more meaningful then the 1st and the 3rd movie. the 2nd movies message is about letting go of the past and coming to an understand that what happened in the past happened and nothing will change that but accepting it is better then dwelling on it also not to get caught up on revenge

The end completely caught me off guard💀

What??? The first training scene doesn't add anything except being funny? Dude, it shows the growth and development of their relationship. It shows that apart from being fighting partners, Po and the five have truly become good friends who can joke and have fun together. Most importantly, it shows the change in Tigress. In the first movie she was so serious and uptight, belittling Po for treating everything like a joke. This scene shows beautifully how she has let go of that and is able to relax, have fun and just enjoy the friendship. She realized that not everything has to be about training and kung fu, and it's all thanks to Po. . Just from this point alone, I can tell that you don't know what you're talking about. The movie is so good and yet this is what you nitpick as a problem...?

Idk, inner peace isn’t like a thing where a person gets told some insane shit and you realize, the belief is you already have everything inside and anything can set the thing off, like in siddhartha a guy just dies and siddhartha is like “dam” the video makes me want to watch the three kung fu pandas and then have a proper response tho

I always took the fate thing as Shen killing himself as he is also a warrior of Black and White and ultimately, it was Shen who killed himself by literally cutting the strings of fate that separated the two. It's a very flawed movie but I think it's my favourite.

Kinda weird to keep cutting to a picture of the director for some of your criticisms. Like… never the writer… or the animator, or the person who’s actually related to your criticism. Is it just… this director is different from first so it must be her fault? Feels weird.

1:55 The first movie also had different story writers than the other three.

I am devastated that this isn't satire. Im just gonna point out YOUR flaws or atleast counterargue a lot of nitpicks you take on this film. 1. Just because the franchise is directed by different people, isn't always going to end horrible, and in this case, your saying that because they had Jennifer Yuh Nelson shaped the approach of the sequel differently, it resulted in the film's quality to worsen and have a more child audience effect in the movie which both are very conflicting statements since if anything, the sequel included many different art style choices such as the opening of KFP2, Po's dream and flashbacks of his childhood, and the journey to gongmen city, where both Shen and Po have conflicting color's that represent as a yin yang that splits up their path of peace. 2. Many of the color hues in the sequel such as the color red are used successfully when the flashbacks of shen comes around, or when shen appears. It shows off the amount of bloodshed Shen leaves behind and the devastation he leaves behind. 3. To say that 'there were many moments to please child audiences' is insane considering that Shen as a whole caused a genocide, which was shown in both the opening and flashbacks to children. He also killed Po's mother, Thundering Rhino, Wolf Boss and half of his army by sword or cannon. In fact, a lot of the jokes stop once shen opens his fantail to Po, revealing a hidden dark truth that could unveil Po's trauma and it is heavily focused when Po does try to find the truth, Shen mocks him and later says 'Your parent's didn't love you' to an emotionally broken down Po sets up Shen as this conniving, manipulative, and narcissistic villian who will attempt to stop his failures via whether be by cannons, his army, or his words twisting the truth proves him to be a vile person because of how he thinks disturbingly highly of himself and his ways of removing anything that could be his eventual destiny. 4. How is tigress ruined, seriously, in what way do you not understand character development. The first film implied that tigress work her ass off as top ranked kung fu warrior, thinking that she would be selected as the dragon warrior only to have a fat useless panda to rob her destiny. She takes great offense and only belittles Po and will say any hurtful thing to discourage Po to stay on the path as the dragon warrior such as recounting Tai Lung's childhood and later comparing Po to seem bad about himself. In the end, she sees his actual worthiness as the dragon warrior and finally shows respect to him. In the second film, it continues off with it and grows her character to a greater extant. Tigress tries to emotionally comfort Po when Po has those flashbacks because she knows how it feels to not know who their parents were or if they ever cared about them, therefore she drops the 'hardcore' and really does offer help such as hugging Po, telling him that she doesn't want to lose another person, giving us a sense that Po isn't alone in his venture of finding his parents whereabouts and she becomes 'hardcore' because Lord Shen is about to leave the port withi his cannons and supply of weapons and explosives to all o China, so obviously she has to stop him from conquering and destroying all of Kung Fu. Hell, Tigress pushes Po off from experiencing a greater impact from Shen's Giant Cannon after she failed to save him in Shen's Factory and after po narrowly escapes Shen's Ship exploding, Tigress pulls Po from the water and Po proceeds to hug her, showing that deep down, she really did care about Po's sake as a friend. 5. I feel like you didn't go through what Shifu said to Po, like at all since both him and the Soothsayer explain that, it is necessary to confront the problem and process it to achieve inner peace with your past rather than to escape it, otherwise you might get the worse receiving end like Shen did and that quote echos once Po prepares to fling off a speeding firey cannonball heading towards him. 6. Literally they saw their own leader from the very beginning of their journey of Kung Fu and friendship die from Shen's Cannon, of course they're gonna back down because they physically can't stop a cannonball and don't want to die becaue of his cannon. 7. Rushed and weak writing? Jesus, watch modern Disney films or something with the same garbage as that, I really wonder what good taste you have in films or if your reviews are any better. 8. Po's veture of finding inner peace is what drives the story further, he unlocks an abrupt memory from his past, tells his closest friend about it, seeks the truth from his adoptive father to Lord Shen himself, soon finds out the tragic truth and rather than running away from it, he accepts it and understands that the past will always be that way, but whats important is what he has now, which builds up both the story and his growth as a whole. 9. As i said before, Po acts childish because he hasn't met Shen yet and and after their confrontation, he does try to settle out with Shen and it ends badly, further digging this sad mentality Po conjures upon because of Shen's actions. 10. Did you bother to acknowledge Shen's perspective of his destiny? The reason of why he is always reminded of that destiny is becaue no matter how many changes he makes to stop his destiny from ever reaching him such as killing an entire race of pandas and later blasting off Po himself, doesn't make his destiny go away which drives Shen into a descent of madness, only wasting every chance he has to change his murderous ways, further sealing his fate. 11. I don't understand how both aren't equally as good, both stopping Tai Lung from getting immense power and them stopping a large cannon that could've singlehandedly wiped them off from existence and could also destroy Kung Fu as a whole. 12. Lord Shen letting soothsayer live shows that despite the amount of carnage he has unleashed, he still has this sense of care towards the soothsayer since she's always with him in his early and now later life and was a way to signal whether his destiny was approaching further to his end. Even when he frees the Soothsayer, he has a sense of uneasiness to his current situation since he freed both his guidance that could determine his end and the only person that stuck to him the end. Therefore, he has this deep care embedded towards her than his men. Your video as a whole is a yin yang between your god awful take and Schaffrillas's take on KFP2. My only advice is to watch his review or other KFP2 reviews about it. It might change your twisted warp of view to this film, or not. But I agree that KFP1 was honestly terrific in its own way but for you to say that the sequel didn't continue off from it as good as KFP1 is absurd. At the end of the day, it is your opinion, a fucking shitty one at best, so im not looking foward to your other reviews.

@Trollboi_farded69420

3 ай бұрын

Doctor skipper 2:electric boogaloo

@ferociousrazordino3581

3 ай бұрын

i'm glad ppl are calling it out in the comments

@koreancowboy42

Ай бұрын

Peoppe should call out

This is the most overly critical 8 minutes on KZread.

Ur Opinion is Invalid

@LightOfMyLife227

4 күн бұрын

Why?

Cars 2 is the best Cars by the way. I'll die on that hill.

@RSG200

3 ай бұрын

The cars movies do be having a mid off

@arkimedeez

3 ай бұрын

😂 nice one you got me

@thatonesonicfanalsoenthusi4049

3 ай бұрын

Y E S THATS WHAT IM SAYING

@finixmoon127

3 ай бұрын

The correct opinion

@LightOfMyLife227

4 күн бұрын

Fr

Can you imagine this guy watching good will hunting? He'd be bitching about the iconic Robin talking about his wife scene

Genuinely, I would really like to see you talk about shounen anime or anime in general. Apologies for the request; I'm just curious about your opinion on the subject.

I remember as a kid: I loved the first one, didnt like the second one, and when the third one came out I thought it was kinda eh but I could enjoy watching it. Then I heard online that the second one was really good, so I went back and watched it, thought it was kind of cool but not interesting. Now I would say: still love the first one, can appreciate parts of the second but have absolutely no desire to rewatch it again, and the third one is just not close to the first one, but I can enjoy watching it.

I’ve heard a fan theory which is that Sheng was actually the one to defeat himself. By constantly trying to move away from the truth he only led himself closer to his destiny, which is why in the end he has an opportunity to change, but rather duels it out to the death and IN THE END ends up breaking the mast which then begins tumbling down on him. Only then does he realize that his naiveness was his own demise and in his final moments, rather than cowering or screaming in disbelief, he just closes his eyes and finally accepts his fate.

1:27 “this shit is ..”

It's funny that you used a Schaffrillas Productions clip cause he just realeased a video called "Why Kung Fu Panda 2 is a Worthy Sequel" lol

Honestly I would love to see you talk about kaiju honestly.. Sorry if im asking.

@RSG200

3 ай бұрын

I am not familiar at all with that stuff. I've heard actual good things about the godzilla movie tho. But yeah the only thing ive watched was like godzilla 2014, kong skull island, and like pacific rim if that counts.

@IsahaqD

3 ай бұрын

@@RSG200 sweet

@Trollboi_farded69420

3 ай бұрын

​@@IsahaqD is that cause this guy is just doctor skipper Cause this review radiates skipper energy.

Movie is fine imo but Shen is my favourite animated villain. His voice, style, looks all are amazing.

whats the music at 4:37?

My little decade ago brain always thought of it as "they go to a new place and goof around" so pretty cool that someone thinks the same... first one is REALLY fucking good and the others go down one by one, with the burn unfortunately being worse every time

Hazbin hotel character reviews a great movie

Finally, someone sees that KFP 1>2 Though, 5/10 is too low

Wow that was something of a video

Sorry guys i have to agree the second one wasnt good

@spider-boy1962

2 ай бұрын

Then you don't understand cinema 😭💀

@koreancowboy42

Ай бұрын

Then you definitely don't have good taste

who let bro cook‼️

Bro iwl you over scrutinise the movie and scenes that are fine, like how did the movie feel rushed

2:00 talks about the same movie that is about the main character going through his past trauma and identity crisis…sure 😅

i agree it has its problems with deligating roles to secondary characters and undermining the villain but a 5? it's a solid 7/8. it is rushed but it achieves what it sets out to do. while the five get sidelined its to give pos story more focus. top comment points out the table scene is to show the comradery grown between movies, and the teachings do make it through in execution, albiet lacking impact. think its highs lift up the lows enough tp justify its existance as a sequel.

More like FLAWLESS sequel!

This video is absolute justice for me. I've been thinking all this stuff for years, especially the tone issues with Shen. The lack of a resulting comnection between Po and Shen based on a lack of build up, and the unclearness of the message. Thank you for finally saying what I've always thought!

They finna drag you for this :/

Nah u aint

Nah bad take

Gotta politely disagree on this one. I personally am not much a fan of the dumb mind numbing humor, and we certainly could have exchanged it for more cool scenes with Shen. But overall I really liked this one, loved the villain.

i disagree but pls dont call me stupid ):

I just wanna know: Who the hell thougt that having different writers every other movie is a good idea???

@giovonniiclayton

3 ай бұрын

Facts man shit makes no sense to me,while I enjoy these different movies and series they should really stick to the writers that start the these things

@koreancowboy42

Ай бұрын

Why? Kung fu panda 2 and 3 didn't end too badly. Maybe yall just have horrible taste

@ThePrincessCH

Ай бұрын

It's hardly the first time. Most of Disney's sequels were created by a separate corporate entity.

@mpguy24

19 күн бұрын

The movie actually had a different Director not writers, just make a quick google search to see this info, and plus its a common practice to have different writers, doesn't mean the thing is bad, for example Breaking Bad has different writers for different episodes, so by your logic is that show bad?

super duper early

I hardly ever disregard someone's opinion, but this time you're mostly just wrong No hate though, noboby is perfect

This is pure, amateur, contrarian, pretentious film student malarkey.

Pinned

the first kung fu panda movie existed for itself. This movie existed for its sequels, which is a flawed way to write.

@gattlinggolduck6373

Күн бұрын

What does that even mean?

I’ve never heard such yapping in years… this movie is a masterpiece and is the best movie I have ever watched… the dark and emotional tone is way better then the original and dude wtf are you talking about with we all knew po was gonna win. Everyone was defeated he was half injured on a mini island with the whole army of shen in front of him. I haven’t heard anything about the music or the ending. Both are phenomenal and they’re way bette then 3 but imo 2 is the greatest dreamworks movie of all time

I have to agree. KFP 2 was not as good as the KFP 1 for a couple a reasons. 1. KFP 2 did not do well, balancing between the jokes and seriousness. KFP 2 focused too much on jokes and its worse that the jokes were not really funny either. An example is the scene in KFP 2, when Shifu was talking to Po, that scene was not funny in the slightest. I guess Shifu forgot the day when Tai Lung, who was like his, became a raging psychopath and tried to kill countless innocents. It makes Shifu more of a piece of shit. KFP 1, Shifu was a jackass to Po, but you think Shifu gotten used to Po, especially the fact Po was the only one, who beat Tai Lung unlike Shifu and the Furious 5. Po went through hell in KFP 1, when became the dragon warrior. Shifu constantly insulted and abused Po until later, Po stood up and called out Shifu. Shifu even realized he was wrong. 2. The characters were not done as well as the 1st movie. Po - KFP 2, Po was too goofy, hyper, and even dumber than he was in the 1st movie. In KFP 1, Po was a little goofy and hyper but it wasn't too much or overdone. Po had scenes that were emotional and serious. Po even knew when shit was going down, it was not the time to act silly. Like the scene in KFP 1 when Po and the Furious 5 had dinner. Shifu told Po, he's the only who can stop Tai Lung. Po thought he was joking then saw Shifu was serious, Po immediately ran away because Po knows how evil Tai Lung is. Shifu tried to stop Po but Po calls Shifu out, telling Shifu, he never believed in him, tried to get rid of him but Po only stayed because he wanted to be more than already is. That scene showed Po was serious and emotional and did not act silly. In KFP 2, Po does not take situations seriously and was goofing around most of time. Scenes like Po and the 5 trying sneak through the city, apparently Po doesn't know how to do stealth correctly. Guess he didn't train for that for some reason. Po destroys a miniature version of the canon, somehow not noticing the big ass canon in front him. Later in the movie, Po remembers what happen to his home. The movie made Po look like he was gonna be a little more serious but later the movie makes Po be a joke once again, when he is yelling at Shen but he can't hear Po and then Po throws the hat but it does nothing. It seems KFP 2 was trying so hard to make Po a joke or buffoon. That's bad, all it does is undermined Po, as the main character. Tigress - I got to be honest. KFP 1, Tigress wasn't much, she was just the tough female character, who was jealous and mad of Po because Oogway chosen Po to be the dragon warrior. Tigress had a few lines but it wasn't much. KFP 2, I wouldn't say they ruined Tigress. Its more like they just didn't give Tigress anything else to work with. They tried to have her like she is tough but she has feelings all that, but they way they did does not work. Tigress doesn't tell anything about herself, her backstory, nothing. The boat scene should been Tigress talking to Po about why she didn't like Po at first but later realized she was wrong for acting like a bitch to Po in 1st movie, but no, instead they have a little scene, Tigress says she punched iron trees, whatever its called, makes her feel nothing, which literally adds nothing to her character except, look how tough she is. Shen - I like Shen but its bad, they have an a old goat character that mocks and make fun of Shen, when he is the main villain, especially when the movie tries to make Shen look more threatening. I understand some people like KFP 2, but to me, its really not as good as KFP 1.

@koreancowboy42

Ай бұрын

Focused too much on jokes and yet we were shown Panda genocide what joke is that?

@ThePrincessCH

Ай бұрын

I don't know if jealousy is the right term to describe Tigress' attitude towards Po in the first film. She put in the work to be the Dragon Warrior her entire life but lost to an untrained novice who fell from the sky. Po does at least try, but his training was kind of last minute.

@supergz8054

Ай бұрын

@@koreancowboy42 They only showed 2 scenes of the genocide that barley showed much. I'm not saying the movie needs to show a 10 minute genocide and its more violent in a kids movie and I never said the movie is all jokes, I said it focused too much on the jokes. Beside the 2 genocide scenes that were short and a few scenes, the rest of the movie is all jokes. This is the same movie that has the main villain commit Panda genocide and yet gets disrespected by an old goat.

@supergz8054

Ай бұрын

​@@ThePrincessCH Tigress may have worked for a long time to be the dragon warrior, but that is not a good excuse of Tigress to mistreat Po, who she does not know in the slightest. Tigress had irrational anger towards Po, that was clear in the 1st movie, Po did not choose himself to be the dragon warrior, Oogway was the one who chose him. Tigress was constantly mocking Po, you would think that she would have thought Oogway chose him for a reason but clearly even she doubted Oogway. If anything Tigress should have confronted Oogway that he made the wrong decision, but it was obvious she wouldn't do it. That's why I believe jealousy is a part of it, if it was not, then apparently Tigress was mad at Po for being chosen, so she mocked him for it, which is weird and wrong of her. She did not have to like Po but she didn't have to insult him either.

@ThePrincessCH

Ай бұрын

@@supergz8054 I suppose, but in regards to the boat scene, the film seems to establish that a certain amount of time has passed between the two films, so why would Tigress need to explain her dislike for Po during the first film, if they've already established a relationship within the gap between the two films?

I never understood the hype around kung fu panda 2. The story is weaker compared to the first.

Kung fu panda 2 is perfection and i wont allow anyone to even talk shit about it

Bad take. As many are currently agreeing down below.

I don't know if I agree with everything here, but I think you put into words a lot of why I always preferred the first one. I'm honestly surprised this isn't a more common opinion. The movie isn't terrible, but the first one was a lot more impactful. There are a lot of things which are "cool" and "funny" which don't serve to build things the way that the first movie did, where the cool and funny stuff were also adding to the plot/characters the entire time. I think that having a more comedic tone isn't necessarily bad, but it doesn't work if the jokes aren't pushing the plot forward the same way. The main things I feel that I disagree with is that I think that the interactions with the Furious Five help to show that they've accepted him, and I remember liking Tigress in the movie. I'd need to rewatch it though to know if I feel strongly about those things though.

This is the opinion of all time.

the thing I dislike the most about KFP2 is how simple and straightforward the character's plots feel in comparison to 1. In KFP1 you have a sort of "triangle" with Shifu, Tai-Lung, and Po, all with the same thing they need to do to find peace: realising Po is the Dragon Warrior. But each character goes about realising this differently (and Tai-Lung fails at it). KFP2 has two main characters instead of 3, and Po and Shen are just not interesting as foils to each other. I really do believe people mostly praise KFP2 for the villain (Shen)'s design and voice acting (nevermind the fact he's just a weak version of Frieza from DB).

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My biggest problem with kung fu panda 2 is that it isnt as impactful as the last one like the first movie literally made me cry the second movie i felt nothing while watching it.

@spider-boy1962

3 ай бұрын

The inner peace scene and ending where Po hugs his dad always makes me cry But okay

@koreancowboy42

Ай бұрын

Not impactful as they showed the ending where his actual father is alive and the Pandas are indeed alive. And also that Po is brought to the burnt and pillaged panda village to relive and remember his past. And also his concern for tigress when the cannon blast went off on all of them

This movie definitely isn’t a 5 but the flaws are there. Acceptance being its biggest message was conveyed really well and even though it was more kid-ified I still think it did a pretty ok job. Later dreamworks movies like last wish show that better but eh growing pains ig.

Bro, no one is stopping you from disliking a movie. We respect all opinions here, even wrong ones. You didn't have to make a rambling video essay to justify why you dislike Kung Fu Panda 2, that's just silly.

@koreancowboy42

Ай бұрын

Facts, he just has the dumbest shot take

@ThePrincessCH

Ай бұрын

People make rambling videos about their dislikes all the time.

But the first movie was directed by white dudes and the sequels were directed by an asian woman It's a movie about asian themes, therefore if the director is asian too, the movies are better That's what Twitter has taught me, I'm very smart

Damn, I agree with this review lol.

Kung fu panda 2? More like Kung poo pooda poo 😎

listen man, i havent finished the video yet, I love this movie, even though yes it is objectively worse than the first one. your thoughts on this one dont concern me. what does is the potential video for your thoughts on the third movie. i truly hope you rip Kung-Fu panda 3 a new asshole because i think KFP3 is one of the worst movies ever made. genuinely fuck that movie.

@spider-boy1962

3 ай бұрын

It's fine to not like Kung Fu Panda 3 but come on it really isn't that bad I quite enjoyed it despite it's flaws 💀

Guys is this movie ass or pass

@Tobberias

3 ай бұрын

neve seen it in my life

@adoyo

3 ай бұрын

Pass for me

@grildrago

3 ай бұрын

Pass, it’s entertaining enough. Yes, my standard is that low

@Unknownt-uu7td

3 ай бұрын

Bro there is nothing wring about with this movie, po’s and k makes sense tigress was fine shifu staying makes sense, shifu starting with inner peace makes sense, the destiny plot is fine; all the montages are fine, the false victory is fine, Shen was defo terrifying, him saying free her is quite stupid admittedly😂, but its still a master piece movie. I think you just have to be over scrutinising these films for views or something at this stage, but its entertaining so whatever

@chilldude1232

3 ай бұрын

Best in the trilogy imo

him : kfp 1.... me : 🤨 him : masterpiece me : true him : kfp 2.... me : an even bigger masterpiece him : uhhhh.. me : *clicks off video*

This take is trash

To me the more i think about it the more i feel like this movie had so much more potential! Even so to be better then the first movie. But alas that potential was wasted with a shit writing team!

I disagree but you do you

Thank you, for helping me find inner peace. I though I was the only one who despised this movie. The only reason this movie is regarded as masterpiece, is because everything else nowadays is garbage in comparison. The first time I watched in cinemas I said: The only thing of value in this movie, is the villain Shen, he is awesome. And to this day, I consider him one of the best villains ever.

Lmao, you still have no experience

That's a really strange, long way of saying "I'm a fucking moron" but to each their own, I guess.

Finally! someone who agrees with me about this movie! after i watched this trilogy again i was suprised about how bad this one is! after i told my brothers about my thoughts they thought i was full of crap (they havent seen the movie in years) every point maade in this video are my complaints exactly. (except the fact that i dont like the action, especially after the amazing action of the first movie)

@RSG200

3 ай бұрын

Yeah the action is nowhere near the first movie. But it's good when compared to most movies imo

@spider-boy1962

3 ай бұрын

@@RSG200 the action is literally better tf are you two on

Honestly I prefer Shen over Tai lung mainly because he's a more personal villain to Po. as cool as tai lung he was ultimately just a spoiled and arrogant brat to Po, who only cared about him because he was declared the dragon warrior soo he might have spared him in case he won. Meanwhile Shen DESPISES Po just for existing because as he saw the prophecy he was completely consumed by fear for his life and that fear quickly turned into hatred leading him to burn the local panda village and hunt down every panda he could find. But that wasn't enough he was consumed by his own hatred which turned into an hatred for Kung-fu (probably because the prophecy said that the panda was a master of kung-fu), yeah it's another one of those tropes about the foreseen future only happening because it was foreseen in the first place but I kind of like how they used it in the movie. Another reason why I like Shen is how he planned to wipe-out kung-fu and conquer China. With cannons. I think that it shows too important aspects of Shen first, He's not a kung-fu master and he knows it, he knows that no matter how much mercenaries and bandits he recruits or how much he trains they're all ultimately no match to a proper master of Kung-fu who are shown time and time again to be one-man-army against anything that isn't a fellow martial artist and soo he turns to fireworks and invent the cannon to counter them and it showed. We didn't saw much but from Po master Rhino was like one of the most experienced and powerful master of kung-fu still around at the time and he was oneshotted by one of shen basic cannons and nothing was left of him except his pieces of his hammer. Which also mirrors an event that happened IRL. the end of the age of the medieval knights. Unsurprisingly ending by the might of gunpowder as guns and artilleries like cannons became accurate and cheap enough that in a matter of half an hour at worst a random peasant could threaten a legendary knight in shining armor with countless dying by flintlock wielding bandits or cannon armed peasants, in turn causing knights to go extinct as they were no match and weren't able to adapt. And it's why I think he's a better villain tai lung was just a narcissist trying to prove that he's the strongest one of all (not dissing on tai lung I still like him as a character and villain and I can see why some people might prefer him over Shen) meanwhile Shen is an harbinger of change and one who had it not been stopped would have changed the world to make it closer to ours. TL; DR: Shen better because tai lung is a spoiled brat virgin while Shen is a scheming gigachad mastermind BTW this is JUST MY OPINION I repeat *MY OPINION*

Trash take

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Please tell me this is one massive joke. Because it’s really embarrassing

This is the most overly critical 8 minutes on KZread.