I own a 790 Duke. Quick owners review. Overall: This bike feels safe and fun. 9/10 Engine: Awesome. Feels like a mix between a single and a V-Twin. Tons of character, so much better than a sewing machine inline 4 cylinder. Lumpy yet smooth. Plenty of torque. You can do what you want with this engine. Powerband very wide. 9/10 Quickshifter 8/10 Well Useful Suspension. 7/10 only bad on very rutted roads. In 90% of riding it is spot on. Driver modes 10/10 Brakes 7/10 but still good, decent. Usable. Comfort/Riding position. 8/10. Easy to ride, ergos good. 2 hours between breaks no problem. Great comfy but sporty riding position. Fuel economy. 9/10 60.1 mpg on a 160 mile A road blast. Standard exhaust. Great 8/10. Pops and crackles. As good sounding as a standard exhaust can be for Euro4 compliant. A laugh. Akrapovic: Hard Engineered the fixed DB killer out of it then it sounds good, bassy, still not loud enough. Look else for after market exhaust or stick to the standard. Display 8/10. Very readable, useable. Not as good as the Triumph Street Triple RS screen or F850gs optional screen but still very tidy. Value for money 9/10 Verdict. I love it. I’ve owned a lot of bikes but I can’t see myself selling this. It’s a lovely combination, very easy to ride, handles well, confidence inspiring, feels quick, not mental quick but loads of fun. Is surprisingly good on motorways, Windblast OK up to about 103mph then you might have to think about tucking down. KTM know what they are doing don’t they. Put a lot of knowledge and experience into this bike and have built one hell of a middleweight road bike.

@rutgerGoretex

4 жыл бұрын

Is it suitable for tall riders?

@Drew-yy4sp

4 жыл бұрын

Rutger I’m 6’5 and Works fine for me

@volt7cooltangs701

4 жыл бұрын

Rutger It’s a bit small maybe

@boomerhgt

3 жыл бұрын

Drew Your kidding the bike is tiny 6ft 5 your going to look like King Kong on it and that's the truth.

@robertmassive5335

3 жыл бұрын

can soeone use a 790 for a beginner bike?

It's a very good cost cutting technique to only include one mirror.

@SpurgeonDunbar

5 жыл бұрын

Haha... Our press bike had one of its mirrors damaged in shipping.

@jasper_mehringer

5 жыл бұрын

it is called the "scalpel"

@Nitman345

5 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣

@vicky1129

5 жыл бұрын

Hahaha Lol Lots of logic 😂😂

@twttwowheeltechnology3703

4 жыл бұрын

Hahaaa lol

I bought one as soon as they arrived in NZ in September. When taking it for a test ride I was completely blown away by the engine and the handling which is nothing short of epic! I've owned many inline fours and a few singles and this parallel twin absolutely nailed it for me. The torque delivery does take a bit of getting used to but it is punchy as hell when you're a couple thousand miles in and have learnt how to use it properly! I normally change to street mode (on the fly) when I'm heading into traffic and back into sport mode when it opens up a bit. This sorts the "fuelling problem" which I haven't experienced when the engine has warmed up sufficiently, you're in the right riding mode for the conditions, and you have a tank of high octane fuel

@angshumansarmah6626

4 жыл бұрын

Dude ... you need to make a video on your bike and the modifications you've done. 🤘

@mcrisare

3 жыл бұрын

The way you explain it you realy need to start your own chanel.. for real!!

@sund5

2 жыл бұрын

Wow thanks a lot!

Engine heat: EPA requires VERY LEAN air-fuel ratios in the first half of the rev range. Fix with Powercommander. Suspension: Just like the Z900/RS, the MT-09, the GSX-S750/1000, and a few Euro bikes in the segment, YOU GOTTA FIX THEM AFTERMARKET. Rottweiler Performance has all the 790 parts you need for fully adjustable cartridges and shocks. Brakes: comes with radial 4-pot, stainless braided lines. Swap in a set of EBC HH pads. Done. Tires: Most OEM tires are plastic on these sub 12-grand machines. MT-09, Z900, etc for example. 790 is no different. Exhaust: just find a full system, tune it with the aforementioned Powercommander. You'll love the rumble/bark, and it will have more midrange pull. Big money after factory? Which bike in the middle-displacement sporty segment doesn't need just about the same identical things? Treat these bikes as a canvass upon which to paint your favorite parts. Take the best canvass and make it your own picture.

@TheRemizinho

4 жыл бұрын

Lifted_Above why spend that much money on aftermarket stuff for a midrange bike, you will never get it back on sell and you’ll be stuck with a “middle of the charts”, but very overpriced, motorcycle. If you’re not happy with the stock 700, just get the 1290 and be done with it, it’s a much smarter buy.

@exothermal.sprocket

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheRemizinho 1290 has shortcomings with suspension as well. KTM has just about made it impossible to ECU flash their encrypted computers unlike all the Japanese machines, so you can clean up the fuel, ignition, temps, fans, throttle plates, gearing restrictions, speed limiters and all the other crap the EPA requires. If you buy a motorcycle to turn around and sell it right away, consider staying out of the sport or keep shopping for that illusive perfect bike that comes right off the showroom floor tailor made for you. Sometimes we don't need 177 horsepower to be happy. Sometimes we just wish there was a 120 hp naked street machine with perfect brakes, suspension, and tires. Until that happens, the aftermarket is the only way to do it.

Guys! This review is top class. The way you have presented the video is in another level. Congratulations, party hard for the success!

Took a 790 for a test ride after putting it off for ages cause of the looks. Was blown away by it and ordered one soon after. It just delivers smiles from the moment you set off to the moment you get back.

Great filming and editing! Thank you guys, nice one RevZilla ;-) Greetings from Marbella, Southern Spain!

Had one for 5 months in the uk its absolutely brilliant put an austin racing gp1r can on it, bar end mirrors ,tail tidy,single seat cowl and it looks fantastic. It is probably the best bike i have ever owned.I took the Ducati 821 and street triple rs out for test ride before making a decision and this just felt the best out if them.

Awesome review, great points, seamless story telling and absolutely no effort!

I get so hyped every time there is a Revzilla video above 5min

Great review! For me personally this bike seems to slot into a really sweet spot. Would love to see more manufacturers start to make more performance-oriented 800cc twins on naked bikes.

Picked up mine Dec.3 with the optional Akrapovic silencer and I couldn't agree more about the engine. KTM hit it out of the park with their first swing. This thing is an absolute monster! No issues whatsoever regarding throttle response, the fuel metering and electronic throttle on mine are absolutely perfect. The non-adjustable suspension appears to have been optimised for 160 lb. 5'8" riders such as myself so no complaints there as well. I suspect that riders of larger, more powerful, more expensive sport bikes are in for a rude shock as the Duke sweeps past them on their favourite roads.

I'm addicted to the intro of this video. Always gotta have that coffee before a ride. Especially on the weekends.

I don't know what you used for a camera but the video quality was superb. Same with audio. Oh, and I liked the motorcycle review too. Great job.

I just got a 790 and I really enjoyed watching this video .. safe riding everyone 🤘🏼

Excellent review of my bike. Beautifully shot/edited clip.

It looks like a scalpel, I'll give them that. Subjective, I know, but if I don't smile when looking at a bike then I'd never consider buying it. KTMs are awesome, but this bike is not something that excites me. As a side note, Spurgeon you are the man and your reviews are top notch.

@realMysta

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, tbh when I was looking at bikes it was tough between sucking it up and getting something that was the best thing I saw and going with this new thing. Then I rode one and it was over. Put a deposit down. It's definitely riding that line, hoping I can spruce it up with some improved graphics or something.

I have a 2018 390 and I absolutely love it ... I own a tiger 800 which imo is a great all around bike but I can't seem to stop wanting to ride the Duke every day , it's just that much fun ...

Stellar Review RevZilla!

Hei good to see Spurge back on a KTM, the first video that I watched of Revzilla was Spurge on Duke390.

Have been riding the 790 duke for nearly a year. Lots of power, precise handling and easy operation, and I love the more upright riding position. Definitely reccomend for those seeking a great all round sports bike in the 750- 900 range.

Dude that is just a great video. So is this the new bad ass no doubt about it. The parallel twin and parallel twin headlights! Crank up the volume to 11

i have a Ktm Duke 790, absolutely superb machine!

@Ray-ju5zm

5 жыл бұрын

I tried one today and I fell in love with it.. Just awesome to ride, and it looked mutch better in the flesh to..

@mayan9714

4 жыл бұрын

Duke 790 or Ducati monster 797 which should I own ??(I own a 2017 r3 right now)

Very good Bike. Wait for January 2019 to get the WP adjustable Suspension and cartridge , will be added to Power Parts Catalogue. This Bike is outstanding, sharp as a knife and perfect to handle for a really low price. Well done KTM and well done RevZilla for the test review!!

Everything is perfect, till someone comes and says, "Nice 390, bro!" 😅

@rahulr6381

4 жыл бұрын

Copied from powedrift?

@GauravAhujaa

4 жыл бұрын

Hahaha true 😂

@robertpowers1045

4 жыл бұрын

The 2020 Duke 890 R has 100 more cc for 15 more hp and fully adjustable suspension and upgraded brakes...they took a great bike and made it better

@hatimnoli

4 жыл бұрын

@Jar of Smegma are you fucking stupid or what?

@iamf6641

4 жыл бұрын

@@hatimnoli hes actually right im from phillipines and he is right.

Lovely review!

Actually the Duke family starts from Duke 125 not Duke 390

@DaBrute

5 жыл бұрын

Yes but we don't get the baby 125 in the States

@sirmasteryan4958

5 жыл бұрын

Ya not in the U.S.

@terroland

5 жыл бұрын

@@DaBruteheres a duke 200 in some countries!

@sumanjitdeka7995

5 жыл бұрын

@@terroland actually there is a 250 too.

@terroland

5 жыл бұрын

@@@sumanjitdeka7995...ok ;-)

Spurg, you are very familiar with 3 cylinder triumphs. I have a 2015 Street Triple, I love the damn bike but it lacks a tiny bit of that “hooliganism” you know? If you’ve ridden the street triple, how does this bike do when compared to my bike, as far as torque/horsepower, freeway cruising, etc. Youre a good reviewer, keep up the good work 👍🏼

The right mirror is a $500 option

Curious. I plan to get the 790, revzilla makes the review. Well, I'm sold.

Your old school audio system looks dope. I am waiting for KTM RC 790.

I believe Revzilla makes awesome video reviews. I’m loving this KTM hey wonder if this is awesome bike or wait for adventure model🤔🙏🏍

KTM’s 790 Duke was spotted in India suggesting its launch in the next couple of months. Select KTM dealers have started accepting bookings for the upcoming 790 Duke in India. The 790 Duke will be the most powerful motorcycle from KTM to be sold in our country and is expected to be priced at around Rs 8 to 8.5 lakh (on-road). It will compete against four-cylinder rivals such as the Suzuki GSX-S750 and the Kawasaki Z900, which are priced at Rs 7.46 lakh and Rs 7.68 lakh (ex-showroom Delhi) respectively. The 790 Duke will also be the first KTM motorcycle in India to be brought via the CKD route, as rest of the KTM bikes are manufactured in India. In terms of styling, the 790 Duke is similar to the 390 Duke, but has larger dimensions and different frame, wheels, exhaust and tail-section. The bike has been loaded with features such as lean-sensitive traction control, cornering ABS, multiple power modes, launch control and even wheelie control! Powering the motorcycle is a newly developed LC8 799cc, liquid-cooled, parallel-twin motor pumping out 105PS at 9500rpm and 86Nm of peak torque at 8000rpm. The DOHC motor is mated to a 6-speed gearbox with a slipper clutch. The 790 Duke carries forward KTM’s tradition of offering many segment-first features at a great price and this should help it stand out from its competition.

@mayan9714

4 жыл бұрын

Duke 790 or Ducati monster 797 which should I own ??(I own a 2017 r3 right now)

@AnkitKushwaha-tg2ru

4 жыл бұрын

Z900 is so better than this for price on offer

Another great review!

I can't say I care for the looks of it at all. The 1290 looks sooo much better

@darioferrari6697

5 жыл бұрын

true

@J2I3H

5 жыл бұрын

Even the 390 looks much better..

@Superfly-cg9oz

5 жыл бұрын

Grows on you.

@cisium1184

5 жыл бұрын

I don't think there's a single naked KTM that I like the look of. They're all butt-ass fugly.

@cosmiccharlie8294

5 жыл бұрын

So many bikes these days are over styled. They could take a cue from Triumph.

This is an awesome bike! I just bougth one! :D Great review!

your review nailed it - I rode the 2020 790 last week and was blown away, now thinking I'm going to trade my 2021 striple rs for the 790 - crazy about the striple but compared to the 790 it's kinda tame

You just convinced me to buy one. Let's see how it goes. Definitely buying it tomorrow morning. Iam only 5ft 7inch, little bit worried if it gonna be problem with seat height.

Looks like a ton of fun. I hope the electronics package includes a digital right mirror though 😋

I absolutely LOVE my 2016 FZ-07 and I have done a lot of mods to it. Comparing that to this bike the only thing I see, since performance is very similar, is the weight savings on this KTM. I can't say I'm comfortable with the KTM brand as I am with the Yamaha brand as I have owned many Yamahas and zero KTMs. It's an interesting look and I like the KTM headlight more than I like my FZ07 headlight which for me has always been a sore spot. I'll have to keep an eye on KTM before I ever think about buying one, especially since Triumph has that sick street triple that comes loaded with just about all the bells and whistles. :)

@herodias69

5 жыл бұрын

helloman1976 I came for a 2016 FZ-07 and got a 790 Duke. Night and day difference. Weigh the same almost double the power. Ride by wire itself is amazing. Test ride one!

@RealOrbit-Australia

5 жыл бұрын

What similar performance mate? The 690 is similar to the FZ 07 and the FZ 09 is similar to the 790. There's about 35hp difference between your bike and this. Torque is probably in the same bracket

@helloman1976

5 жыл бұрын

@@RealOrbit-AustraliaTrue, a very good point. I have to say though, I've had a lot of bikes and my FZ-07 is my favorite so far. The joy of riding this bike along with plenty of power and cornering for me has been amazing. It's also easy to work on and maintain. With the speed triple out there it would be hard for me to consider any KTM.

@DearMajesty

5 жыл бұрын

The KTM 790 Duke has a wet weight of 418 pounds. The Yamaha FZ-07 has a wet weight of 397 pounds. That means the Yamaha is 21 pounds lighter than the KTM.

@shadowsofgreatness

5 жыл бұрын

I was looking at the ktm 790 duke, triumph street triple, Ducati scrambler, and Yamaha fz09. It was would be my first bike so I wasn't able to test ride any of them and so I did so much research. Eventually got a xsr900 and without riding any of the others it was a great choice. Tons of power, great retro look, and Yamaha is a very reliable brand.

That turntable looks like a Technics 1200.....ooohhhh memories of my rave and record mixing days!!!!!

love ur review Ref！can u possiblely do a view on Ducati 659 or797！

Very professional video, well done. You don’t have a mirror on the RHS, did you take it off or it doesn’t come with one?

@RevZilla

5 жыл бұрын

It was damaged while getting delivered to us it seems, so it wasn't put on. -DrewZilla

Awesome review

Ducati Monster 821 is the direct competitor to this bike. 800cc, Non-adjustable suspension, torquey motor with very similar power numbers, relatively comfortable. Although, it looks like the KTM may be a little more all day friendly. It would be nice to see a comparison with between these two bikes.

Very good unbiased review. What jacket and gloves are you wearing in this review?? Look good...

@RevZilla

5 жыл бұрын

We list all the gear in the companion article linked in the description. In this case, Spurgeon was wearing the REV'IT! Vertex GT Jacket and Chicane Gloves. -DrewZilla *www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/revit-vertex-gt-jacket *www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/revit-chicane-gloves *www.revzilla.com/common-tread/2019-ktm-790-duke-first-ride-motorcycle-review

Like the bike, though I’m much more eager to see the 790 Adventure. I have a 690 Enduro R that I might trade in on that. Also happy to see a bike review that’s NOT in California!

@steve-wu7jp

5 жыл бұрын

Thomas Carlson What does the location have to do with the bike? I personally do not care where it’s filmed.

Right on spurg. I rode one at barberfest, its an amazing bike!

I'm in love with this bike, but I'm also intrigued by that cool house.

This bike belongs at the Tail of the Dragon or similar roads. A high contender for my next bike.

Techniques with an Audioquest cartridge? My brother from another mother!

@SpurgeonDunbar

5 жыл бұрын

My man!

In the summer I decided to change from my GSX-R750 to a naked middleweight, the 3 I narrowed down to were the MT-09 SP. Street Triple R, and the 790 Duke, I test rode each bike for a day and came so close to buying the KTM, it's so light and incredibly powerful and torquey for an 800cc twin, the pick up is lightning fast and the handling is second to none (watch it at the Pikes peak hill climb) but unfortunately it's got looks you either love or hate and I hate them, also the finish leaves a few questions with gaps in the bodywork, there's also fueling problem at very low revs but that could easily be fixed with remapping. in the end I went for the Street Triple R which I love but I'd still give the KTM a 9 out of 10 .

@willnestor6422

5 жыл бұрын

yeah i agree with you completely. i got a street triple myself and 790 is the ugliest bike i've ever seen. the exhaust looks shit too

@yonniboy1

5 жыл бұрын

@Nagato is better than Punk Naruto Like I said it's what appeals to you, some love it's looks some hate them.

@MrSneakysmack

5 жыл бұрын

@@willnestor6422 I agree with the exhaust this bikes looks very ugly but who ride their motorcycle with stock exhaust. The 790 with akrapovíc is very good looking.

Great video, makes me wish I wasn't a complete novice so I could ride stuff like that. You guys should get in the habit of including a list and links to the gear worn in the videos, like those sweet gloves.

@alexp6409

5 жыл бұрын

Zach Buckley www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/revit-chicane-gloves I’ve been eyeing these for a while now!

@SpurgeonDunbar

5 жыл бұрын

Zach Buckley check out the link to the Common Tread article. All the gear is listed out in the article. You can find it on the right side of your screen for desktop or the bottom of your screen on mobile.

@SpurgeonDunbar

5 жыл бұрын

The link is in the video description drop down.

@zachbuckley4842

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you my friend! As soon as I heard you say the bike wasn't for beginners I only watched the video, it never occurred to me that you list the gear in Common Tread, good to know. Regarding the Gloves, I noticed your jacket cuffs were undone in the video, and the reviews on the gloves on the website suggest they might be tough to fit under jacket cuffs. I was wondering if that was related, or just a way to keep air moving on a hot day. Thank very much. Z.

@zachbuckley4842

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy! They look awesome in that green accent, I'm mighty tempted.

If this bike's engine wasn't shit below 60 km/h (where 70 % of real world riding takes place), i'd buy it.

Superb video!

Hm. The mt09 is cheaper and comes with adjustable suspension. For a daily rider / hooligan bike, which is better?

Please do comparison between 2018 mid range street style bikes!....

Finally the US gets to review the 790. I will wait patiently for EICMA when the R version is announced, im waiting and my money is too.

It's surprising this channel is still not at a million subscribers yet .

Can't wait for the R version. And oh god please I want to see a 790 smr

Nice video quality

Just bought one and I'm a happy man

Thanks for mentioning the heat from the bike straight up. This will be completely unsuitable for city commuting in hot climates like Australia. But fine in Austria....

I bought the 790 over a Monster 821, and I know I did the right choice. The only upgrade from 790 would be Monster 1200, because the KTM 1290 SDR is way too expensive, and maybe too powerful for me. Also, the Monster 1200 has the cornering ABS, just like the 790, but lacks the cornering MTC. Would you consider the Monster 1200 an upgrade, or might not be as much fun as the 790? I never do track days, only short commute in traffic, and fun rides.

When do we get the "R" spec?

What camera are you using on the handlebars?

I've got a 16' SDR 1290... This is the bike I should have bought IMO.

Waiting for this in our state....surely il buy dis bike

790 duke is awesome bike. I am not a fun of ktm or naked biks but this one is impressive. Really.

A free flowing exhaust might reduce engine heat some. And fixing the lean condition below 4k would also help with that. Exhaust, fueling and suspension. Three or four grand should clear that up. Makes the MT 07 look pretty attractive.

I was dead set on buying this. Then, I had to consider the following combination: 1) Every KTM made with the 799cc LC8c will be made in China 2) KTM has maybe the worst warranty in motorcycling. It covers engine parts *inside* the crankcase, plus the frame and swingarm -- NOTHING ELSE If you want a firebreathing middleweight with advanced safety tech.. my advice is to scratch this off your list, and keep looking.

@KingCast65

3 жыл бұрын

I know. It hurts the buzz.

The Duke 790 came out last year. So I'm assuming there are no changes for 2019 then!?

8:22 Pupper just wants to go say hi!

How bad is the heat given off? Also, is it easy to accidentally melt your pants/boot?

good review, good bike. Why the guys at Revzilla always say "is gonna be" binsted of just "is" always bugs me but hey, it's fine

Needs a review vs the Street triple R asap guys

What tires would you guys recommend as an upgrade, for road use, no track, very little touring, avoiding rain, if BEST GRIP is what I want? Dunlop SportSmart TT, Pirelli Diablo Rosso 3, Pirelli Diablo Rosso Corsa II, Metzeler Sportec M7 RR, or something else? Thank you.

@RevZilla

5 жыл бұрын

Probably the Rosso Corsa IIs followed by the M7 RRs. -DrewZilla

@kevo82

5 жыл бұрын

RevZilla Thanks! I got the Corsa II and they are great.

I`m sure they work fine and all that but the electronics on what this bike does and reacts is wild! I think it is a little to technical for me. I would prefer less computer control and more people control. But that`s just me. It is a beautiful bike!

is the quickshifter "on" whenever the bike is running or is their a mode for it?

You didn’t cover ergonomics. And it looks like the bike is fairly low as like you sit totally on top of the bike, but you knee angle looks a bit cramped - how was it from an ergonomic view and how tall are you?

I’ve never heard the statement “the FZ09 doesn’t have character like this bike” ever.

@10fantic

5 жыл бұрын

Mt-09 has tons of character!

@Abhishek-150

5 жыл бұрын

KTM bike don't have soul

@therealturbofanisme

5 жыл бұрын

Laughed at that statement. I don't know about the electronics, but no parallel twin can match a triple for character and flexibility.

@AugmentedGravity

5 жыл бұрын

I have, and its kinda true.

@AugmentedGravity

5 жыл бұрын

@True Gooner i'd go for the 790 all day any day

Love the bike, Hope they launch it soon in INDIA

That 790 Adventure looks pretty cool.

please do review the cf moto nk400 .. thanks ...

No no no the new feature is the all new 1 mirror technology

Having ridden my brothers 790 duke, I can say the vibration from the parallel twin is pretty fierce. That's probably my biggest gripe with the bike. Like this reviewer said, the ride is a little harsh too. Also is this guy makes the bike look so small!

"Small" 390? I guess the Duke 125 is the "tiny"? 😂😂😂 BTW KTM is killing I with the designs the past 5 years. 🙂 Great review!

@RevZilla

5 жыл бұрын

Yep, here in the US, a 373cc bike is considered small, and as such, the 390 Duke is the smallest Duke KTM offers here. -DrewZilla

you guys should've also mentioned the bosch-cornering abs on the bike, which is quite a big deal

How about a Ducati Monster 821? I’m looking at the new Duke 790 vs the new 821.

is it possible that i swap the stock suspension for aftermarket semi-active one?

Not saying I hate this bike, but any possibility of a review for the Honda NM4?

Oh you have a perfect riding jacket

I’m loving mine, I always get a giggle when the front wheel floats as wheelie control kicks in. It surges more if you’re in sport mode, in street 2500 is where it surges - a lot lower.

@SpurgeonDunbar

5 жыл бұрын

On our bike I rode it in all the modes and found that below 4,000 rpm, it was never completely "happy".

Nice. Thanks.

Does anything significant change from MY2018 to MY2019? Asking cause i can basically get a 2018 directly without wait but would have to wait 3 month for a 2019 modell. Dealer says there is no difference but wanted to be sure :) Google does not deliver much on that topic...

@RevZilla

5 жыл бұрын

No difference.

A plug in and k&n air filter sorts the fuelling issues throughout the range for around £200 UK.

"High Point." Does the Penton family own that cafe? :-) I still have a pair of "Hi-Point" riding boots I bought back in 73 when I bought my Penton (KTM) 175.

Don’t you think the hypermotard would be comparable? Premium, a little more power, twin?

My 60 something year old father will be trying for his unrestricted uk license soon. Once he has a license he will be looking at getting a bike. I have been looking for something for him that has an upright seating position but is also lightweight because he has a bad him. He also wants as much electronic aids as possible which i know this bike has while also having decent power. You say it’s not a good beginner bike but it seems perfect to me except maybe the seating position is a bit forward. What do you think (anyone) ?

It surges below 4K because of the EPA, PCV, full exhaust will fix that and open up a whole range of low mid torque