Also the tuono is a rsv4 with flat bars, make no mistake here, it's a sportsbike and realistically u can't really compare them, because the super duke is a stand alone model, it wasn't a sportsbike before, it was built from the ground up as a super duke...

Just bought the superduke R. Fallen in love with this bike. Need to sleep in the garage with her.

On my second SDR, Did 7500 miles through Europe in August no problems I’m 6ft 1 and 60 years old, it’s a has a Power Parts seat so really comfortable fantastic all rounder and great on the track. Beware if you put a tail tidy on you will get a really wet arse when the roads are wet.

Just to add to you Vlog - KTM are doing this bike at the moment for £13500 - i pick mine up on Saturday. I pushed it and my local dealer and got them to throw in the Performance pack FOC!! (quick shifter up and down inc blipper + MSR - motor slip regulator (stops the back wheel locking up on downshifts) Great Vlog!i

I had the same problem last year and ended up with the SDR and I love it, definitely better with a bit of suspension fiddling and a lot more comfy than the tuono and yes it looks great in my garage next to my GS

@albert9655

4 жыл бұрын

Chris196300 but would it be great instead of a GS? :P I only can afford one motorcycle and I’m thinking of trading in my 2014 GS.

@Chris196300

4 жыл бұрын

Darksight If I could only have one bike I’d definitely keep the GS

I was once racing a courier in London on his kawasaki GT750, I was on my Thunderace going from the lights down Baker Street, small flock of pigeons saw us coming not quick enough, one hit my shoulder at 90, proper wallop but I'm a big strong boy and shrugged it off

A piece of tape placed on the instrument panel two thirds of the way in did not go unnoticed my friend! 😂

@KaiserWheelHelm

4 жыл бұрын

Ahh.. strategic tape, cheaper than expensive video editing software 😉😂

Gr8 review as always buddy

@KaiserWheelHelm

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy 👍

Phenomenal Mr. Kaiser, me thinks he'll go with the Tuono.

Kaiser chuckles, faffage and breaking efficiency..... Kaiser at his best 😬👌🏻👍🏻

@KaiserWheelHelm

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers buddy 👍

I would love one next to my GSA that is the perfect garage. Excellent vid

@KaiserWheelHelm

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers Buddy, I'm still plugging away ;0)

Nice video, do love your honesty. Top work, thank you. KTM all the way for me. GT though 😛

@whittlad

4 жыл бұрын

I bought the GT and it’s a fantastic bike😎🤘👍

Great video again!! Decision time? 🤔🤔🤔.....I can see 2 bikes alongside your GS in your garage 😜✌🏻

I bought my superduke (exactly the same colour as you rode) in September - as my KTM dealer knew they had a new model coming out they did me a blinding deal - i got the bike with the performance pack and tail tidy for just over £13k - i LOVE IT!!!!

@KaiserWheelHelm

4 жыл бұрын

Brilliant deal.. great bike 😀

I had a 2015 Super Duke and now I just got a Tuono Factory, both of these bikes are amazing and you can’t go wrong, the Factory looks better for me, the SDR is more comfy but the sound on the V4 and the way it rails is priceless.

@KaiserWheelHelm

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah man I agree with that.. Both are great bikes, but in the end it comes down to what sort of rider you are and one bike will suit you more than the other ✊😀

Love the leather jacket 👌🏻

@KaiserWheelHelm

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers buddy.. proper old school 😎

I own the the original 2014 1290r with full Akrapovic system. The biggest upgrade you might of thought was the exhaust system. But it wasn’t. What made this bike the best bike I have ever owned was getting the handling sorted. The front end was left stock because it’s a street bike but the rear end got the Ohlins. That and the power parts sport seat(which pushes your weight more over the front wheel)make this bike handle the medium and tight twisty like a supermoto on steroids. I can’t Imagine that the Aprilia could be better.

Got a test ride tomorrow. Hope it is not too small for me. 6 foot 2.

I have a ‘17 Tuono Factory, and love it. The Super Duke was on my radar but I never had the chance to test ride one of them. I did throw a leg over at the dealers, my recollection is that it was very tall for my 5’10” frame. Honestly I think you can’t go wrong with either.

@jiggooloco408

4 жыл бұрын

I am 165cm but not an issue for me

@GareyCooperdude

4 жыл бұрын

@@jiggooloco408 good to hear, I may still get the chance to try a Super Duke one day!

I have the same exhaust and the baffle does come out. It’s just needs some persuasion! End can off and tap from the other side. Pops right out.

@KaiserWheelHelm

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers Ben there is always a way with brute force.. 👍 it's not the same as the old ones though, where you could take it out and put it back just by removing one small bolt.

I'm a long time aprilia owner (various models since 2000) and whilst they build great bikes, backup is not their strongest point. I agree it's a better looker than the angular Ktm for me. Comes down to whether you buy with your head or your heart as reading between the lines, you want the Tuono but think you should have the KTM. Tough one

@KaiserWheelHelm

4 жыл бұрын

Colin you have me sussed.. I'll probably end up with a Honda VTR1000 SP2 ;0)

"Why do the best people die?" "When you’re in a garden, which flowers do you pick?" "The most beautiful ones."

KTM = Keep Taking Money. After they take it all and you have literally nothing left, at least you have one of the best bikes there is. I agree with the suspension. I thought it was very floaty but once you harden everything up and get that rear spring to the right height, it all makes sense.

I hit a pheasant at 120 ish on my FZ1S it smashed the fairing off, the clocks landed in my lap and then hit my chest I felt like I’d been drop kicked If it would of hit my head I wouldn’t be here now! Great review as always

@KaiserWheelHelm

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah but do you remember the Wurzels!?!?! ;0)

@shotaway

4 жыл бұрын

Kaiser WheelHelm ohh arr course I doz We’s from the same town 👍

Nice one bro will buy 790

@KaiserWheelHelm

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah man.. 790 is such a great bike

Youve been here before Kaiser!!🙈🙈....just go and get the SDR!!!🤣🤣🤣😜🏍🏍

@KaiserWheelHelm

4 жыл бұрын

Dude have you seen the pictures on instagram of the new 1290SDR KTM have just released!?

@mrsuperduke6684

4 жыл бұрын

@@KaiserWheelHelm hiya.... yes i have and it looks stunning!!!.... need to know power etc to see if its gonna match Ducati SF V4 and ZH2!!!👍👍🤣🤣

@KaiserWheelHelm

4 жыл бұрын

@@mrsuperduke6684 Oh my!! that Ducati has some serious specs.. I'm sure it's gonna be amazing

@mrsuperduke6684

4 жыл бұрын

@@KaiserWheelHelm big money for s version!!!.....19k+..... find out tomoz when Sdr is released!!👍👍🙈🙈🤣

I bought the Superduke R this April instead of the Tuono. Its an awesome street bike for this aging ex racer. Ktm should be ashamed charging extra to unlock features on the bike THAT ARE ALREADY INSTALLED! You hear me KTM? Absolutely disgusting behaviour and it has cost you sales from friends who wouldn’t buy because of it. Passion for the superduke is why I ate the cost ha ha. However, thats why I’m adding the Tenere 700 instead of 790 adventure to the stable next.

As far as I am concerned the Tuono is no Naked-Bike at all. Because if she were, bikes like the Yamaha XJ Diversion, Suzuki Bandit 1250S, Honda CBF 1000, etc are Nakeds too! But they are Not! In fact, from my point of view the Super Duke is the sexiest bike out there.

@KaiserWheelHelm

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah that's a fair point.. lots saying the Tuono is a half naked sports bike

I would buy the the SDR. However, back in 2016 I was looking at buying a SDR. Had a test ride and loved it but I struggle with justifying the price. So I bought a second hand 2nd gen Tuono instead. A third of the price and just as brutal 👍

@KaiserWheelHelm

4 жыл бұрын

yeah I think thats what I'll end up doing.. perhaps a RSV4 1000RF. time will tell

I think the Aprilia and the SDR are not really in the same category. The SDR is a purpose built street fighter/naked/hooligan bike. The Aprilia is an altered sport/track bike for the street. I think the SDR should be lumped with Ducati Monster 1200s, Speed Triple, etc. Aprilia should be with BMW s1000r, Ducati Streetfighter v4, etc.

@KaiserWheelHelm

4 жыл бұрын

Roy I agree, although they will all be put into some sort of category, and litre naked is what these will be all pitched against at some point, it's that manufacturers best attempt at stealing you away from any of the others in that particular class... if I was looking at buying a bike in this category I would want to try all that you mentioned and find the one that suited me the most, I'm sure you'd do the same... I certainly wouldn't say I'm not trying the Aprilia because it's an altered street/track bike.. I do say in the video that they are completely different bikes. It's up to the rider to find what he likes and I like both the Duke and the Tuono for very different reasons.

Have to totally agree with you. Asking consumers to purchase what should be 'standard' equipment for a bike of this build is scandalous. BMW provides all those for its S1000r if you buy the sports pack. The Tuono comes with those as standard. It's a bit illogical. PS: I'm an ex TuonoRR owner looking to buy the SuperDuke. The Tuono wasn't the best for inner city riding.

Nice vid. Were there any changes for the 2019 over the 17 and 18?

@KaiserWheelHelm

4 жыл бұрын

No. Rumours are there is something new coming next year.. no details yet

Get the seat changed before anything, standard seat is just a plank like every other KTM. Make the rear seat as uncomfortable as you can for the missus. Job done. UDPATE: Took one out and the seat was fine.

Ditch the GS and get the 1290 SDGT and then either have the 1290 SDR or the Aprilia Tuono as a run around😎 (helps to win the lottery first😆)

@KaiserWheelHelm

4 жыл бұрын

I could never get rid of the GS.. how could you suggest such a thing.. 😂 I'm edging towards the Tuono just because of the way I ride and THE SOUND IT MAKES ✊🤣

Nice but expensive, especially with extras. I know you are not keen on the MT10 but I love mine. Bought 3 years and 20K ago for under £10,000 new which is thought was a bargain.

@KaiserWheelHelm

4 жыл бұрын

I need to try an MT10 to be fair.. I might love it

Always amazed the amount of people who do not mention the s1000r. Amazing bike with excellent electronics, quick shifter up and down and amazing handling and performance and brakes are better than the Duke. I love the Duke and I will be buying one but some people need to try the s1000r and they will be well impressed.

@KaiserWheelHelm

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah agree.. I need to try the s1000r. I also need to try the S1000rr. I'll be on the phone to BMW tomorrow 🖒

@chrismurray3198

4 жыл бұрын

@@KaiserWheelHelm you will love the s1000r

@johnwust9230

4 жыл бұрын

chris murray, I tried the BMW and it is a good bike but just felt a little sterile to me and a little buzzy at speed, felt like it needed another gear, having said that there’s not much to choose between any of them now in terms of quality and features so it just comes down to personal preference and if the bike fits you physically. Oh and cost.

@KaiserWheelHelm

4 жыл бұрын

@@johnwust9230 Yeah I would agree with everything you said there John, I appreciate the S1000 but I'm just not an inline 4 guy anymore. I rode the S1000XR last year and although it's a great bike it was sterile and buzzy.. and yes it felt like it needed another gear. Lots of exciting new stuff coming next year, can't wait to try that Ducati V4s, I'm guessing it won't be cheap..

Superduke: the Queen of the maxinaked;-) GHEROPPPPPPPPAAAAAA

I brought the very same bike a year ago & yes I agree, Fantastic bike, got a bit of everything really. As for the bolt ons ... i purchased the performance pack which includes quickshifter, in my opinion Track pack is just a step to far on this bike,the roads in the uk are that bad these days that you really do need both bits of rubber on the road & with the track pack the front wheel never is !! 177bhp is surely enough 🙈🙈 . The depreciation is horrendous, I got a quote last week to change mine & £10.500 was the top price i was offered & that was against a £19.000 GSA... £4k loss in 12 months. They are giving them away now.

@KaiserWheelHelm

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah new model coming, KTM dealerships are offloading the current bike at cheap money, which in turn will affect your trade in. I've been hit like that so many times in the past.. New GS though, love that bike. 😀

@matttownsend1652

4 жыл бұрын

@@KaiserWheelHelm me too! You live & learn I guess, I doubt I will ever buy new again.

Buy it

Info in the helmet please

@KaiserWheelHelm

4 жыл бұрын

Icon variant construct with a gold iridium visor.

If either came with a free stenna stair lift I'd have that one as at my age I'd need one after being on those

@KaiserWheelHelm

4 жыл бұрын

KTM is surprisingly comfy.. but yes its blooming tall.

@Bazza47

4 жыл бұрын

@@KaiserWheelHelmAt 5'7" I don't do tall LOL

I made the decision in 2018 to go Tuono Factory over KTM. No regrets. Tuono is so much better everywhere especially with Ohlins. Just upgraded to a 2019 Factory with semi active suspension. Oh boy game changer. Go Tuono. Use the GS for taking the wife.

@KaiserWheelHelm

4 жыл бұрын

Have you seen my Tuono video? kzread.info/dash/bejne/jJeNp9qsdZS3d5c.html love that thing, definitely more suited to the way I ride.. The new 2020 SDR is out soon, I still don't think it'll be anything like the Tuono but definitely will be an improvement over this model.

Birds - a pigeon hit my gear leg broadside while I was doing *ahem* 60mph. Had a dead leg for about 4 miles....

@KaiserWheelHelm

4 жыл бұрын

Pigeons are solid little blighters.. I'm not surprised.

what did u go for ?

@KaiserWheelHelm

4 жыл бұрын

Neither at the moment Dave.. life has thrown me a few difficulties lately. I'm just going to have to keep test riding them for the time being.

I can't stop looking at these bloody things now, especially the GT as a migration path from sportsbikes as my body is suffering with the race horse jockey position these days. Is there a KTM upgrade for 2020? I assume not as the 2019 is new. Also, dealer network is far and few between which is a concern. See what next year brings.

@KaiserWheelHelm

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah GT just had a fairly big upgrade.. I would think the SDR is due a face lift, the current shape has been running for a few years. Still looks really good though.

@benkeii1st

4 жыл бұрын

@@KaiserWheelHelm Apparently the SAS gets an update for 2020. Rumours say it got 170bhp... and cruise control with radar... and I'm wondering for how much I could get away with the update... EICMA will tell. And yes, I love my bike, for nothing on the market I'd trade my SAS with... except a new SAS 😄 And you should buy what your gut is telling you. Fun factor should beat all tbh. SDR is the cooler one in my book tho - looks and image wins the SDR easily imho. Also, afaik quickshifter is default and only the blipper is extra. At least on the SAS it is.

@KaiserWheelHelm

4 жыл бұрын

@@benkeii1st Yeah I saw the press release on the SAS, it might be interesting.. although I'm not sure I want a radar on my bike tbh. As for the Tuono and SDR that will happen when my life gets less complicated.

There's three bikes in the running for my money....... Ktm superduke aprilla touno and the yamaha mt10 in no particular order

@KaiserWheelHelm

4 жыл бұрын

Tricky decision, I'm slightly edging towards the Tuono.

I’m considering selling my street triple for a ktm duke r

Or go a dealership that's offering extras at a no cost option, because it's a buyers market...

@KaiserWheelHelm

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah Gren I get ya!! but those deals are dealer based, they are having to take that £400 out of there profit to sell a bike. KTM will still want that money for the codes. wrong really

@grenphelps7455

4 жыл бұрын

@@KaiserWheelHelm well what difference does make if ur getting a bike with all the kit already on it, I've just seen two of these ktms in dealerships with the track pack as its known and the price is 11k

Odd look sitting on it. Seems like someone stole the front end. Handlebars and nothing in front odd to me.

Of course the speedo is blocked out.

What about heat

@KaiserWheelHelm

4 жыл бұрын

Didn't notice it on the ride to be honest.. well not enough that would make me mention it. It was about 16°C on the day, if the engine was giving off heat I was comfortable.

I've got a sdr and before that had 2 tuono v4,s . In perfect conditions ,sunny day ,twisty road ,no cars the tuono edges it but for 85% of the time the sdr is the better road bike . Plus with a few clicks here a there on the suspension that narrows the handling advantage the Tuono has . Also unless your passenger is a porn star and has the build of a capuchin monkey they will not enjoy the Tuono factory experience .

@tomtraynor5384

4 жыл бұрын

100% agree. Had the Tuono 1000 as well.

@gabrieljohannson6777

4 жыл бұрын

Agree with you @Darren Butler. I had a TuonoRR (not the factory) and it is an out & out sports bike. If you're wanting an inner city commuter for the occasional long haul I'd say the SDR is the bike.

I have owned both the Aprilia and the super duke. If you think the tuono handles better then you don’t know how to ride the duke. The Kim is by far the better handling bike.

@KaiserWheelHelm

4 жыл бұрын

My friend I've done many seasons road racing, I've won championships. Raced offroad, motocross and enduros. I've been riding motorcycles since 1977 I'd happily smash you at any riding event you'd like..... The Tuono with it's state of the art electronic suspension handles better than the KTM fact! That's why the new 2020 KTM has all the suspension and chassis upgrades.. because it didn't handle as well as the competition. But clearly you're the expert. 🤣

@paultomeh9120

4 жыл бұрын

@@KaiserWheelHelm I tip my hat to all that experience, but it doesn't change the fact that the KTM handles better even without all the extra tech that Aprilia have to use to get the Tuono a close second. I guess you're going to have to "smash" me to prove your point my friend. I have not yet tried the 2020 KTM, but the 2019 is enough to run circles against anything from Italy currently.

isnt even 2 stroke cringe

@KaiserWheelHelm

2 жыл бұрын

Can you translate into English I don't understand?