Knife Maker's File Guide - How It's Made
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In this video bladesmith Walter Sorrells makes a knife filing guide, a handy jig that help file the transition between the tang and the ricasso on hidden tang knives. Useful for making a host of knives from Bowies to Japanese kitchen knives.
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It is a small world. I watched this video this morning. Went to church and was talking to my friend about getting into knife making. He connected me with with his brother who is Dave Moore, whom I spoke with on the phone today. Dave then mentioned you in our conversation.
I know it’s a little old but wanted to put this out there. Online Metals is now selling tungsten carbide in small rectangles .062 x .500 x 6.00 is like $15. Should be great to epoxy on homemade file guides. Last damned near forever at a fraction of the cost. As always, thanks for great content and videos Walter
I'm just going to be commenting on all the videos I come across today, to keep you in the algorithm.
Walter, when I built one of these, I used two flat head cap screws 3/8" in diameter, drilled and tapped one end of each bar and clearance drilled and counter sunk for the flat head on the other end. This configuration automatically aligns the bars one to the other and eliminates the need for dowel pins.
thank you for the knowledge..I can't afford much in life lately but I will donate something. You always work so hard to make sure us viewers know the truth, no BS, good or bad. You are a great teacher.
Ti coated taps and a .210 drill bit is the perfect match for a 1/4-20 thread. Cutting fluid is a must. Hit the hole first with a countersink
Love how you show when things go wrong. Makes me feel better about some of my attempts....
@radarreally2110
8 жыл бұрын
And he's so calm when he breaks something. I've broken off a few taps, and I don't think I've ever taken it that well.
@WalterSorrellsBlades
7 жыл бұрын
Oh, I bleeped a good bit of spicy language there! :)
@radarreally2110
7 жыл бұрын
+Walter Sorrells Not to question methods, but have you tried using a cheap pen style engraving tool to back out broken bolts or taps? I've never used it for a tap, but it works amazingly for broken off bolts.
I ordered a carbide strip off ebay and JB welded it to my file guid. Then I laped the carbide on a diamond stone. Best thing I could have done with it. Us it on every knife. Thanks for sharing 👍.
There is much to learn from this style of presentation. Skills!
I love this guy. real life, I've broken so many taps. people like to only show how easy things can be. Walter includes actual problems you will encounter.
@bibikanuthsen661
5 жыл бұрын
Paiting
@bibikanuthsen661
5 жыл бұрын
Painting
I have never made a knife in my life nor do I intend to, that said I have watched tons of your videos and I have no idea why.
@Bynming
8 жыл бұрын
Maybe in 10-20 years when I'll have enough money to afford to buy a house with a garage I'll buy a few tools and make knives using the stuff I learned here. Until then, I have to live with just a few square feet of space :(
@dylanzrim1011
8 жыл бұрын
+Carl M coffee can forge, small anvil and some scrap steel and you have a small set up to experiment with, then when you have the room to do it properly you'll have the base skills down
@Bynming
8 жыл бұрын
Dylan Zrim I already have a reloading press cluttering my space. If I learned anything from that is that I don't have the patience to work without a few tools to expedite the process.
@ravanabrahmarakshas4263
4 жыл бұрын
KieranFR why? craziness. then, with your condition, (that is good) :) i suggest searching for hadron collider and watch those. someday you will raise a few humdred billion dollars capital and make one of those. why? just for fun.
I find that the old 1/2 forward back 1/4 method works well for tapping
That tap handle would drive me nuts. Love these videos!
Always a superb work.
Cool video, even though it is a very simple concept you still took the time to make a high-quality professional video. this could also be used as a guide for grinding the ricasso on knives.
Amazing work
At 5:50 I literally laughed my head off =) I't's sort of reassuring to see that even professionals do make mistakes every now and then
Hi Walter, When you started tapping I wondered at the use of a die holder for turning the tap. Misalignment is the major cause of tap breakage and the die holder shown was holding the tap off centre.
Walter, Would you consider doing a video on the frustrating art of the wa handle, or on grinding freehand bevels?
Great video. As usualy.
Cool video! I can imagine heat treating this in a charcoal fire would be pretty tricky to do just because it's so thick. From your experience would you need to soak it longer to get the middle to temp or is the outside good enough?
If you check out McMaster Carr, you can buy tungsten carbide flat stock. A 1/16" x 1/4" x 6" piece is under $18. You can braze this to a mild steel clamp and have a file guide which will never wear.
As usual, thanks for the video. This jig is fairly expensive online. Again, THANKS!
would a set of 1-2-3 blocks work? all ready machined and tapped.
Thanks Walter.
Making your own stuff fun, fun!
Muito bom e pratico
could you do the same video for a centering line tool? thanks for this really use full vidéo
Walter. With my file guide i made it from 1/4 1095 (only thick stock i had). Any ways i left about 1/2 head room from the upper set of screws (also i heard thread formers are really good for chasing threads or just straightening some damaged threads. Been meaning to get one but haven't looked too hard yet.) I did not heat treat them, i felt that the damage of rubbing the file against them would shorten the life too much. occasionally i take it to the grinder to square up the edge.
Is it possible to mill horizontal slots in you bevel jig that you can bolt this guide to that would allow you to use it as a bevel jig/plunge line guide combination?
forged my second hunting knife today. Had some trouble with the tang.. Any advice how to get the corners right?
I'm more of a woodworker than knife maker, but a larger version of that tool should work really well as a Swedish steel scraper jig for getting a really square edge. In the past I have used a wood jig, which require continuous re-dressing to keep them flat and square. thanks, R
Does it have to be wide or can i use something like circular saw blade steel?
ONe thing notice is the kack of cooling lube that Rapid Lube t extend life and sharpness of it. Same with tapping and dieing. Any reaseon for this? other than the mess.
A turn and a half is the correct method for breaking the bur and plenty of lube.
Can you do a video on how to make serrated knives? Thanks.
awesome more tools please
"this little gizmo" has helped me with things other than knives...thanks
Great vid as always. You know you have a career in Hollyweird as a voice-over artist if you ever (God forbid) want to live there. :) I was wondering what kind of cutting/tapping oil you use. It looks pretty thick. Thanks so much for all the work you do on these videos. I know for a fact that it takes a ton of time and patience to do them right like you do.
If you put the tap in a collet and take it slow you can tap quickly without worrying about keeping the tap upright. You can also use 2 flute "gun" taps and you'll get better results with through holes.
@tomsullivan9561
7 жыл бұрын
Forgot to say this before but a countersink on the ends of the threads can really help prevent burs from forming on the ends of the threads
What's the beef with the metric system? It's easier! Why did you offset your tap in the handle?
Hello Mr. Sorrells!Why don't you make a damascus machete?I think it could be a really cool project in your perfomance.
Would a radiused transition be stronger? Then provide the handle relief with an inner chamfer, or smaller radius?
@lsubslimed
8 жыл бұрын
Definitely!! That's the only way tang shoulders should be filed!! You can use a normal file until you get pretty close to the file guide (around an 1/8" depending on the radius size) and then use a small chainsaw file to file down to the guide on the inside edge to create the radius. Then go ahead and finish off the outer edges with a flat file. Just one of a number of ways you can go about it. 👍
@chrisanderson60
8 жыл бұрын
+lsubslimed If you use a rat tail needle file you have less work radiusing the slot through the guard.
When you file the bottom of the recasso (I'm sure that's misspelled), do you leave the shoulders square or do you use a round file and give it some radius? I heard somewhere that the blade would be stronger if it was rounded a little?
@WalterSorrellsBlades
7 жыл бұрын
In theory square shoulders create what engineers call a "stress riser" -- meaning a point where local stress will be increased dramatically if you put stress on it at that point. Which could lead to knife breakage. That said, knives tend to fail near the tip more than at the ricasso because they're thinner there and because if you use a knife as a pry bar, the forces tend to be concentrated near the tip. Bottom line, of all the things I worry about when I make a knife, that's fairly low on the list.
Not to get off subject, is there a rile on the distance between the plung line and the start of the scales?
The file guide "hurts" the file over time or not?
They have these little contraptions called tap extractors. Way less fuss than drilling out a busted tap.
@chrisanderson60
8 жыл бұрын
E.D.M. that puppy right outta there!
Great video Walter. Thank you. I have a dumb question, but it might not be stupid. Couldn't one use a pair of 1-2-3 blocks bolted together for a file guide? Not sure of the metal in a 1-2-3 block or if they ave already been hardened. Appreciate the information.
@_BLANK_BLANK
2 жыл бұрын
A 123 block might be a bit cumbersome depending on the job you're doing.
Need to make a bowie, Walter!
any chance u'll make a video on making chisels and plane irons?
@WalterSorrellsBlades
7 жыл бұрын
Both of those are on my list of things I want to do "one of these days." So the short answer is 'yes'...but I can't promise it'll be soon! :)
Can you make a video on how to sharpen a knife with one of those portable knife sharpeners you can buy?
@WalterSorrellsBlades
7 жыл бұрын
I don't use them myself, so I don't have a ton of useful info on the subject.
hello walter someone on facebook told me that he just discovered a new steel that seems to be easy to work ,quench and grind the name of this steel is 100c6 do you know something about ? (he said it cames from ball bearing)
@WalterSorrellsBlades
7 жыл бұрын
I believe 100C6 is the European designation for what we call 52100 in the US. 52100 is a steel that's a bit tricky to use for a variety of reasons. If you have access to some, I wouldn't discourage you from using it. But some well known knife maker (I want to say it was Al Pendray, but I'm not sure) once said something to the effect of: "God invented 52100 in order to torture knife makers." The point being that maximizing the qualities of the steel is extremely difficult and frustrating.
@mateoforget2340
7 жыл бұрын
Ok thanks 😂
Could you make a guide for beveling the edge? I always find it hard to hold the file one one plane while filing and then I end up with a convex bevel.
@MrHello12314
8 жыл бұрын
yes I think gough custom that made a good video on how to make one
@LauDuKai
8 жыл бұрын
I made Gough's file guide and made my first knife with it. It worked very well.
@chrisanderson60
8 жыл бұрын
see my reply to Anbu8366 this eliminates the need for another tool in your shop.
@neilyeag
7 жыл бұрын
Made the same one, takes some effort but it does the trick
have you ever done a folding knife, if not you should try and post the results
What about a tap extractor?
if you use a two flute tap it will not flex and break as easy.
HSS taps have no problem at all with tool steel, you just need to buy good taps not hardware store ones. Osborne, marxman, dormer, yamawa, Butterfield, ect all good. buy them from a place like KBC tools and buy the most expensive taps they sell. you'll never regret it
I was wondering why you were trying to power through that tap... I never cut more than about 1/3 of a turn, 120 degree rotation, without turning it back to break the chips. If you feel the tap flex, you've already turned too far.
@althesmith
2 жыл бұрын
I don't even go more than 1/4 in HC steel.
what it is whydo you make!?
can somebody please tell me what he meant when he said he soaked the steel for 10 minutes when heat treating
@morgothbaugiir5852
8 жыл бұрын
He leaves the steel in the oil for 10 minutes.
@jonoeade7261
8 жыл бұрын
MorgothBaugIir thanks
@polishavenger1
8 жыл бұрын
Soaking the steel means that he brought it up to a certain temperature in his heat treating oven, then he let it "soak" at that temperature for 10 minutes. This allows the carbon and alloying elements to disperse evenly in the steel creating a more homogeneous steel when quenched.
@jonoeade7261
8 жыл бұрын
+polishavenger1 thanks
Doesn't the guide rust?
1st love your vids
♤
I've broken many taps, and witnessed many taps being broke, and subsequently burnt out and drilled out. I must say, your reaction was fairly tame compared to most. I wonder what your day job is?
That is the most awkward tap wrench I have ever seen......otherwise superb video!
damnit i thought you made a filing jig, please teach us how to file a knife. I suck at it
@MrHello12314
8 жыл бұрын
gough custom has a video on a file guide
@chrisanderson60
8 жыл бұрын
Rough grind the bevels with a disc grinder or a pedestal grinder, then "draw file" the rest. Draw filling you hold one end of the file in either hand and pull or push, which hand is holding tang of the file determines the direction, file perpendicular to the blade. This should clean things up well enough that only a finish polish is required afterwards. Loading the file with chalk or soapstone will improve the finish, you should also clean the file once in a while with a file card as small fragments of steel will clog between the teeth of the file and act as teeth themselves. This can cut quite gouge in your work piece and you will have to do some more work to get rid of it. At the wrong time it has the possibility of ruining your work. Draw filing is not only more controlled than conventional filing it also has the added advantage of being faster.
it's Monday my dudes
@glockfan112
8 жыл бұрын
Don't remind me.
First like
Why should I fund your channel? I already know how to break stuff. lol jk
Tapping that hole off center wasn't a good idea made me cringe the whole time
don't buy half tang knives.
@brottarnacke
7 жыл бұрын
Why not?
@arakseepoom5784
7 жыл бұрын
they are weak, of course.
@brottarnacke
7 жыл бұрын
They're plenty strong if they're done right and they weigh less. It all depends on what you're going to use them for.
@arakseepoom5784
7 жыл бұрын
varškėsapkepas they might serve fine for some purposes, but they are inherently weaker than one-piece knives.
@brottarnacke
7 жыл бұрын
+Arak Seepom If the tang has the right shape and is anchored properly in the epoxy, I'd say they serve fine for most purposes as long as you don't abuse them. Don't listen too much to "knife snobs" on the Internet.
Was a bit boring
need a lesson on tapping? go buy a real tap handle. tha DIE holder you are using is why you broke the tap.