Klopp's Liverpool v Mourinho's Chelsea: Combined XI | The Eleven |
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Liverpool fan Paul Machin and Chelsea supporter CareFreeLewisG debate who makes it into a team of Jurgen Klopp's Premier League champions of 19/20 and Jose Mourinho's title-winning Chelsea from 04/05 with Jack 'Pieface' McDermott as The Judge.
The Eleven brings a classic pub debate to life. Two rival football fans go head-to-head, to debate which players would make it into a combined team from their clubs. The Judge - a neutral fan - has the final say on each position on the pitch.
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Paul Machin of @theredmentv
CareFreeLewis G: @carefreelewisg
Jack 'Pieface' McDermott: @Pieface23
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With thanks to Paul Machin, CareFreeLewisG and Jack 'Pieface' McDermott
@lucaorso5744
Жыл бұрын
How Is Drogba better than Firmino in link up plays
Picking carvalho over Terry is peak football knowledge. That season he was impossible to play against.
@barry4649
Жыл бұрын
Terry did win PFA Player of the Year that year for a reason though. That partnership was the best in Premier League history
@jamesharper586
Жыл бұрын
@@barry4649 hahaha
@wolverine_lme5059
Жыл бұрын
though carvalho was a legend that season john terry was an unbelievable cb for the whole of his chelsea career and was the best leader that chelsea could have had
@tomaslima2371
Жыл бұрын
@@barry4649 because he is english in england my man
@sjacko1066
Жыл бұрын
@@barry4649Premier team of the year, European defender of the year and PFA player of the year. In the Fifa pro world 11. But this clown thinks Ricky was better 😂
That Chelsea fan understood what the debate was about, thus he chose Carvalho over Terry, not sure the judge did.
Pie face's weight loss and beating gambling addiction story is honestly inspiring.
@jamessetters8226
Жыл бұрын
Bit irrelevant
@oracle8589
Жыл бұрын
Looks like a young Bruce Campbell from an alternate universe where the Evil Dead was a flop so he never became famous and decided to eat his troubles away..
@LucasNauan
Жыл бұрын
@@jamessetters8226 How is it irrelevant when Pie is literally the moderator here? If this lad had made a compliment about a hot girl, I doubt that you would waste your time commenting that. Take a chill pill, we’re just showing a little respect to the lad’s work.
@bobbybobstar1496
Жыл бұрын
Calm down simpasouras stop begging it
@gypsyking1645
Жыл бұрын
He promotes kids to gamble on fifa
Jose’s Chelsea was a different kind of beast
11:25 Even as Liverpool fan there’s no way I’ve just heard Paul say Fabinho is the best DM in the Premier League, in 2023.
@clb6406
Жыл бұрын
He loves him mate. Liverpool fan here too. Rodri/partey/Casemiro streets ahead atm
@Stev4e897
Жыл бұрын
@@clb6406 only this year
@shil2357
Жыл бұрын
@@Stev4e897 Don't live in the past man, the player is way behind those three mentioned.
@mika-eelkhan15
Жыл бұрын
Casemiro plays Rugby mate😂
@peterfile4778
Жыл бұрын
@@mika-eelkhan15 ofc doing things different making himself stand out from the rest doing rugby tackles
3 gentlemen right there. Great to see Pieface doing so well after all the stuff he had to deal with, seems like such a good bloke.
@Yokemeister
Жыл бұрын
What did he have to deal with?
@jw045
Жыл бұрын
@@Yokemeister had a really bad gambling addiction and was fat
@JamieReynolds89
Жыл бұрын
@@jw045 was?
@robertsavage9655
Жыл бұрын
@@JamieReynolds89 nothing nice to say just don’t say anything? He was massive and has done very well for himself
@JamieReynolds89
Жыл бұрын
@@robertsavage9655 so you’re telling me to say nothing if I haven’t got surgut nice to say but you’re the one saying he was a massive lump of DNA?
As much a legend as JT is, Carvalho was an absolute monster that season
The audacity to even make a case against Makelele for Fabinho lol
@tommyvinceze6249
Жыл бұрын
In terms of careers, agreed. In terms of individual seasons, Fabinho was the best DM on the planet from 2018-2020. Whether he gets in or not, there is a debate.
@DS-dw3pz
4 ай бұрын
@@tommyvinceze6249lol Kante Busquets, Caseimiro, Rodri etc2 all exists so stop it
@tommyvinceze6249
4 ай бұрын
@@DS-dw3pz all those names you’ve said have had better careers, but you’re again missing the point it’s about individual seasons not a career. Even suggesting Rodri for that time period is an absolute embarrassment. Kante brilliant but played less than half the season he could never stay fit and Busquets is the best DM of all time but was well past his best. Casemiro is the only comparison.
Makelele playmaking ability was underrated. I remembered multiple teams in the EPL manmarked Makelele to stop the counter attacks he would release.
@C.Ronaldo7.2017
Жыл бұрын
Makelele was the team engine Bro was everywhere anytime After he left real Madrid they suffered a lot
@thedeviousgreek1540
Жыл бұрын
The liverpool guy said he wouldnt be as effective in the ''modern game'', imagine that.
@colbymasvidal2397
Жыл бұрын
@@thedeviousgreek1540 Lol and yet Kante is out here working wonders in the BPL👌 and Makelele was a better playmaker than Kante, sure Makelele would be fine these days😊
@abdulhadi5419
Жыл бұрын
"Why put another layer of gold paint on the Bentley when you are losing the entire engine?" -Zidane after Makelele was sold for Beckham
3 years of VVD and apparantly hes one of the best ever in prem history, behave man, JT 100x more of a prem legend than VVD
@Cnic0606
Жыл бұрын
Prem legend doesn’t mean is better he’s just won more in the prem van dijk is the better defender I don’t know how anyone can disagree he beats him in every defensive attribute
@benclarke8214
Жыл бұрын
@@Cnic0606 no he’s not Lmfao
@Cnic0606
Жыл бұрын
@@benclarke8214 what has he got over van dijk not passing not pace no strength not defending not heading so tell me
@LoyalFan9383
Жыл бұрын
@@benclarke8214 terry only has better leadership
@diskid3644
Жыл бұрын
@@Cnic0606 he literally doesn’t put a foot in, I know he had the injury but he was already falling off before that, if you’re scared to tackle people you can’t be called world class, I feel like he’d be getting a lot more criticism if he didn’t have Trent next to him putting in some of the worst performances I’ve ever seen from a supposedly ‘generational talent’
Great to see Pie being recognised as a good football pundit/ presenter
@bobbybobstar1496
Жыл бұрын
He isn't either here you plank
@jonnyhawkins7744
Жыл бұрын
@@bobbybobstar1496 What you on about?
@bobbybobstar1496
Жыл бұрын
@@jonnyhawkins7744 do you need help with everything?
@jonnyhawkins7744
Жыл бұрын
@@bobbybobstar1496 I think you do 'Bobby' you need it spoon fed to you.
@nottom7551
Жыл бұрын
@@jonnyhawkins7744 nah don’t get me wrong love pie seems like a top lad but had shite loads of bad takes in just this video
That Liverpool fan just compared Firminio to Bergkamp 😂😂😂
@leighpalmer1234
Жыл бұрын
In terms of technical ability absolutely
@delambo88
Жыл бұрын
@@leighpalmer1234 your sokong drugs
@rammerchandy1712
Жыл бұрын
@@leighpalmer1234 bruh
@handysphinx2125
Жыл бұрын
@@leighpalmer1234 alr just shush
@LoyalFan9383
Жыл бұрын
@@handysphinx2125 why don’t you
Carvalho was a scary defender,great pick tbh,what an underappreciated player
Carvalho was class..why was pie so shocked about that decision.
@m.a.r.4.5.6
Жыл бұрын
terry
@alextv293
Жыл бұрын
@@m.a.r.4.5.6 yeah Terry was worse than Carvalho you’re right fella x
@Milo_751
Жыл бұрын
That goal against newcastle earlier this season was clutch
@sebschneiders3713
Жыл бұрын
@@Milo_751 different carvalho
@alexrobinson1119
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree, Carvalho was class that season but John Terry (in the 04/05 season) was better than VVD was (in the 19/20 season)
Only top ball knowledge people know how underrated and under-appreciated Paulo Ferreira was guy always done his job well at Chelsea.
Are we going to skip past the fact he said he’s taking Robertson over prime Ashley Cole 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@PaulMuldoon97
Жыл бұрын
I know it's laughable that Coles name is mentioned in such a debate guy is only known for shooting an academy player or something
@mrjdgamer4287
Жыл бұрын
@@PaulMuldoon97 cole clear
@kaiblatch4992
Жыл бұрын
@@PaulMuldoon97 delusional mate cole is one of the best left backs of all time robbo could never 😅😅
@PaulMuldoon97
Жыл бұрын
@Kai Blatch look at the all time assists for full backs in the prem and look who's at that top of it where oh where is Ashley
@PaulMuldoon97
Жыл бұрын
@Kai Blatch Ashley Cole is literally what Glen Johnson would look like if he was a left back
I am a die hard Red and been going home and away for 30 odd years. I have been fortunate enough to witness some of the best players to ever live in the flesh including Messi, Ronaldo, Fat Ronaldo, Nesta, Maldini, Cannavaro... the list goes on. However, putting my Virgil bias aside, John Terry is the best defender I have ever seen in person. Good with both feet, could ping, brave, strong, great in the air, scored goals, proper leader, proper captain and a serial winner. If there was ever a defender that I wish was a scouser who played for Liverpool it would have been him.
@AJ-dl2by
Жыл бұрын
Your a Chelsea fan trying to comment as a liverpool fan. You’re not fooling anyone 😂😂
@nathans1126
Жыл бұрын
@@AJ-dl2by some people aren’t delusional and biased and can just speak the truth, it’s 2023 now brother, try it sometime
@mattvanemden7573
Жыл бұрын
Im a Liverpooll supporter of 30+ years and i completely agree.
@JayTheRed8
Жыл бұрын
@@AJ-dl2by no legit, John Terry was absolutely unbelievable and during our big rivalry there was nobody better.
@hi-ls6lt
Жыл бұрын
Saying “Fat Ronaldo” is a bit disrespectful though is it not?
Carvalho! So frikkin' good! Great shout! Unbelievably underrated centre back.
Man said Robertson is better than Ashley Cole 😩😩
Bravo for noting Carvalho. He was superb and for at least 3 seasons I think he was better than JT. Might be the most underrated CB in Prem history (comments, I said underrated!)
@jovanrudic3039
Жыл бұрын
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No proper Chelsea fan could ever back down on the JT Van Dijk argument
@ssamith3176
Жыл бұрын
Terry all day
@colefranklin965
Жыл бұрын
@@ssamith3176 no
@connorj6462
Жыл бұрын
@@colefranklin965 oh yes
@moreish7193
Жыл бұрын
King JT all day
@chrispeacock4614
Жыл бұрын
@@colefranklin965 you can’t seriously think Terry is not as good as Van Dijk. He’s levels above and his longevity exceeds miles farther than Virgil.
How can you say Terry didn’t have the making of a modern cb when he won the league in 14/15?
@moreish7193
Жыл бұрын
the guys a Bell End
@timtebow2444
Жыл бұрын
Because Liverpool.
@big_smokes_house6085
Жыл бұрын
He's a Liverpool fan
@chrispeacock4614
Жыл бұрын
Cos Liverpool fans can’t accept Van Dijk isn’t the player they think he is. He’s a fantastic centre half don’t get me wrong but he isn’t even top 10 centre backs of all time in the PL.
@xavier_2.0
Жыл бұрын
@@chrispeacock4614 hhahah never Already 3 years and hes in the debate He's wc only this season he's been off But even then he's picking up his performances He's got pace strength heading tackling and passing over jt The only think Jr had over him was the ability to shag ur bros wife
This is a class debate with no bullshit answers or reasons why just two guys who have decent ball knowledge
The Liverpool fan only ever watch Liverpool play or something?
@LoyalFan9383
Жыл бұрын
What
@adamhart70
Жыл бұрын
Fyi he was on a wind up this video 😂
@georgetinsley1558
Жыл бұрын
That’s most Liverpool fans. Most Liverpool fans were born in 2016 lol.
@markg6426
Жыл бұрын
Why?
I also thought Carvalho was a better player than Terry. But I can understand why Terry is rated higher by Chelsea fans due to him playing far more games for them and achieving far more.
@dionb7584
Жыл бұрын
He was also rated higher when they played together. Terry literally won the PL POTY from CB in 04-05 and was in the UEFA TOTY regularly
@Coxy_Wrecked
Жыл бұрын
@@dionb7584 Fair enough.I preferred Carvalho though. And he's cuter.
@oliandrews9739
Жыл бұрын
All these teens commenting how old was you all in 2004 ? Making out you know ball
@Coxy_Wrecked
Жыл бұрын
@@oliandrews9739 Not as old as you grandad.
@LoyalFan9383
Жыл бұрын
@@oliandrews9739 no one asked
Good team I agree with most of it. Maybe Terry only 1 I would replace but not mad at Carvalho as he was a beast too!
Terry has the best passing accuracy in premier League history. I think they might be too young to remember much of the Chelsea team cause I heard a lot of waffle
@kaydenn2791
Жыл бұрын
Passing accuracy doesn't mean anything if he doesn't take risk
@rossmcgowan123
Жыл бұрын
@@kaydenn2791 he was being compared to van dijk? Think about it. He did take risks too. He would knock it out wide and play passes through the middle. Just didn't hit worldly long balls
@user-io8cm4dk1f
Жыл бұрын
@@kaydenn2791 he used to ping the ball with either foot. Very underrated on the ball
JT best prem centre back of all time 17 years of class
@emperorpalpatine4681
Жыл бұрын
Rio better player. JT more influential to his team and better leader. Close matchup.
@FloatLABSLB
Жыл бұрын
How about that season?
@LoyalFan9383
Жыл бұрын
@@FloatLABSLB very good
@FloatLABSLB
Жыл бұрын
@@LoyalFan9383 better than vvd or cavalho?
@IonicWood97
Жыл бұрын
VVD finished 2nd in the Ballon D'or. There's not one aspect of Terry's game that was better than prime Virgil.
Mentions everything other than defensive ability, which is why JT is the greatest Premier league defender.
@joshd171294
Жыл бұрын
Greatest premier league CB*
from the back 4 and GK is all Chelsea with the 04/05 season the job is about defending and not conceding which they done the best simple facts.
@FloatLABSLB
Жыл бұрын
Team stats do not completely define an individual players performance over the season
@LoyalFan9383
Жыл бұрын
Just put Trent in there then it’s fine
@FountainOfYoot
Жыл бұрын
@@LoyalFan9383 if Trent was there they'd concede more than they did.
@hyywe240
Жыл бұрын
@@FloatLABSLB but this isn't like they're saying Terry is great because he didn't concede goals? They're talking about the defence as a whole, there's kinda no denying that right?
@chrislfc2317
Жыл бұрын
@@FountainOfYoot Trent 19/20 was class at defending
The fact they went for Ricardo Carvallo and VVD is great ball knowledge
Terry and Carvalho didn't concede the fewest goals in premier league history, it's a weirdly misrepresented fact that. Why does no one remember that Carvalho got injured just before the record clean sheet record run started then came back from injury the game it ended. Chelsea's best CB partnership statistically was Terry and Gallas
Liverpool Luxury: Only 1 Title and you're suddenly the best in Prem History
@97YNWA97
Жыл бұрын
Well statistically we are one of the best teams in prem history based of points tally’s. Liverpool have got 90+ points in 3 seasons. Only Chelsea once and City 3x have ever got over 90 points.
@Redzer.
Жыл бұрын
Well this is based off a single season. 98 points. 33 wins, most of any team in PL history.
@LoyalFan9383
Жыл бұрын
Why’s a Man City fan talking, win a champions league then talk
@hi-ls6lt
Жыл бұрын
Not the swarm of scousers coming to this comment 😂
@newgorkcity
7 ай бұрын
@@LoyalFan9383😂
Chelsea conceeded 16 goals the entire season yet somehow the back 4 has 3 Liverpool players in it...
@tommyvinceze6249
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, because sometimes the records aren’t just down to individual players, they’re down to systems. Liverpool played all out attacking football, Mourinho played very defensive football, so naturally they will concede fewer goals. Can you really debate Trent VVD or Robertson, three of the best individual seasons of all time in their positions?
@taygoudie6974
Жыл бұрын
Cole over Trent all day long and ivanovic over Robertson 😂 tf
@tommyvinceze6249
Жыл бұрын
@@taygoudie6974 what?
@grapefruit531
Жыл бұрын
Obviously because mourinho plays strictly defensive football
@Infernius
Жыл бұрын
@@tommyvinceze6249 I'd peck Paulo over TAA personally, the lad is quality on the ball but cannot defend and I've got enough attacking players to not worry about my right back chipping in.
Van Dijk is a class centre back and one of the best the prem has seen but there is no way you can say he is better than John Terry
@nolpan9708
Жыл бұрын
How? Name me 2 things terry is better at
@boxinganalysis9818
Жыл бұрын
@@nolpan9708 defensive awareness, leadership, could pass with both feet, highest scoring cb in prem history, consistent for 10+ years, went a whole prem season only conceding 13 goals. Being big and covering distance quickly doesn’t make you better then the best cb in prem history ffs 😂
@eddyededwin
Жыл бұрын
@@boxinganalysis9818 i mean he is quite literally the best leader of all time and prolly top 5 best goal scoring defenders in the prem lol
@tommyvinceze6249
Жыл бұрын
@@boxinganalysis9818 this is the point you’re struggling with. We are not comparing who is the greater premier league centre back, because the answer would be JT for his longevity like you say. We’re comparing individual seasons, a season in which VVD finished only a handful of votes off winning the Ballon Dor, he was that good. No CB on the planet came close to him from 2018 up until he done his ACL.
I am sure John Terry was pretty painful to play against for strikers. Great leader aswell.
If anybody watched carvalho before and after Chelsea. They will know the fella was one of the best defenders of his generation. From a porto fan. I tell ya the man has a footballing iq on par with the best. I'm not gonna sit here and say he was better or worse than Terry or any other top level defender. However, comparing him to the greatest shouldn't be a shock as he is a great himself. Prem league watchers just live in their own bubble and anything beyond that is out of their reach.
@marcosilva2319
Жыл бұрын
Eles sabem que o Carvalho foi melhor, mas o terry é ingles e para eles isso faz a diferença. Senao admitiam que o Carvalho foi melhor que Terry nessa epoca
Love the combined XI videos!
Im just glad of these videos i suffer mental health/depression but liverpool make me so so happy goodnight x
The Chelsea fan keeps grabbing the orange juice like we're going to steal it off him
@ayrtunbuckley2393
Жыл бұрын
"were" i dont think your in the video
Imagine having a CB who’s been good for 18 months over terry 😂
@DevDRed-ns3hg
Жыл бұрын
good for 18 months but made uefa TOTY 4/5 years loooool
@FountainOfYoot
Жыл бұрын
@@DevDRed-ns3hg and then nosedived.
@anandchaudhary1675
Жыл бұрын
@@DevDRed-ns3hg People still says Van djik is best CB and he has made many errors leading to goal. He doesn't get banter as much as other CB get. Van djik is really good defender but not as good as Terry. That season when Van djik was on top because Liverpool played with 3 midfielder who did lots of defensive work and made Van djik look much better. But still Van djik is good , not much good as Terry.
@DevDRed-ns3hg
Жыл бұрын
@@FountainOfYoot lol social media narrative he's been very good the last 2 months but hey go off
@FountainOfYoot
Жыл бұрын
@@DevDRed-ns3hg lol congratulations he's been very good for the last two months. How has he been this season? Also...which one of the top defenders in PL history has been a starter for a team that conceded 7 goals?
If you take the careers of the players into account rather than just one isolated season you would have more Chelsea players as they had an era of dominance rather than just one title winning season.
There is no argument to be had between Drogba and Firmino. Drogba is miles clear
@jojadoom
Жыл бұрын
In which way?
@akramebrahim1446
Жыл бұрын
In getting red card for slapping vidic. I love him for that. Lol lol 😆 for me his finest moment.
@stivib5937
Жыл бұрын
Its not that big of difference
Never seen anyone as good in one on one situations as Alisson? Big Pete was the best at one on ones.
One guy was talking about a player performance that year , while the other was talking about the players carrer in the club overall .
I'm a liverpool fan but firmino over drogba is got to be one of the worst things I've ever heard
@akramebrahim1446
Жыл бұрын
Are u mad .... firminos a better better footballer any day of the year. Drogba is only useful in chelskis mourinhio filthball. Kick players hoof the ball kick out of play crap. Bobby is just sublime. You are no liverpool or football fan. Dnt u dare disrespect Bobby firminio. 300 games for us . The player that makes us play.
@kjctvsym1
Жыл бұрын
@@akramebrahim1446 I highly rate firmino, one of are best players in the klopp era but if u think he's better then drogba Ur smoking spice bro
@akramebrahim1446
Жыл бұрын
@@kjctvsym1 he is better than Drogba. Go support Drogba well support n cherish the best in the world bobby firmino. Drogbas just a thug on a field compared to bobby football wise.
@akramebrahim1446
Жыл бұрын
You saying you a liverpool fans the worst thing I ever heard. You are no liverpool supporter. Ur one of those fools that would boo hendo. N put a legend of our team behind Drogba
@kjctvsym1
Жыл бұрын
@@akramebrahim1446 I've been supporting since 2003 u melt, drogba 2005 season was better then firmino 2019 season, the worst thing you've ever heard 😂, have u ever even been to anfield?
Exactly the team I would have picked. Fair play
Mourinho' team easy win
@nolpan9708
Жыл бұрын
Just no
@kas6177
Жыл бұрын
@@nolpan9708just yes
I love these when the guys actually have ball knowledge
Thanks for having me on!
@Robyamdam
Жыл бұрын
"take him on"
@mardanhar82
Жыл бұрын
GGs Lewis! yo we just signed Noni! :)
Liverpool fan absolutely delusional, Robertson over Cole if he'd played for Chelsea that season 🙄.
@vakhogotsiridze6488
Жыл бұрын
Cole played at arsenal at that time
@Redzer.
Жыл бұрын
Based off a single season Robertson got like 13 assists, kept 21 clean sheets, show some respect.
@alanhock5760
Жыл бұрын
@@vakhogotsiridze6488 that's why he said " if he'd played for Chelsea that season"🤦🏻♂️
@IonicWood97
Жыл бұрын
Robertson most assists from a fullback in Prem history. Nostalgia can be a powerful thing.
Chelsea fan had a great amount of knowledge
John Terry and Ashley Cole should get in there all day long. And although the focus is on one particular season for each club, Terry and Cole had more good seasons at their peak than Virgil and Robertson are showing currently.
@stephenskyle609
Жыл бұрын
Ashley Cole from Arsenal should get into a Chelsea 04/05 and Liverpool 19/20 combined season?
@wh4169
Жыл бұрын
@@stephenskyle609 🤣🤣🤣
@hyywe240
Жыл бұрын
I've not watched the whole video but did they not pick ashely Cole? That's stupid
@wafflesjmr
Жыл бұрын
You just stated the focus is ONE particular season and you still go on to make that statement about other seasons........
@Rkid26.
Жыл бұрын
Cole didn’t join Chelsea until ‘06 mate
Comparing Roberto Firmino to Dennis Bergkamp is the epitome of Liverpool delusions.
@cvhvtz671
Жыл бұрын
That season
Did he just say that firmino will be remembered in the same light as Dennis bergkamp? 🤣
@Stev4e897
Жыл бұрын
why not
Can’t believe VVD made it into this team. JT makes it into every single PL team,no questions asked.
@marko9463
Жыл бұрын
To be fair its that year where vvd was mopping everything up, I believe terry’s best year was not this year. What im tryna say is the argument is the year specifically. Vvd and terry were close in terms of what they were to each team that season.
@danielmchale7635
4 ай бұрын
Van Dyk that Season was the best player/defended in the world he was acknowledged for a Balloon Dor and should've won
I certainly remember thiago's goal at Old Trafford that season 🚀
How do Liverpool have the best players in every position in prem history yet only have 1 premier league title
@sib1930
Жыл бұрын
Not the point
@unnamed3086
Жыл бұрын
2 games difference and it’s 3. All about perspective mate
@mchachorichard1166
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂 good point
@HT008
Жыл бұрын
Because city have a better squad lol kinda obvs
@dozz87
Жыл бұрын
Who said that? I’ve seen rival fans post that rubbish online, but haven’t heard many lfc fans actually say it though? Even in this video Paul wasn’t saying that 😂
Cup final coming up and I'm asking to pick Prime Terry or Prime Virgil.. Its a close one but I'd go for Terry. Despite all his off field issues he was a proper leader on the pitch. Not quick but his positioning was top and Id back him to put his body on the line more than Virgil. Both quality players though
That Liverpool guy is too funny 1 compares Bloody firmino to Berkamp 🤷♂️ 2 would pick Robertson even if Ashley Cole was there that season OMG 🤣 3 lastly says Trent might be known as the best right back ever once he finishes his career 😭 OK mate Cafu & Alves were cricketers Liverpool guy is more biased than Gary Neville
@nathans1126
Жыл бұрын
Clueless Liverpool fan, it’s sad to see but it’s the world we live in
@nmz3450
Жыл бұрын
Every Liverpool fan is like this, they haven't had success for so long, got lucky with Klopp and now think all these decent players who Klopp made are the best in the world
@spinofthewheel5345
Жыл бұрын
He thinks speaking fast and using his hands to speak makes his point a fact
How dominant were liverpool when they won the league? Still didn't have the best defence in prem history. Carvalho and JT were incredible. I had a season ticket over that time and often would check the reviews of games. Terry would get a 7 or 8 rating and Carvalho would get a 6 when if anything, would be the other way around. Drogba wasnt the player he became ironically until Shevchenko arrived. My team. Cech Trent Carvalho Terry Robertson Makalele Lampard Henderson Salah Drogba Mane
@HT008
Жыл бұрын
How dominate? Fastest team to win the prem ever! That’s how dominate lol
@dannyduggan4324
Жыл бұрын
@@HT008 exactly my point. Still didn't do what Chelsea did in 04/05. Which if you carried on reading and could process information you would have understood.
Cech, Trent, Terry, Carvalho, Cole, Lampard, Essien, Makelele, Salah, Drogba, Mane. No debate.
@g-1393
3 ай бұрын
No debate cuz u said so?💀
"Do you like vanilla ice cream?" LMAO
That liverpool is a weapon. Trying to play down makelele as nostalgia and saying how he wouldn’t be good in the modern day prem 🤦🏼♂️
the chelsea fan makes a bit of sense though, it’s a bit like choosing matip over konate based off last season, matip was better but konate will probably go on to have a better career so looking back people will say konate was the better centre back when realistically it was matip, it’s just konate showed the potential he had
@chrislfc2317
Жыл бұрын
But this is about two seasons only
Stick for choosing Cech????? He played 35 games and kept 24 clean sheets. If anybody picks Alisson, they need their head checking.
@jamiehayes5888
Жыл бұрын
A goal keeper is only as good as there defence . Put cech in a different side he would have had less clean sheets right or wrong ?
@rbstickymicky66
Жыл бұрын
Wrong
@sharvaansharex
Жыл бұрын
@@jamiehayes5888 De Gea has proven u wrong throughout the years
@jamiehayes5888
Жыл бұрын
@@sharvaansharex how has he ? His A shot stopper his shit at commanding his area his shit with his feet 🤣 There are so many out there better that can do the lot .
@sharvaansharex
Жыл бұрын
@@jamiehayes5888 De Gea has been a world class gk for man utd, got into multiple team of the seasons while his backlines have been Jones,Maguire,Smalling,Rojo etc
it’s tough doing this as u can base it off prime season of whole career, like jt had a better career than vvd but vvd’s peak season was better
Great video but can I ask what is Pieface's trim? It's confusing me.
Feels like this was filmed months ago with Paul opinion on Fabinho
@thethreeeamibros
Жыл бұрын
so you clearly havent watched what the video concept is. Typical thick city fan
@Jeevzsk
Жыл бұрын
But its 19/20. Fab was 100% the best dm that season
@snookerstones
Жыл бұрын
@@Jeevzsk if he meant that season then I agree but he said it like he meant right now. I like him by the way, very honest fan.
@snookerstones
Жыл бұрын
@@thethreeeamibros relax bro
Chelsea Backline and GK beats liverpools Backline And GK All day long conceding 15 goals for a whole premier league season is mental and wont be beaten
@jamiehayes5888
Жыл бұрын
Ahh but that was down to a low block set up from mourinho too. Not just about the defenders you had. Chelsea were set up to not lose games .
@Stev4e897
Жыл бұрын
every record will be beaten someday
@Mrnom93
Жыл бұрын
@Jamie Hayes well yeah because mourinho played counter attacking football low block defensive and made it hard to play against and win on a 1-0 hence why his home record of staying unbeaten for 77 games was mental Liverpool was the closest but failed
@Mrnom93
Жыл бұрын
@National Treasure with the way teams are playing attacking football I doubt it and having high scoring games all the time I doubt it to concede 15 goals in a season is pretty special
Having a laugh with Firminio there, only think he went for that because of the initial Robben debate lol
@matrix35
Жыл бұрын
He couldnt let that one go. So biased. Also delusional thinking Alison over Cech!
Jesus how is Drogba and firminho a debate. Drogba was a beast
I don’t think you can have a debate about Salah One of the best players in premier league history
@wehatemancs4393
Жыл бұрын
Manc
@filthyuncleben2645
Жыл бұрын
hazard>salah
@asianwarrior2193
Жыл бұрын
@@filthyuncleben2645 the guy that was finished at 29?
@zorenwhite7886
Жыл бұрын
@@asianwarrior2193 Salah is finished at 30
@VishwadeepShinde
Жыл бұрын
@@zorenwhite7886 Yeah. Scoring 17goals and 6 assist this season in 28 games is finished. The Liverpool team is struggling overall but still he's scoring goals. Give some respect to the man.
If it's season Klopp won the league before 6-8 games before the season ended dominated 3-0 3-2 4-0 5-0 every game destroying team while Jose did have best defence domination alone klopp
@FloatLABSLB
Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry I don't understand this sentence
@Kloppsserialbottlers
Жыл бұрын
@@FloatLABSLB He's scouse, they type like they talk, arseways.
@LoyalFan9383
Жыл бұрын
@@Kloppsserialbottlers but I thought Liverpool fans were plastic
@sib1930
Жыл бұрын
@@Kloppsserialbottlers Better than being a posh londoner
The Trent Delusion lmfao
Apparently Robertson is better than Ashley Cole 😂😂😂😂😂the football knowledge is crazy
How can Trent be the best right back of all time when he’s at best average at defending😂 Liverpool fans are really up there when it comes to overrating players.
@scotthamilton6237
Жыл бұрын
It's about that one season you muppet
@jojadoom
Жыл бұрын
Have you seen his assist numbers for 23 years old?
@scotthamilton6237
Жыл бұрын
@@jojadoom I saw all the trophies he's won and only 23 there we're talking about one season and trent was the best rb in 19/20 season so stop moaning you sad pathetic kid
@jojadoom
Жыл бұрын
@@scotthamilton6237 cheers mate for the comment at the end can tell you’re a nice bloke but all you have to do is look at the stats and I’d argue he would have won 5x more premier leagues if it wasn’t for the super team that is Manchester City
@bhumikjoshi4573
Жыл бұрын
@@jojadoom you gets assist no when you don't give shit in terms of defending.
Paolo fereira was a monster lads
I can’t stand how arrogant the Liverpool fan is🤡 no wonder their fan base is hated
To even suggest Robertson above Ashley Cole is utterly ridiculous.
The greatest CB partnership in The League were JT and Carvalho. VDV had two great seasons in his career and Liverpool fans act like he was one of the greatest. I will place the likes of Vidic ahead of him.
@chrislfc2317
Жыл бұрын
In terms of career wise yes, but this is about 19/20 season vs 04/05 season
@tommyvinceze6249
Жыл бұрын
@@chrislfc2317 well said Chris
Van Dijk had 3 good seasons. Terry was at Chelsea for over 10 years.
@chrislfc2317
Жыл бұрын
But this is about the 19/20 season, they're bot ranking them based off their careers
The biggest reason Carvalho's name doesn't get mentioned in best centrebacks conversations is because he isn't English.
What’s Lewis smokin there Robben over Salah? 😂
it's an era thing Liverpool fans so delusional Ashley Cole better than any LB Liverpool have ever had
@LoyalFan9383
Жыл бұрын
No it’s not
no ball knowledge, Ricardo Carvalho was by far the best CB of them all
@nolpan9708
Жыл бұрын
💀
I'd have as the best Premier League defensive partnership, Terry and Carvalho or Vidić and Rio, so hard not to have both in
I am Portuguese and Carvalho its top 2 center backs from Portugal. He goes against pepe but even when he was playing with 38 he was one of the best cbs on the world
As a Chelsea fan, I would've liked a representative with more passion and more drive within his arguments for this simply phenomenal Chelsea team. Brilliant overall team but come on be more passionate with your arguments show some convictions and don't let yourself be walked over by scousers.
@nathans1126
Жыл бұрын
Tbf the team they picked out was perfect I’d say, I don’t think I’d disagree with any of them and he was really chill but he’s not biased and delusional like most fans like that liverpool fan wasn’t bad but said a few things that shout delusional bias
@ZESTCFC
Жыл бұрын
Can’t be that passionate about something that happened when he was about 5-10 years old I’d imagine. Not sure why he didn’t go for Carlos 2010 team. Essien and A.Cole would of been shoe ins . Anelka arguably too. Could of had 6 Chelsea Cech JT Cole Essien Lampard Drogba. And argued a case for anelka over Salah and probably more memorable fir his given it was 5 years later
@ZESTCFC
Жыл бұрын
Also 2010 CFC front 3 scored 52 goals and 2019 Liverpools front 3 scored 42 . Malouda scored more than mane did. And Ballack gets in over Henderson.
@Penaldian
Жыл бұрын
@@ZESTCFC Malouda scored 12 in 09/10, Mane scored 18 in 19/20 what r u on about? 💀 That 09/10 team were lucky for most of the season (shoulve lost to United in their first meeting) and were in a neck and neck race with a CR7 less United for a majority of the season not dominating like 04/05 did.
Statistically that one season based on points tally’s that Liverpool side is the 2nd best in prem history. Just behind the centurions in Man City. I don’t get why all these rival fans getting so triggered 😂
@FloatLABSLB
Жыл бұрын
Statistically that one season based on defensive record, that Chelsea side is the 1st best in premier league history.
@Kloppsserialbottlers
Жыл бұрын
The only stats that matter in ANY season are what cups did you win. And Liverpools best double since 2001 is the Carabao cup and FA cup haha. You're jokers lads.
@LoyalFan9383
Жыл бұрын
@@Kloppsserialbottlers I mean chelsea have oil money so their trophies don’t count
@jry6432
Жыл бұрын
@@LoyalFan9383 whenever you rival fans get proven wrong can always count on you to run back to the oil money excuse 😂
@chrislfc2317
Жыл бұрын
@@Kloppsserialbottlers We won the league, Super Cup and Club World Cup, and at one point in time we were also ucl holders along with those
Drogba scored 10 goals in the league that season, Firmino had 9. And we all know who does more in other aspects. Firmino for that season takes it over Drogba’s season
I agree with everything save Carvalho over Terry. Nice one
the cole vs robertson debate is hard, robertson did nothing wrong defensively and going forward he’d provide so much, yes cole was better defensively but robertson would only give away 2/3 goals a season from individual errors whereas he’d provide 10 assists a year, cole wouldn’t concede any. It’s similar to trent vs walker, walker wouldn’t make defensive errors but wouldn’t do much going forward, trent would give up a couple goals but assist 15
Cashley is the best prem LB of al time, its not up for discussion haha.
@FootkerSnookball
Жыл бұрын
No way was he as good as Irwin or Evra and their career's stats & honours completely justify that statement.
@mardanhar82
Жыл бұрын
@Dan ..Hold on did you just compare Evra to Cole? 😂
@FootkerSnookball
Жыл бұрын
@@mardanhar82 The player who had the better 2008 champions league final out of the 2 and was in the winning team? Evra also created the best chance of the match while Cole was outran & beaten to the ball by CR7 despite cashley having a few yards headstart which almost led to 2-0 & game over. It's not hard to work out. Evra & Cashley are both the same age and they also both played for ManUtd & Chelsea respectively from 2006 to 2014 and Evra & ManUtd absolutely dominated the PL in that period and Chelski didn't at all they just got 1 fixed PL title in 8years by 1 point after cheating home&away vs the best team again ManUtd who were the better team in those head-to-heads also. Irwin would've been best LB for many PL years, likewise Evra. Where as Cashley could've only been the best PL LB for a couple years max and it would've been after Irwin left ManUtd and before Evra joined ManUtd so whilst Cashley was at Arsenal not Chelski. Evra & Cashely also moved to SeriaA in 2014/15, Evra continues to do better than Cole by winning the league and reaching another CL final. Cole won what with Roma? Cole didn't even win anything with the most famous team in MLS. Evra got further for his national team he made a final, Cashley never made it past QF. Evra even got to a champions league final with Monaco funnily enough the same year Cashley only reached the QF with so called invincibles. Cashley never won back-to-back league titles in his career despite playing 14 PL years for strong title chasing clubs etc...Evra easily could've won 7 PL's in a row but he still got 5 in 7 seasons. Evra was a very important player in ManUtd's dominance in the time he played for them and you've got to also take into account no one should've been dominating Chelski during this time Chelski were trying to buy the PL & CL every 1of those years and they just cheated/fluked 1 PL & 1 CL in those 8 years. Cole's best strength he's fast wow so is Evra, Evra was also good defender and I think better at assisting & scoring. Evra & Cashley were both 1 footed so Cashley can't even say he was better in that regard. Evra overall was just better and I don't think his better career than Cole was just a fluke. Also not just Evra & Irwin but most people in general are smarter than AshleyCole who just sounds so dumb. I bet Evra knows how to speak more languages than Cole. I was going to say Cole can only speak English but he can barely do that. He was also shit role model ill disciplined and a cheater on & off the pitch etc...
@bertmcinnes1243
Жыл бұрын
@@FootkerSnookball 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@nathans1126
Жыл бұрын
@@FootkerSnookball Cole and Evra in the same sentence 😂 you don’t know ball brother
we need a la liga version for this
Im a big Bobby Firmino fan but mab Bobby over Drogs?😂Your having a laugh. Cech,Trent,Carvalho,JT(capt)Cole, Lamps,Makalele,Gerrard Salah,Drogba,Hazard
This liverpool fan is off his head. Claiming his cup had a treble when they didn't. VVD is noway stronger than Terry. John Terry played even if his arm.was hanging off
@FloatLABSLB
Жыл бұрын
Does that make him stronger physically or mentally?
@spinofthewheel5345
Жыл бұрын
@@FloatLABSLB both
Stupid English folks are the ones who don't remember a superb Tiago. A living legend for Lyon and Atletico Madrid and a super important player in that Chelsea's team. Rewind a few years back and watch him AGAIN
@ttyo127
Жыл бұрын
As a Chelsea fan, Tiago was bang average at Chelsea, you just sound like s salty Portuguese
Delusion was real when he said he would of picked Robertson over Cole