Kiyo Pro HDR Webcam. Razer step the game up
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Its a webcam. Most of them are b*llocks, and its safe to say they aren't the most exciting piece of hardware you will ever buy - but in this crazy world right now many of us need one to communicate.
Razer have released their new Kiyo Pro camera, and its a pretty remarkable product - supporting HDR capabilities and high quality audio. We didn't go into this review too excited, but by the end we left very impressed. It's not without problems, and might not be for everyone, but Andrew explains the pros and cons in our review today.
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Start
00:15 Introduction and pricing
01:21 What is the Kiyo Pro about? Unboxing
02:05 DSLR killer - Razer’s aim, technical details
05:11 Some positive points including detachable cable
06:05 Size comparison with other webcams
06:29 Swivel. Not you, the camera
06:40 Build quality discussion and some design decisions
07:16 Microphones Test
08:06 Lens and HDR specifics
09:26 Razers claims and testing comparisons
12:31 HDR on and HDR off comparison
12:50 Andy’s take on image quality
14:34 Autofocus issues - set manual to rectify
15:11 Razer Synapse software options
16:12 Field of View options
16:36 More Software options
17:15 Closing Thoughts
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This video popped up in my Google News feed, probably because I have researched webcams in the past. First time I've ever seen your channel and thought it was fantastic--super informative, well-produced, and right down to business with no fluff. You've earned a new subscriber.
@captaindogee
3 жыл бұрын
Actually 2. 😊 I had an adveritise pop up with this Webcam. I was looking for a good review! I find it. 😊💪
@KitGuruTech
Жыл бұрын
thank you !
This is a very tempting product.... thanks for the quality review KitGuru!
Very thorough and analytical, clear concise tests.. Great Review. Thanks!
I watched this video, as I am waiting for my Kiyo Pro to arrive tomorrow. I'm much more informed before my unboxing, thanks to you. Excellent review!
wow... amazing video and demonstration, thanks so much for the content. Subscribed :)
The Razer Kiyo is a nice webcam and the design is fine by me. Picture colour is quite good. However as stated below, the price 🤯 OUCH! And the C920 did do a vg job in comparison. Great in depth review once again by Kitguru 🥰👍🥳. Great work Andy!
Razer: Here's our new Kiyo Pro. Auto Focus: Always has been.
Comprehensive review. Thanks.
@KitGuruTech
3 жыл бұрын
glad you enjoyed it!
woa! i have not heard about this tech channel, glad I found it.
this video just got me to get the kiyo pro thank you very much KitGuruTech
This will explain why the regular Kiyo has sold out everywhere lol Looks like I’ll be grabbing one of these!
Awesome review, cheers
very comprehensive review, going through all the flaws and features, thanks. just missing the shot of the webcam in action, i wanted to see the led incidator.
@bluerune7305
3 жыл бұрын
its just a lil white light thats barely noticeable.
It's a very interesting concept, speaking as someone who recently bought a DSLR for use as a webcam (though, I've since gotten into photography which you can't really do with this) Also, it doesn't seem like you can swap out the lenses, which some people won't care about, but it'll be limiting for others (especially from how it's marketed). Means there's no hardware focus, filters, or anything like that. As a plug and play device, it's great. Though, looking at the webcam market as a whole, it's not all that high of a bar to get above. I feel like there's not been any kind of real innovation in a long long time, so this will hopefully work to get everyone else's heads in the game.
The original Kiyo has the same issue with AF and they never fixed it lol
@sschueller
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, first thing I noticed. The AF going crazy...
@thirteen2k
3 жыл бұрын
And no built-in light like the last gen Kiyo?
@Haz3Nation
3 жыл бұрын
@@thirteen2k yea so seems worse lol. the best thing about this is the ring light
@kharkaroto9486
2 жыл бұрын
Thats because Synapse doesn't install firmware updates. You have to get them manually from the Razer firmware page. There is a recent update for the Kiyo Pro so there must be one for the Kiyo.
@kharkaroto9486
2 жыл бұрын
@@thirteen2k Kiyo Pro does't need the light because of the sensor it uses.
Thanks fro this Very good Video.
I feel like the Aver media did a lil better with the bright blowout with HDR off, but the detail in the Kiyo was much better. Turn that HDR on and woah... it's no competition.
Great vid - cheers !
If you go on Razer's website there is a firmware update that fixes the autofocus issues.
@GearObsession
2 жыл бұрын
Nope, it does not.
@derricksmith3973
Жыл бұрын
@@GearObsession the firmware update fixed mine 🤷🏾♂️
That autofocus is a killer.
@kisha_music
2 жыл бұрын
You can easily turn it off lol
The mic is really good! I wouldn't be able to tell that you were using a webcam mic if you used it in another video.
Go Kiyo. Thanks for the review.
I have the original Kiyo I will continue using that thanks
Great details, KitGuru! Quick check, after switching off AF, does it still have this issue?
nice vid Andy! Background music track is…?
saw this and picked one up for $87 thanks for the review
Damn, I use the logi c920 myself and the Kiyo walks all over it quality wise, I'm impressed!
when its in focus it kills the others. and since it has manual focus that wouldnt be an issue with someone like myself. manual focus is better anyways in most cases.
@AlbertoMartinez765
3 жыл бұрын
Right!
@dodo19923
3 жыл бұрын
"BuT It's rAzEr sO It MuSt bE RubBiSh"... Few comments complaining about auto focus, doesn't this have a manual option, i'm sure it does. For MOST applications the auto focus isn't a big enough problem ie zoom calls, now whatsapp video on desktop and *insert medium here*. People love shitting on things because it doesn't fit their exact needs, so buy a different one then lmao. And how many people are actually streaming games and not using these for video/conference calling with friends or work ect? I'm biased cause i use my dslr but tbh it's big and bulky, might consider this webcam if the price drops on a sale.
@mikieson
3 жыл бұрын
@@dodo19923 ive bought my first Razer keyboard a couple months ago and its been great. Think it was 80is dollars at walmart. its my first mechanical keyboard. Im not a fan of the "clicky clicky" sounds,but over all,its been great so far.
@dodo19923
3 жыл бұрын
@@mikieson Yeah, people complain way too much about razer... tis' the state of the internet i'm afraid... Give's people the ability to bitch and moan about everything they could ever dream of, which in turn only makes them worse. I have a gen 1 razer phone and it's an absolute tank, battery still gives me a day or more, not slowed down a single bit, no build issues whatsoever and i've had it since release date.. weird how taking care of things means they last eh?
Surely the comparisons should be with webcams actually in the same price point or at least closer? Regardless of whether these other webcams are higher resolution, could just be tested at 1080p to show apples to apples what with Razor focusing on image quality and handling of light over resolution. Examples: Logitech C922 Stream - £94.99 Logitech StreamCam - £139.99 Logitech BRIO Stream - £219.99 AverMedia PW513 - £220 Would be interesting to hear your thoughts.
Looks good
The constant autofocus is a deal killer for me...
@alemora420
3 жыл бұрын
If you don't like it, you have the manual focus
@AlbertoMartinez765
3 жыл бұрын
Just turn it off its a OPTION not a Must have on all the time lol.
@shaolin95
3 жыл бұрын
@@alemora420 or get something that actually works.. Is 2021 not 1995
@alemora420
3 жыл бұрын
@@shaolin95 1995 shots in your head, it is the best webcam so far and for the simple fact of being Razer they look for the slightest problem to be able to criticize it.
@sonicwingnut
3 жыл бұрын
I tend to use manual focus anyway but I wish he'd addressed the AF issue earlier in the video then turned it off for all the tests.
Video (and surprisingly audio quality) is very damn good but that auto focus is out of control lol. I'd actually consider it if it were on sale for like 100 or 120 but 199 is too much.
@jariszulqarnain4241
3 жыл бұрын
get the normal kiyo then
@thirteen2k
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah seemed only marginally better than the Logitech at more than twice the cost. But It is a good market to go after--there's very little on the high end webcam market without getting into DLSR and advanced setups.
@ivke4835
3 жыл бұрын
For 120, Logitech is better.
@ToddSauve
3 жыл бұрын
@@thirteen2k The Pro's image and audio are better than anything else on the market for a webcam. The audio is decent and the autofocus is defeatable. When properly set up like that with manual focus it is the clearly superior option to everything else, except a DSLR and dedicated microphone. But the latter will cost considerably more before you are up and running with it. So, when all other options are considered I'd get the Razer Kiyo Pro and be happy.
For those unfamiliar with the Canon utility, it works well but comes with some serious caveats. Such as not using the inbuilt microphone, clashing with other canon utility software and being of limited use unless you have a DC power cable for your camera ( which is often quite expensive ).
@dodo19923
3 жыл бұрын
I use a canon dslr and it's a ballache with the battery length ect. Great quality but there are limiting factors and most people want a plug and play webcam current year considering (2020's have been great so far lmao)
How do you think this compares to the Logitech Brio and the AVerMedia Live Streamer CAM 513? Thanks for the thorough review!
i just ordered the Logitech streamercam and was about to cancel my order because of other reviewers saying its better, and your video made me change my mind again and keep my order. The camera looks nice but the software with razer doesnt seem as good and the auto focus is totally out of whack. Logitech is very reliable and this video made me feel more comfortable with the purchase decision.
@Kouyah_1
2 жыл бұрын
the recent firmware update fixes the autofocus. its good now
That was a very good video of the new pro camera. On my current Kiyo Camera that I bought 2 weeks ago I cant seem to adjust HDR at all but I can access everything else. Thankfully when I exit the Synapse it remains with the same settings when I record a quick voice over video using Wondershare Filmora 9. Pretty happy with it. My only complaint about my current camera is that it doesn't fit on top of the Raptor 27 monitor that well. It takes like 3/8" of an inch from the center of the screen like a notch. The pro version shown here is smaller from that L shape notch and does NOT block the screen so I will definitely pick it up maybe for Black Friday if the price drops a bit lol! I won't pay $199.99 for it.
What about the focus distance range? One of the big problems with the C920 is without modding the lens anything more than about 50cm away from it was a shitty blurry mess. Doing the comparisons split screen instead of A/B/C made this hard to make out. I think for £200 I'd want an optical zoom of some kind too.
I would love to know where that wallpaper came from on the monitor behind him? , thx :)
Great camera, let down by the software not running on Mac. Theres an app called Web Cam Settings, that works, but doesn’t allow you to engage the wide angle function, which is why I bought the camera. Found a fix. If you use Zoom, click the HD tab. Camera then goes to full wide angle. 👍
Great video! I have a Logitech C920 and I am looking at improving Zoom call quality at home. Just ordered the Razer Kiyo with ring light direct from Razer based on the idea of not having to have a seperate lighting source. However I will not be ordering the Pro model after seeing your video. For sleekness and cost, do you recommend a single or pair Elgato key light air to go with the Kiyo Pro? They also make desk clamp stand for them.
Theres actually a razer camera not much people know about. The Razer Kiyo X. I've seen a couple of reviews and the quality is pretty damn good. I'd like to hear your thoughts on it.
For DSLR killer, I was hoping for some depth of field from the lens...
Finally a webcam a 1080p with 60 fps
Auto focus is not an issue anymore they firmware updated it and most new models should already be fixed.
My experience with the microphone test was very different, the microphone being very quiet. The picture quality isn't fantastic either, creating noise, some blurry image around edges, while also having some edges really looking like anti-aliasing is needed.
What kind of cable is the "cable for the camera" and can u buy a longer one ... link if possible please
For something that chunky you might as well put in a micro 4/3 sensor with pancake lens.
Brio 4K still looks to be the best. The c920 is holding up well but it would have been nice to see this against the c922 and brio 4k
Hey man i have this webcam and im looking for a longer cable. Any ones you suggest? Can you link me one?
Can this camera be connected via HDMI? this camera has a USB-C output, but there are devices to which you need to connect the camera via HDMI ... Can you use an adapter then?
Now that the price has dropped and the firmware has been updated, what do you think? It was between this and the Elgato Facecam and I went with Razer, since all my hardware is already RGB synced with Synapse. The microphones are a plus but I probably wont use them.
Wait a min, are those ads at the start?
The video quality was easily the best, but the AF was unusable on the Kiyo examples. I’d be miffed if I spent that much on a webcam only to have to meddle with the manual focus on a regular basis.
Watching this in 2022, happy I got it for $100 👌🏻
the razer kiyo pro seems to hunt for focus quite a bit. Is there a way to turn off the autofocus?
Could you imagine buying any camera with a bunch of auto features which is completely normal but then being told to make it work you have to use it manually? Could you imagine buying a brand new Samsung Galaxy S21 ultra but then only be able to take manual photos? Lol.
does it have a zoom feature for close ups
👍
Good video, but not convinced by by the Kiyo pro, yes image quality is better than those it was compared to. However, it suffer from what most webcams suffer from skin tones are poorly reproduced and looks like beautify has been applied from a first generation selfie camera implementation of the feature. It is probably just low clarity but it is very annoying.
Nope, never buying another Kiyo again! I had two of the original Kiyo, both broke after a year. Both had major build defects in the hinge design where the plastic area around the hinge broke, and the LED light on one started flickering after about a year of use. I now use Logitech C922 and I’ve been very satisfied ever since.
I wonder if the hdr works in OBS.
Is there a way to mirro or flip the output video horizontally?
the autofocus issue is a dealbreaker tbh
This or Avermedia PW513 and why?
What is your speaker? Thanks
What is the best camera in this class that works on MacBook Pro? They state that this one requires Windows for full support 🥺🤬
Damn Razer
Those auto-focus jitters are so annoying. I had similar problems with Logitech C920 but the BRIO seems to fix that.
Its a shame Razer did not sort out there RAZER STARGAZER, a lot of us got ripped off with that cam, IT NEVER WORKED.
Damn better products always come right after you buy one or previous model lol 😂 got the c920 with security cover eh it’s ok When u see the comparison c920 isn’t bad at all
My kiyo pro freezes when I get out of my chair. Any known fixes?
Alright so I’m having some issues with mine. I plug it up but it’s not showing in synapses. But when I activate obs to record or stream the camera does work. I just can’t adjust some settings on it since it requires synapse.
@jarvo_1843
3 жыл бұрын
What device r u on? Synapse only works on pc not Mac or anything else. Just pc
I picked this cam up today for $40. Let’s test it out and see how it does
microphone actually sounds pretty good, autofocus is just abysmal though and for that alone i wouldnt even consider it
"Key - yo"
At this price it should be possible to put on an uv-filter.....
How the heck can you actually record directly to my windows pc????? I found the built in camera app-it does record, but not at 60fps, and cannot find the customize video on synapse anywhere now....
I setup my device today, it lasted 45 minutes before the manual and auto focus stopped working, so know ability to focus at all, from research this seems to be a known issue, Razor recently issued a firmware update for focus issues, that's been pulled due to it bricking the device. Razor support wanted me to collect logs before sending me a firmware update, that's not unexpected but it's not worth the effort and inconvenience, I've returned my day old device and requested a refund.
Tha auto focus is a little annoying, but the overall image is better than the Logitech camera.
@jarvo_1843
3 жыл бұрын
Could u just use manual focus?
This is the first time I see a camera that will stop working after 7-8 months
Can u green screen with the Kiyo Pro?
@sonicwingnut
3 жыл бұрын
You can green screen with any camera, it's normally done in software.
Can you turn off the auto focus
I got this cam... using it with obs studios, on a hp pavilion Tg01-0023w and a Geforce GTX 1650 super GPU and I still cant get it to look as nice as everyone else's 🤔😫
@Khuynh102095
2 жыл бұрын
Try adding a ring light behind the webcam. I heard it helps
I’ll stick to Elgato’s EpocCam
Where can I buy it? UK... ? Google shows nothing... lol
@NotHimJim
3 жыл бұрын
Oh nope... autofocus
I cant see a dslr killer, image quality seems pretty much close. But kinda expensive
Video quality is good, mic audio is ok, autofocus is terrible, software has nice customization and i like the variation of different angle you can change manually but $200 price tag... 😁no thanks. Calling it a dslr killer is overrated
lol $200 I will buy some DSLR camera and put it with a cam link at least I will have 2 in one with the freedom of changing the lens and for far away better image quality. for the test I see that the avermedia pw313 is better than all of them for quality vs budget.
@kolbygomes1990
3 жыл бұрын
The cam link alone is what $100? Then go and find a dslr for $100 that will allow you to use a cam link with it and not turn off or overheat after 30 min. When you do let me know because that's when I'll see pigs flying
That focus hunting is insanely bad from Razer’s “Pro” here. Logitech’s years-old Brio (untested here) still seems superior with 1080p@60 and for a similar price, you get Windows Hello, too.
@alemora420
3 жыл бұрын
If you don't like it, you have the manual focus, the Brio doesn't have HDR support and has a worse color representation, it's a very good camera, don't try to discredit it.
@ikjadoon
3 жыл бұрын
@@alemora420We’d need to see a bead-to-head, but I imagine the Brio will walk away with it. To me, the Kiyo Pro is DOA because of focus failures. Razer never fixed focus issues on the Kiyo, so I’m not wasting my money on an alpha product. Better sensors can get you better dynamic range without halving your frame rate (!). Razer’s choice here make their product discredit itself, unfortunately. 🤷
It would be cool if it somehow works with iPads.
@dial2616
3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, because the professional market is just clamoring for better webcam support. If you want peripherals to work, buy a real computer.
@ripp3rjak934
3 жыл бұрын
@@dial2616 take it easy. I was just saying. If it works for iPad that's a bonus. Some folks don't have the luxury to buy computer when and if an iPad is all they need.
@dial2616
3 жыл бұрын
@@ripp3rjak934 I do 90% of my dev work on an $80 Thinkpad, if that's not affordable then I don't know what is.
@ripp3rjak934
3 жыл бұрын
@@dial2616 well there we go don’t see the harm is having mic support for ipad
So, how would a Linux user set the camera's mode?
@Blacksadify
3 жыл бұрын
Kind of like: 4930-8-257839201-4839021-8349238593428935789302178230597238.
@basshead.
3 жыл бұрын
Stop torturing yourself and get Win10.
@CathyInBlue
3 жыл бұрын
@@basshead. Running Windows. Now THAT would be torture.
@CathyInBlue
3 жыл бұрын
@@Blacksadify Are you having a seizure? Should I call the paramedics?
@basshead.
3 жыл бұрын
@@CathyInBlue Nope, Windows is freedom. Windows is like a Swiss Army knife, it can run everything.
how do i stop this webcam from drawing power even when not in use? i haven't seen any info on the net on how to like just keep on a possible power saving mode when not actually being used at all the only obvious solution is to unplug it from the USB port when you don't need to use it and then rreconnect back to whichever USB port is free which obviously means me just getting, moving up a bit closer to my 7000D case and then doing a bend over just whenever i need to turn the webcam on or off and the joke is on use with that light indicator to know if the webcam is on or off cause if the the light is off, it still draws power no matter what they say.. less you were to turn off your desktop or laptop completely AND NOTHING!! WE BELONG TO RAZER NOW.. EVEN IF WE BELONG TO NOBODY..
Just get an old Canon T3i with a 50mm 1.8f and will bit any webcam.
so when i use it as a camera and not a webcam ... hmmmmm
now i can show my pipi in hdr and 4k :O Waaaaaaau
DSLR killer ? It's not even simple smartfon camera killer :)
Will this work plugged into an Xbox Series X?
@RaaghavKulshreshtha
3 жыл бұрын
No
@dial2616
3 жыл бұрын
Not with a PFP like that, lmao.
I hate to be that guy but the "Cuh-yowh" is killing me. It literally is the letter 'i". It's like pronouncing the Razer Kishi as "Cuh-shee". The Japanese have no long vowel sounds and no schwa, so it will always be short sounds. "kee-yoh'". That's it.
I just invested on this and it doesn’t work on the Xbox series X. Ls!
Nice Camera, but the price.. For half the price: yes, nut at the current price: hell no!