King Viserys defends Rhaenyra as his heir after Jason Lannister proposes to marry her
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i love when viserys is a savage😂 he’s so well spoken
@wesleygraham5285
Жыл бұрын
But he’s weak
@neithertwosturrr3016
Жыл бұрын
Too bad he was a liar even in sound mind and health. He played everyone in that room and only regretted it when he realized death was at his doorstep.
@jaddal2215
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, then he turned out looking like Gollum and wasn't even worthy as a King 👑
@mrscaryfox3955
Жыл бұрын
@@wesleygraham5285haters
@gaiusx287
Жыл бұрын
@@wesleygraham5285 I don't know about him being weak. That's just something Daemon said, but Daemons not exactly trustworthy, and even he changed his mind and respected his brother in the end
He really should've responded with "Gold Dragons"
@anantgore3861
Жыл бұрын
That probably would’ve done it😂
@JL1009
Жыл бұрын
House Velaryon had more money tho
@rohanshende4338
Жыл бұрын
@@JL1009 but a gay son
@ron072684
Жыл бұрын
@@rohanshende4338 but they were blind to that part
@fauzanabdulkahfi957
Жыл бұрын
@@JL1009 since when lannister shit gold
I love how Viserys always smiles when he is berating someone.
@AnnaJo2000
11 күн бұрын
Well, Viserys is described as jovial in the books. 😉😁
If only he showed this determination toward his second wife and her sons, non of the blood shed that followed would have happened. He should have crowned her Queen while he was alive.
@angelbass5175
Жыл бұрын
He can’t crown her is he’s alive thats not how it works that’s what rhaenyra crowning was for. To make sure everyone swore to her, he shouldn’t have taken a selfish self absorbed second wife. Had he thought with his head and not his cock a lot of issues would have been avoided.
@immattyice7669
Жыл бұрын
Then there wouldn’t be a tv show
@casdpasd3032
Жыл бұрын
Why would he crown alicent queen? Rhaenys wasnt even a top vote yrs prior. Why in the world would a non targaryen woman become the 1st queen? When theres literally a hundred better claims to the throne lol
@arielle6051
Жыл бұрын
@@casdpasd3032 They were talking about Rhaenyra, not Alicent nor Rhaenys
@greenforce68
Жыл бұрын
if they crowned Rhaenyra while the king is still alive, what should they called Viserys then?
You can really see the quiver of fear only a relative of Lancel Lannister could have here haha
@Exorcist364xs
Жыл бұрын
Haha Lancel! I loved how Tyrion put the fear in him! The oh god please no! Don’t tell Jaime! He looked ready to vomit hahaha!
@sauce6746
Жыл бұрын
@@Exorcist364xsI dont remember a Lancel
@PrinceDaemonTargaryen
Жыл бұрын
@@sauce6746 season 1
@sauce6746
Жыл бұрын
@@PrinceDaemonTargaryen Cupbearer right?
@jaimeanita5501
Жыл бұрын
Lancel was the cup bearer for Robert that was smashing Cersei and ended up in the sparrow cult
He’s a very complex character. Marrying Alicent was a moment of him being a bad father, he must have known marrying his daughter’s best friend would have put a thorn in their friendship.
@levia9349
Жыл бұрын
He was also bad father because he spoiled and cuddled Rhaenyra there has to be a balance and some tough love
@notsure1350
Жыл бұрын
Alicent was the pawn that became queen.
@stranger1629
Жыл бұрын
he was a shitty father ngl, he neglected his sons and pampered his daughter to oblivion never ever punishing her for her stupid behaviors
@thajo5123
Жыл бұрын
@ZionXs this is supposed to be the “real” version of history according to GRRM, the books are written by in-world historians who get things wrong and it’s hard to imagine two people who were once inseparable become each other’s most hated enemies
@TheStraightestWhitest
11 ай бұрын
Alicent was hot though.
People say Viserys was a bad king, but him being able to defeat people verbally in this manner is what made him a powerful man at court
@jt7638
10 ай бұрын
He is just saying, rudely, to one of the most powerful men in Westeros, "The king's word is law. By my say so, by my will, because I am the leader, because of fuhrerprincip," like an idiot who ignores THOUSANDS OF YEARS of precedent and tradition.
@user-ti5cw1ug6l
8 ай бұрын
But it's not by any of his wit but simply his power as the king. One can't just tell the king that he's a fool.
@erickchristensen746
25 күн бұрын
@@jt7638 Change to less than ideal “tradition” has to start somewhere.
@OceanHedgehog
8 күн бұрын
Yeah, Viserys wasn’t exactly a weak king - he was just a king who prioritized peace so he avoided upsetting people unless necessary. But he had no problem with actually bringing for the hammer then necessary
I honestly love his conviction to keeping her as his heir. He doesn't care for gender simply his own words and convictions along with choosing the best ruler
Paddy was utterly perfect in this role! Vastly under-rated actor!
He is such a good actor…
God I loved Viserys so much.
@BlancaEstella4837
Жыл бұрын
Me too 😍😍
@redroseproductions4688
Жыл бұрын
Definitely one of my favourite characters
I love how much Viserys just plain hates this dude 😂
Imagine how this exchange would go down if it were Tywin instead of Jason
@SantomPh
Жыл бұрын
Tywin has a record of failure with wedding proposals. He failed at matching Cersei with Rheagar and angrily suggested Tyrion for Elia Martell, then had to make do with Jaime entering the Kingsguard.
@debamlyabanerjee4067
Жыл бұрын
@@SantomPh that time it was mad king this time is a weak king
@naveenlata2103
Жыл бұрын
@@debamlyabanerjee4067idk man viserys seems just as adamant and has little to gain from the lannisters unlike the mad king
@debamlyabanerjee4067
Жыл бұрын
@@naveenlata2103 are you indian 🇮🇳
@naveenlata2103
Жыл бұрын
@@debamlyabanerjee4067 yep lol
This guy thinks being his wife would be compensation for losing the throne. 🤣🤣
@virtualmedusa
Жыл бұрын
What an ego! He's bringing "strength" to the kingdom! LOL! 🤣
Have y'all ever imagine if Viserys tested his children one by one with the same question he asked to Rhaenyra and Daemon? "what do you see when you look at the dragon?" Bcs Daemon definitely failed the test (it supposed to be on EP1). I personally think Aegon wouldn't give him a good answer bcs he never wanted the throne. Aemond would get the answer better than Aegon but near to Daemon. Helaena would probably have the answer better (near to Rhaenyra) but Viserys knows better, Helaena wasn't made to rule. So I think Viserys was right, Rhaenyra is the best fit here
@in_jail_out_soon1237
Жыл бұрын
Idk I am team black but honestly she has made some pretty freaking questionable decisions
@in_jail_out_soon1237
Жыл бұрын
I agree that she is the rightful heir but at the same time I don’t know if she would make the best ruler
@greenforce68
Жыл бұрын
@@in_jail_out_soon1237 not the best ruler but the best amongst them. personally I think Corlys and Rhaenys would be the best ruler here. and tbh, Laena would be better than Rhaenyra. but that'd mean the throne would be pass to Velaryon. so the best choice amongst them is Rhaenyra. I know money would be her downfall, it's foreshadowed on EP4 & 6 bcs Viserys never teach her abt the value of gold.
@levia9349
Жыл бұрын
Rhaenyra was not fit to rule neither was she made to rule
@greenforce68
Жыл бұрын
@@levia9349 I believe she's a better ruler if the Greens let her sit quietly. She's a better person before the Greens drama and I do think she'd make a fine Queen. Not the best, but fine. I won't try to revisit debate abt her in the book bcs I am a writer and it's pretty clear where the book wants you to cheer on. There's literally SO MUCH to be questioned in the book. I think people (who read the book) and chose to be neutral, like Shireen Baratheon, (at least) is a wise person than people who roots for each sides. Personally after I watched the show, I'm drawn to the Blacks bcs the show answered the question I had. When I read the book, I keep thinking "Viserys steadfastly upheld Rhaenyra's claim doesn't seems like him AT ALL. He ALWAYS asks his council abt every little thing" So Viserys never wanted to revisit debates abt Rhaenyra's claim and firing Otto for questioning 'The Small Council 101' decision should've been something suspicious abt his character. The show gives me answer (the song of ice and fire). And Rhaenyra's early decision for having bstrds with Harwin (someone he trust), marrying the worst criminal in westeros, keep holding back her action, etc. is suddenly make sense to me
That Lannister has come along way since Michael Myers beat the shit out of him in Halloween 2018
@moonwalker98787
Жыл бұрын
THATS HOW I KNOW HIS FACE. THANK YOUUUUUUU
@fearlycanz8517
Жыл бұрын
@@moonwalker98787 You're welcome
@virtualmedusa
Жыл бұрын
😹😹😹
@Purenonthing
Жыл бұрын
Lol I remember him from Vikings
@dbenn12
Жыл бұрын
Ahh yes Sir Micheal the tall, monster of a man. Wielded a valyrian steel machete
We stan papa Viserys standing up for his daughter.
@debamlyabanerjee4067
Жыл бұрын
His characterless daughter who gave birth to bastards
This man needs an Emmy ASAP
Tywin lannister if he saw this:and here I thought my father was the only one pathetic in our family.
I loved Daddy always having his daughters back! 💕👸
@johnjones4387
Жыл бұрын
Too bad he cares little for his other children
Lannisters have their own sound whenever they speak.
This really is what they mean when they talk about when you "assume"...
if only he could pass his seat without dying all of the fighting could have been avoided. Westeros needs to introduce voluntary retirement to their posts.
@904TallerTim
Жыл бұрын
He could have but for whatever reason (show would end) he didn't.
@SantomPh
Жыл бұрын
a monarch doesn't normally retire. They haven't done so in the real world until the 20th century, even then there were a lot of problems (Edward VIII). Declaring Rheanyra queen while he was still alive would only start the civil war earlier, or threaten her power due to others stirring up rebellion in his name. He could take the black, but that is a horrible fate for a Targaryen.
@mrscaryfox3955
Жыл бұрын
@@SantomPhI disagree they would all have been named both oath breakers and rebels in a time of peace/no tension
People forget that when Aemonds had his eye taken (he was probably 10 at the time with Aegon being sixteen or fourteen) Viserys already showed signs of senility. His state was only worsened by the constant use of poppy milk that i am sure make him go by withdrawls that worsened his health (when Lyonel Strong was hand Viserys was still very much clear of mind, but then Otto came back...) He loved baby Aegon, he loved all his kids, but he had more time to bond with Rhaenyra.
I paused it on 'We have f***ing dragons' and his face did not disappoint 😂👌
Didn't know serr Hugh of Vale will be relived as a Lannister aftet getting killed by mountain with wooden Lance.
The Dragon makes the Lion speechless and cuaght in traps he did not see coming. No doubt damning the words spoken form a Hightower who plays a Game... The Game of Thrones was never meant for a Dragon who forgets that many will always seek the throne of Iron.
He was a good king and a great father even until the end ✨ 👑 hail *KING VISERYS*
Damn, never realized how cool looking the chair Viserys sits on. The badass Targaryen chair! 😂
He named her heir but caused her death by telling Alicent something when he was high and dying
@debamlyabanerjee4067
Жыл бұрын
He should never named her heir
@Piotr12396
Жыл бұрын
@@debamlyabanerjee4067 i love rhaenyra but i agree with you , if he wouldn't have made rhaenyra his heir Targaryen Dynasty would have never fall apart He should have known that small minded people will never accept rhaenyra Only he is responsible for her tragic death
@saptarshisengupta8235
Жыл бұрын
@@Piotr12396 Do you think Otto would not have conspired to have Rhaenyra and Daemon killed if Aegon was named heir?? 😂 And that would have sparked the dance of dragons all over again. 😂
@chupirusi
11 ай бұрын
@@debamlyabanerjee4067true, especially when he never trained her to be Queen. Ottomans had a solution for this which was to discourage having more than one kid with a wife, so that the mothers don’t have to grieve their sons killing each other
@debamlyabanerjee4067
11 ай бұрын
@@chupirusi but one son is needed and if that one child died then kingdom will die with him
back peddling and p popping out of trouble! 😁
Viserys literally was the best character in this show. Damn
He made so fucling clear his intentions. These rebels have no excuse
@randomcenturion7264
Жыл бұрын
Well they do have one: Viserys can name whoever he wants but the law states male line take precedence. It was by that very rule that he was crowned and Reanys wasn't. They can just write it off as, "The poor, mind-addled king spouting nonsense." Which is kinda what The Greens went with.
@Athena908
Жыл бұрын
@@randomcenturion7264 He’s the king, his word is law, point blank. The show beats you over the head with that point multiple times.
@randomcenturion7264
Жыл бұрын
@@Athena908 Thing is, everyone still has PTSD from Maegor doing what he pleased with impunity. Whether they like it or not, this was the beginning of the Targs having to accept even their power has rules and limitations.
@debamlyabanerjee4067
Жыл бұрын
@@Athena908 if kings word is law then mad king is right according to you. Robert also named Joffrey as his heir king can't change every law
@LEGOC-3PO
Жыл бұрын
@@debamlyabanerjee4067 Joffrey isn’t descended from Baratheon blood. Rheanyra IS descended from Targaryen blood. Had Robert known that his “Heir” was not sired by him, he wouldn’t let Joff become king. Cersei and Ned kept their mouths shut in fear of Roberts wrath.
"I did not name Rhaenyra as my heir on a whim" you ABSOLUTELY did lol
@prisoner__24601
Жыл бұрын
As true as that is, he couldn't openly admit that without causing more doubt on Rhaenyra. He needed to make sure people thought he had chosen her without a second thought. Of course, people will still doubt her simply because she's a woman, but her father backing her rule so openly would at least hush the whispers to some degree.
@randomcenturion7264
Жыл бұрын
Damn right. Viserys, lie to the Lannister all you want, but don't lie to yourself.
@randomcenturion7264
Жыл бұрын
@@prisoner__24601 To be fair, it's more than her being a woman. Visery's own ascension to the throne was by the logic that the male line takes precedence. And so, what now the current king can ignore the law because it suits him? When has the ever ended well?
@Dino-god69
Жыл бұрын
@@randomcenturion7264 thats just it though its not law its tradition.
@stephenkenney8290
Жыл бұрын
@@Dino-god69 Norms and traditions aren't easily overcome, and the Great Council reinforced them quite powerfully.
That Lannister speaks like Lord Farquaad in Shrek. Lol
After the dance of the dragons, basically every generation of Targaryens were facing some kind of major problems, dorniah wars, blackcurrant rebellions, five of them, and the whole doom of aegon at sumerhall, mad kings and roberts rebellion until they lost all power
@debamlyabanerjee4067
Жыл бұрын
if he just named his son as heir all of this could have avoid
@mrscaryfox3955
Жыл бұрын
@@debamlyabanerjee4067naw he would been a early cruel Robert
You are a real dragon if you roast people like Viserys I
Too smooth Lanister. Way too smooth
Love the subtitles
Little do we know he’s going to be a great hand to Aegon lll 😊
@janeathome6643
Жыл бұрын
That's Tyland.
They say Viserys is weak. The man cannot be shaken 🤣🤣
Viserys may be a soft spoken man but he’s still a dragon
I understand that a lot of people see this as Viserys standing up for Rhaenyra but he really isn’t. Viserys in this scene was a drunken ill man that finds himself unworthy to be a king. He believes that he is weak and therefore he thinks that everybody else finds him weak. This is what causes him to keep Rhaenyra as his heir, because going back on his designation of an heir is a sign of weakness for him. If Viserys didn’t think so little of himself, he wouldn’t have kept Rhaenyra as his heir and the following civil war would never have happened.
Imagine instead of him we got another Tywin 😂😂
He knew that changing up the succession too much would cause chaos and destabilization. So he stuck by what he said. They had already changed the succession once.
Jason was lucky that Tywin wasn’t around yet, he would have had Jamie beat the living piss out of him for this absolute fail 😂
i thought Viserys was taking with Thor 😂😂
Bruh.. The wordplay in this scene 😂😂.
Sad thing is, he DID decide to name her his heir on a "Whim." She is woefully unprepared for this and having such obvious bastard children and spitting in the face of centuries of tradition just made it even worse for her.
How much would have been spared if viserys would have publicly said "aegon is never going be my heir ".
@rayh.8456
Жыл бұрын
He didn't want to say that in case Rhaenyra died or abdicated from the throne. If he has deemed his children unfit to rule, Daemon would be in the running again. It wouldn't matter how many times he said it, though. People still saw Viserys as touched in the head for naming her heir and continuing to defend her (especially her obviously illegitimate children). The same people that have turned against Rhaenyra in the show would have done so either way. Now if Viserys had done a better job being a husband to Alicent and a father to their children, things would have been a lot different.
@contessa8817
Жыл бұрын
Why would he need to? Rhaenyra is already named heir. And the fact that it never changed even though he has sons from alicent.
@geminiprincess20able
Жыл бұрын
@@contessa8817 the only reason to do it is to stop Otto from usurping the throne or rather stop otto's supporters
@pg1448
Жыл бұрын
Nothing but much would have been spared if Viserys had publically said "Aegon is my heir"
@jyotirani8187
Ай бұрын
Or rather say Aegon will be my heir to appease the small folks and their tradition.
Viserys was quite handsome in HOD
I don't recall reading anything in lore that said Jason Lannister was a frightful hare and egotist. I know, nothing is known of him and there's the artistic liberty and driving the plot etc. but I just find it regrettable that they often have to make a very wealthy character a pompous fop if nothing canon is known of them, as if opulance is a given disposition. I just hope Tyland, whom we do know is a certafied hardcore man in lore far more like Tywin, isn't misrepresented. So far he doesn't seem his book self.
After all of their posturing of strength, when two decades basically all the dragons were dead and four generations later they facing blackcurrant rebellions
@randomcenturion7264
Жыл бұрын
Pride came before the fall. Targs always believed they were "So much more" than normal people. Then reality hit them like a freight train with nitro-boosters strapped to it
When it came to daughter, Viserys doesn't f..k around!
Imagine if tywin got in that situation. 😅
See this is why naming Rhaenyra was stupid, as soon as he had a son everyone FAIRLY assumed the boy would be named heir because sons succeed fathers and that’s how it’s always been. Even without the hightowers scheming and Rhaenyra being a stupid slut there would still be a war, all it would take is one ambitious lord convincing Aegon to push his claim as rightful heir and there would be a war because no medieval lord would want a female ruler.
And some people think the Green's only took what was rightfully theirs. No. Visery's told them all TWICE who the next Queen would be.
He should have made Damon his true heir! Damon would have taken out the Greens immediately and there you go no war!
Certainly helps explain Roberts Rebellion!😱
When you tell your girlfriend daddy the WRONG word to describe your love for her daughter 😂😂😂😂
And then he proceeds to stir rebellion 😂
Too bad his stubborn refusal to do the smart thing led to the destruction of the dragons in Westeros, the death of all of his children, and most of his grandchildren. :(
A dumb proposal 😂
@SantomPh
Жыл бұрын
Viserys put it bluntly- do you have dragons bro? The Velaryons do.
This guy maybe the best king westeros ever had. He keeps his cool while putting all the other lords in their place.
Viserys: *drink wine and ignoring Lannister* Man, this wine is good!
Honestly I’m surprised Viserys didn’t kill Lannister and Lord High Tower during this hunt.
@levia9349
Жыл бұрын
He's level headed person
The irony is that his negligence inevitably caused the dance 😂 so yea vissy T
One of the few times he was actually firm and threatening
This was awesome
I always wonder why old valerya didn't conqueror the Rock as it had so much gold and would have been world famous for it
Im sure this guy has played 3 different characters between GOT and HOTD.
To me this just shows how manipulative the greens are they wore him down. Make yourself the emperor make her the queen and then when you die she can be the queen
Viserys is a peaceful king until u try and harm his daughter
Tywin Lannister would be enraged to see his ancestor be so stupid and humiliating.
How do people make these video edits what software do they use?
This is side daemon wanted to bring out constantly. The dragon
He shouldn’t have remarried. He screwed over Rae bag time
@SantomPh
Жыл бұрын
he needed more children especially sons. The Targaryen line almost went extinct due to Maegor and the various rebellions he oor Jaeherys was the cause of.
He pronounced aegon wrong
Jason.. his names Jason. 😂
All the lords of the kingdom did not in fact remember that
@nilw1997
Жыл бұрын
the honourable ones did, only the greedy ones didn't
Viserys the best king.... so sad that his daughter and brother wasnt around in his later years.....
The dragon has a flame to protect his children
Him naming her is heir brought the end of his family and house
What did the mad king say to a Lannister about marriage
@derekclinton9438
Жыл бұрын
"You are my most able servant Tywin, but a king does not marry his son to his servant's daughter."
why did you add upbeat stock music to this
I don’t remember this scene!!!! Which episode was this?! ❤
I like how he clarifies this isn't just a rash decision made on a whim. He genuinely believes her to be worthy of the crown. When he refers to strength he's referring to her.
Probably should have taken the offer. At least then they wouldn't have to worry about money.
His stubbornness would bring on a civil war that killed thousands
y is viserys, who is supposed to have been a rather inept king at best, shown to be such a smart fellow? this is the dude that spent his reign partying.
Even still, that very night he shared his own doubts. Sewing more seeds of mistrust in Alicent.
Here is one Lannister who shit gold in the presences of Viserys Targaryen!
I love when Viserys says "and when will I be doing that?". Almost saying "I'm giving you a chance to rethink the amount bullshit you're spewing out of your mouth right now" lol
Unwise decision by Viserys, the Targaryens, although royals for hundreds of years, still a guest in the seven kingdoms. The seven kingdoms tradition has always been sons first, daughters later. In crusader kings 2 terms, succession law is primogeniture-agnatic, you can't just go cognatic or seniority on a whim, man, you would lose your vassal opinions.
@nilw1997
Жыл бұрын
not true, North had a bunch of Queens and in Dorn, people never cared about the gender of the firstborn child, they had many Queens, it's only the tradition of Andals and Targaryens known for having their own way of living
Worked out splendidly, announcing her as heir, didn't it...
But he indeed made his decision based on a Whim🤣
John 13:34 A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another
When a Dragon incinerates a Lion 🐲🔥🦁
He should be asking for the son's hand instead lol