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@richardsmith1427

10 ай бұрын

aarRSwr

@user-nf7ui7dz1z

10 ай бұрын

Leave it to 48HRS to blame the app right in the title of the episode even. Disgusting, per usual from the mislead at 48hrs. It was the gun, not the person firing the gun, attack the gun. It was the app, access to the app, the creator of the "disgusting app", but never actually blame the killers who did the killing, nope, protect them at all costs. I see through it 48hrs, others do to, trust me, look at Bud Light after they targeted children and your networks lied about the reason saying it was homophobic nonsense when people just didn't want Budweiser targeting children and yet, still no apology. More clarity? Dylan (the supposed transvestite) was given Budweiser specially marked cans and Dylan put those on Dylan's channel and this channels primary audience is children. Then Budweiser had Dylan make a commercial and this appeared on the channel, then the uproar, then the loss of like $30B from Bud and still it isn't enough to get them to own it so it must continue. You are playing the same games. Play stupid games win stupid prizes right? C'mon, just be normal. No one likes that stuff except the extremely brainwashed and there really aren't that many and I'm in a heavily "Blue" and large city.

@stephaniemetzler6760

10 ай бұрын

​@richardsmith1427 😊😢😅🎉😂😂😊😮

@lucycarola

10 ай бұрын

Many other apps, have moderators. It can happen w any app, BUT, apps like kick or Snapchat have been studied in terms of attracting certain ‘unsafe’ audiences. Like FB is for older folks, and Insta for younger ones (originally its target market was photographers), etc. So, YES, it SHOULD definitely hold ‘big-pockets’ accountable. It’s like the “Backpage” website case. “I am Jane Doe” was an eye opener for me.

@user-ue1yw8th9b

10 ай бұрын

😊

I get really tired of the whole "How could two intelligent college kids do this" or "How could a young, smart athletic man this" .... Sociopaths, predators, killers, etc. can be, and probably usually are, goal-oriented and educated people. We need to stop pretending that evil comes only in those who are not privileged enough to be highly educated.

@rebella2073

10 ай бұрын

Exactly 💯🖌 yin-yang ☯

@crimsonandcloveroverandover1

10 ай бұрын

Old fashioned belief that people have

@luvsupreme

10 ай бұрын

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

@jeremerathermel2405

10 ай бұрын

The more intelligent you are the more likely you are to be a psychopath

@crimsonandcloveroverandover1

10 ай бұрын

Its the same idea as a person believing someone is a good person just because they wear khaki pants and have a job . An old fashioned person would say "but how can he be doing drugs ...he has a job and dresses conservative .. I'm not saying that someone is a bad person just becuz they do drugs .but I'm talking about the ones who ARE

I’m also autistic and autism is ABSOLUTELY NOT an excuse for raping a child. Autism doesn’t remove your ability to understand how wrong that is.

@injacreatives9680

10 ай бұрын

A disgusting abuse of the autistic meaning, he's a common garden variety sociopath rapist! I am autistic too, and autistic person will stand against him abusing this term to escape the consequences of his actions.

@beccahday

10 ай бұрын

absolutely not, but it's just a consideration for lessened responsibility in some states due to the fact that autism is a developmental disorder and closely associated with empathic deficits. you know it's a spectrum, and there is an infinitude of possibilities for how the symptoms will manifest, and to what intensity, for each individual.

@kentuky1233

10 ай бұрын

Everyone is autistic on the internet nowadays. Also everyone seems to have ADHD and there are more PTSD cases than after ww2.

@liamfun1000

10 ай бұрын

but being a democrat does

@Thakid_Kaz

10 ай бұрын

@@kentuky1233most ignorant comment

I grew up next to David, he lived in my neighborhood for a few years. He showed signs even as a kid of something seriously wrong with him. He was aggressive and abusive preying on anyone smaller than him, a total bully and freak. I tried to warn his dad after an incident where he tried to attack me with a shovel. His dad said word for word “I don’t see my son doing that kind of thing”… David I hope you Rot.

@TeaSpiracy

10 ай бұрын

Wow that's crazy. What was his logic for coming at you with a shovel? Do you know?

@detentions

10 ай бұрын

@@TeaSpiracy man I couldn’t tell you for sure, but I think simply because he wanted to. He enjoyed inflicting pain and seeing the reaction.

@newsystem420

10 ай бұрын

This needs more likes most definitely👍

@kamivenus753

10 ай бұрын

Damn

@leanbacksfinest

9 ай бұрын

Everyone of us have a psycho like this in the circle of growing!

"She left out the window... with her favorite blue cartoon blanket" she was just a sweet baby angel!!!!😭😭😭😭😭

@queenjolie

10 ай бұрын

To young for social media 😢

@janpierzchala2004

3 ай бұрын

naughty and ...

@Douglas_Hamilton

3 ай бұрын

@@queenjolie*Too

@Ais-eb9bk

2 ай бұрын

Sweet?? Sneaking out the window is not a sweet innocent child.

@Babybu_69

Ай бұрын

@@Ais-eb9bkoh shut up a acting like you never did anything wrong as a kid!

That father setting up a trap with his buddies is F'ing amazing. We need more of those people in this world

@miapdx503

10 ай бұрын

Yes, we have to do what the police cannot or will not do.

@emnem1212

10 ай бұрын

@@miapdx503agreed!!

@damwaterthomas7639

9 ай бұрын

I agree with you and police can't do much for those who do terrible actions towards anyone nowadays.

@eileenferris9619

9 ай бұрын

Agreed

@eileenferris9619

9 ай бұрын

Yes basically I agree with all of you and my name is Emma

That father has some damn good friends!! They were willing to risk everything to stand up for their friend’s daughter.

@miapdx503

10 ай бұрын

True heroes. The mom, talking to her daughter's predator...just, wow.

@bertasanchez9325

10 ай бұрын

So true. Most people don't want to get involved.

@JeroenBIG

3 ай бұрын

Bull, it was a regular love affair

@andreaberryhill6654

3 ай бұрын

I know... I LOVE how they handled the situation. This is how parents & friends used to be regularly: watching out & protecting each other.

@mariamal465

3 ай бұрын

We all need friends like this, ready to back you up no matter what

Its not about monitoring your children its about teaching them the truth in life's deprevities. This was heartbreaking to watch

@Kim-yy4zd

8 ай бұрын

Even then kids can fall victim .

@sevencharley

7 ай бұрын

i agree telling girls and boys early on what happens to them when they run away instead of shielding them think that’s protection.

@LadyGreyBlack

6 ай бұрын

@@sevencharley I also think parents need to make sure their kids have other outlets besides social media, especially during this young of an age. I also know it may be difficult for fathers seeing their daughters grow up at this age, too, but they need to be more present in their daughter's lives to prevent this sort of thing from happening.

@monicarenee7949

5 ай бұрын

Yeah I agree because it’s easy to sneak no matter how much a parent watches them in their home. When chat rooms were just starting up (way before social media days) I was a young pre-teen/teen and I would come across all kinds of grown men pretending to be young or even not pretending, looking for young girls. The reason I never connected with them was I had no interest beyond laughing with my friends about it. We were exposed to creeps but had a good foundation I guess.

@uzzadazza

3 ай бұрын

Werd

That girl sure didn’t look surprised, shocked or upset as she barreled through Walmart HOLDING the shovel!!! I’m glad they gave her 40 years!! She deserved LIFE!

Elizabeth's friend was very brave to tell her Mom about the 30y.o boyfriend so she could warn Elizabeth's family. That would've been a difficult thing to do at her age, and she probably saved her friend's life!

@jumpscare1530

10 ай бұрын

Yes I was very impressed with the friend clearly knowing it was a dangerous situation and confiding in her mom

@4HeimatLiebe

10 ай бұрын

Very good.

@cruisepaige

10 ай бұрын

I told a teacher about a friend in 7th grade who was visiting a 28 year old guy in her apartment complex. He acted appropriately and I may have saved her life. All I know is the guy moved away the next day.

@rhddfgdfdrgd

10 ай бұрын

Anyone can have children, but that doesn't make people parents, and if you're a parent, you know what your child is doing and talk to them about it. so where were the parents. social media can be dangerous irresponsible parenting is even more dangerous

@4HeimatLiebe

10 ай бұрын

@@rhddfgdfdrgd yes, each reflect themselves if they are protective enough

A 13 year old does not need all that freedom on her phone. Parents need to be aware of what their kids are doing online

@annazaman9657

10 ай бұрын

A 13 year old doesn't need a phone. Period. Peer pressure makes parents get it for them

@swallowedinthesea11

10 ай бұрын

I'm 24 and although I live in another city and work in construction, my Mom makes me send her my credit card statements because she doesn't want me to buy useless things and my Internet is monitored, I can't even have Netflix. I'm from a Korean family. She controls a lot of my life, unfortunately, and as the oldest I have to look after her. I have told her she's kind of interfering, but I agree that parents need to really talk to their adult and minor children about the dangers of the Internet, meeting people in person, leaving your drinks alone opening a window for someone to spike them, not honking your car horn, saying thank you when someone hodor for you, etc. Yes, there have been lives taken because the suspects didn't receive a thank you! I have a niece and I couldn't believe I acted like my Mom when I found out she had a lot of social media accounts and 'friends.' No 13 year old has 1200+ followers on Instagram and Facebook.

@SoCalJellybean

10 ай бұрын

@@swallowedinthesea11Okay, but I hope you realize that this is abusive behavior from your mother! Just because it’s “a cultural thing” doesn’t make it okay!! I hope you’re okay. ♥️

@electricmagnetic

10 ай бұрын

A grown man in college needs to know how to deal with the consequences of their actions. You're seriously blaming the victim?! Gafakyaself

@electricmagnetic

10 ай бұрын

​@@swallowedinthesea11well, that's equally unsettling

She’s crying, why? The pain he caused you??? He was definitely wrong, she should have accountability as well.

@royalgoronga9444

3 ай бұрын

just imagined. which pain did he cause her

@pixi2209

3 ай бұрын

She met him freewilling, few times, had sex with him. She planned to run with him from home, from parents.

@user-ke4dx8yq6k

3 ай бұрын

The comment I came here for like what….. 🙄

@Douglas_Hamilton

3 ай бұрын

I totally agree with you. She has a brain and is capable of making decisions and she was into it too.

@charlisays

3 ай бұрын

She's doing it because her parents are uber religious so it's easier to play that role.

Kids do NOT need social media. They can live just fine without it. As a parent you should be able to say the word "no" to things that put your child at risk. So many parents today are too lax in their parental duties, trying more to be best friends with their kids rather than their guardians.

How can kids be so cruel? Teasing someone because they have scars from surgery. It’s disgusting how awful kids can be. WTF are these parents teaching their kids??

@juliestrickland7754

10 ай бұрын

Not one damn thing. Smdh

@SatieSatie

10 ай бұрын

That's pretty common. I have a big, thick scar (+ three smaller scars) on my chest from a heart surgery when I was 10, and was insulted and made fun of for it ("You look ugly with that ugly scar" etc.) Children are cruel.

@m3g_h4n

10 ай бұрын

I have been bullied since preschool about my surgical scars, i am 25 now and STILL i’ll have adults be rude about them People are cruel

@bellakatherman1477

10 ай бұрын

@@SatieSatie that’s so awful. I’m sorry you had to deal with that.

@user-ki1ey2te7l

10 ай бұрын

Parent+school were aware of bullying and didn’t stop it!

The shocking fact that the cops wouldn’t intervene with a pedophile visiting a 15 year old makes me sick to the stomach.

@joeyoutube6113

10 ай бұрын

I think what police was saying is that the 15 years old was saying that nothing is happening and no one is coming so they took her word for it as a witness

@Dporvida

10 ай бұрын

How are you so surprised though? They do this with everything. Including domestic violence. Cops don’t do anything until the people are dead.

@pillettadoinswartsh4974

10 ай бұрын

"He hasn't raped, murdered, cut up her body, cooked it and eaten it yet. There's nothing we can do."

@marilyzu1340

10 ай бұрын

It is disgusting 🤢 but........sometimes is 50 50 because this girl was lying saying she was 18 ,she met him and she went alone with him so it is what it is I know a lots of kids run to their killers is sad but pedos and child abusers are really often In every neighborhood

@whodat7084

10 ай бұрын

@@joeyoutube6113Did the cops even look at her social media?

I love this District Attorney. Telling parents what they need to hear.......

Let us not forget a part of this horrible story too: bullying. PLEASE PARENTS RAISE YOUR KIDS WELL. It is amazing how young kids at just 10-15 years old can be so mean to other kids

@Lori-lp6uc

6 ай бұрын

It's getting out of hand 😠

@masterlightjames950

5 ай бұрын

When their adult parents support Israeli atrocities and America's genocides, what do you expect of children?

@lisahawj7694

5 ай бұрын

If the kids are a bully, the parents are worse. Good parenting doesn't allow their kids to bully another child.

@blacksilverchair3315

4 ай бұрын

Stop giving children smartphones. It is that easy.

@17thknight

2 ай бұрын

​@@lisahawj7694the worst bully in my school was raised by saints. You're trying to comfort yourself to say it couldn't possibly be your kid, but you're delusional

The parents who thought quickly and caught the predator are great, and I LOVE the dads friends who were prepared to protect the daughter as if she were their own.

@cristinaherrera5321

10 ай бұрын

I could have used that in my life. Maybe in the next...

@heathermetz3974

10 ай бұрын

This was smart active parenting.

@Appl908

10 ай бұрын

The guy with gun was lamed. If he killed him, he would be jailed for life. At that point, they killed an innocent stranger. Remembered you have to prove your point in court. If Elizabeth claimed she don’t know him. Poppa and his friends is sone for it.🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

@trash5637

10 ай бұрын

@@Appl908 who said anything about killing him? There’s online predators who meet up with minors and they’re armed, having intentions to hurt the minors. The fathers friend having a weapon, but knowing only to use it in case of emergency (ie if the predator came armed) was good thinking on his part!

@handzndirt6494

10 ай бұрын

We all need a Phil💪🏾💪🏾

There's no such thing as a relationship between a 15 year old and a 30 year old! That's just nasty!!! 🤢 And I'm tired of child molesters getting light sentences!! Just disgusting! And omg when Nicole's mom says, 'In her coffin' after she was asked about the last time she saw her daughter! That's just heartbreaking! 😞

@beewest5704

10 ай бұрын

And I have noted that 99% of serial killers have prior histories of SA especially committed against kids.

@OanhSchlesinger

10 ай бұрын

As a teenager, there is no way I would be with a 30 year old man who is obviously a perv.

@cecelia1350

10 ай бұрын

He’s disgusting and so is the judge who basically get off scott free. For a 30 year old to date an 18 year old is still perverted, technically legal but morally wrong

@miapdx503

10 ай бұрын

Too many judges are predators.

@Gonzo_-zb5mf

10 ай бұрын

@@beewest5704 Agreed also, the USA seems to be vulnerable at this point. Many fighters are also female. To address your soldiers by accepting women to parrtienemcollect thies usefulm armies them often really proud. I will try b´my best to lr it haooen.

The guy blaming his autism for statutorily raping a minor boggles my mind... I'm autistic and have never in my life slept with anyone under 18... That's disgusting.

@wotiluv

9 ай бұрын

It was so gross when he stopped to that level to paint autism as something it’s not- just horrible

@allanshpeley4284

6 ай бұрын

Personally I think sleeping with someone 18 years old is disgusting. The mind doesn't fully develop until 25 years of age. Anyone who's slept with someone under 25 needs to be jailed with the rest of the pedos.

What great friends to have. Standing by her father and ready to do anything to catch a disturbed dangerous person.

Parents need to watch this. This can happen to anyone. Show your kids how real this is! Show them shows like this!

@Kona_Blue

10 ай бұрын

No, I have several apps to watch their phone. Parents need to do better. This does happen to anyone, this girl had a messed up life

@602virginia

10 ай бұрын

⁠@@Kona_Bluecan I have a few apps to watch please. I have several daughters 3 sons.

@hikikomori_eu

10 ай бұрын

And yet, statistically, a significantly greater percentage of child abuse happens within the family unit. Apps on phones are just software . AI will solve this problem to some extent, when each child has their own AI-powered CyberAngel 😇

@hikikomori_eu

10 ай бұрын

@@602virginiano app can stop this. Good parenting can.

@mattmatt6572

10 ай бұрын

Yeah let to spend all her time on social media and still sleeps in bed with mom? Doesn't sound like good normal parenting to me.

I’m so happy that Elizabeth’s parents were so proactive they literally saved their daughters life at that time

@nicklatham6635

10 ай бұрын

Yes for sure and they were forced to take the law into their own hands!!!

@chaeparker1999

9 ай бұрын

@@nicklatham6635 you are telling nothing but the truth

@annetteb2432

9 ай бұрын

Protective? She said they thought they were being protective. They took her phone, but she did let them have her Internet connection. Protective? they had sex. I don’t know what you and the people that agree with you were watching.

@stuntedgrowthmusic

7 ай бұрын

@@annetteb2432 facts. too late for protection

@Lori-lp6uc

6 ай бұрын

So true. We're not our kid's buddies. We are their guardians. Our job is to instruct and protect them.

Why I have a problem with this girl blaming Jason for everything? She knew exactly what she was doing.

@londonbridges9739

5 ай бұрын

Right!!!!!

@catherineperez7851

5 ай бұрын

So true she knew and now she looks like the vitctim 😂

@rebeccabarnett2907

5 ай бұрын

She was absolutely NOT a victim. She lied about her age and asked for everything she got!

@abigailsanchez7722

5 ай бұрын

Oh my gosh…I was thinking the same thing and I didn’t want to get into that victim shaming. She does have to take some responsibility.

@lisahawj7694

5 ай бұрын

Agree. It's funny how she plays the victim card now. I was once a 15 yrd. I sure know wtf I'm doing is wrong or right. Some people just love to blame others.

The fact that parents blame the app instead of parenting their children is absurd.

@user-dx3oq9oh9e

7 ай бұрын

I agree with you I guarantee if the 13 year old dad payed his daughter more attention like she wanted from him she wouldn’t of went looking for it some where else we gotta stop blaming everyone else an instead start looking at the parents

@user-ex3zn5yq4r

7 ай бұрын

Agreed!!! Parents these days want to be their children’s best friends and to be liked instead of actually parenting. Every child deserves parents, but not every parent deserves children!!!!

@shawnaweesner3759

7 ай бұрын

To scf828: Your comment is unfair to the parents. Children are responsible for their behaviors, too. And so are businesses.

@MegaSmk

6 ай бұрын

@@shawnaweesner3759 right. and while we don't know if and how her parents punished her for her actions, I can tell you this: if she were my daughter, she would have been held accountable for her part in this mess. sure, he should have known better, but she contributed actively. It looks like she's not going to do anything similar again, but I'm not convinced it's for the right reasons.

@mynameiseve.1

6 ай бұрын

Absolutely. Its crazy, the mom says they didnt even check her social media ever and the dad says if it happened to our family it can happen to anyone. Those statements really bothered me!

So happy I grew up in the eighties with no pressure from this social media crap.

@JJJJ-gl2uf

10 ай бұрын

I agree. Times were simpler then, even though it's not that long ago. I despise social media and other than commenting here I don't use any of it.

@pillowbug3006

10 ай бұрын

Same here. Miss those days

@lynnalexander9674

10 ай бұрын

Even more innocent in the 70s and even more as you go back in time. Humanity's on a dark path..

@teresamarie7460

10 ай бұрын

A thirteen year old should not have a "keep out" sign on her closed door.

@juliestrickland7754

10 ай бұрын

Absolutely! And our parents were so worried about pot and men who wore makeup and played rock music. Lord, if that was my biggest worries while I raise my granddaughters.

So so SO proud of those dads for stepping up and keeping Jason away. I hope the then 15 year old daughter is now old enough to appreciate this ❤

@HobbyOrganist

9 ай бұрын

She sounded in the interview like she still prided herself that she could have secret parent-proof "chats" on Kik and that they can't monitor her.

@lauratude5132

9 ай бұрын

But also she said she knows that man hurt her beyond repair. He did manage to “sleep with her” (statutory rape) once.

@t.j.7789

2 ай бұрын

​@@lauratude5132I feel like her parents are hurting her by dwelling on it and saying he ruined her life. Her life isn't ruined. By showing her face so everyone in the world knows, won't help her let it go.

You can understand how a man can be tricked when a girl lies about her age. But the minute he learns of her real age, whether it’s through his own inquiries or she tells him the truth--THAT should be the end of the relationship, right there.

I think every family should watch this with their kids. I am so sorry for the loss of your baby girl. 💜

R.I.P Nicole. It broke my heart when she said nobody cared about her, she had her family and friends. And those that bullied her because of her scars are disgusting!! I hope her killers get KARMA in prison!!

Two intelligent college kids? Stop calling them that. Absolutely NOT. I'm so sick of bringing the "mental health" in the defense for Natalie K. All of a sudden your're mentally ill, but you knew it was wrong. And as a daughter of a schizophrenic, I have NEVER heard of a sort of schizophrenic diagnosis.

@woodrowtaylor6907

10 ай бұрын

Smart is what smart does

That was absolutely the WORST advice a friend can give. Why tf would you say "oh she's underage? ok date her, but just ignore her and she will go away". Noooooo. I swear ppl are stupid.

@JustAnAverageWoman69

9 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same thing.

I know a lot of us can relate to Nicole's experience as a kid with some small physical "imperfection", being forced to attend middle school by adults who can't imagine the level of cruelty that she faced there. I'm so, so sorry that she didn't survive that terribly hard phase of life. I wish I could have been her friend.

@Marlaina

6 ай бұрын

The government forces us to attend school. There isn't many other options unless her mother home schooled but not everyone has the means and time.

We have been warned about strangers in chat rooms since the 90s. The same parents who would prevent their preteen from going into an online chat room won't think twice about getting them a smartphone...

@spiralrose

10 ай бұрын

THANK YOU! FINALLY someone comes out and says it…

This needs to be shown in every school and home in the country.

@victoria859

10 ай бұрын

THE PROBLEM IS PARENTS USE TABLETS N PHONES AS BABYSITTERS. IN MY FAMILY MY NIECE KIDS ARE ONKY 5 n 7 n Have Cell phones n Tablets n there so addicted being on them all the time. Grrrrrrr.

@abbygalerowe6775

10 ай бұрын

I meann that does nothing u just have to teach your child about how anything can happen to u even with the ppl u trust/know

@leah-pi3yy

9 ай бұрын

homes specifically! we had internet safety talks in school and no one took it seriously because we were dumb teenagers

@capnobvious2718

3 ай бұрын

You mean like the DUII videos and live speeches from people who drank 2 cases of beer and slaughtered a half dozen of their friends when they drove 110mph directly into a 100 year old oak tree? Doesn't need to be shown, because it isn't the kids' responsibility, it is THE PARENTS. What good will it do to show this in school when parents will just shove 'em out the door with 2 dozen unsupervised mobile devices?

@kayakazi7765

2 ай бұрын

Parents are lazy

I've been saying this for years now, if you love your life and if you love your children keep yourself anf your children away from social media.

@kayakazi7765

2 ай бұрын

💯, they are making it so easy for these predators

@JULi3T16

Ай бұрын

Or besides victim blaming teaching your children that hurting & k1lling other beings is wrong, how about that?

@somanyfeelz

29 күн бұрын

Op wasn't victim blaming.

@JULi3T16

29 күн бұрын

@@somanyfeelz right they weren't, but so many ppl are, it's not a one-sided problem. Kids these days need to be properly taught how to responsibly use social media, how to communicate but it seems they also need to be taught to not k!ll & hurt vulnerable beings

@somanyfeelz

28 күн бұрын

@@JULi3T16 I agree with you.

I can't imagine losing my baby so brutally and violently!!! I lost my son to pneumonia while he was asleep. That's hard but to think that her daughter died in so much pain!!! It breaks my heart to think of all the pain this baby girl went through.

This is so sickening. Pedos should be immediately put behind bars forever.

@gordonaliasme1104

10 ай бұрын

Death sentence, fast track. No appeals to delay. Pedophile can't be reformed.

@faithsmit6839

10 ай бұрын

Death penalty imo.

@Bernz66

10 ай бұрын

They should be placed six feet under….

@madrush24

10 ай бұрын

I don't think either cases involved pedos tbh. There's actually a difference between sex offenders that involve kids and actual pedophilia. In these circumstances, it seems like they took advantage of impressionable kids vs they only have relationships with children.

@lottoo5693

10 ай бұрын

No prison something else i would love to take the job

This is why my wife and I keep tabs on my 13 year old daughter's accounts. But some of the blame is on the kids. Doing everything I can doesn't mean my daughter can't decide to sneak out the window. That's why we've got to be honest with our children about the dangers of the world. Sadly, children are over-trusting because they don't know YET😢. Unless they have been informed.

@smithamy1982

10 ай бұрын

Why let her have those accounts in the first place? 13 is literally the youngest age allowed to be on social media but that doesn't mean it's a good idea.

@inspiteofbecauseof4745

10 ай бұрын

Exactly! My kids will hate me, because no way, am I giving them phones/technology before at least age 16 and no social media until 18. I don’t even have social media. I don’t care if all of their friends have phones and most of them do.

@smithamy1982

10 ай бұрын

Not to mention there's probably secondary accounts your unaware of, considering the majority of youth who have social media do that so their parents won't see everything but think they do. I've been told this by many youth who see me as the cool mom and they'll use messaging apps that are untraceable so their parents won't see the messages they don't want them to see, as well as hiding those and photo storage apps disguised as calculators or some scholastic type app that work as what they're disguised to look as and only reveal the hidden contents with a secret code/input method. It's mind-blowing what kids can do and get away with, with a smart phone, even the one with the most parental security settings possible are still oblivious to what is really going on in the phone. Be careful cause its a scary world online when you don't really know what you're doing or who you're really talking too, especially for a 13/14yr old who believe they've fallen in love with someone their own age and it's a romeo and Juliet type relationship. Unfortunately, their actually talking to a much older pedophile who is grooming them. Can't ever be too precautious.

@stypa1717

10 ай бұрын

@@inspiteofbecauseof4745 Could not aprove more!

@sjg5994

10 ай бұрын

Absolutely some of the blame is on the kids. This child knew she was doing wrong. She snuck out of the house but barricaded the door.😒. She was being too grown.

Thrilled the woman got almost as much as the murderer. A very strong message. May they never see the light of freedom ever again.

Huge props to the parents and friends for setting that guy up and getting him arrested!!

The most insincere and disrespectful “apologies “ I have ever seen.

I can't believe with all of the pictures and communications the police say they can't do anything to help the family of the 15yr old. She says "what can you do, you have a 15yr old who is denying it"... I would say you have all of the evidence they needed. It's sad the family has to take care of the situation themselves. The girl is in Virginia Tech, an engineering student, and all of a sudden she has 7 mental illnesses

@spiralrose

10 ай бұрын

People like to confuse, personality disorders, and mental illnesses. There is no excuse for this girl.

@mimimonster

10 ай бұрын

Right? Bottom line though, if those illnesses didn’t prevent her from knowing right from wrong and didn’t affect her level of IQ then who cares…

@mariawestman9026

10 ай бұрын

Was thinking exactly the same , hahahaha 😂 7 mental disorders !!! Which corner” do they find all specialized professors 😂 ??? Ok , she is behind bars anyway but if she was able to get freedom quickly the 7 diagnosis would have made her life look like a nightmare 😂😂😂 These papers will NEVER go away. 😂

@tankthearc9875

10 ай бұрын

she lied she was 18, many of these teen girls lie and then run away

@deeannadorough7378

10 ай бұрын

Too bad Chris Hansons show to catch a predator was cancelled. The transcripts were considered evidence.

This one broke my heart. Not only murdered but bullied by the cruel children in this world who were raised by lousy parents.

I don't think shutting kik down is called for. I've always despised the whole idea of "this was used to hurt someone so get the government to shut it down." It's short sighted and tyrannical.

@allanshpeley4284

6 ай бұрын

Indeed. But it let's parents shift the blame for their bad parenting to someone else.

The fact that parents are still shocked that this kind of thing happens is crazy to me. Social media has been a major part of our lives for around 20 years, and, for just as long, underage kids have connected with predators through social media. Here’s the thing: before social media, pedophiles lured kids on instant messenger. And before that, they found their prey in person. The idea that your kid is safe anywhere without you as a parent taking steps to ensure their safety is a really irresponsible, entitled way of thinking. If you regularly drop your child off at a Starbucks unsupervised, and they are groomed over time and ultimately snatched by a frequent customer, are you going to blame Starbucks? I would hope not. Responsibility for your child’s safety does not transfer over to a location, physical or digital, and the onus isn’t on the company that runs it simply because your kid walks into their establishment or uses their website. If you are handing your kid a smartphone or giving them any access online, it is on you to monitor who they’re engaging with. Parents are not helpless against the big bad social media machine. They have to be more involved and less permissive. They need to do the hard things: limit screentime, insist on access to all logins, set automatated restrictions, and take the phone/tablet/laptop if the kid isn’t going to comply. Facebook/Kik/etc. are not your kids’ parents…you are.

@relocatetoItaly

10 ай бұрын

I agree and wouldn't let my child anywhere near a smart phone or tablet. However they will simply go over to a friend's house and use the friends phone to get on these apps. It requires everyone to ban their kids from online access. Not that realistic

@rochelleshon306

10 ай бұрын

Well said, thank you, thank you! Your comment should be a PSA.

@shopsshire9282

10 ай бұрын

​@@relocatetoItalythat you don't let your kid go over that friend's house anymore they're no longer their friend easy as pie

@tessaducek5601

10 ай бұрын

@@rochelleshon306 Agreed. 👍👍👍

@viablue8143

10 ай бұрын

I agree. While I don’t think it’s possible to completely keep your child from danger, you can take steps to protect them. Limit the possibility of them meeting predators as much as you can. And talk to your child. Tell them why you’re doing this - it’s not to be “mean”, not to take away their fun and their friends, and not because you think that they’re stupid. (Because your kid WILL think that you see them as stupid, and that they’re much smarter and can dodge the danger. Some can, most can’t. So try to make them understand that this isn’t about being smart or not.) I feel sorry for any parent that loses their child in a similar way… but usually at the ens it comes out that they didn’t really parent the child very much. That’s why the social media blaming is happening, too. People expect companies to protect their children in their stead, and that just isn’t realistic… I’m not saying this to blame the parent. They already lost far more than they deserve for making a mistake like that, there’s no need for people to point fingers at them. Just… remember these things. Remember them and learn from them, so you can keep the children in your life safe.

STOP 👏🏽 GIVING 👏🏽 YOUR 👏🏽 *_CHILDREN_* 👏🏽 IPADS 👏🏽 AND 👏🏽 PHONES 👏🏽 and they don't need an all access pass to the internet/social media! And they should never be allowed to take their phone into the bedroom at night when they should be sleeping. When will parents learn?

My heart hurts for this mom, omg, heartbreaking. I wish her happiness and peace.

Look at the parents blaming everything but the fact you're not keeping up with their online activity.

I’m So sorry for her mom :(

As a parent, I really found it surprising that these parents are putting responsibilities solely on these applications when they are not monitoring their OWN kids. Nowadays, as soon as the kid turns 3 they have a iPad in their face. You all are literally buying them access to these predators. You’re paying for the devices they use these applications online and pay for the Internet services. Then they don’t even take the time to read these guys. That apps like kik, provides them to learn more about the app. Anything to keep the kid out of your face SMDH. There are literally apps that you can use to block your key from going on certain websites or used in certain apps. You can also wait until they get to a certain age to provide them with smart phones and iPads. Maybe it’s because I’m millennial that was raised on technology but you cannot solely blame technology companies because you don’t wanna be responsible parent.

@danis4054

10 ай бұрын

When the kids get to this age, the preteens are sneaky and whining that you’re invading their privacy. Like you’re reading their diary, which most people frown on while they judge parents for not watching their kids. It seems obvious but sometimes parents don’t realize what danger their kids could be in until they see something like this. How many parents look for a calculator app and check it even if they do go through their child’s phone? It’s a terrifying world out here.

@loyisad1211

10 ай бұрын

What a disgusting self congratulatory comment on a tragedy. The mother is not a millennial. Did it ever strike you that she didn't know about the dangers? Why make such a cruel comment to a grieving parent?

@Chefmarcellett

10 ай бұрын

Totally agree with you.

@danis4054

10 ай бұрын

@@loyisad1211 exactly. I think her mom is going through enough. And will always be going through it. She never wanted her “out of her face” 🙄

@teresamarie7460

10 ай бұрын

​@@loyisad1211It's a parents job to know everything about this world. Just like you parents know everything about your paid careers, you need to do the same for your parenting profession.

I love that DA from Alabama, she's trying to keep kids safe, thank you DA and all other DA's that follow in her footsteps. You can be a snooping parent w/o being annoying. Until they move out you as a good parent can create boundaries, and if they (children) don't like it then grow up and move out. I would never tolerate disrespectful yelling, loud talking to me or walking off and slamming doors.

That 15 year old girl knew what she was doing. Now she sits and cries that he messed up her life. No sweetie, you messed up your own life.

@sammie1262

4 күн бұрын

She was 15 and gullible enough to be deceived by a 30 year old man. Not her fault.

Why do they think child predators can be fixed? He will continue with his sickness. It's disgusting knowing he only received 3 years

@miapdx503

10 ай бұрын

Too many judges are predators too.

@misterlister-wm2tj

6 ай бұрын

​@@miapdx503well what do youbexpect? Democrats want to remove the age of consent and also they want to class paedophiles as a protected group? All you have to do is vote them out

@kayakazi7765

2 ай бұрын

​@@miapdx503makes sense

It's always the same: Idiot does something criminal and, afraid of it coming out, he does something even more glaringly criminal. 🤦

@wendyc1902

10 ай бұрын

He would have been better off going to an attorney to help him legally disconnect from this girl! The police caught him so fast it was better than leaving a footprint at the scene!

@retiredkidbuck

10 ай бұрын

Yup, tigers do not change their stripes. That's why character and reputation, and breeding are so important in judging a person.

@stevemiecznikowski9670

10 ай бұрын

Like Trump!

This is one of the scariest episodes I’ve watched. This could literally happen to any one of our children.

@t.j.7789

2 ай бұрын

They BOTH knew it was all about sex!! If your child is looking for that, sure it can happen!!

I’m an adult now but I used to use these apps to talk to strangers much older than me. I got straight As and had a good group of family and friends, but still somehow needed validation from strangers older men. Scary to think about what could have happened to me.

It's so heartbreaking to think of all the parents who probably sit by their murdered child's gravestone every day. Not to mention, the absolute terror the child must have went through in their last moments 😔

@user-zv7lm8uk7h

10 ай бұрын

Blame the silicon valley companies. You saw the Kik exec smirk when asked about it.

@tessaducek5601

10 ай бұрын

@@user-zv7lm8uk7h Parents hold much of the responsibility

@islandgirl9479

10 ай бұрын

​@@tessaducek5601 Everything starts at home.

I am so impressed with Brandon and his love for his daughter. It sure speaks volumes for what kind of a dad he is. I wish all kids had parents like him.

Why is it always social media's job to protect? As a parent, it's your job to be aware

@capnobvious2718

3 ай бұрын

Nah. It's easier to blame teachers, social media, neighbors, cops, church, etc. Why bother with actual parenting when you can pretend everyone else is supposed to keep your child(ren) safe?

@pixi2209

3 ай бұрын

🎯 Because it is easier for parents to blame everyone and everything around.

@honeyxaj5587

2 ай бұрын

🤨

The mom and dad in WA are badass! I love it.

No child under 16 needs a cellphone. And no child under 18 should have unmonitored access to social media or the Internet.

@juliaboyce3345

10 ай бұрын

I absolutely agree. The Internet can be dangerous for anybody at any age. Always keep in mind, you're going to meet up with a complete stranger. Someone you don't know anything about.

@sneekz07

10 ай бұрын

You're being delusional about the cellphone.

Man, kudos to this dad and his team of special ops friends. Major salute. Mom too. The daughter will be beyond proud of them one day.

Advice of that “big brother” floored me. A normal person would say - if she won’t stop contact, find her parents and let them know. “Be a bad boyfriend, and she will go away”. Holy word…

Elizabeth is very lucky to have people looking out for her

Hearing the next time her mom saw her daughter after seeing her alive was her coffin. Absolutely heartbreaking.

Unsupervised life online is all it takes to lose a child to anyone from anywhere. These people don't even have to be in the same country to hurt and abuse your children.

Scary times we live in especially for teens R.I.P Little Angel 😇 Strength to her Family 🙏🏻

That poor kid! She had a rough start in life and struggled to survive, only to have her life cut short in such a cruel manner.

My son is 18 now, he was aware of the dangers of social media from early on. Talk to your kids, don't underestimate their ability to understand and most of all: dont cage them with prohibitions and punishments like mad. It only drives a wedge between you and them. If they have a healthy homelife they are much less likely to fall for this.

@traybern

10 ай бұрын

18? So now he’s READY to prey on 13-year olds!!

@MaliciousHavok

10 ай бұрын

I know right, the parents knew their daughter was being bullied and, as far as we're aware, didn't try to get her any psychological help. Its also no hard to tell your child that there are creepy people online and if you feel unsafe come talk to you.

@camillelicour525

10 ай бұрын

I see eye to eye with you.The family blames the 30 year old man and social media but the daughter said that she felt imprisonned at home because her parents were too strict...that's why she found an escape.

@dementedopossum8148

10 ай бұрын

@@camillelicour525 yes, we need to educate our kids on the dangers, not forbid everything and make it more "attractive " for them. Same with drugs, alcohol, toxic relationships etc. The most precious things you can give your kids are your time and understanding.

@sidstovell2177

10 ай бұрын

​@@MaliciousHavokmaybe the mom couldn't afford to pay for a counselor? And from what I understand, there are fewer and fewer working for social services.

I’m curious if Walmart has kept track of how many murderers have been caught &/or convicted bcuz of their clear strategically placed security footage. My condolences to Nicole’s family and loved ones. Fly high in peace Nicole 🕊❤️

Here's a thought, maybe if people start actually being parents instead of letting their kids lock themselves in their room and sit on their phones or computers, just maybe being real parents they would know exactly what is going on in their kids lives. I always know when my son is feeling down or sad, i know when something is bothering him, I know when he's acting strange or wants to tell me something but doesn't know how to. YOU AS PARENTS have to put the work aside and make the child the priority, not the career or social life or relationship with partner.

@pixi2209

3 ай бұрын

🎯🎯🎯👏👏👏👏👍

Sometimes it's usually the people we least expect lol

Please parents beware of the evil out there stalking your children 🙏🥀🙏 Thank you 48 hrs for this coverage and reporting 👏

I HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR THIS FAMILY. THEY WILL GO AS FAR AS IT TAKES. THIS FAMILY DOES NOT WAIT FOR COPS TO HELP THEM.

@miapdx503

10 ай бұрын

The police won't help. We have to police ourselves.

@JemicoTX

9 ай бұрын

AND YOU TYPE IN ALL CAPS. WOW.

@user-jz2uj1mr5c

9 ай бұрын

​@@JemicoTXI don't think it's relevant to anybody if people type in capital letters.

Rip beautiful Nicole, everything you went through so early in life to survive and only for it to be taken so tragically!! 😢 I am so sorry.

Another example of great parenting. Especially dad. Good job. 👏🏽

This is not a new type of predator. Like most predators, they adapt to their environment. The tactics have changed but the game remains the same.

@miapdx503

10 ай бұрын

They have it down to a science. When you lock them up, they get together and school each other on predatory behavior.

The guy with the shotgun who was “trained in special forces” had me laughing.

@user-jc8py7dw7r

10 ай бұрын

Yea. He thought really highly of himself, lol.

@cobrakaicyberdon

10 ай бұрын

Yh he was reanacting it, like he was auditioning for a movie. 😅

@miapdx503

10 ай бұрын

He was a hero. I kinda wish he'd pulled the trigger.

This is absolutely terrifying. Side note, I think that Elizabeth is lucky and I also suspect that she should be under close surveillance until she's 18 because her tears were definitely fake.

Elizabeth needed more freedom to be herself, strict parents make sneaky children. Nicole needed way more attention from her parents. That girl was crying out for someone to see her. Both sets of parents served their girls up to predators on a silver platter by the way they raised them.

blaming kik is absolutely ridiculous. "they need to shut the internet down because I wasn't paying attention to my child."

@misterlister-wm2tj

6 ай бұрын

Exactly this. They could monitor their kids Internet use but they're too lazy and they've all got the 'it will never happen to my child' attitude

@pixi2209

3 ай бұрын

Oh yes! 🎯

@Brendonbosy

3 ай бұрын

Your argument was the same one used by tobacco companies. No one was saying ban smoking, but tobacco companies knew full well their profit margins go up if they can get ppl hooked young

@Brendonbosy

3 ай бұрын

For tech companies, It’s called “meta data”. If you think they only know your demographics by what you plug in when you sign up, buddy… you’re still living in 1999

@thecaptainsnark

3 ай бұрын

@@Brendonbosy ...no.

This case is beyond heartbreaking! 😢💔

Protecting your kid is important, but your child is also a human being, and you should give them privacy. Like, trust your kids, but also educate them on the harms/etc. Don't just go snooping in their phone/etc. ESPECIALLY if they are a teenager, as at that time they may be finding out who they are, and you don't want to run into their stash, iykwim. As long as you teach them the dangers, they should understand what to avoid without you having to invade their personal lives.

@Ais-eb9bk

2 ай бұрын

The problem is, you can tell your kids all the evils in the world until you're blue in the face, but kids just don't listen.

R.i.p., Nicole. I hope your story helps others.

God the mom shaking and crying made me cry. That pain will be felt for a long time.

I believe those parents did 100% the right thing

Her mother saying she was on the phone all the time, why on earth would you let your 13 year old daughter be online all the time talking to strangers?! You meant to be a parent!!!!

It's so heartbreaking.The online world is so dangerous.R.I.P. Nicole

@donnajoyner8907

10 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, the entire world is dangerous now. Every day that passes by, it is more dangerous. The last 2 years, has tripled crimes and they don’t even care if it’s broad daylight.

@debiweaver3238

10 ай бұрын

its really scary,

@IwasBlueb4

10 ай бұрын

JUST the online world or the world , period ?

@hikikomori_eu

10 ай бұрын

Soon there’ll be no clear point of distinction between the online world & the wider world. 5G, 6G, nano bio-tech, Smart Cities, humans will increasingly absorb technology & technology will absorb us. Welcome to the 21 century 😀🍿

@tanyakas4111

10 ай бұрын

@@IwasBlueb4dnt be dumb

I think Nicole's mother is more heartbroken that she didn't pay more attention and be more involved with what was going on with her daughter than the fact that she was gone. Guilt is more of a terrible thing than loss. I'm not saying she wasnt grieving or highly upset, but she is definitely feeling the guilt i can assure you. No matter how mad or upset your kids get at you, take the time to sit down and explain things and pick your child's brain and heart to know where they stand and what they are feeling or going through in life.

Elisabeth playing a victim is ridiculous! She was a willing participant and needs to take accountability for her actions....

Nicole’s mother breaks my heart. Poor mama , I wish I could do something to ease your pain.

Nicole needed more attention and time from her PARENTS. She cried out online and they could see that. When your child yearns for everyone’s attention, that means they need it from you MORE!!! Give it to them!

@victoria859

10 ай бұрын

Yes Exactly. Bad Parenting 💯

@JessicaPhillips-ro4of

10 ай бұрын

Amen!!! So so sad! I just wish I could have given her a huge hug and told her she IS loved and she IS beautiful!!! Bless her heart😢 RIP Coley!

@azazello1784

9 ай бұрын

She needed to go to gym.

@mambi74

9 ай бұрын

@@azazello1784 Maybe there's karma in the world and one day you get to experience what a damaged liver/anti-rejection medication does to your body.

@suspendeddisbelief401

7 ай бұрын

I felt that too. No tears from either parent. Cold

It's disgusting that the police claim there is nothing they can do.

@Ais-eb9bk

2 ай бұрын

Yup. And then afterward when they find the body they say "there were early signs. If only parents had done something."

My heart breaks for this whole family especially her mother, I’m so sorry this happened to your beautiful daughter, I myself am from Leeds and seeing this family ripped apart is just heartbreaking, such a lovely family who loved Fwasihia ( sorry for spelling ) so very much, the pain must be unbearable, her uncles are in so much pain for their beautiful nice but also for her mother and father their sister, such a loving family and I just want to send her mum so much love and hugs I’m so sorry 😞 xx

Go mom and dad! I love that dad got his buddies together to catch him.

This happened in my family. My sister, then 15, ran away to Texas via Amtrak. Thankfully we moved fast and managed to intercede the train at a city before Austin. She had been communicating with someone who had told her was 16 🤦🏻‍♀ This was very out of character for her, she would always be home and in her room. I had told my mom that I disagreed with her being isolated and with a phone!

I was also groomed by older men on kik when I was her age. Now as an adult, it makes me even more disgusted thinking about grown men preying on these impressionable children. These predators are looking for children who feel like they don’t belong with the rest of their peers & convince them that they belong with someone who “understands” them. Rest in peace to all the victims of these monsters :(

@madisondoyle5536

10 ай бұрын

This! I went through the same. exact. thing. Parents need to be more active in their children’s technology.

@thankyouforincorrectingme

10 ай бұрын

This has been happening way before Kik sadly. I grew up in the 90’s, with AOL chat rooms, messaging and pagers, these vile predators will always find a way. I’m sorry you endured that, it changed me as well. Luckily we are much more aware of the risks & dangers now, our parents were clueless.

@spiralrose

10 ай бұрын

There is no law saying that your child needs to have a phone that access the Internet… I know that no parent is god no parent can see 100% with her child is doing but if you put the Internet into their hands, you’re making it that much easier for them to get hurt

@jeremerathermel2405

10 ай бұрын

And now days teachers groom children it’s disgusting

@leah-pi3yy

9 ай бұрын

Kik was a breeding ground for predators

Parents, nobody’s expecting you to be able to monitor 100% of kids’ online activity, but the key is that you MUST KNOW your children. Talk to them. Watch for changes in their behavior. Some teens become very secretive, but you should do whatever it takes to identify what’s going on in their lives. Make them share their locations with you on their phones. ❤

Respect to the parents. They saved their daughters life 🙏

@mambi74

9 ай бұрын

They're actions were amazing and I applaud them for doing what they did on such short notice. Having said that, I didn't buy the daughter's act. Her body language at times when speaking about the guy gave her away - Seems to me mom and dad know they're not out of the woods with her.

@allanshpeley4284

6 ай бұрын

Saved it from what? Getting married to a man she was in love with? She knew his age and she lied about hers. And she was about to be of legal age in their state in less than a year. She's playing the victim.