These line of sight rules always get me and my friends into arguments. Lol

@larslaufer301

Ай бұрын

Read the rules yesterday for the first time and they are confusing to me. You can be seen, then you can be shot. When you are behind cover you get a bonus. Why am I obscured when I am further away from a large terrain piece? Shouldn't I be more visible out in the open? I get the part with "attacker peaks through a window or around the corner at 1 inch. That is okay but being out in the open should take away any kind of cover ???

In this picture there are 37 orks. They cannot be shot.

Love this video, great topic, great suggestion from your fanbase. I know you were just giving some examples for negating conceal, just wanted to add that Auspex Scan from the Phobox Infiltrator Voxbreaker for 1 AP, and Intercession Auspex for 2EP / 1AP

@CanYouRollaCrit

Жыл бұрын

Ah thanks. Yeah I chose not to mention those just so people don't get overwhelmed 😅

I get the cover/LOS rules, I use them, got it. But as someone who teaches this game a lot to new players I have to say they're terribly unfriendly to new players. "I want to shoot that guy!" "Actually, you can't" "Why not?! My guys eyes and gun can clearly see basically this whole body?!" "because the make believe black disk your guy is floating on can't see all of the make believe black disk my guys is floating around on" "......" So, mostly I do t enforce this in new players, but their frustration is legitimate. This Killteam is so much better than the first, but the only real thing I would change is using bases seeing all of other bases to decide LOS. It's not a fun system. It's not a good system. And it's not even plausibly realistic or immersive.

@CanYouRollaCrit

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the cover rules are really...not simple but they do make more sense the longer you play/get more familiar with the game. Still not great for new players tho

@deadswordsman

Жыл бұрын

Cover and concealment rules are most unintuitive thing in the whole KT ruleset. I remember my own frustration, your comment is on point

@chaznightlord8664

Жыл бұрын

@@CanYouRollaCrit If they're not good for new players, they're not good for players. Yes, you get them with time, but a better system would not require that. It's a cop out to just say "you'll get it eventually". That applies to everything, but it doesn't make it good game design.

@jeffreymonsell659

Жыл бұрын

I think the bases are supposed to represent the entire possible range of positions the unit could be taking. So if you can't trace to both sides of the base, that means that in the real world of the fight, that unit could be crouched or hugging a wall. I also disagree that all systems should be new player friendly. Intuitive rules are nice, but sometimes there has to be abstractions.

Great stuff. Only thing I'd add is using cover provided by friendlies and when that doesn't apply.

@HoneyCMB

Жыл бұрын

This is super important an ItD, I've found. Gotta hide behind your buddies.

Thank you! Really helpful and interesting!

@CanYouRollaCrit

Жыл бұрын

No worries, glad it helped (:

How to not get shot: don't play or stay concealed behind heavy terrain 😎

@CanYouRollaCrit

Жыл бұрын

Turtling heavy terrain is the best 🤣

As a new player this is really helpful. Didn't know you could shoot people on conceal order if within circle of them.

FINALLY! Thanks for this good video!!!!!!

@CanYouRollaCrit

Жыл бұрын

No worries, glad you liked it (:

Love this ❤️

@CanYouRollaCrit

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, hope it helped (:

@prujmi

Жыл бұрын

I think its amazing work to show people how to play like a pro. Great footages. Really nice work and explenation. :) Best part is the last one for me because when i play i use everything what you showed and its really hard to explain to someone who doesnt know it, that i have a cover because my base is under the heavy terrain and these details and than you look like cheating some times. So next time I just play them this video 😂 and now i am going to study new FAQ and Our favourite Vantage point problem 😂😂

Love the videos! Now that the erratas are all on their own, I can’t see anywhere where the grenade rules are (1 per dude) - where is that now?

@CanYouRollaCrit

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! That's in the Balance Dataslate which you can find on WarCom under the downloads section (:

Hello Crit! Thanks for your videos as always. I have a question: When determining obscuring, is it enough if even one of the cover lines is obscured? More specifically, if there is Heavy ruins with windows, and the closes point of the model would-be-getting shot is within 2" of the ruins, but the left-and-right points of the base are more than 2" from the ruins via fire lines?

@CanYouRollaCrit

11 ай бұрын

I believe so but the FAQ document has a good diagram for it

Hi, technical question. What is this little flashlight with red beam, that you use to define line of sight? What is the name of it? Where to get it?

@CanYouRollaCrit

Жыл бұрын

Ah I did a review on it for kill team gaming aids. It's the army painter line laser (:

Hi, can you tell me what are these (custom?) tokens you are using for orders? They don't look like the ones from the original box...

@CanYouRollaCrit

Жыл бұрын

They're acrylic ones from Buythesametoken

second example: does it matter if you're concealed? The cover line crosses that terrain feature more than 2" from the operative. Or am I missing sth?

@CanYouRollaCrit

Жыл бұрын

It's just to show how, if the heavy terrain wasn't in the way, your conceal order would be negated

@TheBrobbiebam

Жыл бұрын

@@CanYouRollaCrit I actually didn’t know that vantage points don’t take cover away when it’s provided by heavy terrain. I always thought the only difference between light and heavy would be the obscuring rule 😱 Thanks for pointing that out !!

How does the "tuck in"-rule works? You need to be 2" away from the heavy terrain to be obscured.... or not?

@CanYouRollaCrit

Жыл бұрын

You still need to be more than white away for obscuring, tucking helps make it harder for your opponent to negate your conceal order behind cover

new core rules faq out today fyi

@CanYouRollaCrit

Жыл бұрын

Yeah saw that, just fixed vantage points basically

what is that lazer thing you are using?

@CanYouRollaCrit

Жыл бұрын

Army painter line laser, done a review on it already

Base tucking is some sweaty ass meta nonsense lol.

@CanYouRollaCrit

11 ай бұрын

It very much isn't 🤣

I never understood why being further away from heavy terrain obscures you but being right next to it doesn't?

@CanYouRollaCrit

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it's odd at first. I guess it's to represent the shot(s) more likely to hit the heavy terrain than when you're close to it?

@KakitaKirby

Жыл бұрын

If you're right behind a window you're an easy target. If you're a bit away while moving you're far more difficult to target.

GW always can be relied on to make bad rules, rules unecessary complicated and write them unclear. I am amazed. Can we please make this less beginner friendly, I think some might actually get this after just longer than a match takes to play or three.

Watched this video thinking it was a way to avoid the vaccine.... goods not as advertised!!!!!! ;)