What I did was, I got some green stuff and modeled little glasses on the models to improve their vision. Now they have BS 3+. 😌 Plus, they get the “You wouldn’t hit a fella wif glasses, would ya?” rule. Which negates all damage in melee.

@3StoWound

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Now I’m going to have to add this to the video, it’s genius! 😂

The irony of being called "3's to wound" and playing a team that hits on 4's 😂🤣 Love your videos man keep them coming, you simply things so everyone can understand :)

@3StoWound

Жыл бұрын

The irony is not lost on me 😅 Thanks for tuning in!

I run mine with Compendium Scions rules because that team does everything Kasrkin are supposed to do but better (and follows the team's fluff more closely). Can't wait for this bespoke version to get a ballistic skill buff to bring them in line with what Kasrkin should be. Love your Kill Team Casuals podcast. Great stuff for all of us more relaxed, narrative oriented players. Thanks for the cool content!

Love it man! I came to the video to see how you struggled to say Kasrkin correctly through the entire video but stayed for the insight & Kasrkin fever.. out of respect im leaving this comment in low gothic and not my native binaric cant but just between us .... ahem ...01000111010100010101 *Screech* 1001000110010011001001001

@3StoWound

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@GFNGaming

Жыл бұрын

@@3StoWound 😯 how DddDAAAaaare you sir! my mother was a saint!

@3StoWound

Жыл бұрын

@@GFNGaming Sorry I got my 1's and 0's around the wrong way, it was your father I was talking about...

@GFNGaming

Жыл бұрын

@@3StoWound oh that's fair, valid comment

Love this! Please consider doing more of these for other teams, especially the underpowered ones!

More like KasrCAN'T! Oooooh!....I'll see myself out.

@3StoWound

Жыл бұрын

You can come back in after you think about what you have done!

Thanks for the breakdown, Rhys! I've got some Votann that I'm waiting on rules for, but I'm thinking I'll proxy them as Kasrkin.

@3StoWound

Жыл бұрын

No worries Steve, thanks for watching. I really hope they Votann arrive soon, they will be great!

@XDfunnyguy

Жыл бұрын

​@@3StoWound we need to petition gw for a votann WD team. I was really hoping they would keep up the pace of 1-2 WD teams a month back when we got Warp Coven, Ad Mech, and the Pants Thieves. Fingers crossed they refocus on Kill Team after the Into the Dark "season" is over. Speaking of, I wonder if the next "season" will have a new setting and setting rules like ItD or if it will be back to the standard open board. I personally like the ItD rules and setting better than open board. The close quarters style set up was what I took away from and was looking forward to after seeing the Octarius trailer.

@3StoWound

Жыл бұрын

@@XDfunnyguy Definitely missing the WD teams, I actually thought Votann could be a great option they could have used ages ago to get them on the table!

Nice and deep analysis, now we need some battle reps!

@3StoWound

Жыл бұрын

Working on them!!

Don't sell yourself short. You're not an amatuer nudist. You're professional as fuck.

@3StoWound

Жыл бұрын

You are right, I need to own it! 🤣

Really enjoyed this run through. Only played one game with the Kasrkin so far but really want them to be good.

@3StoWound

Жыл бұрын

They are really fun to play, but you definitely have to earn your wins!

Good to see you back at it! Excellent breakdown, I don't think I'm as harsh on the Kasrkin but you've raised a lot of valid points here. I've got some decent wins with them but for a simple team, they're quite difficult to play well. You really have to play your heart out just to have a decent showing at a game. As you alluded to, there's definitely some synergies between their strategic ploys and tactical ops and I think they've got both the best all-round sharpshooter in terms of flexibility (and definitely the best in class vox operative) but overall, the team sits in this weird middle ground where they're not a horde, but they are definitely not elite. They need help for sure, but I can't think of any single easy fix that wouldn't be overboard. We could just cave in and play them as Tempestus Scions...

@3StoWound

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I think that's the biggest thing about this team, every win is amazing, because you definitely feel like you earned it. I have won my last two games with them, but they have gone down to the absolute wire! For some people that unforgiving nature of the team is a big turn off. The fix for them would have to be subtle, a gentle touch if you will, or as you said they could end up OP if its too generous......or we could all play scions 😂

I've found elimination pattern can be utilised a lot more alongside the long range scopes, with two scopes and your recon that's 3 enemy operatives that get zero cover and suffer the p1. As you'll need the 6 to trigger the no cover anyway you're just making it hit that much better, and with elite points it's never too hard to find a 6. As far as buffs go I think you're right, either let the team gain some elite points per turn or give everyone the same special rule as the normal trooper and a free elite point with every attack.

@r_4_k-drone4321

Жыл бұрын

No Cover rule on weapon doesn't mean enemy operative isn't in Cover. It just means they cannot auto-retain cover dice.

@christopherboddison771

Жыл бұрын

@Andrzej Rakow thanks for the clarification, I read it as no cover being the same as not being in cover, shame really as it was the only way to get elimination pattern to be worth the cp

@3StoWound

Жыл бұрын

I definitely feel like I have underutilised the scopes in the past, that's a great way to take advantage of them.

Hey, you made a video and talked about Kill Team! I was so startled I dropped my pineapple and it turned right-side up!

@3StoWound

Жыл бұрын

It's crazy how that "just happens"!?!?

Writing this about halfway through your video before I forget to do it, so if you do mention these later then I am obviously a fool. Some kasrkin equipment combos I've seen others use that you didn't mention: - basic troopers 1 free elite point per shooting attack combos v nicely with a frag grenade as each person in blast is a separate attack, so potentially multiple free elite points. - foregrip is really good on ITD with guard actions - adrenaline shot on your medic is awesome as you can rescue someone and still have 2apl on the medics own activation.

@3StoWound

Жыл бұрын

Mate these are all great tips and I didn't mention any of them. This is what I was hoping for, some great stuff I missed. Love that medic one especially!

Watching the vid late at night hobbying away and listening on headphones. when @8:19 the sound effect for leadership made me shit my pants. I literally though my pile of shame in the cupboard behind me collapsed. I event went and checked to make sure they were safe

@3StoWound

Жыл бұрын

hahah yeah, that sound effect definitely got away from me! Apologise to your eardrums!

@Torchedqwe

Жыл бұрын

@@3StoWound no worries, loved the vid!

For myself having played against Kasrkin a few times in the last couple of months at my FLGS, regardless of the metadata coming out of professional tournaments they have been a great opposing team, especially that sniper unit imo. End of the day it's a mixture of rolls from the dice gods and the players choices that can determine how a team performs. I even wanted to get hold of them but alas still sold out!

@3StoWound

Жыл бұрын

That's very true! A lot comes down to how you play them, a bit of luck and who they match up with. Still definitely a fun team, who is hopefully back in stock soon!

@adeptusslugusgaming

Жыл бұрын

@3'S to Wound absolutely they are a fun team. I do think people get hung up on the data that's produced out of these tournaments and forget the wider picture of a team. Kasrkin are most definitely the cool IG.

Vital Objective can be cheesed on Objectives you've already controlled by using reposition to dash any operatives off of (ideally) an easily defensible point then declaring it for the Tac Op. 2cp for 2vp is a worthy trade

@3StoWound

Жыл бұрын

I like a bit of 🧀

@sixsevenfour

Жыл бұрын

Reese playing the long game, getting reps in before a buff has all the cheese chasers coming over and making nurgle and vostroyan proxy teams. 👌

@3StoWound

Жыл бұрын

@@sixsevenfour You get it, I'm all about that ages, extra smelly cheese around here! 🧀

I don't think the Demo-Tropper's blast padding does help him against his own Melta Mine. Blast Padding helps with splash and blast keyword attacks, but the Melta Mine has neither - it has Proximity.

@Thomas-rw1be

Жыл бұрын

It says "or makes a shooting attack against each operative within range of a specified point (e.g. melta mine)" easy to miss with all the boilerplate. Not that it matters much lol, the Demo's always dead against his own mine

@StevenJohnson108

Жыл бұрын

@@Thomas-rw1be thanks for pointing that out. I definitely missed that!

@Thomas-rw1be

Жыл бұрын

@@StevenJohnson108 no problem, king. Love the kasrkin!

I wonder if it would improve the team if Elite points could be used on enemy operatives when they shoot or even in melee.

@3StoWound

Жыл бұрын

Some form of defence would help them a lot, so maybe to improve a defence dice!

@thomaschandler1973

Жыл бұрын

@@3StoWound Yeah, improving one of your own defence dice would work better than my idea. Changing your opponent's dice could lead to a lot of fell bad moments. Their biggest issue is not having enough Elite points throughout the game.

@3StoWound

Жыл бұрын

@@thomaschandler1973 20 is a nice round number I think!

@thomaschandler1973

Жыл бұрын

@@3StoWound I think 10 is a good starting point, but they need a better way of getting them consistently into the late game. A ploy that gained Elite points, or an action for the vox guy.

Fluff representation of the 4+BS, 7w, and EP aside (I personally am a fan of the hardlined 'mortal human' baseline as opposed to the eldar profile), Kasrkin are in a bit of a bind in terms of being buffed. The EP appears to be just enough against Elite/Marine teams to allow your important shots to be lethal while being few enough EP to be thoughtful while not being too many EP to overwhelm the opponent. They appear to have probably a winning matchup against all marine teams. But going into other shooty horde teams, the EP starts to fall apart. There are just too many enemies to not have lethal shots against to win. Buffing the EP count as it stands to help them against the teams they struggle against will leave them in a position where they absolutely crush Elite teams. I think giving all models the Elite Trooper ability, but limiting its use to just hot-shots and gun-butts, would solve this. The pool would be used for the big boy shots - vital against elites - but the trooper rule would make the hot-shots useful against human/eldar profiles. If that's not enough, buffing CLEARANCE SWEEP to allow operatives to use EP on multiple dice in a given attack (instead of just one) could be huge.

@XDfunnyguy

Жыл бұрын

Give everyone the current trooper ability, and give the trooper +1 to their free ep

@3StoWound

Жыл бұрын

I really like the idea of them all inherently having the Elite trooper for Hot shot armed soldiers. Its a small tweak, but would increase their effectiveness without being over the top. I agree too that their stat line is great for baseline human, I think all stat lines in general have crept up so a 4+ now seems oppressive, whereas in the past lots of teams had the same 😅

@r_4_k-drone4321

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@@3StoWound I'd like to see tactical ploy that allows them to buff 1 more dice with Elite Points (pay 1CP - be able to also buff 2nd dice. pay 2 CP - be able to buff 3 dice..). That way you can REALLY make your shot count, even if it gets costy

@3StoWound

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@@r_4_k-drone4321 I like this, its powerful, but you have to put the points into it. Risk reward is good.

Kasrkin more like kasrwin 😂

@3StoWound

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I'm thinking of getting this as a tattoo