Keystone RV Fusion Slide-Out Poorly Designed?
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So I took a look at this 2015 Fusion toy hauler 2 years ago and recommended slide out rollers. So Keystone chose a slide support that is little more than a plastic shoe to drag the slide on top of. This is a BAL cable driven slide with the light duty drive unit so needless to say, over time the slide weight deformed the shoe at the corners which increased the drag which caused the slide motor to struggle to move the slide. It became so bad that the only way the slide would move was if the trailer battery was being charged. So join me as I add rollers to the slide and see if it helps. Thanks for watching!
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Brilliant fix James! Man give me a guy with imagination, competence and experience every time.
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
If this were mine,i would be glad to have it repaired this way.You are the man.
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
Although this is a 3yr old video, it answered the question and showed me the fix for the concern my son has on his camper. I see a spring pre-camping season repair job coming up . Thanks James.
Good Repair! I enjoyed watching a Master Tech at work! We could hear the difference in the motor after the rollers were installed.
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
I'm happy that you could hear the difference. I swear it was a vast improvement! :)
Your an amazing repairman! I will be bringing my rv to you when it needs repairs. Thanks for the videos.
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@rnreajr9184
3 жыл бұрын
@@AZExpert Where is your shop? I am in Utah, but would gladly take the trailer down there for "when the time comes."
Watched many of your videos and enjoyed each one, while learning something new about RV repairs. Just Subscribed ! Brian
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard! Thanks for watching!
Nice work and another great video...thanks for taking the time to film all this.
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, thanks for enjoying them!
James great work I look forward to watching all your videos thanks for the great job you be doing
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, that is a high compliment to watch all my videos.
Always amazed at your craftsmanship! And amazed by the lack of quality on some of the Rv travel trailer etc. I know making the videos adds a lot of extra time to your work so thanks for taking the time on making them.
@AZExpert
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
Thanks this helps a ton. I have a large slide catching on its outside edge when you try to retract . I had to Jack it up the last time to get it up and over the lip. Thanks for the solid advice as always!
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
Hope you are able to get it going.
Wow! What a great solution! Just followed this to a T today on my 2014 Fuzion, and my slide works better than new. Not a bad job either. Had to drill a couple mounting holes slightly higher in the center bracket to be sure I caught the wood. Power riveter is a must. Did mine by hand and broke the tool.
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
Excellent fix James. Talked to a tech guy from BAL a few months ago. I was told the OEMs are told to put a roller every 16 inches and like this one. They used NONE. Good job OEMs
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
That's good to know. It's strange how factories care so little some times. Thanks!
@hillbillyrv
3 жыл бұрын
@@AZExpert It is a shame that us lowly techs care more than the factories.
Another great re-engineering job that the factory should have done. Maybe that one will need some plates added between the rollers and the floor some day also. You rock.
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
thank you!
I added rollers about 6 months ago. Made a big difference and seems to be holding up. Good to see my thinking confirmed
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
It seems so obvious we have to wonder why the factory didn't do it originally. Glad to hear it held up so long. Thanks!
@DavidHBurkart
3 жыл бұрын
@@AZExpert ...and the fact that Lippert manufactures these rollers to begin with, it should be a clue to the RV industry to be beta-testing for their own slide installations.
Nice fix. Thanks for putting this video together. Happy trails!
@AZExpert
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Phil
Another good job and thanks for taking the time to share your vast knowledge. God Bless.
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome, thanks for watching!
Love the videos, I will do my rollers in a couple weeks. Looks pretty easy. Thanks!!
Entertaining to watch... I've only ever done warranty repairs for rollers. I never realized how many there are! The forklift comes in handy I had to do mine on a muddy 'gravel' campsite with a bottle jack.
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
The forklift started to get in the way. The lift cart or bottle jack was ultimately easier. I have little patience for mud.
I watch a few RV related channels and Big Truck Big Rv is one I have learned a lot from and when it comes to slides it seems hydraulic can be finicky/expensive, for large slides Rack/pinion then Schwintech are ok but cable are best left to small/light slides. Your creative work around to get the slide to function was great to see, good job.
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. This full wall slide was a rarely built model but hydraulic. I really do prefer the electric single motor rack and pinon, but the industry has chosen every other one but that one. It's crazy
Excellent! Thanks for this Video I will absolutely be doing this!
I have a similar problem with my 2012 KZ Durango 5th wheel bedroom slideout. When built, the factory didn't even install all of the slide blocks required, never mind rollers. When notified, KZs response was very unhelpful. I'm repairing and improving using the method in this video. Thank you!
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
Good luck, I suspect it will help a great deal.
Doing mine this weekend. Keystone cougar x lite. 28RLS 2017. Using the J-36 rollers. Two screws a little easier . Your vids give me confidence. ✅✅
@AZExpert
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, good luck!
@markt7291
2 жыл бұрын
@@AZExpert worked great.
You got mad skills, James!
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
Be interesting to see what the amp draw was on the motor before and after.
Very nice solution to the problem, looks like it worked well. We almost bought a keystone product last year for our first rv, we went to the dealership 3 times to look at different models and each time I would find problems with all of them, was not impressed at all with the lack of quality from them. Seems like they didn't even pdi the units before putting them on the lot. All the while, the salesman kept telling me they were " super high quality products"....
@AZExpert
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! :)
Love your videos. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. As for adjusting the height location of the rollers do you raise it up an 1/8", 1/4" or whatever. Also will it affect the pitch much of how tight the inside seal seats up to the walls?
WHAT A MONSTER🤣😂GOOD JOB!!! AS USUAL...LUV WATCHING YOU...WHEN I have cool ideas, I call mysrlf an evil genius🤣😂🇨🇦❤🇺🇲
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
RVs are always listening for a challenge, so I keep quiet around them.
I have a 2017 Keystone Sprinter and this issue just started on dining room slide, mainly on the right side, going to use soapy water until I get home then the roller fix. this is on the dining table and couch side. The bedroom slide for queen bed has 3 hard rollers so not a issue. You would think Keystone on newer models would fix this will rollers rather then a piece of cheap plastic ! Your video was very good, after watching this I can do this will no problem and will use a 4x4 and bottle jack.
@AZExpert
2 жыл бұрын
LoL glad I could help
Clean, simple solution to a garbage design. Well done!
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Thanks for the videos. I manage a RV repair shop that specializes in structure rot/roofs/collision. Nice to see anothers point of view. Want a job? Haha. So difficult to find competent people in our industry.
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome. I'm glad you enjoyed them!
Very thorough craftmanship. You think about the long term on your repairs. Great job!
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
Thats the hope. Thanks!
Unbelievable. Actually scratch that... Totally believable. We should be ashamed of what we've become, designing to a price point to maximize initial profit (which in a perfect world from the manufacturers' perspective barely makes it exactly past the warranty period) before needing major repair. And people wonder why their RV's lose 70% of their value in the first 5 years. Great job. You're an engineer in my book.
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
It is sadly very believable and thank you!
@seymourscagnetti1413
7 ай бұрын
The great global plandemic-19 virus has caused RV prices to triple.
Nice job. Engineering wise it seems a lot of brands consider a design successful if the cost of failures during the warranty period is less than the cost of putting in rollers to begin with.
@AZExpert
Ай бұрын
Well said!
Awesome video! Can you show or tell me what you did after you got the rollers installed to reseal the underside where you had to cut the seal to fit the rollers. I can see light through there now. Thanks.
I have 2016 Fuzion Toy Hauler with same slide jerky slow moevement problem on 2 slides as this unit you show. Cant find the Lippert rollers in stock anywhere. Thanks James for the video
@AZExpert
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Good luck finding those! Thanks for watching
Good fix!! I have a 2010 Fleetwood 40X class A and the front side of the drivers slide has dipped and the cover for the slide arm is scraping the top of the side panel below. I was wondering if rollers have a weight capacity?
I didn't know that anyone built slides like that (cheeeeeep). That is a good way to fix it, and I'll pass it along if I ever see another. The irony is that these are slide-outs, but if they actually have to slide across something, even a plastic runner, they aren't that good! You do earn your "Expert" name!
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. These slides are not researched as much as people think they would be, mostly the R&D is after it was purchased.
Thanks for making this video, at least now I'll know what to do when mine fails. You're not an engineer, you're a re-engineering genius. My 2018 Sunset Trail (made by Keystone) uses this same design. No problem so far but I've looked at is several times and wondered how long it will be before it starts binding. Seems like a poor design to me ( and I am an engineer).
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
you're never suppose to tell a techician you're an engineer....we're enemies. LOL thank you for the compliments and support!
@michaelfowler8174
3 жыл бұрын
@@AZExpert this is true! been in aerospace for over 30 years now, engineers suck! lol😐
@wereoutnabout
3 жыл бұрын
Dustin we have a 2018 sunset trail too. Over the last year or so the slide hops going in and out and I’ve used wd40 specialist dry lube to lubricate the friction bar. It worked well for a while but still requires lube every time we move the slide. Now I’m noticing the Darco material fraying on the ends so now I’m thinking it’s time to install these rollers. Have you installed these rollers on your sunset trail and which rollers did you use? Also, do you guys know what I could seal the darco with to keep water out of the plywood floor? I wondered while watching this video that you can see the plywood floor since this customers darco was so worn off. Installing rollers but never sealing up the bottom aren’t you going to end up with a rotten floor and have to do major repairs down the road? I was looking at flex seal paste to coat the frayed darco. But would love your opinions!
The crazy part about all of this is it wouldn’t cost a whole lot of money or taking much time at the manufacturing level to put a full length roller along the bottom of the slide out. I think it’s a perfect fix.
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
Factories generally tend to go where the money is and what is demanded unfortunately.
Great work! Would you recommend this modification as preventative maintenance? I have 3 cable slide outs on my 2024 Forest River Vibe 34xl. Everything works good now since it's new but I try to do anything I can to prevent future issues. Thanks for the content!
I like the idea of the extra room, the final Product is a disaster and a repair bill waiting to happen if you’re close enough and lucky enough to somewhere they can repair it. I have the Schwinn tech system and because of how poorly and overstressed in the way that it is designed and engineered it keeps me from using my RV in fear of it breaking. If I had to do over again I would not get a slide out regardless of the manufacture, your experiences may be different but it’s not worth the chance you take for me to do it again. as long as RVs are out there The repair people have plenty to do.. Thank you AZ expert you’re doing gods work.
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
I have a very similar opinion about slide outs.
@DavidHBurkart
3 жыл бұрын
@@AZExpert ...when my wife Lisa and I bought our motorhome, we chose an older non-slide for similar concerns
Excellent job bro.
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Another good one, James.
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!
Great video. I need to do this to my slideout. How much do the rollers lift the slideout?
We have a 2015 Impact 311 same slide out adjustment. Except the slide is out of square. Wipe on Left is pealing the window trim off tight at top left corner, what else can align this issue. Want to put the rollers on the bottom like this.
Hi what do you suggest for a hartland northtrail 23rbs slide outs
Hello I need an advice I replaced my rv floor but now when slide in it is not well aligned and one corner hit the corner frame and makes it close with issues any advice for it.
It’s a crazy design depending on cables for all that weight.
Great repair !
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
Thoughts on using FRP panel under the slide out?
I actually just got all of my rollers in to do the same to my 16 model fusion. The bedroom slide has rollers beneath it but the main heavy slide is like this one. BAL themselves sells a roller to repair this, and has stated to me on the phone that the suggested keystone to use the rollers instead of the slide bar. The BAL number is 854304. I got mine from Dyers RV online their number is 97444. I am considering putting either 1\8 aluminum or uhmw plastic as a runner for the roller to keep from the roller wearing into the particle board under the darco material
@Jennifer-007
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for those numbers, I have a 2016 Fuzion 414. It appears that you determined we have 1/2" wear bars, good to know. How did your install go?
Thank you so much for a great video.
@AZExpert
2 жыл бұрын
You are so welcome!
@bgdog1960
2 жыл бұрын
This problem was driving me crazy for 3 years. I have a Keystone Impact 312 TT TH. I ordered the rollers and will tackle it as soon as my steel rivet gun arrives. I just wish they would manufacture it right from the factory. I would gladly pay more more and not get aggravated. Again, Thanks for the help.
Wish I had known about you before I got rid of my 2011 Georgetown slide problems an water issues from day one
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
Slides and their repairs can be a a difficult task.
Do you know if the slide has rollers on the forward edge to prevent it from digging into the floor ? I have some slight scratches on my flooring where the slide touches in the retracted position . JwgK
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
it should as the roller should lift the slide up slightly more, if it's tilting then the cables are misadjusted.
Absolute genius. I’d guess the plastic “guides” wear down with that heavy slide on it. The rollers are far better to carry the weight. Probably not worth welding the rollers to the frame. Not everyone has a forklift to lift a slide 😂. I got some airbags and cribbing on a rescue squad that would work. Nice repair and better then new. Motor sounds less stressed 👍🏼
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe if it was a solid shoe, but it was a hollow tube with one vertical support, how could it not collapse? The forklift was overkill in hindsight :)
@Thesaltymedic36
3 жыл бұрын
AZ Expert they are built for a good time, not a long time. 😂
Two words: you're awesome!
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
thank you!
How much do you think the rollers raised the slide? About to do mine myself. Them you.
So how much of final gap did you have after the rollers installed? Did you jack it up about 1/4 inch and then install the rollers?
Given enough time, do uou think the bottom will deform and start dragging again?
It would appear that common sense is pretty much in short supply with some of these designs. There's a huge difference between working fine on paper and actually working in the real world which gets overlooked far to ofter, Another great work around that was well thought out and executed. An expensive piece of paper that costs a fortune to acquire and then hang on the wall in a pretty frame is no substitute for experience...
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised they didn't install them too
can you not use the J 36 roller if you cut out a piece of the rub bar
Have you ever had to replace the slide rollers on a 2004 Alfa Gold? How complicated is the job?
How long is the sofa slide with 5 rollers added? How long is the kitchen slide & how many rollers were used?
Nice job re-engineering these slides. And good of the owner to leave you a granola snack under the second slide!
Only concern is how the bottom of that slide will hold up against those rollers. As Glen suggested, using a thin nylon/plastic guide for the roller to run on would be ideal, but adds another layer of complexity to the repair. Your fix sure makes the motor sound more normal and is WAY better than the OEM design. Owner just needs to keep things lubed and watch for wear.
@AZExpert
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! :)
I would love to work with this guy, Would learn a lot
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I learn a lot from everyone I work with too.
Is the J-13 roller a little longer than the J-1 roller? If so, is that the only difference?
The repair was about a year ago. I am wondering if the RV has been back for a check and if the rivet holes have held or 'wall'erd' out?
@AZExpert
2 жыл бұрын
Our goal is to never have them come back
@mattphillips5298
2 жыл бұрын
@@AZExpert The Milwaukee riveter doesn't work with 1/4 x 1/4 rivets. Did you use a 3/16 x 1/4 or 3/16 x 1/2? Thanks!
how come you did not use rivnut instead of rivets? With the rivnut you can atleast unbolt the roller?
I’m working one on one of these now. Removed the today because the drag bar dialogued .
I have a 2016 Keystone Sprinter 5th wheel that has the same cable driven slides with the plastic threshold. I recently have changed out motor and gearboxes on 2 of my slides. Now found water damage on the floor of my large dineette/sofa slide (watched another one of your videos on that repair). I am going to add these rollers to my large slide when i pull the floor to replace. I had looked at that slide in the past and wandered why there wasnt rollers on it. Thanks for the great videos.
How high do you mount the rollers? I think you raised high enough to see the plastic rail? Put the roller against the bottom of slide then screwed it in? Let slide down?
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
oh enough to support the slide so it's not dragging hard on the wear bar.
Gm and happy Thanksgiving.....quick question....I have a cable slide and was wondering if cable breaks, can I manually push my slide in. Small slide and I believe it's on rollers
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
Those slides will generally work with one or 2 cables broken.
@TC-tw5zk
3 жыл бұрын
@@AZExpert how about the gearbox striped?
We have a 2016 voltage toy haer with the same cable system. I think this would be a good idea. Our floor is partical board (great huh) which I had to spray the whole under with under paint due to water making it swell.
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
That's insane that particle board is the floor. If you add rollers add some extra ones to reduce stress on the board.
@heritage_cowboy6568
3 жыл бұрын
@@AZExpert yes the bottom is particular board.i seen your video on a motor coach that you was fixing the slide out track that had metal strips for the rollers, i like that.
I just purchased 8 of the lippert J-36 rollers for my Keystone, my slides are through frame rack and pinion style, are the J-36 going to work?
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
I couldn't say off hand. There needs to be enough room under the slide for the width of that roller. I know there have been a few channels showing that installation. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ept7p7mmldLQfpM.html
@scottschultz895
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I watched that video already, I going to go for it! I feel pretty confident they will work.
I finally found the Lippert install manuals. They show them inboard 6" and every 24-36 inches. The J13 is a suitable PN.👍Keystone just cheaps out and doesn't install them.
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
thats good information and insane Keystone knows better
I'd do one more thing to finish the job.....seems it wasn't till 2020 or so manufacturers finally figured out a simple $3 drip edge piece of metal (or plastic) would be nice to put on each end of the slide- remove the trim piece on each end and slide the 90 degree piece of flashing under the slide wall and attach the bottom part to the slide floor with some short screws, then cover with darco tape. Alternatively you can use 4" black eternabond instead, wrapped around. Solves the age old problem of floor rot that starts at the edges and works its way in because when it rains the water runs down the wall and hangs out on the underside due to surface tension!
Umm.. at time stamp 21:10 do you see a gap (sunlight) at the top of the slide when closed?? That could be bad
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
I did, I'm telling myself it was the glare from the window above. I didn't notice it in real life so just a camera thing
Sure hope this works. Have a friend that has trouble with those type of slides they had ir since they bought it New. Not a toy hauler 5th wheel
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
It seems like all I have is hope....but it's working so far. Thanks!
Would love to bring you my old RV and see if you can fix my slideout. Im in AZ. Where are you, what company?
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
I'm not currently accepting any work, but I appreciate the vote of confidence!
Hi, tha k you for making this video. Just how much would a repair like this cost?
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
I don't remember, the rollers are 20-30 a piece I think I think 3-4 hours for installation
@alvarohernandezEVO
3 жыл бұрын
@@AZExpert Thanks for the information.
Nice.. our gear box for the kitchen slide went out. Found one on ebay.. gear boxes are on back order..
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
Sounds great!
@erikdahlen6894
3 жыл бұрын
AZ Expert thanks for the videos you post. I do windows and siding in Texas. So I try to knock out as much as I can myself. We have a 15 raptor. That bal system seems like a poor design to me. I ordered some rollers today after watching your video
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
It's a very interesting design which allowed different floorplans, but is very prone to failure. Thanks!!
It probably wouldn't have hurt to put skis on those slide edges since the coating has been torn down to the wood. Relatively cheap additional wear and seal protection, especially since the brunt of the weight is now on a couple inches of roller on each side.
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
it couldn't hurt. Thanks!
Where did you source the rollers?
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
amazon sells them, lipperts online store has them, and of course your local rv dealer should be able to get them. Thanks!
Great fix. I think that you should sent the toyhauler company a bill for fixing their mistake.
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
I think so too
Even better, if you apply a snug fitting washer on the back of a rivet, it pulls the riveted parts together much tighter
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the washer does help, but then I'd have to cut open the other side and put it back together keeping it weather tight. Thanks!
Of course, I am only looking at it from my computer but doesn't this transfer all the weight of the slide to the rollers when it's in? I am concerned about all that weight sitting on the edge when bouncing down the road. That being said you did exactly what I would have done to correct the problem. Great job as always!
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but most slides are supported by roller at all times. That's what these are designed for. Thank you!
@timallbritton3716
3 жыл бұрын
@@AZExpert I am needing a new roof put on my 38-foot Raptor fifth wheel. I know it needs 2 sheets of plywood replaced on the back as well. I wish that I was close to you but I am in Georgia. What should a job like that cost me? I haven't got a price on it yet and was just wondering if you could tell me a good price? Thanks!
Can you please share where you got the rollers and the name and manufacturer.
@AZExpert
Жыл бұрын
I added the links to amazon in the decription: But I used the J-36 rollers you may have to try different ones. Thanks! lippert J-36 roller(off set) : amzn.to/40q6Zoz lippert J-32 roller: amzn.to/3nhuL88 lippert HD J-1 roller: amzn.to/3yXhUKy
@jeffreyflaugher3623
Жыл бұрын
@@AZExpert awesomeness!!! Thanks for sharing!! Great video, I have a similar issue and this is just what the Dr ordered. Cheers
James, you honestly need to hold a TedTalk for RV manufacture engineers and builders. They have no idea until they see post production issues. These post sale results are absolutely atrocious. People are spending tens/hundreds of thousands of dollars and financing out of their ears for 20+ years! And for absolute JUNK. It's like building a Ferrari out of balsa wood. At some point, one of these "cut corners" is going to kill a customer and the manufacturer will go bankrupt paying a settlement. Much of what we're seeing almost looks like intentional negligence. Thankfully many of us owners have you has a reference and guide to try and prevent one of these catastrophes down the road and be more keen to preventative maintenance. Good lawd, I feel sorry for 90's Winnie owners.....lol
What KZread channel did you watch? Just curious
Is there a way to grease those rollers? Great repair btw.
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
they should not be greased it will cause issues and get everywhere
Nice job. I wish the manufacturers would have their engineer cronies watch your videos of all their flawed designs. It’s really sad that after all the years of making these trailers that they are still so far behind in logical engineering practices.
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
I was shocked to see the frame fail so bad too
Is it me or is the motor noise produced my this brand louder than normal? I seem to have heard much quieter motors from other brands.
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
There are only two types of motors for these BAL slides. The older solid gear box is the heavy duty design and quieter, the newer lightweight has a flexible shaft which is louder and much more common.....because it's cheaper
After following your process to install rollers, iI discovered there is aluminum square tubing with plastics wear bearing on my 2021 cougar fifth wheel. There was no plywood to mount rollers on. The wood flooring you drilled lag bolts to support rollers does not exist on my 1/2 ton fifth wheel. The flooring above the tubing is no more than 1/8 inch thick. I'm going to use cross bolts(plus rivets) to attach rollers to tubing.
I used UHMW plastic sheets under my slide out 3 years ago and it works great so far. I had the same problem with this type of slide and it would shake the rv bad when operating the slide. I attached it with 3m tape and counter sunk some 1/2 in stainless screws with some sealer on the screw thread and heads to prevent monster and screws from backing out.
@brianheying4478
2 жыл бұрын
I was going to do the rollers as you did but I thought I would try this first.
Had to add rollers to my alliance, now the slide floors don’t lay flat to the rv floor!!
Also I realized that the slide up in the bedroom has white plastic rollers built-in. I don't know why they didn't do that on the living room slide out??
Pretty cool idea. It’s crazy all the dust out there. Not a big fan of the cable driven slides, maybe it’s a lack of understanding on my part. Does it say in the owner’s manual that 3 people are required to operate the slide? 1 person for the switch and 2 people to pull the slide out or push it in? You may not know the formulas and equations to build that slide however the person who did had no idea what friction is. Just sayin!!
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I wonder with these designs for sure. In ideal conditions it should work but I've never encountered "ideal" conditions.
I have a 2020 Hideout where the slideout leaks badly through the roof. It is in the shop getting looked at and they say that roof is sagging in the middle. It is a F'ing new camper. Now I'm fighting with Keystone. They are absolutely horrible to deal with.
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
I am so sorry to hear that. I hope they figure it out. Slide leaks can be quite difficult.
Rollers arrived today for the frig side
@AZExpert
3 жыл бұрын
good luck
@Yukonjackman1
2 жыл бұрын
@@AZExpertThank you sir