Massive move by the Mets to get Hernandez back in the day… stoked he is still such a big part of Mets baseball with broadcasting and the memories.

Boy, I'm glad we got you, Keith. Love you!

I, for one, am extremely happy that Hernandez got traded to the Mets. My favorite childhood team was the 85-86 Mets!

As a 10 year old boy in St. Louis this was devastating. Nearly every Cardinal fan hated the trade. Keith was very popular, maybe especially with all of our moms. Still, you could say it all worked out okay for both teams over the next several years. But, we sure did miss Keith.

@marknoble5495

Жыл бұрын

Same situation here. Was a 10 year old Cardinal fan. The trade made zero sense. The big rumor was cocaine. Only thing that made sense. How do you trade one of the best players on the planet for nothing? Not sure how that trade worked for the Cardinals. Obviously we eventually got Jack Clark who hit tape measure home runs, but don’t see that trade was good for anyone but the Mets.

@patricksevers8012

Жыл бұрын

​@@marknoble5495it wasn't big rumor, was exactly why the trade went down!

@marknoble5495

11 ай бұрын

@@patricksevers8012 they aren’t mutually exclusive lol. It can be a rumor and true

One of the greatest trades ever Made by the great Frank Cashen RIP

I remember when this trade happened; any baseball fan with even a minimal amount of knowledge of the game could immediately see the professionalism Keith brought with him, both with his fielding and his hitting. To this day, I feel that he's the best fielding first baseman Ive ever seen, the only first baseman who ran the infield defense. I remember having the sense that things were finally starting to look up, especially that the young talent was almost ready for the major leagues, headlined by Darryl Strawberry.

@patrickwall8517

Жыл бұрын

Is this a joke? You do realize that he got traded because he was using cocaine.

@dzanier

11 ай бұрын

@@patrickwall8517 no, it was far more than that. Whitey once said about Keith, “he was more interested in doing The NY Times crossword puzzle than the game,”. Whitey thought he wasn’t intense enough, or perhaps too intellectual. This was cultural, personal. I’m not saying coke had nothing to do with it, but it was far, far more than that.

@thephotoandthestory

10 ай бұрын

​@@dzaniersome places are not great fits and he had a ring with St. Louis and Frank Cashen clearly saw his opportunity. It sounds like he and Herzig didn't see eye to eye. Keith is a California guy, Herzog was a rust belt Kraut. They probably came from different worlds.

@dzanier

10 ай бұрын

@@thephotoandthestory you’re right.

@dzanier

10 ай бұрын

@@thephotoandthestory Yet George Brett was also a California guy and Whitey loved his outward intensity. He probably perceived Keith as laid back and even a bit cerebral. George wasn’t like that. Brett almost was like a football player out there. It was personal between Keith and Whitey. You’re right.

For a then young teenage Cardinal fan. This day shocked me. I was watching a minor league team call then. "The Quincy Rivermen" small town north of St. Louis about 90 miles on the Illinois side of the Mississippi river. The P. A. announcer comes over the airwaves. "Keith Hernandez has been traded to the New York Mets for Rick Ownby." All the Cub fans thought that was just beyond funny. While all of us Cardinals said the same thing. "Who the hell is Rick Ownby???" Well, I'm glad he's in the Cardinals hall of fame. Good for you and your great career with the Cardinals and the Mets. Peace Keith!

Completely changed that '83 lineup

The situation was that Keith would do crossword puzzles when the Cardinals were taking fielding practice.

@jpwjr1199

Жыл бұрын

Lol is that right? Whitey didn’t ask him to cease that practice?

It made him popular with the Mets and the rest is history.

The two Cardinal trades where personality got in the way of baseball acumen............... Keith Hernandez to the Mets and Carlton to the Phillies........... Wow. What could have been...................

@big8dog887

11 ай бұрын

Templeton for Ozzie worked out alright.

I was so depressed when the Cardinals traded Hernandez that I ate a bag of powder doughnuts to try to cheer up. I was sick to my stomach, but not because of the doughnuts.

Don't care How.......Just glad the deal went through.

YOU LIVED UP TO OUR EXPECTATION KEITH! LGM

@williammorrissey874

2 жыл бұрын

The best leader the mets ever had a natural leader

Hernandez belongs in Cooperstown!

When he went from St. Louis to New York, i wouldn't have helped him move.

Keith got the last laugh!!! Won in 1986 with the Mets…THOSE Cards never win a WS again…PS…watch Jack Clark’s ridiculous error in Game 6 of the 9th inning of the 1985 WS…I guarantee Keith makes that play!!!!

@82drumhead

Ай бұрын

Yeah they won 2 more after that actually....and 6 more NL titles. The Mets have never won another WS title after 86, so not sure what you are talking about saying they never won another WS again.

@scottross4374

Ай бұрын

@@82drumhead I said THOSE Cardinal teams (ie the Whitey Herzog 80s teams)

The fact of the matter is that Herzog asked for and was given permission by the owner to trade Keith because he was using cocaine.

The same GM who moved Steve Carlton?

@user-ou3dm6th3x

2 ай бұрын

Bing Devine was the GM who traded Carlton. It was a directive straight from Gussie Busch. Carlton wanted a $5k raise after going 20-9 in 1971 and Busch refused. The negotiations got heated and words were exchanged and one thing led to another. Trading Carlton probably cost the Cardinals many division titles and possibly a championship or 2. Carlton went 27-10 in ‘72. The Cardinals lost the division by 1 game that year. Joe McDonald was the GM when Hernandez was traded.

It was only briefly alluded to, but his massive cocaine habit at the time probably had a lot to do with the trade.

Whitey Herzog probably saw Keith as competition. Maybe Whitey thought that someday Keith would be a manager and take his job because he was personable and good looking. People in charge are always threatened by that. Keith would have made a great manager too. If Buck Showalter could manage why not Keith. But, Keith was offered the announcing job right after retiring. So, he took that nice paying easy job. Don't blame him. But, him managing would have been GREAT.

@richardlicht7927

11 ай бұрын

Herzog had Hernandez traded because of Keith's connection with the MLB cocaine scandal back then.

@natalliaf6387

10 ай бұрын

you've obviously never met Whitey Herzog.

@DudeMannn

10 ай бұрын

@@natalliaf6387 Keith even said on this video that Whitey did not like him. Watch the video again. So why are you questioning my first comment. LOL !!!

Would he have a successful broadcasting career if he never got traded. Perhaps.

The last ballplayer to almost hit .400.

@mysocalledknife07

11 ай бұрын

wut??

Bonehead move by Herzog

@natalliaf6387

10 ай бұрын

he made it to the WS 2 of the next 4 years with lousy teams.