Steve is a true musicphile. I never ever expected to hear him mention Aphex Twin, I'm more used to hearing him talk about Chesky recordings or Neil Young but clearly this guy just loves music!

@hgrising9387

3 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly bro...

@acidbubbles419

3 жыл бұрын

yeah because people never talk about AFX lol

@JBLClassic

3 жыл бұрын

@@acidbubbles419 in the context of audiophile systems and KZreadrs, probably not. In other circles, potentially.

Great and simple , appreciate the review Steve, I know dealer here in metro Detroit that started carrying KEF, I've had a chance to hear the KC 62 , I actually took it out of the box for him and hooked it up I was highly impressed, stayed there most the afternoon listening to music switching between the LS 50s , R series KEF ( out of my budget lol) and KEF Q350s all with that sub I enjoyed it. So awesome review man always enjoy your spin on products 👍🏾👍🏾💯💯

I love the way you are able to put audio concepts into words... like trying to describe the presence of the subwoofer as adding a "textural" element to the sound. That works for me!

Had been waiting for this one since buying my LS50WII a week ago. Thanks Steve :)

@sukruyildizel422

3 жыл бұрын

are you happy with LS50WII? I am also planning to buy one. Do you think they need a subwoofer or OK on their own for bass?

@hvbris1

2 жыл бұрын

@@sukruyildizel422 I've got a pair of LS50WIIs and love love love them. Tempted to get the KC62, but not convinced I need it. The LS50s sounds very clear, sharp, and clean to my ears. Quality of sound over quantity for me.

Thank you! You're born for this.

A dedicated, high quality subwoofer can make a night and day difference to your music system, especially with monitors. I am really looking forward to testing this one!

I've been eager for this review.

OMG, just a week ago, I was just admiring the looks of Graham Audio LS6. Looking forward to this review.

I enthusiasm is contagious. Thanks

Steve that speaker level input block's trade name is a "Phoenix connector". Truly dig the ingenuity of the coaxial voice coil, fascinating.

Diggin' that new shirt! The sub sounds like a winner, too.

I have just purchased a KEF KC62 to use with my ATC SCM40 speakers and the difference is stunning! As Steve says, it just just vanishes and integrates perfectly and Bass Extension is absolutely astounding! To add to the above. I have just purchased a second KEF KC62 and am now fronting my ATC SCM40s with a pair of these beauties! Can I say WOW! The extension is fantastic, have got the cut off set at 50hz which is just right for the ATCs.

I'm so happy that KEF is rolling up their sleeves with the new Uni technology

Thanks Steve. Loved the review. Completely made me laugh discussing the connection options. Definitely agree.

I love small subs for music. I use a pair of 5.25” sub running stereo. It literally can go down to 35hz but without being boomy, more of a “musical” bass that integrates well with music. I’m more into near/midfield listening.

Love the review and love the shirt! I want a pair of these with the Wireless 2 - could be a really Nice combo

. . . always liked your honesty and naturalness, Steve . . . YOU 'da man.

Thanks Steve. How they combined both drivers into a single motor system with overlapping, concentrically arranged voice coils is very innovative IMO, though barely mentioned...Obviously not a big deal to Steve, 😆 I think it’s really cool! I haven’t had the pleasure of being exposed to all the tech Steve has reviewed.

very innovative design, with the concentric voice coils. very cool

I’ve just bought one and using with Sonus Faber Sonetto V and it’s made a huge difference- absolutely recommend it 👍🏼

Thank you VM for recommending Mr.Robot (vol 3) :) to use with subwoofers. This music was ideal for tuning my homebrew a/d/s 7" powered sub with a pair of a/d/s L300Cs hooked up to an Olasonic Nano-UA1 Integrated amp. Your advice to not have the SW standout wrt the speakers it's supporting was quite excellent.

Lovely video and awesome shirt!

My REL Stadium 2 Sub with speaker level inputs is still to this day the absolute finest sounding Sub that was designed for music reproduction by REL. No sub has ever come anywhere near it for pure sound quality and it's 20 years old! A beautiful real wood behemoth of a piece of furnature.

Very nice review Steve. May I add? As you know, I am the Martin Logan guy, and even thought the bass modules go down to 25Hz. I was wanting a subwoofer for the deep pedal notes on pipe organ recordings AND the orchestral bass drum without having to turn up the bass control on the Parasound P6 - 2.1.. So, back to my BRICK AND MORTAR store for the Martin Logan 1600X. This has complete control from phone or tablet, along with room correction by Anthem. I am waiting for the 'bass kit' which will involve software for the laptop. You plug directly into the subwoofer and up to TEN listening areas are measured. I am using this for 2 CH stereo only with the ESL 9's. Just the basic settings I have used, including setting the LPF at 35 Hz. has worked VERY nicely for all kinds of music. So yes, a subwoofer need NOT be for theater use only (O:

My bet is the revised Blade series will have this technology on their side firing woofers! Excellent

@parkermackenzie9848

2 жыл бұрын

I noticed Stereophile removed the Blade 2s from the Class A reccomended speakers. It's as if they want to give KEF that kick in the butt to deliver this new tech!

@Ba09035

2 жыл бұрын

@@parkermackenzie9848 Have a look at Vivid Audio's Kaya line and see how they also mount the woofer modules. Very similar!

Thanks so much. Get two subs but that is for dramtically reducing the nodes that result from standing waves. Big effect. And maybe the best way to make the low frequencys work correctly in you room.

Love the KC62 with my LS50s for music and home theater.

Bought a pair, absolutely satisfied amazing subs! It seems that KEF is a fan of BW's PV1. Their mantra seems to have been how can we make these even smaller and maintain or improve its qualities? Well they met their goal in spades. The KC62 is as clean, as loud and goes as low if not lower than the PV1 in a form factor about 40% smaller, unbelievable. Fabulous! BTW for best results for music music in particular you would be well advised to use 2.

@stephengarratt5076

2 жыл бұрын

I purchased one last week and was so blown away as to how such a big beautiful sound can come from something so small that today, I received a second one and that really made the difference! We know that sub bass is omnidirectional but stereo subs is the true way to go, An audiophile friend visited this afternoon and he was blown away by an organ CD that I played him. You could FEEL some of the bottom register of the big pipes!

i agree get a sub properly level and phase matched.they do blend well with your mains.

100% nailed on Steve. I was a small room sceptic and then bought a KC62 (before I even saw this) and wow does it open my stand mounts up. I guess it takes all the heavy lifting away from the mid range drivers because they just sings with it in place. It ain't just about the thump. That said, I wouldn't have bought it if it meant constant fidget to get the sweet spot. DSP / Room correction or in my case Lygndorf TDAI means I can control and change all the variables from the listening position in real time. God, what an age we live in.

Love the shirt and I love my KRIX sub woofer for movies and music.. yep I love the floor and wall rumble in movies

That is the best subwoofer I ever heard for sure 👌

Sounds like a great product for the size. Plus my parent wouldn’t absolutely hate it’s look or footprint.

@justsaying993

3 жыл бұрын

Just don't tell them the price lol

@frederickhardman3389

3 жыл бұрын

@@justsaying993 I never do

@justsaying993

3 жыл бұрын

@@frederickhardman3389 😂

I'm going to soon be in the market for a new sub, this one seems to hit all the hot buttons for me: size and blending. I live in a high rise condo and run a pair of Ohm 2000 Talls. A unit that takes up less real estate in the living room is exactly what I want/need. With any luck they will match well.

Hey Steve, I’ve been watching your channel for years buy you opened my eyes today by saying you listen to Aphex Twin. I’m pleased about that as I now know you don’t just test with classical or jazz 😂. Anyhow, have you tried funki porcini ?

No surprise, love that shirt Steve. Made chuckle just to look at all those guitars.

@brendancarbone7621

3 жыл бұрын

Keith! Love that you're around here. Need a rundown of your fww hifi setup

@somsci

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Steve, would this be worth a try with maggies? I know u don’t like subs with magnepan but they managed blending cone speakers with their 30.7 for condos, right? I guess those were open baffle.

@dugenounonplie8162

3 жыл бұрын

Earbuds for Kef M400 250 euros for a pair of earbuds in replacement, for headphones bought new 50 euros (original price of the headphone 250 euros, or the price of this spare part), while the leatherette is very thin and quickly detaches itself? I expected about ten euros, which I usually put in the competing models. 25 euros would have seemed very expensive, too expensive considering the poor quality, but 250 euros (240 Pounds) is unfortunately not a joke, but an incredible bullshit and a deliberate merchant choice that corresponds to wear and tear. I have always been faithful to the Kef brand for 40 years, but I understand that we are actually taken for pigeons, frankly it is like urinating on us. Fortunately Kef is not a car manufacturer, he would sell the 4 tires at the same price as the new car! Also, we notice that the construction of these earpieces does not correspond to what they seem to be, that is to say a natural rubber of good thickness to withstand time. In short, a good sound quality, but of the whole issue manufacturing, and a sales policy that is obvious robbery.

Nice report, Sir. Thank you for the video.

Thank you for the review and the Mac Quayle Mr. Robot & Aphex Twins references. Cheers from Charlotte, NC :o)

Bought a pair, absolutely satisfied amazing subs! It seems that KEF is a fan of BW's PV1. Their mantra seems to have been how can we make these even smaller and maintain or improve its qualities? Well they met their goal in spades. The KC62 is as clean, as loud and goes as low if not lower than the PV1 in a form factor about 40% smaller, unbelievable. Fabulous! BTW for best results for music music in particular you would be well advised to use 2. Now, if KEF could put a diamond tweeter on the LS50.....🤯

@stephengarratt5076

2 жыл бұрын

I bought one last week and this week I bought a second and that really made a difference! For music, stereo subs are the way to go,

A tiny collection of headphones :-) Thanx for review!

Sean mentioned that you hog first dibs for these reviews. 🤣Now that you are done, looking forward to hear opinions from Sean, Ron and Thomas. 👍 Thanks for this review. But like others commented, need a little more details.

Great music examples (Aphex, Thin red line)! Makes me understand it well.

Cool little subs! I'd be tempted if I didn't already have a pair of JL Audio e110s, in stereo of course. Thin Red Line is definitely a demo disc. Try Kraftwerk Minimum/Maximum for some floor shaking jollies.

Don't lie Steve, you're all about that electronic music and I love it!

Thanks Steve. For that price would hope so. I will look for your input on Dayton Monoprice Hsu 500 or below

LOVE that shirt!!!

Try to listen to some of Yello's music Steve. I sat and listened 2 hours to subsonic orgasms. Holy cow KC 62 is gonna be my next subwoofer. I have never heard a sub that agile and clean. It's your videos, that has done that I bought KEF LS 50W II, and now you steered me against this little wonder. Thanks so much .

My credibility detector kicked in at the mention of "stereo" subs. At least the 80 Hz parameter was mentioned. I use two matching subs (because I have them - bandpass enclosure type - and two sub outputs from my receiver), because they excite the room modes in different, complementary ways.

If matched with LS50 wireless, all the crossover settings (and also a high-pass filter for the mains) and gain can be controlled from the KEF app

When you mated the sub with the non-KEF speakers, did you change anything on the sub (crossover point, room location, etc)?

Awesome shirt!

Steve, thanks for your experience and expertise. Helps out immensely in the decision making process. I just purchased a PS Audio Sprout and a pair of Elac Uni-Fi 2.0 speakers. Any recommendations for a sub with this rig. I live in a apartment. I like my neighbors and don’t want to jeopardize that relationship but I’d like to hear some low frequencies with all that space you’ve discussed. Thanks in advance and all the best.

Aphex Twin SAW II is one of my favorite albums of all time.

Best shirt EVER!

i been thinking of this sub since i heard first about it a few weeks ago. wish it had more eq features and options, and more upper frequency range to work with. a remote is a must. and some specs are missing, like signal processing delay.

Thanks Steve. Hmm, I'm tempted. One of these or two RELs - if you had to choose which way would you go?

It would be nice to know how it compares to a REL...

@allwayzactive4599

4 ай бұрын

It better than the Rel but the Rel is warmer and better dynamics but doesn't integrate like the kef

Great descriptive language, Steve.

A comparison to the Rels would have been useful

@rushgush

3 жыл бұрын

rel doesn’t have a dual opposed subwoofer with 6.5 inch drivers to compare it too 🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻

@rushgush

3 жыл бұрын

@Sebastian Tomita ok go compare a civic to a ferrari, or compare a tractor to a truck....🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻

@rushgush

3 жыл бұрын

@Sebastian Tomita u can’t compare products unless they are the same. u don’t compare 24 inch subwoofer to a 10 inch sub. it’s redundant and makes little sense. what don’t u get?

@rushgush

3 жыл бұрын

@Sebastian Tomita so by your logic we should compare cars just because the hp is the same? wtf......

@lpeterson4550

3 жыл бұрын

Its helpful to have references, and normally Steve provides them. The t9i is a pretty relevant comparison as it is priced similarly, has a good reputation, actually has larger driver area, but a less impressive spec sheet. Even the t7i is relevant because Steve has a pair and knows them well The whole point of watching to one of Steve's videos is to get what you can't get from the spec sheet and the company promo videos, and I didn't get that from this video.

Super. Thanks for the first insight review. I was always waiting for the sub to be paired with the KEF LS50 Wireless and now we have it and its in the basket.

I think you missed a trick with the RCAs, the high pass filter. Connecting the line outs onwards to the stereo speakers allows the subwoofer to filter out the low frequencies those speakers may not be able to do properly. I'm considering this subwoofer for that feature (and yes, to go with my LS50s). Source -> Preamp -> KC62 -> Poweramp -> LS50s

@StewartMarkley

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely correct. If a sub has a HPF it is a true crossover if you send the HPF out to the main speakers. Steve isn't even hearing the best sound that this system can provide. A major flub in this review.

@ctbarker321

3 жыл бұрын

@@StewartMarkley Check out the new channel "DIY HiFi Life" and the video about using subs with the Magnepan LRS.

@JBrm

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe his preamp can do crossover on the outputs? Also, he set the sub crossover really low at 50 Hz, so even if the LRs are not high passed it will work out fone with small speakers.

I hope you're able to review the KF92 one day.

Really enjoy your reviews. So i am interested in this sub for my Graham LS6. You mention it is seamless implementation. But may i ask how well this sub specifically went with the LS6 ?

Of course I must have it:) even though I have two other subs

Hey @Steve_Guttenberg_Audiophiliac how do you feel about using a high-pass filter with subs? So instead of crossing the sub where the bookshelf naturally rolls off, what about introducing a high pass to completely cut those low-tones from the small bookshelves and have the sub handle everything under say 80hz. I've heard this can negatively effect voicing of the bookshelf, do you have an opinion here?

Great shirt on Steve. The underlying graphics reminds me of Peter Max. This is not a cheap subwoofer @ $1500. Not sure if the Rel T7i is the rough equivalent but it’s $500 cheaper. Aesthetically though the KEF has my vote.

That speaker level block is a real pain alright. Bare 16 gauge wire just barely fits in so forget about thicker cables. What I did was to use angled speaker pins to make it easier.

Hey Steve, what is your take on the HEDD headphones? Have you heard them and what did you think. How about trying a Merrill-Williams REAL 104.2 turntable?

Love your channel. I've got an old amp. NAD C370. If I wanted to add a sub could I just add it to the Speaker B output or would the Preout 1 or 2 be possible or better.

I would have thought Steve it'd be best against the wall between the two speakers getting some base reinforcement there as well

Love the term "sub woofing".

Awesome review as always! Do you think KC62 would do equally well with larger floor standing speakers like Ohm 3000's which has a 10" driver? Or is better to stay with subs that have 10-12" drivers that are designed to perform best in the 20 to 40hz range?

@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac

3 жыл бұрын

Right, stick with larger subs OK

@almcgowan5289

3 жыл бұрын

@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Thanks btw I bought the Ohms last year based on your review and my room requirements. Love, love, them! Paired it with NAD M33. Super happy, love your channel. Many thanks!

Well, how does it compare to the RELs? What was nicely described could be achieved with various sub brands. Thanks

Hiya Steve! I think you sold me an Audible Illusions, back in the day. Quick question: have you tried these with P3ESRs? I'm running them, desktop, with a Benchmark stack and a REL. I'm looking for a sub with an HPF, to give the Harbeths a bit of relief in the upper bass. That and the smaller size (and deeper output?) than the REL, makes this tempting. Your thoughts?

Thank you, Steve! I’d like to ask you, how would this sub work with Kef R3s? They got good bass..

Love the guitar shirt!

As a dealer the KEF subs are far and above its competitors; They are a Tier 1 manufacturer and build everything in their own factories, the DSP they employ is outstanding! Comparisons to others are not what this review is about.

The obvious comparison is the B&W PV1D...the "bowling ball sub". Similar in most repects, also pricey and feature packed. How do they stack up against one another? Inquiring minds want to know!

@steveguttenbergaudiophiliac What TOOK me so long?? I've been tuning into your great reviews here for years and I JUST subscribed ! This KEF KC62 . . . first, 11 hz is not audible to us mere mortals so whether KEF is making that number up is purely academic anyway but it's hard to reconcile that number considering the size of the KC62. The Dynaudio Heritage Special is SUCH a beautifully balanced speaker according to your recent review. Did the KC62 in ANY WAY mess with the Heritage's sound and how does the KC62 measure up to any REL that you've played with?

Steve these blocks are one of the best ways to get a solid connection, but you gotta be proficient in making your own cables. They called phoenix terminals

Hello Steve, how would you compare this sub to the JL Audio E110 sub? I know you reviewed the E110 years ago and thought highly of it. I recently ordered a JL E110 to go with an Anthem amplifier and was wondering your thoughts on the JL E100 compared to the KEF KC62 in this day and age?

I want my subwoofer to do it’s proper sub woofing!

Where'd you get that guitar shirt? Great shirt, only in the city, right? Do you put lights on that tree, behind you . . . at Christmas? Never saw so many headphones in one place. I'd have to listen to music, constantly for the rest of my life, including sleep time, to hear them all! 🤓! . . .

Looks great!.... cool design inside as well

A sub might sound ''right'' with ambient, soundtrack or sweeping classical music. The true test is with music that has a fast paced rhythm/beat. That's where I could never get my REL T-Zero sub to disappear and why I ended up selling it out of frustration. At the beginning of this review I got excited and was already contemplating getting one until I noticed what your demo tracks were.

@RiseFall123

2 жыл бұрын

I have this issue with all my “modern” setup, not only with subs. While, classic, jazz, acoustic, sounds excellent.

Hi Steve, can you flesh out your comments a little on the sub setting in regards to when used with the LS50? You mentioned 50 or 60 Hz was what you were going between, and funny enough I find myself stuck between these exact two cut off points. I’m going a little crazy as I keep changing it back and forth. I hear it but don’t know which one? If you are able, please explain what is making me jump up back and forth, and if there’s one more “optimal setting” than the other between these two? I’m using my LS50s with the Kef Reference R400b sub. Please help. Thank you.

@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac

3 жыл бұрын

I’d like to help, but please understand there is no clear-cut answer to this question. So many factors are in play: the size of your room, the distance of the subwoofer to the wall or corner. The distance between the speakers and the subwoofer

I've had actual L/R stereo subs in the past.... currently I have dual mono subs (which seems fine). Did you really mean "stereo" or just shorthand for two?

Did you test with a system that utilizes bass management or were the main's supplied a full range signal with the sub complimenting?

You were a real trooper leting Cheapaudioman roast you like that Steve, kudos to not taking yourself too seriously man! Sooooo, is there any real sonic difference between a sub for music and a sub for HT? Seems theres muich controversy behind the subject as stark reality tends to show its just marketing and no real difference. Thoughts??

Have you tried it with Maggies yet?

Oh cool another sub review, maybe i can save of for this! *1400 pounds in uk* O.O

@Steve Guttenberg I thought to ask you when I saw your LS50 Meta review about what about to use them with a subwofer. At the end of the video you commented it. Now we have here the KC62. Now I have another question to you... What do you think about the KEF KC62 compared with Rel?

I hope the fact that review models are going out means this sub will make it to consumers soon.

@lpeterson4550

3 жыл бұрын

My local shop is getting several next week... so yeah soon

@jimkyle571

3 жыл бұрын

@@lpeterson4550 How about LS50WIIs in white? I’ve got a set of those on order, too.

Adding a REL Q400 2 years ago (specified at 30 Kg net nude! really, a two man lift (or you can walk it on it's corners ..as one does) & gr8 con' so a very successful (for a change!) eBay buy at a 1/3'ish £350 vs £1000 when new but at least 15 or maybe up to 20? years old now, working fine but I guess subs are probably much better now for a much lower price. It's ran from Amp's speaker posts as Rel recommends in user manual. At once when it was properly dialed in, phased & neccessarily placed to rear & side of my right speaker, nearly fully in a corner but pulled out 4 to 6 inches i.e. as much as I dare without getting nagged (no other practicle choice, & I'm told corner placement is the worst place for a sub). But what really surprised me most was getting a sense of the concert hall size in orchestral & smaller chamber orchestra from vinyl recordings as always... (my CD's are kept in the car now, once in a while I'll fancy hearing one & fetch it in) ...esp' on recordings done in the larger concert halls. Even cellos of quartets recorded wherever came more alive with their woody low resonance giving them more "body" & a physical like presence. And my Tannoy 15" M.Golds are not particular bass shy but surely lack something below my aprox 55 - 60Hz setting point. With rock & pop ...yeah, ok & sometimes 'meh' but I'm enjoying classical music & unplugged bands, accoustic stuff like never before the sub's addition. I could just fit 2 of these small KEF subs next to & a bit back from each speaker. That's not going to happen fast less I win the lottery I never do🤪

How does the KC62 compare with the REl T-zero; my money would be on the latter?

That headphone tree behind you is crazy! How do you choose which one's to use?

@RennieAsh

3 жыл бұрын

You spin around and reach out your hand with your eyes closed ;p

Are you able to control EQ modes through the app? Also can the kef do high passs filtering from the app with an other brand of speakers or not? Its not clear

I wonder how to optimize it with my LSX IIs on my desk, Steve?

11hz that’s freaking crazy what db is that at ? I’ve seen a lot of reviews on this sub and one said this is only a musical sub that for movies and home theater it just didn’t have it . That it distorted at higher volumes with heavy bass props to kef though game changer

I’m curious what would be the largest room you would feel comfortable using this sub?