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@OutdoorPrep

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Tom. Appreciate it ATB 🙏

Interesting test, very good point on the toes, As for sizes Rab down slippers in x/l I can’t get my foot in as the opening elastic is to tight but the Rab cirrus slippers (synthetic )have a great bit of elastic so I can get them on, I am a 12 Wish more thought had been put into the down slippers . Thanks for sharing

@OutdoorPrep

2 жыл бұрын

Ah yes I can see how that would be a problem. Maybe those North Face ones? I use them at home too 🤓

Hi Rob. Good video thanks. The issue I have found with all these down booties is always the lack of down in the toe box. Synthetic of course doesn’t have this problem but I find they are not insulating enough in really cold temps. The best And most packable I have used are Ex Ped they have 700+ fill but again the down can thin out at the toe end. If i find my toes getting cold I usually put some hand warmers into them and that solves the problem!

@OutdoorPrep

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Gary. Yes I’m planning on bringing a bunch of hand warmers with me too. I don’t know why they don’t put more down in the toe box. Have you noticed a cold spot there?

@garynesbitt5078

2 жыл бұрын

Yes definitely its best to size up on these if you can so the end of your feet aren’t compressing the down against the outer shell. Exped used to sell a lightweight waterproof outer boot also which you could put fully over the down sock and use outside. Good luck with your search for something that works well for you!

@mastercarpenterltd

Жыл бұрын

@@garynesbitt5078 I'm currently trying to decide between the rabs and the expeds, can you advise? (Its only for uk hill/ mountain winter camping).

@garynesbitt5078

Жыл бұрын

@@mastercarpenterltd hi mark. I actually own both so hopefully can help. The rab are definitely warmer at 800 fp goose down. From memory the exped are 700p duck down. Both are very similar weight. The exped in my opinion are a better design in terms of the fit with the ankle elastic and top collar elastic. The rab just have a top draw cord. There is also a good difference in price with the exped being considerably cheaper. The key to both is fit. Too tight and your foot (toe’s especially) will compress the down. I’d err on the side of more room in them than less. Unless you are using in very cold temps, the exped are a great option and value for money I’d lean toward them. Hopefully this helps. Gary

@artysa.blackwood4261

8 ай бұрын

Try the montbells, they are overstuffed to hell, mittens are the same, they are so overstuffed you can barely compress the down.

Simply put sock inside the boot…doubles up warmth and fills up toe problem…exped do down socks/booties, 1/2 price of tabs versions, but rab boot is for polar extremities…goes well with sallpettes…booties I’m gonna use’m for outside winter cycling boots…with an outer keep them dry

@OutdoorPrep

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the exped ones look nice but they don’t have sizes large enough for me unfortunately. Have fun on your cycling trip 💪🏼

As a non mountaineer but winter camper ounces don't matter as much as durability and effectiveness. I use thick wool liners in my boots and just bring an extra pair to wear inside the sleeping bag while the used ones are inside (the sleeping bad also) to dry out. With wool you'll never have the problem with down shifting and cold spots. A little heavier but so much more durable. Equally warm

@OutdoorPrep

Жыл бұрын

That absolutely works inside of a sleeping bag. It’s indeed a bit heavier but as you mentioned, insulates regardless of conditions 🙏

Hello from Vorarlberg 🇦🇹 Carinthia does a version and snugpak as well but they are not down. 😅 You could buy the French army version and they are real down for around 40€ 🤔 Kind regards Leopold 🤗

@OutdoorPrep

Жыл бұрын

Hi Leopold - Thanks for these great suggestions!

Check out Western Mountaineering. Not sure if they are sold outside of US, but all the down products are great

@OutdoorPrep

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the recommendation. I'll check them out!

@JulienKozak

6 ай бұрын

I had the same problem with these, not enough insulation for me. @@OutdoorPrep

Hi Rob! You said in a comment that you dont like Hilleberg Rogen. What is your reservations abouth that tent in particular? :) Thanks for a great channel by the way.

@OutdoorPrep

2 жыл бұрын

The Rogen is great on paper. I've bought and returned two, and inspected a 3rd one in a store. The ones I've looked at had a few issues. What it came down to is that the inner tent was too tight, because of that, floating in air a bit, and the width did not exceed 110cm, and it should have been 130cm->120cm. This also had a negative effect on the length of the tent. If you know what to look for, you also can see it on many other photos of people that have not even noticed perhaps. So in short: inspect and measure properly when you get the tent, if that's the one you really want to get. Hope this helps.

@rikardhellkvist7529

2 жыл бұрын

Ok great! Thanks for the reply. Now I understand your reservations about the tent.

I know the video is old, but i recently started buying some montbell gear, and got their expedition mittens, and they are overstuffed to hell, so overstuffed you can barely compress them, good price on their gear too. For the booties, sizing is on the small size, the largest one is L and max its a 10us shoe size. They sell over booties shells to, called Tent Shoe Covers. Goosefeetgear is another brand that sell both thing, booties and over booties, they do custom filling so you can overstuff them, but have 0 experience in any gear of this brand.

@OutdoorPrep

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for this 🙏 I’ll check it out And it’s not THAT old 😅😉 Cheers

I have the same problem. I cannot find down booties that would fit my size 48 uk 12.5 us 13.5 feet. A Dutch company named Lowland makes a pair but they are quite heavy. I opted for the Montane Prism Booties. They haven't arrived yet. But where are you going? The north Pole?

@OutdoorPrep

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha well I have cold feet while at home, with heated floors and in the summer 🤷🏻‍♂️ Maybe one day to the North Pole, for now Sweden in Winter and EBC 🙌🏼