Kart-It: How to Install a Mikuni Carburetor on a Predator 212
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In this episode of Kart-It, we install a Mikuni 22mm carburetor on our minibike using GoPowerSports.com's intake manifold adapter. We show you step by step how to bolt on this quick and easy solution to get better throttle response and a little more power out of your 212 before internal upgrades. The install takes around 10-20 minutes and you'll be on your way.
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just installed on my XP cart . easy and well worth it. definitely noticed a power improvement
sweet mod man. I think im going to keep the stock one on my mini bike. also congrats on 500 subs!
Not really an issue here, but common practice to remove a stud without damaging it is to thread two nuts onto the end and tighten them against each other. You can usually then turn the inner nut with a wrench and the stud will come out.
@xptics
4 ай бұрын
i had to put a ratchet with a 10mm on the outer nut and a 10 mm wrench on the inner nut
thanks soo much I'm going to buy the kit when I'm finished building my motorized drift trike 👍
Mine needed a lot of tuning. Since I'm running mine on a boat/mud motor I had to use a bigger jets all around because water is 800 times as dense as air.
@derrickspeedjr6433
6 жыл бұрын
Black Warrior Lures mine want start is it because it need tuning
I wanna see a rematch after Mr. Kart fab puts one on bronda
The song gives me such memories from when I was 11
Just placed an order for two of these. One for my Manco Thunderbird and one for my custom chopper. Looking forward to installing them.
@TheShangralaaaa17
7 жыл бұрын
Nuvey you spend $200 on mini bike carbs? yikes
@802offroadmowers9
3 жыл бұрын
I hope you bought jet kits for them as well
What length are all of the mounting bolts? My kit didn't come with any mounting hardware.
do these help with acceleration because i bought a new frame with a torque converter form my predator and it accelerates just as fast as did with a clutch but its only at half rpm before i have to let off because i run out room in my neighborhood.
I have upgraded nothing on my 212 predator i was wondering what notch should i put the pin on i dont want to blow my cam shaft
CORRECTION! Thats NOT a 22mm carb! its a model #VM22 which is actually a 26mm carb!
@07scoobywrx
6 жыл бұрын
Metalman 329 it has a 22mm slide the the intake side of the carb is 26mm (the part that bolts to the intake manifold
Can you tell me where to go to get that Carb and the correct throttle cable please? I have a Doodlebug frame if this matters. Thank you.
Will these bolt up to a 212cc power horse motor? Looks the same as a predator, besides the color being blue. I'm thinking it will, but would like to know for sure.
I noticed that you did not use any gaskets for the carb or intake... is this ok? Thanks!
Nice
What did you do with the timing key ?? Mine has one and I’m trying to put a mikinu on it but idk what to do
Does anywhere sell a Angled intake manifold adaptor that points the assembly back so when the bike falls the air filter and carb dont break on the ground?
Do you have to remove the governor
can a Mikuni carburetor be installed on a 301 CC predator if so what size
what do I do with the governor on the motor?
Will this carb work better than backing the throttle screw out?
What size of throttle cable are you using
how does the little plunger work?
Will this work on my 5 horse Briggs
What size jet are you using?
What kind off carburitor use may engine is 5.6 hpr kembo
What is the best throttle cable for this carburetor
Where did u get ur fuel filter
Isn’t that only a 22mm the stock one is 24 mm and also isn’t the Pz27 a good option as well!
Well after watching now i know i forgot to buy the throttle cable
Should also note that this mod is more directed towards governor deleted engines
@MateoMartinez-Good
9 ай бұрын
Only governor deleted engines
How do you determine the size carb for your engine?
@christianmccollum1028
2 жыл бұрын
Carb throat (22mm Mikuni) should be just smaller than the valve diameter. In this case (assuming it's a 1st generation Predator212) it has 25mm intake valves. If it were a Hemi with 27mm intake valves, I'd go with a 26 mm carb. Just my 2 cents.
What did you get to Willie bar from
So what happens to the choke?
Installed! Now what about the linkage junk atop the engine now. Is it effectively disabled? So i can just get rid of it? I don't want to go into the crankcase. Thanks.
@six8271
4 жыл бұрын
guitaristinseattle what did you do ? And how did it work out for you?
What bout all the springs between the gas tank and the pulley that's connected to the carb
@TomGlander
6 жыл бұрын
Don't need the stock springs. They only work with the stock carburetor. The Mikuni has one spring that sits on top of the slide. Very easy and much more efficient.
how can i get gopowersports postage cheaper? I went to order this carb and the postage was $200. Im from Australia
What size jet do you have in mikuni?
So where did the governor linkage go
If you take off the factory linkage do you have to take out the governor
@zam893
4 жыл бұрын
No
@mattpearce4313
3 жыл бұрын
I would argue yes. If the governor is bypassed (by taking off factory linkage) then the plastic governor will be spinning too fast inside the crankcase and could break. That could really ruin a day
so are they for sale yet
When add a MIKUNI 22 mm carb upgrade, and you remove that plastic governor gear out of the engine case along with the governor armature up to where the throttle linkage used to be..do you really have to replace the carb jets and other parts along with the engine valves ? or can i just bolt on the Mikuni 22 mm carb without the governor and just run the Predator 212 as a stock engine without the governor gear slowing it down?
@KartItofficial
6 жыл бұрын
Removing the gear is a precaution. After bypassing the governor, if you leave the gear in, you risk the possibility of the gear coming apart at higher RPMs. You can leave it in, but it’s just one less thing to worry about if you remove it and it’s really easy to do. You can bolt the Mikuni on a stock predator and run it without upgrading anything, but the valves will float at higher rpm, but for a non-racing application you will be fine with a stock motor with the Mikuni.
@oldguyjohnretrolifestyle9281
6 жыл бұрын
Well even if the governor gear is removed, and the gear arm to the linkage plate (also removed,as that linkage plate wont be needed in favor for the Mikuni's throttle setup), will i need to buy the better quality valve springs for the higher RPM performance ? the stock engine valve springs and the stock MIKUNI 22mm metering jets will not need to be upgraded ? that will certainly help keep the parts cost down ;)
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4 years late but can I use this kit you linked in the description and install it on my coleman CT200 - EX ?
@jagman2962
2 жыл бұрын
Yes you can
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Would tbis carb add more top speed? If not what can i use for it to add top speed besides sprockets. Thankx
@ToddTerryActor
6 жыл бұрын
yes it would increase speed and much better execration
Could you identify the soundtrack?
What about the governor?
Studs left or right?
do you need a gasket in between the manifold and cylinder?
@4687878
6 жыл бұрын
I was going to ask that !! I didn't see a gasket between the manifold adapter and engine !!
@danbennett8026
2 жыл бұрын
I put one in between manifold an block an the carb has a rubber o-ring so you only need one.
Would the air filter be good enough in sandy/dirty areas?
@MateoMartinez-Good
9 ай бұрын
That’s kind of what it’s for right
I took my mikuni off to clean it and now no matter wat way I cock it, it still leaks from the rubber gasket. Is there a certain way to place it on adapter?
@ifreshd7499
4 жыл бұрын
Jokez Paine get a new gasket
That's the chinese clone of a mikuni, good carb but the japanese mikunis have bigger bodies.
@chaseeverett6310
3 жыл бұрын
minkuni is stamped japan.. there badged vm22 but they truly are a 20 mm this particular model mikuni kit comes as a early 2000 model for yamaha and Suzuki 110 trail and 50 cc to 125 cc youth models.. the newer mikunis are simply redesigned. if its stamped japan its genuine.. this seems to be something most folks dont know but do your reasearch as i did and its evident
@Trains_n_stuff08
2 жыл бұрын
The the real vm22 mikuni is 150$ and the nock off mikuni carbs are only 60& to 90$
Governor still working ?
What kind of jets do I need for the 26mm version?
@802offroadmowers9
3 жыл бұрын
Depends on the carb and your setup
Where did those fuel vents go to?
@lilmockme8821
2 жыл бұрын
my question too
the Mikuni 22mm carb i got from Ebay has an *OFFSET 2 BOLT PATTERN MOUNTING HOLES* which did not come with the correct fitting manifold adapter to the Predator 212 engine-the adapter that came with the Mikuni carb being sold from Ebay for about $50.00 is curved and there is no way that curved intake adapter can work when it turns the carb's float bowl sideways,instead of the carb being right side up (vertical)-can you provide a link to where i can just order the correct Mikuni 22mm manifold adapter(its the short, straight manifold adapter) to the Predator 212 engine.without me having to buy the whole carburetor kit?
@KartItofficial
6 жыл бұрын
This is the adapter used in the video. www.gopowersports.com/manifold-for-mikuni-vm-22-with-gasket-48mm-long/
@oldguyjohnretrolifestyle9281
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you SOO MUCH ! i got just about everything put together and was about to thread in the bolts to mount the carb and saw the offset mount,im like...ever see when somebody is laying down model railroad track and at the end the tracks dont line up perfectly ? O.o same thing with offset intake manifolds....
@dinkermcplinker7324
5 жыл бұрын
Thats u you use to of those bends then it will
You got the Chinese version?
What size hardware do i use?
@machmoto1071
7 жыл бұрын
answer ASAP please
Quiet Riot-Mama Weer All Crazee Now 😉
Mikuni clone is all I run now. I used studs on mine. Hey, did you use a gasket on the manifold?
@KartItofficial
7 жыл бұрын
Black Warrior Lures Yes. The Mikuni has the o-ring on the carb. And then just a standard predator intake gasket on the back. The thin one that is usually behind the plastic intake manifold plate.
@BlackWarriorLures
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah the thin paper one is what I used as well. I had to use RTV because, well, I think there was a microscopic gap between the manifold and the cylinder head.
@KartItofficial
7 жыл бұрын
Black Warrior Lures I just know it runs 100% better with this mod. More reliable start and throttle response. Much smoother all around.
@BlackWarriorLures
7 жыл бұрын
I agree. The direct throttle cable alone is worth it. I've never driven a Ferrari or anything, but I imagine those kinds of cars to have the same kind of throttle response. It's obvious the stock throttle linkage was really meant for generators and such that are running at a constant RPM. For our purposes we really need much better throttle control. these round slides really do the best job.
@anmichall
7 жыл бұрын
yes . I was working on an adaptor for this combination and tried u-tub ... Best
what is the advantage to a mikuni carb?
@thejohn7821
5 жыл бұрын
a larger carb that can survive the punishment can intake more fuel and air for every cycle, creating more power.
could i use this for the 420 predator
@wvbartlett1
7 жыл бұрын
You can, but you may need to go to a bigger carb. Like a Mikuni VM24 or VM26.
What are the part numbers for the adaptor and throttle cable from GoPowerSports?
@KartItofficial
7 жыл бұрын
They aren't available yet. I will post links on this video when they are. They are letting me test out their kit before it's available. I will keep you posted!
@rednecklife-uu3je
7 жыл бұрын
Kart -It Are the power gains worth up grading from the stock carb? I can prob find everything on Ebay.
@rednecklife-uu3je
7 жыл бұрын
Kart -It Did you rejet the Main/pilot jets or raise the jet needle any? Thanks for any help.
@KartItofficial
7 жыл бұрын
+redneck4life887 To me, the smoother idle and throttle response is worth it alone. There is a noticeable power gain too. More noticeable than just your standard intake filter and exhaust header pipe mods. It starts much easier as well. Like I said in the video, it's my favorite mod so far. I've always hated the stock throttle setup on these engines because it wasn't very smooth and was part of the reason the bike was hard to control. It would just take off whenever the throttle would finally break open instead of letting me feather in the throttle. This is all because the throttle cable is directly connected to the carb instead of having to go through all the linkages.
@rednecklife-uu3je
7 жыл бұрын
Kart -It Right on thank you for the all the help/info. I am building a engine for a dirt race kart and this is the way I want to go. Thanks again.
No breaks
Did you have to remove the governor for the bike to run right?
@trevormartin8922
Жыл бұрын
That's what I was wondering did you figure it out?
@ikev60
Жыл бұрын
I didnt have to when i installed the Chinese version mikuni. But when i bought the REAL Japanese version mikuni yes i had to remove the governor or else it wouldn't run right
You didn't have to tune the fuel/air ratio on the carb at all?
@KartItofficial
7 жыл бұрын
Don DeLaire It does run a little rich. No smoke, but you can hear some popping from the exhaust due to some amount of excess fuel. It doesn't flood however. I will be playing with jets later, but it runs great as is for now.
@Revdonlee74
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
do they make a carb adapter for the predator 420 ? cool mod by the way.
No tune ?
Whats the advantage of the Mikuni of a stock carb?
@KartItofficial
7 жыл бұрын
Michael'sMotors There's a few advantages. The better throttle response and control being one of the biggest. The cable directly connects to the slide on the carburetor and therefor you don't have any binding of linkages like you get sometimes with the stock style setup. Performance is the other big advantage. Out of the box you will feel a small power increase due to the added air and fuel volume the engine is able to take in. I also feel the engine fires and run smoothly due to more precisely metered fuel. Due to the nature of air and fuel mixtures through, certain applications may need more jet tuning to get it just right.
@miccytongobongo6065
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
Can anyone here help me out? I installed this carb on my 212 an now it idles up an when u hit the gas the engine just dies.
@ninecalyungin8107
3 жыл бұрын
Even tho it’s been 2 years the choke is on
@byronjones8246
3 жыл бұрын
@@ninecalyungin8107 lol it was I sorted it out.
what would happen if you put on a 30mm carb?
@KartItofficial
7 жыл бұрын
Bryce Glover Thats pretty large for this small of an engine. It doesn't move near enough air through the cylinder to support that large of a carb. It would probably start and run, but would bog down when you opened the throttle. Maybe a race style clone engine with head work and cam can support it. Also I believe the mounting flange is a different side when you go up to that size so you'd have to make an intake manifold adapter to mount it.
@bryceglover8161
7 жыл бұрын
ok cool thanks for the information
OMG I’m so autopsied I didn’t pull the stud rods out and thought I ordered the wrong piece and sent it back
Is the stock fuel line on my predator 212 long enough to reach the new place for it on the new carb? Or would I have to get a longer line/ reposition the tank?
@dontaviousmedina8040
7 жыл бұрын
its not long enough, youll need a longer line
@barrylopatic8543
7 жыл бұрын
Notice how he has a fuel filter. Put a new fuel filter at the end of your stock fuel hose, then put your new extension hose to reach your new carb on that.
No gasket?
@KartItofficial
7 жыл бұрын
A new gasket was installed on the engine side of the adapter. Just figured that was an obvious thing to do.
when r these goin to be available
@KartItofficial
7 жыл бұрын
Now! Complete Kit www.gopowersports.com/mikuni-vm-22-performance-kit/#aid=7723 Adapter Only www.gopowersports.com/manifold-for-mikuni-vm-22-with-gasket/#aid=7723
@inspireonex
7 жыл бұрын
Kart -It those product links are incorrect
@KartItofficial
7 жыл бұрын
How so?
@inspireonex
7 жыл бұрын
The link doesn't go to mikuni carb kit, it goes to a stock carb upgrade kit- I should know because I bought one
@inspireonex
7 жыл бұрын
The bottom link goes to a torque converter...
I need a wheelie bar, any thoughts?
@oldguyjohnretrolifestyle9281
6 жыл бұрын
Measure the length of drag bar you need and weld 2 barstock steel tubing with middle supports inbetween the wheeliebar frame, so the wheelie bar cant flex when that front wheel comes up, wheeliebar wheels for minibike can be almost anything from small metal rimmed kiddie training wheels (id rig those training wheels with bearing rings or sealed bearings from skateboard) to small diameter metal rim lawn mower wheels because those mower plastic wheels *will not hold up for long!*
@oldguyjohnretrolifestyle9281
6 жыл бұрын
Could use the electric scooter metal rimmed tires, scooter rims looking like this-electricscooterparts.com/electricpocketbikewheels.html,just about any small diameter steel or aluminum rims for a mini-bike wheelie bar can be made as long as they are not bigger than 12 inch to 16 inch bike rims
@oldguyjohnretrolifestyle9281
6 жыл бұрын
metal rim link issues, trying the link again-electricscooterparts.com/electricscooterwheels.html
Do i need to remove the govenor?
@dontaviousmedina8040
7 жыл бұрын
no
@thegarageinventor1735
7 жыл бұрын
i have installed one since my comment. It seems fine atm but at one point it didnt run right and leaked out of everywhere. I adjusted the screw under the intake of the carb and it runs great atm. I also made my own intake manifold instead from buying one for a ridiculous price.
@bobox6073
5 жыл бұрын
@@thegarageinventor1735 I just got a kite in from China and installed it on a on a predator 212cc it leaks everywhere from the intake were the air filter at . and it won't start at all have to spray starter fluid in there to get it started , don't know what's wrong with it . please help any one out there
@thegarageinventor1735
5 жыл бұрын
Bo Box what do you mean a kite? I need more information
Do i need the black adapter? Can't I just leave the black thing and the studs on there. Why don't people do that? Just a buy a mikuni carb take out the old one the old throttle and then leave the black thing thats behind the carb on there(maybe like drill the hole out to be bigger) and then just istalling the carb just like that. Like why remove the studs, why add an adapter? Why waste more money on an adapter. Buy the carb off of ebay for $20 bucks with an air filter and their. Don't get me wrong I would totally use the adapter because its easier and probably more reliable but I'm on a budget so I really don't have the money to buy the entire kit from go powersports, ect. Someone please let me know if its possible to do that? Thank you. Great Video.
@shawneliason790
7 жыл бұрын
Thats why its called an adapter.. it adapts the two different bolt patterns. it also brings the carb out where it clears.. and the carbs on ebay are knock offs.. they work but good luck rejetting them!
@jameswedige8515
6 жыл бұрын
Because the bolt spacing on the mikuni carb is bigger i believe it is 42mm on the block and 46mm on the carb.
hey, do you know that that Mikuni isn't original, it's 1:1 Chinese 20usd copy. And by the way, if I were you I wouldn't use that air filter
@josephkrause5290
7 жыл бұрын
robertas grigas that is true. it's a copy
Im stuck at the studs right or left?
Don't buy anything from Gopowersports as there is no service after sales and they are way over price compared to other parts suppliers!
The jetting and tuning is horrible these carbs are hit and miss
It appears that you were given a Chinese knockoff of a Mikuni carb. There are several Chinese fakes that are worthless. The ones offered from GPS are supposed to be ok. But take heed that many of the ones on ebay ect are bad. Pay a bit more for an actual REAL Japanese made Mikuni. They are way better.
@thomaswashburnjr2126
2 жыл бұрын
Have installed 2 knock offs... they were more than worth the 30 bucks!!! Immediate gains and better throttle response. I do recommend them 100% I wouldn't recommend ebay for anything however I myself find alternatives for all purchases.
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100 bucks for the carb, bettrr off just dogging the shit out of what u got and then get bigger displacement motor for the price.
Does anywhere sell a Angled intake manifold adaptor that points the assembly back so when the bike falls the air filter and carb dont break on the ground?
@robertcalaway4970
3 жыл бұрын
I made one for a Techumshe 6hp with some plate some pipe and some sloppy welding just have to be sure there are no leaks