Some commenters on here (no names) seem to think that this is derivative, copying Chopin. Well this concerto was composed seven years before Chopin's two, and Chopin dedicated his first concerto to Kalkbrenner. So who derived what from whom exactly?

@domenecgonzalezdelarubia3402

7 жыл бұрын

Sin duda la deuda de Chopin con autores como Hummel y Kalkbrenner es muy grande y poco reconocida. Pero Chopin sí era un gran pianista y un hombre agradecido por eso admiró a estos dos autores muchísimo y recomendó sus enseñanzas. Es importante recalcar que las orquestaciones de Hummel y Kalkbrenner son mucho más sutiles que las del propio Chopin No doubt Chopin's debt with authors like Hummel and Kalkbrenner is very large and little recognized. But Chopin himself was a great pianist and a grateful man so admired these two authors very much and recommended his teachings. Importantly orchestrations Hummel and Kalkbrenner are much more subtle than the own Chopin

@Bruce88keys

7 жыл бұрын

So what, Chopin is the greatest harmonist/melodist of all time

@Populous3Tutorials

7 жыл бұрын

haha u took the day to comment everyone on this video, im laughing as i read comments and see u burn everyone lul

@kenbusch2139

7 жыл бұрын

I believe that composer's name is spelled "Schubert".

@MaestroTJS

7 жыл бұрын

"Chopin is the greatest harmonist/melodist of all time." Very debatable.

0:00 Allegro maestoso 13:16 Adagio di molto 20:29 Rondo vivace

@keremugurlu7158

6 жыл бұрын

Teşekkürler

@zeynepy

5 жыл бұрын

@@keremugurlu7158 vay be

@sircurich.curich3532

4 жыл бұрын

Danke schon

While reading "A life and times Fryderyk Chopin", I drop by here to listen to some music of Kalkbrenner and I'm very, very positively surprised. Wonderful music!

One simply can't hear this piece enough!

It certainly takes a conscious effort to listen to these piano concertos by the lesser known composers without prejudice. Most of us have become somewhat jaded in our outlook because we have been thoroughly persuaded by the excellence of “The Masters.” So must we be wiling to hear and receive these pieces on their own merit and respect the gift and talent of those who have, evidently, sincerely applied themselves to cultivate their unique gifts. With that being said; it is certainly to our credit to open our minds and hearts and enjoy the joy of creativity expressed by those who(in many cases) were contemporaries of the more celebrated geniuses we rightly love and admire. PWG

brillantezza, spirito, varietà tematica, varietà armonica, figurazioni ritmiche di ogni tipo... cosa si può volere di più da un concerto romantico-classico!

Love coming across gems like these through youtube. Great time to be a student of music!

a marvelous work by the unfamilir kalkbrenner - his mastery of the instrument and composition is evident in the score - he should be judged on his own merits - comparisons to other composers is absurd - close the eyes and open the mind (and the ears) - thanks hv

Kalkbrenner has always been one of my favourite composers, its a shame people dont take more of his works into their repertoire. I would love to see more chamber music and concertos of Kalkbrenners on youtube.

@paulryan7552

8 жыл бұрын

my music teacher played one of his works in class and since then I had been obsessed with his music. Something about it just makes me feel great.

@steinwaygrande3971

8 жыл бұрын

From his music teacher

@biomuseum6645

2 жыл бұрын

@@paulryan7552 ikr, he’s a pioneer on the virtuouso age of piano, a precursor to Liszt and Chopin, and a good one

@mitchelllazore8433

Жыл бұрын

@@biomuseum6645 he’s so incredibly far from Liszt and Chopin listen to his opus 80 preludes I forgot any content of the piece after 2 minutes

@biomuseum6645

Жыл бұрын

@@mitchelllazore8433 those things are on a crappy digital piano, it’s not fair to compare it to an actual one

L'ultimo movimento è qualcosa di sublime!

While it's known that Chopin was greatly influenced by Kalkbrenner still crazy how easily you can map so many sections of this to Chopin's works; like the passage from 11:06 is easily recognizable in Chopin's F minor concerto

@DressedForDrowning

7 ай бұрын

I can also hear a bit of Beethoven's 5th piano concerto ...

@brungilda9082

2 ай бұрын

Этот концерт похож больше на первый концерт Шопена. Лирическая главная партия в миноре, а разработка начинается, как и у Шопена, с мажорного проведения главной партии. (У Шопена в до мажоре.) И патетическое октавное вступление тоже, как у Шопена. Конечно, Шопен был под сильным влиянием этого автора. 😊 Единственное, что их отличает, это то, что у этого автора начало чисто польское, но дальше - все австрийское, вплоть до разработки. А у Шопена все польское. :)

23:30 So simple and yet so beautiful, just great

I'm exhausted just watching the score. Wonderful.

I love this concerto.

Touching moments of sensitive lyricism surrounded by a great deal of hollow virtuosity.

@affreuxjojo2423

3 жыл бұрын

Very well said. I agree wholeheartedly.

I found this piece again after more than 3 or 4 years. I love this kind of virtuosity, this inspire me. It's an great answer for my feelings, among anothers.

I love the simplicity of the composition and musicality of this performance ; very nice.

Thankfully I know nothing about music which allows me to enjoy it, this piece in particular. I feel rather sorry for the highly educated musicologists who do not seem to be able to enjoy any of it.

@MartinBlack

9 жыл бұрын

Walterec1 well said!

@catherineanstett9708

8 жыл бұрын

Very very well said !

@moritzlaurer8392

8 жыл бұрын

what do you mean with that?

@moritzlaurer8392

8 жыл бұрын

+maestoso-allegro I am one of these nit picky guys, and I have to say, this concerto is nothing special, nothing original, nothing that's really worth mentioning when talking about masterpieces. However it's still nice and enjoyable.

@Uragaan1

8 жыл бұрын

+maestoso-allegro This is all very subjective, but this concerto really is just boring and doesn't seem like it has much to say. Mendelssohn's piano concerto no.1, while not having as much depth as say Beethoven's concertos, is at the very least enjoyable to listen to. It has a high energy opening that is second to none and extremely beautiful lyrical moments scattered throughout the first and second movement. The Kalkbrenner concerto seems to be a compilation of all the piano techniques without any interesting musical ideas

This is wonderful music, in it’s own right. It could have been more known…Anyway, I’m happy to have discovered it.

Alegra el Alma escuchar estos conciertos. Gracie..

This is amazing . Why on earth has this piano concerto never been played by todays great pianists. Would be in awe if Valentina Lisitsa were to get her hands on this. There is a lot of Chopin and Hummel in this wonderful concerto. There is also an element of the Irish composer John Field in this as well.

@Bruce88keys

7 жыл бұрын

Rubbish, there is a good reason why this shit is a dust collector.

@steinwaygrande3971

7 жыл бұрын

Am not concerned with your stupidity !

@Bruce88keys

7 жыл бұрын

because you too absorbed in your own!

@steinwaygrande9736

5 жыл бұрын

Bruce Stoller is an arse hole and obviously show his total stupidity by his banal comment - if you can call it a comment.

@franniepack

5 жыл бұрын

The reason why there is a lot of "Chopin" is because Kalkbrenner was Chopin's teacher.

Одна из моих любимых композици.

This sounds like it could easily belong to Chopin's concerto catalogue. It's beautiful!

Chopin E-minor concerto much? This concerto is very beautiful and a masterpiece of sorts. I don't care what others think, so be it... One can see how Kalkbrenner has taken the proto-Romanticism of the Mozart/Beethoven school and pushed it further to suit his own ends... He deserves credit.

In my opinion, that's in full romantic period 1800-1850. Hummel, Kalkbrenner, Chopin and other composers from that ages are envolved in a circle of similar structures,phrases and emotions. It's seems chopin, it seems others; by the way, each one give to his compositions and at least to us, in ours days, the privilege of a true experience to reach our souls. I love chopin concertos, I know every single note of them, and when I listen other composers from that ages and reminds me Chopin, I only can smile. Chopin itself in his letters wrote a lot of his work, he hope that can satisfy his public; a true sense of modesty. ( sorry for my english,I'm italian)

@Bruce88keys

7 жыл бұрын

No one did it better than Chopin

@wendyu.tinkle6767

7 жыл бұрын

Stop trolling.

le dernier mouvement révèle la joie, la gaieté...c'est merveilleux

I hope all of those critics on here can play this... doubt it..... !! and I personally enjoy it, and that is what music is about, how it affects the individual. I would say that this music speaks, and that is all that is important.......

"The best pianist in Europe. The only one I am not worthy to tie his shoes of" "A giant who crushes all Herzes and Czernys underneath his feet, including myself" - Chopin in a letter to his friend Tytus Woyciechowski.

@yisroelkaplan5398

6 жыл бұрын

kakbrenner wanted chopin to study with him for 3 years, chopin refused and eventually graduated from his obssesion of kalkbrenner (at least to some extent)

@klop4228

6 жыл бұрын

Doesn't necessarily make him a better composer. Or a worse one, to be fair.

Thanks so much for sharing this magnificent, beautiful music! I personally love this concerto and I would be happy to learn more about this composer. Thanks again!

All comments go about the composer, however, the pianist is doing a fantastic job!

@Mazurking

Жыл бұрын

I agree, amazing playing.

First time I hear this concerto, I love it.

He wrote tremendous amounts of music, and sadly almost nothing has survived.. He considered himself to be "The last classical composer" and on the same height as Beethoven and Haydn

Excelente obra , expresiva , romántica, una belleza de composición. Buenos Aires

Bravo grandiose genial concerto super music

Eines der größten Beispiele für Adel und Verständnis der Herablassung !!! Tepper Michael.

Howard Shelley (piano), Tasmanian Symphony Orchestra, Howard Shelley (conductor)

@yowzephyr

7 ай бұрын

You are saying who is performing this work here, correct? Or are you recommending some other performance?

All these professional comments.. I am here to listen and enjoy. Beautiful concerto, period.

I've never known about him. Sounds like he is a well-known in many ways😄 I really liked this.

Louis Moreau Gottschalk: "In 1844, then very young, I gave in Paris a soirée to which all the illustrious pianists of the period were invited, among others Kalkbrenner. I played Chopin’s concerto in E Minor, Thalberg's Fantasia on Semiramide, and a fantasia by Liszt. The next day I went to thank Kalkbrenner for having come to hear me. This attention softened a little the generally sour disposition of the old pianist, who did not forgive the new school for knowing something; he took my hand and said with the air of majestic condescension: The style is good, as for the rest there is nothing astonishing; you are my grandchild (alluding to Stamaty, who was his pupil), but for god's sake, who advised you to play such music. Chopin! I hardly pardon you; but Liszt and Thalberg, what rhapsodies! Why did you not play one of my pieces? They are beautiful, please everybody and are classical".

One of the greatest examples of nobility and understanding kind condescension !!! Tepper Michael.

Intelligent classical composer ! Beautiful concerto.

Как жаль, что эта чудесная музыка почти забыта и не исполняется. Благодарность моя исполнителям этого чуда. Хочется ещё слушать музыку прошлого, редко исполняемую и незаслуженно забытую.

@nrg_warrior45

Жыл бұрын

Правда Один из лучших концертов для фортепиано по моему мнению. Интересный факт: Это пьеса было вдохновлена концертом Шопэна, что можно и услышать

@pianorandi

9 ай бұрын

@@nrg_warrior45It was composed years before Chopins concertos.

Thank you, HenriVieuxtemps, for sharing this with all of us. Chopin considered Maestro Kalkbrenner - "The best pianist of his time." This piece is wonderful. Kalkbrenner was a great Pianist, but not as great a composer as Chopin. During his life, Kalkbrenner experienced great loss, sadness, and other difficulties. Such was the case for dear Chopin, however, Chopin's heart, spirit, and soul was richer and more sensitive. Thus, more lyrical, tender, and human. Yet, in so many of Chopin's writings, we see Chopin's greatest talent and character- his humility. Chopin wrote of Kalkbrenner: "I am not worthy to even tie his shoelaces." Remarkable -no? Thank you again, HenriVieuxtemps.

00:02 Movement 1 : Allegro maestoso 13:18 Movement 2 : Adagio di molto 20:30 Movement 3 : Rondo vivace

Magnifique, quel plaisir, l'Adagio c'est de la dentelle ! Et le Rondo vivace, idem. J'ai adoré ❣️🎶💓🎶

Great pianist great performance great composer

@stuartmclaren2402

5 ай бұрын

Have you heard the zHoward Shelley and Tasmanian SO recording. I think it is a better recording but Hyperion do not allow their recordings to be placed on You Tube. Also Shelley has recorded the other 3 concerti.

It is so well-played and so clean in the right sense of the word, I enjoyed it!

ottimamente eseguito...un esempio pieno del pianismo e della sonorità romantica...e colmo di pathos

Wow, the adagio is absurdly amazing! Utterly transcendentally peaceful.

excellent concerto joli morceau a ecouter tres souvant!

A year later and I still like it. Perhaps I should seek some counseling.

@johnniejohn-jack7610

8 жыл бұрын

Why ruin a good thing ? Mental Health is over-rated!

@thomaspetrie1854

7 жыл бұрын

There might e a medication for this condition you have! I've suffered from it since I was five years old! So far, NOTHING has helped--I still love classical music and yes, this piece too--simply awesome!

@andrews582

7 жыл бұрын

I don't want to be cured of this "condition."

Thanks for uploading!

Beautiful shape of sound, this piece shows what piano can do over other instruments.

Muito lindo demais esse concerto! Achei vibrante e alegre!

Realmente está entre as mais lindas composições pra piano!

Stop talking about Chopin here, the comment section is full of that, we have nothing else to say, try to remember this more as Kalkbrenner. This was Chopin's inspiration for his concerto op *21* , if you want the real Chopin, go after op 50, it's much more interesting here. Anyway, this must be a good concerto if Chopin took inspiration from it.

Brillante, intenso, coinvolgente.

buenisimo. desconocia a este compositor ... gracias !

06:48 - 08:15 My favourite fragment 😍

DIVINO !

A brilliant underestimated composer, one of my favorite pieces.

absolutely amazing concerto

Well, some parts are better than others but it's an interesting work and helps contextualize the development of romantic piano concert

Obscurity awaits for those who don't have a snappy memorable name.

@danielhornby5581

4 жыл бұрын

Indeed. Some of the writing in this is absolutely glorious, particularly for the piano. You would argue that the orchestral writing, whilst not especially ambitious, is superior to Chopin’s as well. But, I guess history chooses its canon for whatever reason.

@milton3204

3 жыл бұрын

You two are such contrarians. "Snappy memorable name, history chooses its canon for whatever reason." You two are actually going to pretend Chopin's ouvre isn't superior to Kalkbrenner's. Lmao

@r0mmm

3 жыл бұрын

His name in german translated means "chalkburner"

@brungilda9082

2 ай бұрын

​@@danielhornby5581к сожалению, у Шопена, при всей гениальности первого фортепианного концерта, очень плохая оркестровка. 😢 Времени все не хватает переделать. 😂 А так хочется! Особенно коду первой части первого фортепианного концерта. Ну, зачем он там заставил тянуть основную тему одинокий кларнет? Я все время задают этим вопросом. Но вот, подумав, потом поняла, зачем он так написал. Дело в том, что первый концерт Шопен посвятил одной певице, в которую влюбился. И вот это кода с одиноким кларнетом, звучит, как вопрос к своей возлюбленной. Я это понимаю именно так. Как тонкий намёк. Но переписать оркестррвку все равно хочется! Возлюбленная, конечно, главнее, но кода должна все-таки достойно звучать. 😂

Beautifull, stunning, amazing !

thanks for sharing this music dude!

Gorgeous piano writing; though he never shapes a truly memorable melody.

Beautiful!

Gracias por siempre abuela.

dear musiclovers, please think that, when Kalkbrenner composed this concerto, Chopin , might be a baby inhis mothre's arms.. so please try not to compare each other =D

He disfrutado muchísimo el segundo movimiento. :+)

amazing concert, good for performers

J'aime beaucoup et c'est une découverte pour moi.

Amazing Dear Many thanks for to share this dear Fantastic

Bella esecuzione di un concerto di K., che fu insegnante di Chopin e grazie per la partitura, preziosa per seguirlo. ♡

Brilhante! Que concerto maravilhoso!

This really sounds like "proto-Chopin"!

@darknarga2000

9 жыл бұрын

Ok chopin sounds like proto kalkbrenner xDD

@darknarga2000

9 жыл бұрын

darknarga2000 *or

@parvenoob595

4 жыл бұрын

Darknarga Kalkbrenner came before Chopin.

That was amazing to hear and crazy to try to follow as it moved along!

Wonderful.

Merci beaucoup ! Thank you very much

First time I can see you upload Piano Piece

Criminally under-played concerto.

Incredible pianist!

Listen this, abolish the surge of noises and images of everyday life in order to open the space of a place where contingency and representation give way to the immateriality of the sensible. Once the door is closed on agitation of the world, an underlying silence sets in, a slowness seizes preludes to a dilation of perception and consciousness. The expressive power of the sound architecture breaks with any form of transcription of the real to attach itself to the expression of an elusive universe. Colors and rhythm of these compositions is a language that gives voice to exaltation!

great, great, great !!!!!!!!!!

We can quibble about this and that but it remains that we should remember, purchase , and play more of Kalkbrenner's music. He had some genuine things to say in his music. And he was extremely important in his day so the well educated person will listen to his music to put him and more famous others in true context.

Dees iz zah gveatest composition yoo have nevah herd ov!

Virtuose thank you for sharing

BELLISSIMO!!!!!

very good piano Concerto

Beautiful

Normally I respect the right of people to hold opinions and I encourage criticism; however, these comments show that a little touch of ego can take things way too far. What good does it do to insist that something that someone else is enjoying is terrible? If you think there is something truly pernicious or immoral going on, as you might argue for in modern culture, that's one thing, but this is a piano concerto for God's sake, nearly two hundred years old. Whom are you saving and from what?

@mjb728

7 жыл бұрын

I have begun to learn this concerto. It is not technically difficult. But, id like to see you try and attempt it and then see who has a curiosity for mediocrity.

@Bruce88keys

7 жыл бұрын

Better put the work into something you will use all your life especially if a conductor or opportunity arises for a Chopin 1 or 2 concerto or Mozart, or Schumann- this concerto is pablum at best.

@SamuraiSx19

7 жыл бұрын

+Bruce Stoller sorry but that's personal opinion. and in modern language we would tell - MAINSTREAM. personally I don't enjoy Chopin's concertos. as for this one, it's beautiful in its simplicity and powerful melody and easy going melodic line which just flows with nice ornaments and passages in piano part, interesting and pretty. I don't think that human being can have rights to say something like ''put work into something you will use all your life'' and then goes naming mainstream names. sorry but in life every kind of musical classical piece has its beaty especially such one written on the end of one music era and with such easy hand. many composers and GREAT pieces are forgotten especially because of likes you! this is ignorance and arrogancy to call something less worth and something which isn't that much of a fame to put into abnormal heights. Thanks God someone got this score and played it wonderfully so I could find out about this beautiful concert. stop being selfish and just putting your favroites everywhere as a sample 'how it should be done' or 'waste your life on quallity'. shame humanity.

HERMOSO CONCIERTO COMO TANTOS QUE HAY .

6:01 wow!

The Lord preserve us from music snobs, particularly when they use bad language. I for one am very glad this highly enjoyable concerto has been preserved whatever the "judgement of history" may decree, and however "musically poor" it is in the eyes (ears?) of someone with a degree in piano performance. I am glad there are some open-minded people who also enjoy it. I have just discovered this composer through the sort-of-autobiography (La Musica è Pericolosa) of Nicola Piovani, a brilliant pianist and composer of the music for the film "Life is Beautiful" and many other Italian films. A music-lover since his teens when a present of the Goldberg Variations set him off on his musical journey, he values all kinds of music, from Yael Naim, through Verdi to Bach. As he says "There's a time to listen in silence to Bach and a time to dance a samba". Emphatically NOT a music snob. I was a music snob 50 years ago. Thank God I've grown out of it.

maravilha ..!!!

gracias a los comentarios pude redescubrir este compositor, impresionado¡ desde Buenos Aires

Why do people constantly compare this magnificent man (Whom I just discovered a couple days ago who is just originally astonishing) to Chopin? Yeah sure there are similarities between all composers but like I said, this is original stuff and its euphoric relating to this Parisians virtuosic and salon(ic) style. and to top things off, this man was well before Chopin's time besides the overlap of the composers years. So it makes no sense to compare this man to Chopin but the other way around, no?

@dman9dman

8 жыл бұрын

+CziffraTheThird There Is the style of the composer,and there is the style of that period. This bickering is pointless

@CziffraTheThird

8 жыл бұрын

Дмитрий Фамилиев And my friend I say this: you know what, I completely and utterly agree with you! And you make a great point, despite the influences of the composer(s), the ultimate mannerisms of the period is whats most potent. But then again, each composer, as in the titling word itself, does create and innovate new pathways to euphoria if you are picking up what I'm laying down.

@dman9dman

8 жыл бұрын

CziffraTheThird Innovation is not an end in itself, but only the result of the creative search for means of expressing the feelings of the author. That's why we with the same pleasure as listening to Bach, Buxtehude,Monteverdi or Mozart, and traditional in all senses Hummel.

do I hear Chopin piano Concerto No.1...WOW great performence as well...enjoyed each moment of it...

@brungilda9082

2 ай бұрын

Первая часть главная партия и ее звучаеие в разработке в мажоре - вообще, как под копирку! 😊

Lovely!