I have masters degree in music art, piano as specialty achieved in Poland. Never heard this. Nobody told me about this... Can't figure out why this music is not promoted. That is outstanding piece of concerto.

@pablocosta8738

Жыл бұрын

After growing tired of listening to the SAME pieces of classical music (a "broadened" canon that included not only Vivaldi's Four Seasons but also, let's say, Scriabin), I've started a journey to lesser known composers and pieces. A sort of a "B Side" of classical music. And what did I discover? Moritz Moskowski, Nikolai Kasputin, Vasily Kalinnikov and others. Unimaginable I had never listened to them before.

@igrowtowerspermaculture9055

Жыл бұрын

there was a giant "reset" in the 1870s.........we lost all knowledge through rich fews........stealing electricity , telefony, magnetism, vibrational curing, and finally in 1913 instituting the GRANDE THEFT THROUGH IRS.....AND FIAT MONEY ...AND THE FED RES BANK

@erika6651

Жыл бұрын

@@pablocosta8738 I had but a solitary semester of piano performance many moons ago but I have the same passion for classical music that someone with a degree would possess. Like you, I've discovered long forgotten composers thanks to KZread. Prinz Ferdinand was a delightful discovery. Weber now has a place in my heart that would never have existed until I explored his piano sonatas and other keyboard works on here. I think the greatest discovery for me has been Alkan. How I had not heard of him while exploring piano music as much as I did back in the 90s until 2008 I will never understand.

@pablocosta8738

Жыл бұрын

@@erika6651 thanks for your tips! I'll search them

@frederikkok9284

Жыл бұрын

This must have influenced Chopin (Dobrzynski was 2 years Chopins classmate, four years older than Chopin and allready wrote this concerto). Strange enough there is no mention about Dobrzynski in Ludwig Erhardt's book "music in Poland"

This is a delightful piece. The reason that KZread is so great is that, before it existed, it would have been very unlikely that I would have encountered the music of Dobrzynski.

This is astounding. I never heard of this remarkable composer and to read he was 17 when he wrote this is unreal. What teenager today writes music of this type? Wonderful.

@colinmurphy2214

5 жыл бұрын

Richard Allen Alma Deutscher, age 13. Violin concerto at 9, full scale opera at 10, piano concerto at 12. I hope to also have a good concerto by the time I’m 17, though I doubt it will be of this quality.

@theyoutubetroll6679

2 жыл бұрын

Lil Pump dropped Gucci Gang at 17

@fabiopaolobarbieri2286

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, 17 seems to be the age at which full-blown genius tends to manifest itself. That is when we have Mendelssohn and Mozart turning from spectacularly talented children to composers of immortal work. I have known one such case among my own friends.

@fabiopaolobarbieri2286

2 жыл бұрын

@@Whatismusic123 Not quite the best instance - that is the one that nobody ever plays, until at least they've played the third, the second, the fourth and the Variations.

@glennbourque111

11 ай бұрын

What teenagers enjoy today is pathetic stuff of no value. Just a lot of noise. But that's what turns them on - sad.

The history of Polish composers seems to be fabulous. I admire this concerto enormously.

This is another in a long line of magnificent piano concertos little known to us. Those who appreciate beautiful music owe a debt of gratitude to KuhlauDilfeng2, pomip1010, and all others who have taken it upon themselves to put on KZread such priceless gems, thus rescuing these pieces from oblivion. Furthermore, I must mention that I am in total agreement with the observation made by José Alexandre. For far too long the classical music labels have ignored composers every bit as accomplished as the tried and true war-horses. By so doing, these labels fail to increase the listening audience for Western classical music, treating this genre as if it was a museum piece. ¡Arriba con esa buena música que ha sido ignorada!

@viano9541

7 жыл бұрын

Can I suggest you look at The Wicked North's KZread channel? Amazing content!

@alanbobe-velez9716

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your suggestion. I will look at The Wicked North's KZread channel as soon as I can. Once again, Christina Kant, thanks for your suggestion.

@nitonito6514

7 жыл бұрын

El problema, de serlo, es que el que se tiene que acercar a la música en el oyente, nunca al revés. Maravilloso concierto sin duda!!!!

@mamacordella

6 жыл бұрын

WE CAN THANK THE CARNEGIE FOUNDATION FOR CONTROLLING MUSIC !!!

@riffraftmusic8669

5 жыл бұрын

I agree and have found the same in the field of Russian artists (impressionist painters, etc). Russia seems to be a treasure-trove for all kinds of artists. Well, it's a pretty big country, so it shouldn't be surprising. They may feel the same way about "the West". (Also a fan of The Wicked North.)

Thanks to KuhlauDilfeng2 we can listen to wonderful piano concertos which are practically unlknown, the usual piano concertos we hear all the time are very nice, but we are a bit fed up with them, and I have come to hate some of them due to their constant playing, PLEASE CHANGE REPERTOIRES, INTERPERSING TRADITIONAL PIANO CONCERTOS WITH WORKS BY OTHER COMPOSERS LIKE THIS ONE !!!!!!! WE WILL ALL BE GRATEFUL FOR THAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@brendangordon2168

19 күн бұрын

KuhlauDilfeng2 and Bartje Bartmans need medals

Great Ignacy Feliks Dobrzyński and Amazing Emilian Madey❤❤

Why, why WHY does this happen in music??The masters that no one knows about. It's grossly unfair. I'm so grateful for finding this. It's magnificent.

@Kumgll

2 жыл бұрын

Same for literature and the visual arts I guess. The artist craves to create and rarely stumbles upon a public platform or is 'discovered'. Unperformed music however gets the roughest ride. How much wonderful and life changing music has been lost never even getting beyond the manuscript? Another artist must take it up, interpret it and get people like you and me to listen to it. Is that the "why, why, WHY?"

How have I gone my whole life without knowing this work of mastery or composer even existed? I literally searched “rare classical music” hoping to find something other than the moonlight sonata. Such a shame that there is so much talent out there that gets overlooked. Thanks for the upload!

@sorinvlas7814

Жыл бұрын

Bro rlly searched "rare classical music"....💀

The picture: The talisman by Henryk Siemiradzki

@rafaemcc

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I was about to ask about it.

Davvero incredibile per un diciassettenne comporre un simile capolavoro. E ancora più incredibile che sia sconosciuto.

Jedes Mal, wenn ich dieses Stück von Dobrzynski höre, fühle ich mich besser. VIELEN DANK ~~!

This magnificent Piano Concerto ranks as high as any of Beethoven's, in my opinion. What an amazing composer!

Although I`ve never heard Ignacy Feliks Dobrzyński , I`m quite sure that Piano Concerto in A-flat major, Op.2 is an unknown masterpiece which is deserved to be heard by all music lovers in present times.

Wow. Especially 'wow' because I'd never heard of this before - and I studied piano many years. The finale is especially peppy.

This is really first rate music from a country that for two centuries was divided geographically but united in culture and spirit.

How isn't this more popular, this is outstanding, defiantly in top 10 concertos of all time.

@pamos1949

2 жыл бұрын

Do inform us of the other 'defiant' nine. '

@peterlee9491

11 ай бұрын

The harmonic language may not be as intricate as what the music scholars would perceive as "genre worthy"...

24:40 is one of those moments where you are just like "how the hell is this concerto not more well known!?" pure beauty, this part at 24:40 is what it's like to fall in love.

Absolutely stellar, uplifting my spirit as we speak. Just like with anything in life, the best stuff, the gems, the treasures are hidden, they are NOT in plain sight. You have to go and dig them out. THANK YOU, all of you for sharing in this blessing together. Gott beschütze euch!

I hadn't even heard of Dobrzyński. Another gem!

4 years ago I called it lovely. Today, I hear so much more . . . and call it significantly magnificent . . . and . . . lovely. Thank you !

When I saw this and clicked on this I didn't think of much, but as soon as the piano came in I had to finish to concerto. How does my generation say again: This concerto is lit af 🔥🔥🔥

This concerto is just a lot of fun. I love it. It is like you have heard it 100 times, except that you haven't. Recently I have been listening to a whole lot of romantic era piano concerto's on KZread and this is my favorite so far.

@pmichael73

6 жыл бұрын

"like you have heard it 100 times" - great comment! Delightful piece in every way.

@wojtekhappywarrior1

5 жыл бұрын

I feel the same way, like I've heard it

This is a lovely, lovely concerto, and I, too, had never heard of Dobrzynksi... Yes, indeed, this is most reminiscent of Chopin, with the episodic declamatory florid passages and similar sequenced patterns Chopin is so well known for, such as those already mentioned between 15:15 and 15:30 in the first movement. And, yes, the third movement is what appears to be in a Krakowiak style, or Polish polka of sorts. I probably love the first and third movements the most, maybe faulting my love for Chopin. Can't wait to hear Dobrzynski's second symphony. The exceptional 45 year old Polish pianist, Emilian Madey, has studied at the Chopin Music Academy in Warsaw, won numerous competitions, and has had a significant presence in Vilnius, Lithuania, and South Korea, so he is not unknown to the rest of the world, only the rest of us... Thank you for the upload of this very lovely concerto.

@StuartSimon

3 жыл бұрын

Actually, this antedates both of Chopin’s concerti, the F-minor by five years and the E-minor by six or seven. And it was likely never performed during the composer’s lifetime. Still it is possible that Chopin knew it if his and Dobrzynski’s teacher Elsner showed it to Chopin.

For me, this composer , was saved from oblivion . . . Lovely and majestic, magnificent and a beautiful work! by Ignacy F. Dobrzynski (sounds like: Dobrin-je-ski, ? . . . I think. . .) Thank you whoever saved this great man from 200 years of oblivion and international renown ! Poland is such a great country which has bred and breeds amazingly both holy and talented and dedicated- to- the- good . . . type of humanity !

This concerto is beautiful especially the second movement. Thanks to KZread and only KZread I have become aware of hundreds of composers, many of them great, not visible anywhere else. Just piano concertos from the Romantic period I have listened to 50!! A great pity that the commercial labels totally ignore these composers.

What a nice composer to discover 👌🏼

Sheer delight from start to finish

What a brilliant piece ! Also the pianist deserves a big compliment I feel !

I think I listen to this concerto at least 5 times week since I discovered it, it's just perfect to my ears

I fully share the comments of all my "music listening" colleagues. I just cannot prevent from being frustrated for music seals like DGG, Decca, Philiops, etc not editing and revealing such high quality composers...The reason is obvious - for almost 30 years the circle for new LPs, CDs was basically the B-M-B-S-B-M circle (Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert, Brahms, Mahler) added of about 20 or so additional names - Chopin, Bruckner, Sibelius, Vivaldi, Debussy, Wagner usw. And that was it . It took a long time to show how brilliant a great lot of ignored composers were...Thank you for this new revelation.

@howardmcclellan6344

7 жыл бұрын

Hyperion are bringing to light many neglected piano concertos in its fantastic series, The Romantic Piano Concerto. There are one or two duds perhaps, but some gems. I urge you to try Schawanker's 4th Piano Concerto and the first of Sauer (both on the same disc). I doubt that they will be less than thrilling

@dr.arielcohen6159

7 жыл бұрын

Do you mean Scharwenka?

@josealexandre6632

7 жыл бұрын

yes, sorry. Thank you for correcting me.

@FabioPBarbieri

6 жыл бұрын

An Italian name who is more than ripe for resurrection: Saverio Mercadante. His continued neglect is astonishing.

Thanks for posting this unknown gem from Poland.

Chopi having left Poland, Dobrzynski is the main romantic Polish pianist and composer. His work is underrated. It includes among others one opera, two symphonies, and this concerto for piano. Dobrzynski was rather young when he composed this long concerto: it is his opus 2. The role of the orchestra is more important than in Chopin's concerti, in spite of the paramount role of the soloist. This concerto is a very nice composition.

@fox570808

5 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately he is not even known in Poland.

@ytyt3922

4 жыл бұрын

Scharwenka too

Somebody asked my why I love classical music and I replied to him: the beauty is what attracts me and where beauty is present God is present and all the people of the Universe who share beauty? Isn't it so simple?

I'd like to meet 17 year old Dobrzynski and ask him how this is possible. Also to compose another piano concerto in his last 43 years, since he clearly has the capacity to create beauty. This has my vote for greatest concerto for it's raw ability to bring me to the place of pure romanticism. Consider this my duty as a 19 year old to promote this concerto to all who take interest in classical music till my end. Want desperately to see this played in a hall someday.

@thecluelesscomposer

5 жыл бұрын

totally agree and I'm so happy that I'm not the only teenager on KZread listening to classical music lol

To think this incredible piece of music is almost 200 years old blows my mind Simply beautiful 🎼🎼

This is a beautiful concerto. You Tube shows us that there is so much delightful piano music from the Romantic Period that we just haven't previously heard of. I hope that we will start seeing more of them in the concert repertoire.

Thank you very much for this sharing ! I didn't know this composer. Beautiful music !

One of the best pieces of music in the last 200 years or so.

an underrated Polish composer. He was a friend of F. Chopin. It's immediately clear how valuable it is to have such a talented acquaintance because it elevates the music.

What a breathtaking second movement. I'm not sure I can get any more work finished today, because I'm floating.

@LeschekOfLechia

8 жыл бұрын

Same here!

Painting: Henryk Siemiradzki - Talisman (c. 1880).

@ziloj-perezivat

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

Another marvellous composer ( and there were so, so many) who never really managed to get out of the shadow of the greatest composers.

Thank you for posting good friend. You are providing a great service to all music lovers. I always get saddened by the short life span of these wonderful composers.

Incredible wonderful music. I could hear it again and again....

Marvellous work by a 17 year old !

Mendellsohn also wrote his Octet in E-flat, Opus 20, when he was 17. Damn, how could such youngsters compose such gorgeous music! Simply awesome!

@alanbobe-velez9716

8 жыл бұрын

+Thomas Petrie Actually, I have always read that Mendelssohn composed his Octet, Opus 20 when he was just sixteen years of age. Whether he was sixteen or seventeen is not that important. What is important is that it is a gorgeous piece of music.

Marvelous!

No conocía este concierto. Me agrada grandemente. Considero que puede ser una obra excelente para marcar un punto de partida en la carrera de un joven pianista.

Enchanting

17 anni ? Concerto di pregevole fattura per un giovanissimo. Bravissimo. Gravissimo che i posteri non ne abbiamo riconosciuto il giusto merito e lasciato caduto nell'oblio.

This is fast becoming my favourite piano concerto!

Not bad for a 17 year-old.

@music_pillow3246

8 жыл бұрын

It is incredible!! I am 17 now and i wouldnt ever write somthing like this!

@Clavichordist

7 жыл бұрын

LOL. I was 17 one and could never write anything like this either!

@user-tn9yx4ll5y

7 жыл бұрын

Bryan Ho にさき

@colinmurphy2214

5 жыл бұрын

Not bad for an anything year old

@colinmurphy2214

5 жыл бұрын

69829Dave Not the place Dave

Tremendous performance! The last half minute caught me by surprise and would have had me cheering, in the concert hall!

Excellent.

Hooley Dooley what a fabulous concerto this is to sit and enjoy. So light and full of joy. That second movement just blew me away. I am gobsmacked that this piece of music has never been aired on radio or in any of the big piano concerts. Australia is having the Sydney International Piano Competition later this year and I guess it will be the usual piano works by Chopin Beethoven, Mozart,Brahms Liszt etc. It would be an incredible stroke of luck if any of the contestants played this concerto or the one by Friedrick Kalkbrenner . To good to not play in these piano competitions.

Impressive music, !! great concerto, Great composer which I didn't known ! Thank you for sharing ! !

Only got introduced to this composer by Classic FM...thanks so much. Once the programme finished, I had to log on to You Tube to continue listening. Quite, quite beautiful.

Beautiful, living, dancing tunes. I am glad I heard this concerto.

Bravo! So beautiful.

Excelente, "GRANDE ENTRE LOS GRANDES".- Se codea de Tú a Tú con Lizst, Chopin y tantos otros.-

A truly beautiful and soothing piece

@zh900

2 жыл бұрын

Yes indeed!

Astonishing, relaxing and a very good performance, too!

Compositeur incontestablement très inspiré . Il a eu la " malchance " de naître à l'époque de musiciens encore plus grands que lui , quoique cette appréciation soit un peu relative ! Chopin, Liszt et bien d'autres lui ont fait de l'ombre, c'est sûr, mais il ne démérite pas pour autant ! Bravo aux artistes qui le font revivre !!

@lindildeev5721

Жыл бұрын

Ça doit être en partie à cause de son style : on est en plein romantisme et lui a encore un style très classique.

Изумительная музыка раннего романтизма. Ещё нет великих Листа и Шопена. Почему не исполняется? Как жаль!

Non mi stancherei mai di ascoltarlo, è bellissimo.

Quel beau concerto pour piano - un autre compositeur polonais merveilleux et rarement entendu. Parties de la troisième mouvement me rappelle de Chopin.

One of my favorite piano concertos!!!

Mi piace questo nuovo Autore per me,per come scandisce le sue note aggraziate e gentili per tessere arie e atmosfere di grande levigatezza sonora.

A very friendly music, as anohers said, influence of Mozart and Mendelssohn is present, but, there is necessary a quote of talent to do a composition so so emotional, specially the last movement that is fastand needly a great digitation....... really I like so much

Another excellent choice, thank you. I found it to be absolutely delightful.

What a charming concerto! The joy of youth in every phrase, totally lifts your feet off the ground. Thank you, KuhlauDilfeng2.

A wonderful concerto among many outside the mainstream that I have recently discovered on KZread. Finds like this are testimony to the amazing, nearly endless variety of music. To quote my mother, who was a fine pianist and (unlike me) understood musical structure and theory very well, but still marveled at the breadth and scope of musical invention, "How can there be so much music when there are only eight notes?"

magnifique interpretation excellent pianiste tres bonne orchestre merci .

El nivel de los conciertos que usted pone aqui.Es realmente increible.Muchas gracias.

Sono emozionata: musica stupenda. Grazie !

my goodness...what a wonderful piece of music

So beautiful, it is sad that it isn't hear more today, should be performed more frequently.Thank you KuhlauDilfeng2

Ignacy Feliks Dobrzyński was a school friend of Fryderyk Chopin in Warsaw, in the class of Józef Elsner.

@23crosspath

2 ай бұрын

See the film A song to remember CHOPIN

Lovely piece. Such a shame that this isn't more well known.

One of the most beautiful piano concertos I've heard. What a pleasant surprise! Thanks for the upload.

No conocía a este compositor. Lo añado a mis preferidos

What I love about the wonderful buffet of music that you offer. It's just so great to "sample" and often find gems like this. (Even if it's not entirely original! Thanks so much!)

heureusement qu'il y a youtube pour découvrir de telles oeuvres formidables afin de ne pas mourir idiot

It's interesting how you can hear some of these motives and ideas in Chopin's concertos

@pmichael73

6 жыл бұрын

Chopin's left hands aren't as good.

@milton3204

6 жыл бұрын

lol no

@lucillebreton2455

6 жыл бұрын

Je remarque ca moi aussi.

Muy fino concierto romántico.

Thank you for sharing this Piano Concerto with us. It is a lovely piece of music and once again these lesser known composers are easy to enjoy.

Predivno! Svaka čast!

Very well composed

Remarkable on it's own. One can hear that Chopin was influenced greatly by this talented young man at least in his concerto forms. Wonderful to hear this music.

@milton3204

6 жыл бұрын

Eh, no. Both of them studied in a style of piano writing that was popular in not just Poland but all over Europe. It just so happens that Chopin is the most popular practitioner of this style today, so people prematurely make inferences about composers (example Chopin being influenced by [X]) even when there's little evidence to suggest so.

Thank you so much it’s like salve for a wounded soul. Very inspirational. 👍👍👍🌹🌹🌹

Excelente concierto. No tiene nada que envidiar a los mejores conciertos para piano de la época del romanticismo de la música.

I really love this work! The first movement particularly is very Mozart-esque with a smattering of Beethoven thrown in for good measure! Marvellous piece, absolutely enjoyed it a ton!!! Thanks for uploading KuhlauDilfeng .... :D

Très agréable découverte, merci !

Bravo brilliance concerto

Lovely music... what fresh discoveries!.... Thanks KuhlauDilfeng2

"La valeur n'attend point le nombre des années" P. Corneille. En voici la preuve incontestable... 👏🎶💓🎶✨

thank you for this Gem ! I love being introduced to new composers and pieces, thank you !

Thanks for sharing a "treasure trove" .

Fine and excellent Concerto for Piano & Orchestra