I feel so bad for Mark, this is so genuinely embarrassing

@montyturner6511

Жыл бұрын

Ikr. Don't know why JS is going into Mark's business.

@sirlimen333

Жыл бұрын

BECAUSE MARK MADE EVERYTHING ABOUT HIM PUBLIC. Jesus Christ, are you dorks that dense?

@YeahToastGOD

Жыл бұрын

@@sirlimen333 Nooo the fuck he did not

@sirlimen333

Жыл бұрын

Oh sorry. Nevermind that they LIVESTREAMED THEIR WEDDING VOWS IN MARKS TWITCH CHANNEL. God, you people are so dumb.

@YeahToastGOD

Жыл бұрын

@@sirlimen333 Cap, where's your source? In non of the info I could find on this did anyone mention that. Also if it is true then he's really gotta pick better friends if no one knew he was married.

I just read Just Stop's post on his community page; he said that he apologized to Mark, said that he should've done it differently, and just talked to him in private about this. Thankfully, he realized what he did was wrong and took accountability of his actions. He does have good intentions and wanted to help those who are suffering, but I agree he should've talked to him privately. Even though I'm a fan of both LS Mark and Just Stop, I didn't know this little drama happened nor seen Just Stop's video/livestream about this. Heck, I didn't know that Mark was having relationship issues to be honest. I'm just glad he apologized and didn't double down.

@4swordsluver

Жыл бұрын

@supermegakosta i watched a reupload the other day 🤔

@flamedramon68

Жыл бұрын

@supermegakosta If you look hard enough you'll find one. Check the wayback machine, too

@august_affleck

Жыл бұрын

I’m just glad people are subscribing to the Upchucks

@jestawell

Жыл бұрын

honestly this is a case where autists are interacting, you cant blame them for having social understandings It they apolgize

I’m sure if Mark was unhappy, he would make a statement. I’m glad that Just Stop was able to admit to his mistakes, though.

@PhoenixAce

Жыл бұрын

This is a terrible take mate a lot of people in abusive relationships do not speak up Not saying the relationship is abusive for sure tho

@randiepeps

Жыл бұрын

@@neotoad456 i think ur mentally ill

@digiphobia9416

Жыл бұрын

@@PhoenixAce I think he means a statement about just stops video bud

@CyberdustStudios

Жыл бұрын

@@PhoenixAce Did Niotodtown delete his comment? Ill just put it here, just in case... He wasn't saying it was abusive, mate. But he is right, a lot of people in abusive relationships don't tend to speak up for multiple reasons. If anyones logic is wrong, It's yours.

@PhoenixAce

Жыл бұрын

@@digiphobia9416 it’s hard to tell if he means a statement on the relationship or the video

I did not know that JustStop was 18. That really puts his reviews into perspective.

@spritvio639

Жыл бұрын

How so?

@toongamer2810

Жыл бұрын

I thought he was like in his 20s tf

@august_affleck

Жыл бұрын

I think it would put it more into perspective if you subbed to the Upchucks

@lxi..

Жыл бұрын

Honestly I knew he was in his late teens but thought he was 19 going on 20

@SpaceLandslip

Жыл бұрын

really? I thought he was older

I hope people arent too harsh on JS as it looks he took the criticism well

@hex9757

Жыл бұрын

eh man should've subbed to The Upchucks

@PhoenixAce

Жыл бұрын

Someone called him an abuser for uploading the video so they’re going extremely hard on him

@PhoenixAce

Жыл бұрын

@Speedy Bandit a random commenter in one of the top comments Named “Bent” also another comment in that same thread is calling him psychotic

@csokissuti7343

Жыл бұрын

@@starlightalbright6389 how so?

@LeonShuriken

Жыл бұрын

@@csokissuti7343 dragging someone’s relationship into the public discourse and manipulating them into divulging their personal life just to make a smear video about them doesn’t sound psychotic to you?

I can imagine Just Stop writing the script to his video while "Hero by Enrique Inglesias" plays in the background. Then every so often he sheds a single tear as he puts his hand on the computer monitor while Mark's picture is there. "I was supposed to be your hero, Mark..."

@Unknown-rw1im

Жыл бұрын

"I'm sorry Mark, I failed you...."

@hex9757

Жыл бұрын

The Upchucks are the real heroes of this

@sberky98

Жыл бұрын

HELP WHY DO I WANNA DRAW THIS

@timmer919hep

Жыл бұрын

@@sberky98 Do it

@justaguyonyoutube4592

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think he cares, OP. Stop pretending as if they do and you’ll come to find out you’ll be much less disappointed that way and more in-tune with how common this sorta thing is.

DaftPina is a very controversial dude due to past dramas he's been in, like saying Jaiden Animations was faking her anorexia story. I kinda believe the conspiracy theory that he used Just Stop as a puppet/scapegoat to talk about this because if he did it himself, he would get a lot more backlash

@yggdrasil2

Жыл бұрын

Isn't he also, like a friend of Mark's?

@lxi..

Жыл бұрын

@@yggdrasil2 if he is, I don't think we've ever heard Mark talk about DaftPina or vise versa

@yggdrasil2

Жыл бұрын

@@lxi.. Yes Mark had, he featured Pena in his South Park video and defended him in his video on online critics.

@lxi..

Жыл бұрын

@@yggdrasil2 ohhh ok, I haven't gotten around to watching that video yet

@yggdrasil2

Жыл бұрын

@@lxi.. Start with the critic video, it's pretty good and short.

came for twitter vs, stayed for sonic

@UNO279

Жыл бұрын

Based

@nwerd7584

Жыл бұрын

your standards really dropped then lol

@imtiredofitallmakeitstop

Жыл бұрын

@@nwerd7584 ok n werd

@piranhalettuce

Жыл бұрын

Came for sonic, stayed for sonic.

@ermant7285

Жыл бұрын

@@piranhalettuce came for sonic

Additional fact. Cosmodore tried to Groom LS Mark. It’s possible that Just Stop was convinced this girl was doing the same thing. Just Stop has definitely burned some bridges

@PhoenixAce

Жыл бұрын

Apparently mark and JS are talking in private

@mrboerger1620

Жыл бұрын

@@PhoenixAce wait until SplashDash hears about this.

@sberky98

Жыл бұрын

@@mrboerger1620 holy crap dont let splashdash know

@PhoenixAce

Жыл бұрын

@@mrboerger1620 do not invoke splashdash

@slimebunny5700

Жыл бұрын

@@mrboerger1620 I have never heard of them tbh

Mark is only 20 years old, and was cheated on by the person he would marry only months later. This can end up really badly. It's blatantly toxic, regardless of it was JSs place to say so. The cats out of the bag.

@negativezero8174

Жыл бұрын

Cheated on him with a dude twice his age. Fucking ouch

@baligong3592

Жыл бұрын

@@negativezero8174 Sounds Predatory if it wasn't for the fact that they're adults. Even then, a person twice someone's age knows a lot more than a 20 year old.

@lxi..

Жыл бұрын

@@baligong3592 I think it depends on when they met more than anything. I heard rumors that the two met when Mark was only 17. That's a red flag right there

@yggdrasil2

Жыл бұрын

@@baligong3592 Veronica is not 40 lol

@baligong3592

Жыл бұрын

@@yggdrasil2 Who's the dude @Negative Zero is referring to then?

i was planning on uploading a Twitter VS video today but I couldn't due to things out of my control ill upload it tomorrow instead

@Kircic

Жыл бұрын

love it brother keep it coming bro have a good night

@devinsauls9137

Жыл бұрын

It's Cyrus, isn't it? People need to know Bowblax

@trashboat5388

Жыл бұрын

Bro the audio for your voice is a little too loud

@hex9757

Жыл бұрын

I don't think you're my type of guy but I love The Upchucks

@WarSaw3653

Жыл бұрын

epic

Oney and mark both got cheated on by the same girl in the span of not even a full year

To be fair, JS deleted the video and put out a statement apologizing for it. I don’t think we should be so harsh on him, he’s got a hell of a lot more maturity than most people on this platform

@zachanikwano

Жыл бұрын

He still made a video on exposing someone else's marriage and baited him into a call. He's not mature, he's embarrassed.

@sydfrog_

Жыл бұрын

@@zachanikwano I disagree. The fact that he didn’t double down shows that he knows he fucked up and he owned up to his mistakes, still more mature than a bunch of KZreadrs on here, which is the point I was trying to make

@yggdrasil2

Жыл бұрын

That's cool. But I think using his cartoon avatar and that clusterf*ck of a thumbnail still reflects really badly on him. The fact that he put this much work into talking about his friends personal life in such a distasteful way, kinda reflects badly of him regardless of how quickly he removed it. That being said I still prefer this behaviour like 60% of all other creators on this platform.

@sydfrog_

Жыл бұрын

@@yggdrasil2 fair point I agree it was in poor taste too

@betheguy_posts

Жыл бұрын

"JS deleted the video and put out a statement apologizing for it." And that... makes it okay? Gee I just broke this dinner plate. Glad apologizing to it made the plate unbroken, now everything's fine.

Honestly I question how much of JS's video was him, and how much was daft pina saying "include this, it'll be fine 🙂".

@VenIGuess

Жыл бұрын

Agreed honestly.

@SmartAlec1

Жыл бұрын

well

Bowblax is now part of the ls mark marriage Canon my God how far you've come from recording in 144p this Sonic game and then coming straight back to this

Saying “if he was making fun of Mark and calling him a loser I’d be on board” seems like a dick thing to say

Just stop, Just needs to stop with getting into other peoples relationships

@UNO279

Жыл бұрын

Agreed also wordplay

@superik408

Жыл бұрын

Loved the joke with his name lol

@moises3640

Жыл бұрын

I like his content but he went to far

@hex9757

Жыл бұрын

Just stop needs to stop not being subbed to The Upchucks

@yggdrasil2

Жыл бұрын

You mean he has done that before?

9:58 Saying people are entitled to privacy is ironic, since Bowblax kept the video of Ding Dong's situation on the internet, despite Ding Ding not wanting people to keep talking about it.

@absolutezerochill2700

Жыл бұрын

but at the same time, he's exposing something crappy that happened to ding dong and exposing game grumps bowblax just wanted people to know what the game grumps team did, not wanting people to go to ding dong and ask "HEY WHAT HAPPENED WITH GAME GRUMPS" he wasn't really digging into like just stop or exposing private matters either, Ding Dong willingly said these things out loud

@TwitterVS

Жыл бұрын

Info isn't private when you willingly share it to thousands of viewers live

@absolutezerochill2700

Жыл бұрын

@@tomaremerald wait, did DD actually do that? Can you link a tweet or something?

@MartezAnims

Жыл бұрын

@@TwitterVS i agree with what you did , but when you put it like that it nakes you sound like you belong on kiwi-farms man , try to word it a LITTLE better?

@MartezAnims

Жыл бұрын

@@TwitterVS also try not to use that arguement to begin with when they reached out for you to take it down.

Plot twist: Just Stop really couldn’t talk about Monsters Inc as well without reviewing marriage

I saw the video when it came out. It was really weird to see someone make a full blown video about someone else's relationship. What Veronica did may have been fucked up in a relationship (accused of cheating, manipulation, dependence, and some other minor things that I can't remember now), but it wasn't anything really out there. It was their business and should have stayed in that relationship and addressed with the parties involved, and shouldn't have been made public.

@artofcujo

Жыл бұрын

Even if the relationship sucks and his description of it is 100% accurate it wasn't his business to leak the details

@hex9757

Жыл бұрын

You should see new Upchuck videos as soon as they come out

@BrianBarrettWilson

Жыл бұрын

Based

@hex9757

Жыл бұрын

@@BrianBarrettWilson not as based as The Upchucks?

@slimebunny5700

Жыл бұрын

I feel someone that abusive honestly shouldn't have an audience tbh so it might of been to spread awareness about her and grab marks attention at the same time since in private mark refused help.

I feel like JS had the right intentions but went about it in the completely wrong direction especially without asking Mark

@HarleyQuinnGoon

Жыл бұрын

The thing is: JustStop talked to Mark about the marriage thing, Mark told him that he doesn’t want to hear it, JS makes & drops the video, got drug by the internet, in an interview said “I don’t know if I’ll delete the video” then did a 180 after being hammered by multiple creators, took down the video then gave a half assed apology. That’s what happened.

@StrawberryShartCak3

Жыл бұрын

​@@HarleyQuinnGoonOk?

Bowlbax: wow I can't believe someone would reveal that they have a toxic relationship Bowlbax you literally do that for a money, at least this guy is doing it to help his friend

@noomloom535

Жыл бұрын

Im not gonna JS but yea drama youtubers would of made videos of this drama to milk it no matter what caused it and act morally ok with doing it and bowblax is no exception

@absolutezerochill2700

Жыл бұрын

yeah but he's also not leaking dm's or lying to a guy to make private matters public, everything bowblax talks about is out in the open, he's just using his platform to expose it

@bashfulwolfo6499

Жыл бұрын

@@absolutezerochill2700 despite the fact that certain victims don’t want their stuff exposed and have asked them to remove videos involving them. Genuinely shitty thing to do even if you think it’s the “good” thing to do

@KingSlimeProductions

Жыл бұрын

@@absolutezerochill2700he’s no different, drama is drama, and it pays the bills.

KZreadrs trying not to turn their friendships into viral hit-pieces challenge (IMPOSSIBLE).

This video was very weird to me when I first watched it but it took me a little longer than I'm proud of to see the full lengths of how absolutely creepy it is. The fact that 3 different people were confused by why someone is very defensive about their personal life especially after being lied to and almost recorded baffles me. Mark not posting about his marriage can come down to multiple reasons that are no ones business except the people in the marriage. You can try to help your friend out (privately) but once they're like "nah I feel like there's a connection here" you back off since they have the final say. This wreaks of thinking everything should be online and as someone who promotes sharing as little personal stuff as possible, I was perfectly fine with thinking Mark and Veronica were just good friends. Sidenote: I like the little tidbits of talking about what's happenibg in Adventure 2 in between the video discussion.

The one thing that threw me off about the relationship was that Mark is 20 and Veronica is 28. They're both adults, and age gaps can happen in relationships between adults, so it's legal. But the fact that V is almost 30 and Mark is way younger than her is just...idk it threw me off.

@momoiskewl

Жыл бұрын

this ratio threw me off

@sydfrog_

Жыл бұрын

@@momoiskewl loser

@wontonschannel

Жыл бұрын

If some 30 year old dude was dating a girl that basically just turned 18, people would call him a pedophile.

@momoiskewl

Жыл бұрын

@@sydfrog_ lose this ratio

@juliantonnera8539

Жыл бұрын

@@momoiskewl wtf bro

If everything JustStop is true then they got one hell of a toxic relationship. But it wasn't really up to him to expose anything. Good on him though for actually taking the video down 20min after uploading

At the end of the day, I don't think Just Stop had any bad intent behind what he was doing, but clearly it was not his place to expose private information. Had he just called out Sonny and Veronica for their shitty behavior, it would've been fine, but his dumbass had to bring Mark into it. Let's just give him his Ws for baninging a chick 8 yrs his senior and leave it at that.

@ratrat9241

Жыл бұрын

that’s not really a W

@waterh2o299

Жыл бұрын

If he had bad intentions he wouldn't have taken down the video so not trying to be rude but No dip Sherlock

@tacosunbirth

Жыл бұрын

A much older woman manipulating an autistic kid is not a W

@wourydiallo1445

Жыл бұрын

@@waterh2o299 my dude no need to censor it

@namkia205

Жыл бұрын

@@ratrat9241 Yes it's the opposite

Didn't know the whole veronica situation and how she cheated with so many people, explains why she isn't involved with Oney anymore.

@yggdrasil2

Жыл бұрын

I don't think I come off as an armchair psychologist for saying this, but she clearly has some issues. Props to Oney for not making it a big deal *cough *cough.

@_thog

Жыл бұрын

@Yggdrasil nah you got a good point, I was wondering why he stopped even mentioning the dog Veronica had that he called his own, wench

@yggdrasil2

Жыл бұрын

That is, if any of this is true, which is difficult to tell rn

@_thog

Жыл бұрын

@@yggdrasil2 not hard to believe tho, seems quite realistic

@yggdrasil2

Жыл бұрын

@@_thog We shall see, after deleting the video, JS flat out stated that a majority of his claims were based on pure assumptions.

My opinion on JSs vid is as such: The video should not have been made, it is far too personal for public discourse. The points made in the video were not wrong. Mark is clearly in a very imbalanced relationship and something irks me about a 28 year old woman dating a 20 year old man, I feel if the roles were reversed here then people would be turning their scorn moreso towards the person being called out rather than the person doing the calling. The relationship will collapse like the 3rd floor of the Versailles Wedding Hall, and there is not a damned chance they stay together for more than a few years. That's my opinion on the situation. Thoughts on the video are: you're sort of treating the difference between an 18 year old and a 20 year old as if it's a 40 year age gap. You also act like JS being asexual somehow invalidates his views on their relationship, as if not having first hand experience somehow makes you incapable of giving a valid opinion. Some of this video does sort of seem like a "you get no bitches" response as a lot of your criticism boils down to "lol, get laid bro, U just jelly". I do understand this isn't a scripted video, but a good portion of the arguments do boil down to that "no bitches" response, which does nothing to prove him wrong, and only serves to make you look bad, not him.

@yggdrasil2

Жыл бұрын

I do think their main sentiment actually makes a lot of sense. Like, what compells someone to comment on the relatipnship of people who are much more experienced than them? And isn't it a little weird that he acted like he was worried, while at the same time using his cartoon sona like this and that thumbnail? Sidenote, I feel like men dating younger women is a lit more normalized in today's culture than the other way around.

@PhoenixAce

Жыл бұрын

@@yggdrasil2 I feel like the thumbnail doesn’t entirely disprove him feeling like he’s trying to help tho I will agree it wasn’t good

@yggdrasil2

Жыл бұрын

@@PhoenixAce LSOS! Take this seriously! At best it's incredibly tone deaf.

@ZyroShadowPony

Жыл бұрын

Correct me if im wrong but doesnt asexual have a few differences depending on the individual? You can be asexual but still want romantic relationships or no to both physical and emotional

@alexgomez6723

Жыл бұрын

You know Mark is an adult who can make his own decisions?

Good the Braxton took the critique well but I'm getting flashbacks to that god-awful Daft Pina video on the odds1sout where Daft releases a black girls testimony when she didn't want it public and speculated that he and SomethingElseYT had a falling out. I gotta wonder if Daft was the mastermind of all this. All congrats on being made canon in the LSMark lore

I understand that this is a pretty serious situation, but I can't read that title out loud without laughing. It sounds like a meme, honest to God

Tbf, yes, there is not like an average time for people to date before getting married, but I mean, if it's with a person that has previously cheated on, few times, you may wanna take some time before doing that decision....

Man is talking about real relationship like it’s a cartoon

This is stuff I expect DaftPina to do, never would I ever expect JustStop to be this way

@lxi..

Жыл бұрын

I think DaftPina used JS as a puppet tbh. Maybe it was his idea but got Just Stop to carry it out

@dillontyler3002

Жыл бұрын

The way I see it, Daft and Braxton found out what happened. Braxton reached out to Mark but was frustrated when he wouldn't end the relationship. Daft convinces Braxton to make the video, and Braxton, trying to help his friend however he can, obliges. Obviously it was a mistake, but when watching JS's video, I don't see a single sign of malicious intent

@Guilmonhero

Жыл бұрын

I think expecting DaftPina to make a video like that was *exactly* the reason Mark asked Daft if he was going to do it and not Just Stop. Because causing drama like this is Daft's MO after all.

@baligong3592

Жыл бұрын

@@lxi.. I'm incline to believe this for how manipulative and vile that man is, while hiding behind a Neutral stance.

14:30 just a random interesting fact: The length partners date before getting married actually correlates to divorce rates

@alexcat6685

Жыл бұрын

OH NO! Thats intersting

@mrboerger1620

Жыл бұрын

That's tight

@yggdrasil2

Жыл бұрын

How?

@LancerinCompany

Жыл бұрын

@@yggdrasil2 theres no definitive reason as to why, but studys show youre 20% more likely to not divorce if you waited a year or two, three years is even more It might have something to do with testing the waters long-term and the average relationship that dosent workout realizing it within this timespan, but thats just speculation

I don't think I've heard of this LSMark stuff, so I'm actually learning things from this Sonic podcast lol

I think “Why do I need to tell you” is the smartest response I’ve ever heard to something like this. Don’t try and defend yourself or explain it to someone who has no business knowing, just straight ask why they should know this to begin with. Especially since most of the time, most people who are conducting these like, interviews are not gonna have a justifiable answer. You can literally win the little game they’re playing with just 1 simple question.

There's just some situations that need to be handled privately instead of on the internet

@darthmader057mmm6

Жыл бұрын

As much as I agree with this, our entertainment is much more important

Didn't she cheat on Chris, too? I saw someone on Twitter expose her patterns of cheating

@dillontyler3002

Жыл бұрын

Yup, confirmed by Mark himself in a DM. Also cheated on Mick, I believe

@ekahnoman7331

Жыл бұрын

I'm guessing it's the whole "hot gamer girl" thing that attracts all the same guys to her. The fact that she's an animator, she's into retro nerdy things, and she's attractive, it leaves them thinking "yes, my dream girl, she does exist". And so they get all wrapped up in the infatuation and excitement of it all.

@wourydiallo1445

Жыл бұрын

@@ekahnoman7331 I dunno dude seems a but judgy. But still, pretty weird that it's similar guys that end up getting in a relationship with her

@darthmader057mmm6

Жыл бұрын

@@ekahnoman7331 Shes ugly

@unfunnyguy1530

11 ай бұрын

if only just stop cared enough to do more outside research instead of digging himself a hole by revealing personal info from when she was already with mark. he only made the video about that because he somewhat has contact with mark, he didn't even really care for veronica that much even though she's really the focal point of the whole situation and not mark

Everyone pretty much agrees that just stop was pretty much manipulated by daft into making the video I'm glad just stop realize his mistakes and took down the video and apologize I also feel bad for Mark having his personal relationship and life being talked about on the internet yes his wife did some not so nice stuff but it doesn't give people the right to harass Mark about it or talk him out of their relationship while just stop had good intentions he should have gone to mark and talked about it privately

@ninjdraw8305

Жыл бұрын

Why and how Daft still has fans who find him reliable is astonishing.

@yggdrasil2

Жыл бұрын

That's kinda shitty of Daft since Mark has defended him kn the past and even had him guest one of the segments in his South Park video.

@absolutezerochill2700

Жыл бұрын

probably with Just Stop's video felt a lot like Daft's 2nd Odd1sOut, like one or two pieces of actually damning evidence and then just trying to find out as much breadcrumbs and nothingburgers as possible to drag their name through the mud

@darthmader057mmm6

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad daft did this i don't think he realizes but we got some good entertainment out of that

Thst whole video was literally the "damn I kinda...don't care" meme for me when it was uploaded

Jesus Christ...terminally online is legitimately becoming an epidemic. God damn.

im the same age as mark that type of video would put me in an anxious spot eternally

I like the concept behind this video but I have a few points: 1. This series being drama related wasn't exactly clear from the getgo, I thought you were doing a game commentary thing on the side. 2. You have a good dynamic with your friend going a bit more off-colour. You don't need to match his energy everytime, it works better if you're a little more reserved. 3. Your mic seems a little loud

@TwitterVS

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback

@fishbtw5908

Жыл бұрын

Agreeable

@squabbbb

Жыл бұрын

@@TwitterVS no worries man! I enjoyed the video, probably should've made that clearer. It's a cool direction for your channel and it's clear you're having fun filming them, definitely going to be checking out the channel more often if this is something you're going to stick with

@shinai4307

Жыл бұрын

Also no need to laugh, this is marks life.

It was really childish of Stop to out their relationship problems but I can see where he was coming from since he cared about his friend Mark and didn't want him to be hurt by his wife again. Does not defend his action of posting it on KZread.

@VenIGuess

Жыл бұрын

This ^^^

@sprungle

Жыл бұрын

They aren't friends, so there isn't even _that_ to defend him 😭

@ninjdraw8305

Жыл бұрын

@Sprungle They are though. Met once irl doesnt correlate to how much time they've talked to each other online.

@sprungle

Жыл бұрын

@@ninjdraw8305 Do we know if they've even talked to each other online regularly?

@ninjdraw8305

Жыл бұрын

@Sprungle Do we know if they didnt? For Just Stop to be able to do what he did he wouldve at least have to have been friends with the guy. What makes you think they werent?

Absolutely loving these sonic videos while talking about what’s goin on, could watch this all day

It's like the cartoon commentary community is a chess match between groomers/manipulators and young adults and no one is winning

Just Sign the divorce papers

Just stop is just a silly kid Daftpina has no excuse

Just Stop was my favorite commentary guy because he had the most reasonable takes and arguments. I never thought he would pull some stunt like this.

@lancelancer8313

Жыл бұрын

Tbf he did it because he seems to genuinely care.

@kevsimoes

Жыл бұрын

he didnt do it for mal intent he did it cause he thought it was helping. hes a good person he already apologized and thats it,

@PhoenixAce

Жыл бұрын

Calling this a stunt is a bit much it was a stupid mistake with good intentions

@tigerfestivals5137

Жыл бұрын

@@kevsimoes yeah maybe my wording was off but he's the last guy I would expect to fuck up like this in the first place. I'm aware he apologized and all.

@dillontyler3002

Жыл бұрын

In all fairness, he's still young. Plus it seems like the people around him (daftpina included) were encouraging this like crazy. On the bright side, the video wasn't a complete flop. It revealed how much of an asshole SonnyTM is, so that's great

The most chocking thing about this whole situation is the fact the LSmark is married I kind of thought Veronica was just a random woman he made a podcast with and it feels weird cause we are basically the same age and hes older than me by a few months

Tbh I was more shocked when I heard Veronica cheated on OneyNG that's the last guy I want cheated on he's what inspired me to pursue comedy and the age difference is super big now that I think about it Chris is in his 30's and was dating Veronica so that meanschris and Veronica are similar in age when LsMark is only 20 knowing this now this feels weird and uncomfortable and this must be embarrassing for Mark but like there's a lot of weird shit going on not necessarily illegal but if it did get out it would surely make fans mad and I dont know how it didn't to come to light sooner now that I think about it everything in this video is correct I agree with these guys but these are the observations and opinions I've made learning about this

He might have told the truth but yea it’s a bit disrespectful to get in their personal life.

"Well they're married now they're happy" I now understand why he assumes the marriage is good. It's cope.

@micjimster4845

3 ай бұрын

I mean we don't know man. Maybe don't assume...

The only thing weird to me is I only found out that Veronica wasn't with Oney anymore, only found out because of the drama

@ma_junia

Жыл бұрын

Mick's shit monkey was better than Chris's

@thevanillafeziant

Жыл бұрын

They’ve been broken up for I think like 2 years. But yeah if anything this exposes a light on her character. I could tell something was off about her just couldn’t put my finger on it. And now since she couldn’t keep a guy her own age under her control. She decided to marry someone so much younger than her and someone who’s vulnerable. It’s freaking gross.

I actually saw the video when shortly after it was released. The entire time I was thinking about Idubs and his relationship. Like that guy got torn to shreds over his gf's career choices and all her other shit, and I couldn't help but think about how Mark is gonna get dragged into every mistake or bad thing his partner does by association despite how unfair that might be.

@lindyxyo4254

Жыл бұрын

That shit always baffled me. I figured his audience was slightly less basement dwelly than that but apparently not. Gotta love everyone painting him as a "simp". As if he's some loser donating in her chat and not fucking married to her, lmao. Also equating selling lewd photos that could be in a damn over the counter magazine to her being a straight up streetwalking prostitute. Goes to show how few of these people have anything even resembling real world experience. Same with these lot. Really no different.

@KingSlimeProductions

Жыл бұрын

This is Very different from idubbbz, no idea why you’d bring him up.

Just because someone is asexual doesn't mean they don't understand how relationships work, other than that, kinda agree that its creepy how JS looked into dudes relationship like that

@alexcat6685

Жыл бұрын

Just as yes, someone who has the experince can have a more accurate view on the matter.(thats where LS Mark should've been the one the say something) That doesn't mean a person with someone understanding of it can't understand it, Just stop maybe Asexual but he ain't psychopath even psychopaths understand relationships despite not really being able to. Its more about knowlegde than experince, as its better to learn from someoneelse than just yourself. I also agree Just stop wen't too into the personal stuff, i get his intentions where to not have his bud or acuiance suffer. Just the way he did it was to quick, too personal he needed to allow mark to explain it instead, as he would've.

@PhoenixAce

Жыл бұрын

I feel like this is a horrible take JS clearly thinks Mark is in an abusive relationship looking deep into that isn’t creepy at all tho uploading the video without marks permission is the step too far

@baconsarny-geddon8298

Жыл бұрын

lol "asexual" is just textbook gender-special- "I'm hetero, not trans... but I really want SOMETHING to put in my Twitter bio, as a substitute for actually having a personality..." It's even more pointless nothing-ness than claiming to be "trans non-binary"- at least THEY have to wear kooky clothes, and have bad haircuts.

@Haquize

Жыл бұрын

Even if someone isn’t ace if you’re only 18 it’s fair to say you have little to no experience on how relationships work since you’re just barely no longer a kid and dating as a teen vs dating as an adult are very different things.

@absolutezerochill2700

Жыл бұрын

but he's also AROace at 18 personally I'm not sure if he's completely aromantic, probably just hasn't met anyone who made him feel that way at his age but disregarding all that, he is a kid, and not a kid who really has any business in mark's marriage

i'm only here for sonic adventure 2 tbh

Just Stop sounds like he doesn't know what is and isn't KZread content anymore. I also don't know if I'm even surprised Daft Pina is in on this when he bashed Jaiden Animations for not wanting to show her face due (at least in part) to her eating disorder.

I'm currently battling breast cancer and I've been binging your videos while in the hospital. Keep it up bowblax

@Saltedroastedcaramel

Жыл бұрын

Here's hoping for your recovery

@MangoMagica

Жыл бұрын

Good luck with everything and I hope you make a full recovery 💕

@drachenzahne9262

Жыл бұрын

You can do it! You got this!

@KingSlimeProductions

Жыл бұрын

Watch better content, this is not a good use of your final moments

@frankdav4087

Жыл бұрын

@@KingSlimeProductions these aren't my final moments, treatment has been going very well for me. And I'll watch whatever I want, but thank you

"Nooooo guys don't mess with that guy, we know we've been milking this for a week but nooooooo don't send him more h8 to make more kantent nooo"

i would not be opposed if you started uploading sonic commentary more often bowblax

Just Stop needs to *JUST STOP* & leave people alone!

Just Stop should read his channel's name and take it's advice at this point.

These dramas you guys talk about get crazier and crazier Lmao

Bro never tell KZreadrs anything they will make a mini doc about it

This literally the same as a grandma being invested in a cheesy mexican soap opera

This is the I consent, I don't Consent meme, lol

@marlom7882

Жыл бұрын

The what?

@cynoflads

Жыл бұрын

@@marlom7882 tldr meme where some weirdo is pissed over a couple's dating practices.

I love how you completely changed the way you make videos and just no one minds lmao you do you bowbe

@TwitterVS

Жыл бұрын

Some people mind lol

@PhoenixAce

Жыл бұрын

@@TwitterVS seems a lot of people mind lol time to go back to Twitter Vs I personally used to watch every one of your vids now I only watch half

I’m 18 years old and I wouldn’t do no video like this honestly.

When your genuinely not surprised daft pinas involved this is his entire mo and just stops a known fanboy of him

Just stop thought he cooking up a masterpiece when he really burnt food he wasn’t supposed touch

This is what a slow news day looks like in that community

Let’s be honest, if Daft uploaded the video, it would have had a completely different reaction. It’s just because Braxton posted it that it had the reaction it did.

As soon as he brought up DaftPina I knew things were going to go south a lot faster than they already were going.

The constant attacking JS's asexualilty pisses me off because it basically shows a lack of understanding how Asexual people are. Being ace doesn't mean you completely unable to understand how relationships work. Ace people being either in relationships or knowing how relationships works isn't new. You don't have to be married to know when someone is in a toxic or bad relationship

@666Shinedown

Жыл бұрын

JS is 18 and is acting like some arbiter of justice on what and how relationships should work lmao Mf literally Googled "How long in a relationship before marriage" to somehow reinforce his point plus putting the dude in the spotlight and trying to wrench out information about his personal life. I'm not saying asexual people are unable to understand relationships, but I AM saying JS doesn't understand relationships and gets no bitches.

@absolutezerochill2700

Жыл бұрын

just stop is also aro and 18, meaning he definitely never been in a romantic relationship before and it doesn't change the fact that even if he was, Mark's marriage is not his business

@Austin-LA

Жыл бұрын

@@absolutezerochill2700 being aroace literally has nothing to do with they situation and literally means nothing. Constantly bringing it up as a point is just ignorant and a low blow that's my point.

@Austin-LA

Жыл бұрын

@@666Shinedown to be for real this is just take the wores interpretation of the guy and assuming the worst intentions. That side comment comment just proves my point. People constantly attacking his sexuality like it has anything to do with video and mark's privacy is really dumb and low blow for no reason

@syep12

Жыл бұрын

@@Austin-LA so are you saying just stop did not invade mark's privacy is so how???

Maybe he’s just an unhealthily obsessed oneyplays fan mad that Chris and Veronica broke up

@slimebunny5700

Жыл бұрын

she cheated

I feel bad for both the dudes involved with this vile woman

@dillontyler3002

Жыл бұрын

The fact that she has cheated on all FOUR partners (Oney, Mark, Mick, and Nathan) speaks volumes about who she is. On one hand, I don't like that this became public. But now hopefully less people will support her in the future

@attackonyugioh92

Жыл бұрын

@@dillontyler3002lol yeah

@jorami4838

Жыл бұрын

@@dillontyler3002 why she only date animation KZreadrs?

@dillontyler3002

Жыл бұрын

@@jorami4838 Idk man, I'm not Veronica. Maybe she just likes internet funnymen? I don't know

@LeonShuriken

Жыл бұрын

@@jorami4838 she was e-trading her pussy for clout

Commentary while playing sonic is unexpected thing im hyped to watch.

Just so everyone knows Just Stop did apologize take the video down and everything he could so far rn.

Bro, made a 6 hour long video on Spongebob, South Park, Simpsons, and Family Guy. I could’ve told you he might not have the best marriage bruh

If I made that video, I would’ve focused on the awful things Veronica and sunny did specifically, and not bring attention to anything involving mark.

The real LS Mark died a while ago this one is merely an A.I just stop clearly has no idea what hes talking about.

So weird learning about Veronica Rice Pirate and Oney after the end of sleepycabin, its going to be weird rewatching those videos

@Brave_New_Tube

Жыл бұрын

Idk much about this situation other than Veronica being a serial cheater. Was Mick the reason Chris and Veronica split? That’s sad as fuck if true.

The only thing I'll say about this video is as someone who is ace and on the aro spectrum (not aro just on the spectrum) ace people can be in relationships as it's a lack of sexual attraction not romantic attraction so plenty of people who are ace date as well as have sex as being ace is a spectrum so different people have different levels of comfortability as sexual attraction isn't necessary to want to have sex, some ace people have it because they like the intimacy, some have it to make their partners happy, some do it simply because they enjoy it some don't do it at all and some are only comfortable giving the sexual touches rather than receiving them, it just depends on who you are! HOWEVER people who are aromantic (which Braxton also is) lack romantic attraction and don't date they can have intense platonic relationships with someone special such as qpr's but once again that depends on the person not every aro person would want that and would prefer an average friendship I'd suggest watching jaden animations video on the topic if they want a quick concise explanation on what being aroace means or what being aro and ace in general means But I did enjoy the video, and I think the situation is a bit ridiculous, mark could have a bad marriage sure but if the marriage isn't even public i don't personally think it should be public it's something that should be kept private lest they have the Internet bombard them with personal questions regarding their relationship I just thought I should let people know as someone who is ace and on the aro spectrum! (Once again not aro i do experience romantic attraction its just extremely rare and limited) to avoid the spread of misinformation regarding the ace and aro orientations ^^

@absolutezerochill2700

Жыл бұрын

okay i admittedly didn;t really understand what you meant by most of this comment all i could really tell is "Just stop is aroace and probably doesn't understand relationships" that being said, you could have mentioned how both Chris and Mark are much more introverted while Veronica was much more socially dependent , so that's probably where the schism grew

@buttermilk5870

Жыл бұрын

@@absolutezerochill2700 oh I didn't comment that to commentate on Mark's relationship I only commented as they along side a few other KZreadrs would continuously state that he's ace so he couldn't even understand relationships which is an understandable mistake to make so I thought I should just comment this to make people more aware of the difference between asexual and aromantic so they know the correct terms to use in the future ^^

@absolutezerochill2700

Жыл бұрын

@@buttermilk5870 okay... he's aroace though personally speaking he's just a kid who probably just hasn't met anyone who made him feel that, but we're all entitled to our opinions

@Commenter839

Жыл бұрын

@@absolutezerochill2700 That's kinda a weird thing to say. If he said he was straight, would that imply that he just hasn't found a good man yet? 18 is generally plenty old enough to know if you're straight, gay, both, or neither.

I like these gaming vids with willy

idk if it’s cuz i’m aromantic but relationships are the most uninteresting thing ever, i can’t fathom someone got so invested in someone ELSE’S relationship like this

@SpringDavid

Жыл бұрын

toxic relationships...i think? I quite literally dont even know wtf is going on

@mayborneflower

Жыл бұрын

@@SpringDavid Basically Mark’s secret wife cheated on him repeatedly, is known to shit talk anyone who isn’t immediately useful to her (including Mark himself fresh off a breakup) or able to prove she’s full of it, and she inserted herself as far into Mark’s life as humanly possible when he was considering cutting her off so he’d be dependent on her. She really ain’t good for him. Well that’s what I remember now that video’s been pulled.

@absolutezerochill2700

Жыл бұрын

@@mayborneflower it's been reuploaded

@180fuckalotseveneleven3

Жыл бұрын

@@absolutezerochill2700 by other people, make sure to say that

@bashfulwolfo6499

Жыл бұрын

Nah it def isn’t just an aro thing. I’ve been in a relationship with my first bf for 10 years now and I genuinely don’t care much for other people’s relationships, I’ll gladly listen to my friends talk about theirs and I’m genuinely worried when it comes to toxicity, but I would never dig into their personal life like this. I get worrying about your friend but this sorta stuff can be traumatic.

The DK Kongess cannot stop cheating, must be using game shark.

@_mango_

Жыл бұрын

“oh stop bragging” 😂😂

I love how you guys just fart on the situation and joke about it with a little bit of sonic jokes

They should record just stop's ls mark interrogation but with the sonic characters

When I watched the video Just Stop originally posted, I watched it in the mindset of watching a Fredrick Knudsen video or the like where we take a deep dive into an old youtuber, and then after it finished I remembered, this is an ongoing thing, these people are still active and none of this was public knowledge that has come out over the years. This dude straight up leaked and doxxed a marriaged, holy fuck this guys insane.

Love these new videos

Bruh these gaming vids are good man. I subbed a year ago for the straight to the point twitter drama vids but these type of vids are good, I'd watch a bowblax letsplays

Why even make a video on this situation?

Just Stop tried to use to his massive audience/ the entire internet to pressurize Mark to divorce his wife and end his friendship with SonnyTM!

@PhoenixAce

Жыл бұрын

This is such an unhinged assumption

I love that they're playing Sonic Adventure 2 while talking about Just Stops shitty video. Daftpina clearly just wanted a hit piece on ls mark, he was the one calling the shots and he was the one making "theory crafting" of the script and he's done this many times before.

Bowblax I just wanted to say you're my favorite person to listen to I love how chill but chaotic good you sound, heaven to my ears

Dude, I don’t know Mark at all but I have followed him for almost as long as you and he’s just a genuenly sweet dude who gets shit on like once a year. It’s fucking sad man, I don’t think there is anyone else that I genuinely just wish the best for. All this is so fucked, he’s just a sweet dude who wants to make cartoon videos, everyone needs to stop fucking with this kid.

Bowblax & Willy's LP of Sonic Adventure 2 > TurkeyTom's Minecraft game that they restarted three times now.

If I ever get famous online I'm just not gonna have any friends or partners, because this is appearantly the price of having those relationships.