JUST RELEASED! New RadioMaster ExpressLRS Hardware: ELRS just grew up a little more..
Full Links to be added once I can see the final URLs:
Ranger ELRS Radio: www.radiomasterrc.com/product...
Ranger Micro ELRS Module: www.radiomasterrc.com/product...
Ranger Nano ELRS Module: www.radiomasterrc.com/product...
New T Antenna: www.radiomasterrc.com/product...
New Moxon Antenna: www.radiomasterrc.com/product...
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Perfect timing on this one…great distraction as Nicole rages outside. THX!!
As always a fantastic review Lee! Both as a retailer and personal hobbyer I follow you from the beginning thank to the always very clear and comprehensive reviews and tutorials! So great to hear that you like the new ranger ELRS modules!
Really impressive devices, Lee! Fantastic review! 😃 And I absolutely agree, I wouldn't buy ELRS stuff from many other companies today. I just hope they start making 900mhz stuff as well! Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@k5utc
Жыл бұрын
there really are few options for 900mhz
Also worth mentioning is that the fancy full size version is actually capable of 2W, but that requires a small firmare mod because they can't legally sell it as such. Wezley Varty made a video about it.
@Painless360
Жыл бұрын
That was supposed to be hush hush... Happy flying
Very cool I just got my TBS crossfire module and it was super easy to update and bind. This is why I didn't go ELS I'm not a computer guy and seemed to be complicated way over my head!!! Hopefully this makes it easier for us bnf guys lol!!! I love that its made by Radiomaster just got my RM controller Outstanding piece of equipment. Thanks for the video full of info!!!
@spyder000069
Жыл бұрын
You made the right choice. ELRS can be a giant pain to update. Some manufactures are better than others. I had a module and receiver that would refuse to update over the web interface and after an hour of messing with them I found a work around. This is coming from a guy who develops with the esp chips used in the modules. TBS has it down. Update the radio via usb and the radio can then update any of the receivers over the air. Its so simple I can't believe ELRS didn't try to duplicate it. My guess is they just took the easy way out since the chips already had wifi instead of developing their own loader program.
@PerceptionFPV
Жыл бұрын
Im also kinda a Bnf guy but elrs is easy once you understand it (other than spi receivers wich are a living hell to setup) but crossfire is definitely still a good choice 👍
Very nice modules......
The whole point to elrs was that it could be a long range system like crossfire or a racing system like tracer or ghost at a price point that was representative of the open source nature of its development. Elrs hardware at the same price point of the competition doesn't make any sense to me. I'll be sticking with HM, betafpv and others. I've been 6km with a quad and 20km with a wing without issue.
@beefybeef1326
Жыл бұрын
Agree with you
@tomevansc
Жыл бұрын
I went and bought the elrs radio Master radio and Maytek receiver and with those two together I still can't even get past 700 m without it saying it's losing connection think I'm going back to R9mm fryskyr9mm I was getting miles and miles out of my flight... So I will not be trusting to buy another elrs product.
@tomevansc
Жыл бұрын
@@marc_frank Smd,, and I have the radio master elrs version and I'm definitely not getting the range with 500 Hertz
@tmc-fpv
Жыл бұрын
@@tomevansc you definitely won't at 500hz. Higher the packet rate the shorter the range. It's the trade-off. 100mw and 150hz is all I use. If I'm racing in the field next to me I'll go to 500hz.
@torpedoLaw
Жыл бұрын
Crossfire who? Hahahahah
Woohoo... first! 🤣🤣 Excellent video Lee. I can say with first-hand experience that RadioMaster is indeed working *with* devs and actively asking for feedback and ideas to improve their products, and ensure that they make good quality gear. As an end user, my experience with RadioMaster was already that they seemed to make good quality product for the money, and now being in more direct contact when them, I cannot praise them enough for their attention to detail, striving to do their bit to improve the hobby for us all. The Ranger module is a great piece of hardware, and also surprised me with the heft of it. For me, the need to remove it from my original MPM TX16S radio is no different to how I used to transport that before - as I also couldn't leave my older CRSF module in without damaging the aerial. I've had no need for its power, and for normal flying have used like 25mw with it set to dynamic power so it can ramp up if it needs to. But there is some piece of mind knowing that the power and range are there if it is ever needed, and with all that aluminium, it could sit there all day (well, if the battery doesn't go flat!) and not miss a beat. I'm sure the other modules are great, and at the end of the day, will suit a lot of people's needs. But for me, it was the versatility of it fitting both Micro and Nano bay that drew me to that module over the others. I'll be interested to see how it goes with Futaba users, as apparently it can be used with their radios also using that cable in the box.
@malte9999
Жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree with you. Engagement and communication with RadioMaster is really great
nice products from RadioMaster
Hope they're planning to launch 865/900mhz as well
I might try out the nano version on my Zorro 4 in 1. Hopefully it runs fine off of the internal batteries and doesn't mess with the form factor too much.
Quite surprised that Radiomaster went into the module market.
I just purchased the zorro with elrs configured on it. Do I still need this module for any extra benefits or is this designed for controllers that don't already have elrs?
Hi, Questions for you. 1. Will the ranger works with FrtySky Horus? 2. Will it work with any Futaba 18 series radios? 3. The radiomaster TX16S Mark II says 4N1 "or" ELRS. What does thsi emans? Does it eman it can be switched between either or?
I don’t fly with FC’s so I have happymodel module and like 3 ex and couldn’t get it to bind
Great review! Can this system be used to stream mav link data from ardupilot to missionplanner?
Would love to see the micro size version with small LCD like TBS. The full size is way to chunky compared to the other two. Maybe a bit thicker but not huge.
@spyder000069
Жыл бұрын
I was a big fan of the lcd on the crossfire equipment. However, now with lua scripts you can get everything right from the radio screen so I don't even look at the lcd anymore. The radio buttons are easier to navigate than the tiny joystick. The ELRS lua is the same situation for me. So I don't see any real advantage of the full ranger other than being able to unlock it to 2 watts.
The bigger radio module should be mounted a bit shifted upwards cause some users use an extended battery case (i have 4x 21700 and a higher case)..
Can the RadioMaster Tx communicate with Bluetooth and accelerometer in the Ranger module? I mean specifically through EdgeTx and the Lua system so that we can use that hardware for interesting things like accelerometer Tx control and/or remote Bluetooth head tracking? Now that would be interesting.
@Painless360
Жыл бұрын
It would... Stay tuned!
Will the higher end version of these 3 work with frsky and dsmx/dsm2 protocols?
They need a 915MHz version JR module.
Pawel did a video on it to.
Is it possible to connect that Arduino Nano 33 ble via Bluetooth to use for head tracking?
Thx Lee! Any news regarding 900 MHz?
@Painless360
Жыл бұрын
Not a lot. 2.4Ghz seems to be the focus at the moment..
Have a question I haven’t seen yet. I have an older taranis running off a 3s lipo, will the full size ranger module have any issues with that?
@Painless360
Жыл бұрын
Should be OK. XT30 Power supply voltage: DC 6V - 16.8V
Awesome, do they have a 900mHz version as well?
@pfeerick
Жыл бұрын
Not yet. I'm sure if there is enough interest they will do one though.
I am wondering why I would choose this micro tx over the betafpv micro tx also capable of 1W... Any advantages?
@Painless360
Жыл бұрын
It is all about the difference in quality, interaction with the ELRS project and the compliance with the specs..
Will this module work with Taranis X9D?
Love the channel an all the help you give. Just a couple of things as I just recently purchased the radiomaster ranger. Very nice product but I noticed a couple of annoying things. Except for the tiny piece of paper on firmware flash, specs and bind etc the was no installation manual and nothing on their website even today. Is there some documentation especially as it took me a while to figure out how to power it on. Also ther seems to be no recommended firmware level for the module, lua script for Express LRS and Radio software version. You mentioned 2.7.1 or greater is there a place you would suggets to get the right combination at the moment? Lastly while you mentioned build quality I found the fan is noisy as there is a constant buzzing sound unless that is somthing else when the module is at 250 mW or above? Could you mention if this is present in the module you have Or have other heard this? Only reason I am asking is if I neeed to return the product if I have a faulty fan. Apart from this looks good and performs well Thank you for this review.
@Painless360
11 ай бұрын
See www.expresslrs.org/ for the basics. ExpressLRS is a great system but nowhere near as simple to use as it could be, yet! Best of luck!
@couchastronmers3292
11 ай бұрын
@Painless360 This is super helpful, and the documentation is easy to follow.
3X modules and no 915mHz? Disappointing, I'll need to stick with my old betafpv 915 :(
Thanks Lee. Wondering what the accelerometer is for in the high end module?
@Painless360
Жыл бұрын
Stay tuned! How about control of something via tilting the radio?
@dg9bfc
Жыл бұрын
Accelerometer can be used to switch power down to 25mw if you put the radio down on table and do not move it for over 20 seconds (call it pit mode)...
Curious Lee, why no youtube creators have done any follow up vids on these? There were a bunch of release videos but no one has done testing vids. I ordered the micro combo package in November and still haven't received it. I know why, I just wish there was more follow up content.
@Painless360
Жыл бұрын
They just work. These are now the modules I use here. Happy flying!
Could you comment on the fan speed/vibration on the nano module? I currently have the Happymodel and it works great, however the one thing I don't like is that it vibrates the Zorro when the fan comes on.
@Painless360
Жыл бұрын
I've not noticed that on the one I have... Happy flying
@bhishanhemrajani1602
Жыл бұрын
@@Painless360 Thank you!
Also, what does the big-expensive version actually do that the others don't? Or are you just paying for a flashy screen that doesn't do anything the radio interface can't?
@Painless360
Жыл бұрын
A few things (higher power for one)...
It's a shame they didn't go with a straight foldable antenna (like the main radio antenna). The T and Moxon antennas often mean the radio doesn't fit back into its original carry case. I have a folding antenna on my BetaFPV module and it means that I just leave the module in all the time. I don't even notice that it's there when I'm not using it.
@Painless360
Жыл бұрын
Radio still fits in the RadioMaster cases I have here... Happy flying
@lightbulbjim
Жыл бұрын
@@Painless360 Fair enough! I have a Q-X7 and it only fits in the case if the module has a folding antenna.
So lowest edge should be top end of battery case.
Is the Radio Master Ranger module compatible with Radio Master TX12..?
@Painless360
Жыл бұрын
Should be.. Happy flying
Still don't know if I will ever get one. Going on 3 months now. Bahhh
Why do they have external power plugs? Do they not work off power from the radio? Hate to have to hang a Lipo off the back to use them.
@Painless360
Жыл бұрын
They are needed for the higher power settings..
@jasonhurdlow6607
Жыл бұрын
@@Painless360 Sounds like a pretty ugly solution to me. You're supposed to strap a Lipo on the back? Talk about kludgy. At what wattage do you need to use one?
@dg9bfc
Жыл бұрын
If you have a batt pack with an xt60 and a balance connector in your tx16s rhen you can run the xt60 to the tx module and the balance connector to the tx16s.. There is a precut hole to run the xt60 and cable through.. Result is that the current for the tx module does not run over the tx16s internals
I just bought a RadioMaster Zorro and I want to buy an ELRS module for it. Can you advise me on which is the best ELRS module for this Radio? Thanks
@Painless360
Жыл бұрын
I ma a fab of the RadioMaster modules but there has been an issue found with powering them from an external battery. See the post in my community section... Best of luck
@carlosnunes2096
Жыл бұрын
@@Painless360 Yes, I heard about that problem, but if you don't use the external power port, you consider this NANO module as the best one, right?
@Painless360
Жыл бұрын
Appears so. I'm waiting on an update from RM once they are all back from CNY. Stay tuned!
With so many RC links available it makes it hard to choose one. There’s a risk of investing in one that drops support.
@Painless360
Жыл бұрын
That's the beauty of ELRS. It isn't owned by a hardware manufacturer and available from lots of places making it a far more viable option for vendor independent flying... Happy flying
Express ELRS fixed the conection lost bug?
@Painless360
Жыл бұрын
Github is the best place to report and check on the status of issues... Best of luck
Is this for Quads only or can a airplane with lets say 8 channel use this also? The Rx are so small - where do you put the servoplugs?
@pfeerick
Жыл бұрын
For the small RXs like the RP1/RP2 you would normally use with a flight controller for either multi-storey, plane, car, etc. But you can get CRSF->SBUS adapter also. But for tradiontal planes, you would want their ER5A/ER5C PWM RX, and stay tuned for RXs with more PWM channels... they're under development.
@HeliZero
Жыл бұрын
@@pfeerick Looking forward to that - thanks. I would really like to try this system one day.
@SonAndDadFPV
Жыл бұрын
You can connect a Sbus to PWM convertor to the receiver. Just make sure you add an extra 5V regulator for the servo's do not connect them to the 5v of the receiver
Will the Nano support Tango 2
@Painless360
7 ай бұрын
Should do, ideally you want EdgeTX on the radio too...
…well that did not went to well…bought 1w nano other brand because radiomaster was yet to be…but got the ranger and its very good but heavy n clumsy n over the top…i like that…hopefully radiomaster survive the nano mishap…they worth it…by the way…who can resist the 2w hack…
Any info on using ELRS with Ethos?
@Painless360
Жыл бұрын
I'm getting confusing messages from Frsky on this so if I get to the bottom of it, I'll make a video... Happy flying
@grumpyrse
Жыл бұрын
@@Painless360 Look forward to this, would be the icing on the cake! Cheers Lee :)
Does it work on taranis x9d plus on opentx 2.3.14.?
@Painless360
Жыл бұрын
Should do but will not support the faster speeds. You need EdgeTX for that..
@zvonimirtrgovcic5499
Жыл бұрын
I great, the only thing I hesitate to switch my taranis to edgetx is because of losing the model and I want R9M to work on flex firmware
How can I get 50+ miles of range? Remote is a tx16s ii.
@Painless360
Жыл бұрын
No idea, in most places that is illegal (it is here in the UK) so I don't have any experience. For trusted long range, most pilots use Crossfire..
@dg9bfc
Жыл бұрын
Here we are only allowed to fly line if sight.. Abd if you use fpv yoz need a spotter.. Wondering how you or your spotter see 50 miles hi hi 50 miles and 2.4 gig?? Thats not easy.. Grin
1W on 2.4 is not a big deal, waiting for someone making >1W 900Mhz and high-power telemetry to compete with crossfire.
@spyder000069
Жыл бұрын
Supposedly the full size ranger can do 2w after modification. I don't believe any receivers to more than 100mw telemetry though.
Why is only 2.4 Ghz? Where is the 900 Mhz?
@MsVideoaccount
Жыл бұрын
because x-fire is better, I guess 8)
Yup a maximal power of 1watt nothing more not at all definitely not able to use 2watts 🤫
Ranger module is suitable for using with a Futaba 14SG radio?
@Painless360
Жыл бұрын
Can it talk CRSF to the module bay?
@juanfeliperinconcolmenares6730
Жыл бұрын
@@Painless360 I don't think so.