Just a side note, some of these dB measuring phone apps are limited by what the phones own microphone can pickup. If 112dB is it's limit, then that all it will ever show.

@vkelly1975

Жыл бұрын

😊

@vkelly1975

Жыл бұрын

😊😊

@vkelly1975

Жыл бұрын

😊

@K707OR30

Жыл бұрын

Good call out. Also unless it’s a pretty high end SPL meter even the lower end dedicated SPL meters are pretty inaccurate. A phone SPL app using its on board mic is probably pretty bad with the accuracy. A re-test with one of the meters used for car audio SPL competitions would be quite interesting

@radfury23g32

Жыл бұрын

I was hoping someone was gonna point that out! The app looked so good that I didn't even realize it was his phone until it topped out at 112 like that

Block walls are very soundproof, it’s the roof that lets the sound escape. Our band practiced in a block garage for years. Once we properly insulated the roof, you could barely hear anything outside. No matter how loud we played.

@raw_pc

Жыл бұрын

Window also tends to resonate a lot

@ourclarioncall

Жыл бұрын

What did you put on the roof ? Also do you think adding an extra internal brick wall would make a big difference?

@GreenDistantStar

Жыл бұрын

@@ourclarioncall insulation batts are great for insulation, duh, and also help with sound diffusion. Put as many baffles as you can on top of them, you're good to go. Unless you're already building anyway, an extra internal wall is not good value. Better to baffle the interior.

@TT-df9hp

Жыл бұрын

It's the low frequencies that are problematic. Higher frequencies like guitar distortion doesn't go through the walls as easy as what the kick drum or bass guitar would.

@ourclarioncall

10 ай бұрын

@@TT-df9hpinteresting . Anything that can be down about those frequencies?

The detection limit of your phone is probably 112 dB.

I love the "shock and awe" in modern videos of cranked Marshall stacks when this was part of a standard rig for any successful local UK rock band back when I started playing in the mid '70s! If you didn't already have a rig like this (or, better still, a proper stack with 2 cabs), it was something you aimed to get before long. Fresh out of high school, I was lucky enough to practise for my first gig at the rehearsal space of one of the main local bands here on the Isle of Wight - a barn packed with a wall of Marshall stacks! No earplugs of course (we didn't even consider using them back then...), but it was a wonderful way to start! Nothing I've played in recent years has ever really compared. 😉

@vox1962

Жыл бұрын

This was just as true in the 1980s and 90s, a 50w Marshall half stack and later a 100w Boogie Mk II, with a Marshall 4x12 was my standard gig rig, and we played loud. And that was just me, we had a second guitarist with a similar rig and a bass player with an SVT WITH 8x10 cab but we weren’t playing in our bedrooms we were in rehearsal spaces and fairly large clubs where people came to actually see the bands, not background music while they had drinks and dinner; those were epic days but they’re gone now

@GreenDistantStar

Жыл бұрын

And around that time, big Orange rigs were about too, and we did Cream covers until our ears were bleeding ;-)

@MrTokyoJunkie

Жыл бұрын

Nothing else sounds like it because your ears are shot mate 🤣

@patricksullivan7140

Жыл бұрын

The Marshall Stack is and always will be the Holy Grail of amps. A thing of glory.

@andytraverse

Жыл бұрын

Too true, now we have forums discussing local venues that have quiet stages , plugging directly into the sound desk etc , bollocks to that! If you can't have your own amp on stage at a decent volume that allows some controlled feedback if you want it, what really is the point?

It is so unbelievably loud I couldn’t bear to jam with a guy who has one and insisted on playing at full volume in his house. He was talented but that amount of pain to use that amp was insane.

Well an arena full of em will kill your hearing. ACDC in 82’ was a monster! It actually made me nervous. Cliffs bass was pounding through my chest, i had to actually hit myself to make sure my heart Rythym was beating on its own beat & not his. Motorhead, 80’s Megadeth some seriously loud chit live

@owlperchedsilo3745

Жыл бұрын

Dennis Perin, yep

@mykeday

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but even in a stadium they don't use the amp to fill it. It's just mic'd up and the pa system is what does the main output.

@JackDeiten555

Жыл бұрын

@@mykeday instead of the pa a wall of cabs and the pa : P

@beerme8314

Жыл бұрын

ya but thats the head thru the subamp to thew board out to a PA... and ya PA is gonna be fucking loud as fuck but the amp alone cranked to maxed can still be heard at diff sections of the crowd.. thats why they have sound checks and why half the time ya might have seen all these speakers and amps only 1 of them stacks was the one producing the sound... unless i missed sumtin in the way ya posted that lol.

@owlperchedsilo3745

Жыл бұрын

Dennis Perin, yeah Motorhead was the loudest show i had been to back in 87, my hearing has never been the same, Thanks Lemmy.

Iiiiiiii like it!!!!!!! Yep. Even at 70 years old I Liiiiiiiiike it. I remember as a kid, 20, I had an Ampeg V4 100W that I would turn it up all the way in a small room and just blast away for hours. Of course I wear hearing aids now. You’re going to have a great studio soon Ole Buddy ❤️

I heard that all Marshall amps have a secret mode to turn up to 11, includes a free smoke effect too.

Cool and great fun. Looking forward to the next/completed video. Thanks guys.

I randomly bought this amp before I knew what amp models even were. I am grateful for my beginner's luck.

Brilliant chaps. You obviously had a blast. Fascinating episode.

I still have mine! Rarely use it. It's so damn loud, heavy and bulky. It's a statement of how rock n roll used to be.

Marshall sounds absolutely awesome 😎 🤘🏻

This is a freaking beast of an amp!!!

That was fun to watch. When I worked at Sam Ash (USA music store chain) I got to play through 3 Marshall full stacks - barely had the volume cracked open - and it was deafening, no doubt, but MAN what a FEELING! Chugging on the E string and just feeling it pound my chest was amazing. Hahaha. Absolutely completely impractical for any musical situation ever. But it was awesome to experience! Also I'm really impressed with the tone you got here. I saw Tele (bright) + Marshall (also bright) and prepared for icepick tone, but I was very pleasantly surprised. Well done!

I have a JCM2000 DSL 50 the sweet spot for the volume knob on Ultra Gain 1 is at around 6 that's where it opens up to full but before it starts to 'flub'. I play metal so have the Gain at around 6-7. Modern reactive attenuators are the best thing for guitar in the past 20 years.

I used a Plexi setup back in the late 70's. My right ear is is still ringing !

Hi guys, I downloaded your Studio Rats ‘80’s patch off Tone Cloud today and it sounds great! Started playing EVH with that patch and it sounded killer. Weirdly, started playing a couple Cars songs and even THEY sounded great. It does what it says!

@joshshannon

Жыл бұрын

Man my spark quit working I wish it was still doing more than being an overpriced paper weight!!

@nazmoking3171

Жыл бұрын

@@joshshannon knock on wood mine has been reliable so far.

Excellent progress on the build, dwarfs the old place! 😲 Very early gig of mine, many, many years ago - Dick Dale - 2x 2203 JCM800 heads pegged w' a 1960A cab for each. Cabs at the back of the stage, turned to point at the wall in a 400-500 capacity room. Knock the wind out of you & then some......

@andriealinsangao613

Жыл бұрын

Whoa whoa whoa, Dick Dale? The surf guitar guy?

That is a really nice Amp and Speaker combo . I would love to have some thing like that !

Keep in mind that this is not for home use. NO HOME USE. This is a beast for war and we all can see that it is able to do!!!

@tylerkrug7719

Жыл бұрын

A beast for war,lol. Nice

@warshipsatin8764

4 ай бұрын

nah its perfect for a 1 bedroom apartment

I’m still able to take 2 100w Marshall jubilees out to shows and can usually have em on 6/7 vol - outdoor shows - truly blessed I’m not in a band that I have to be wired direct to PA

This is what my parents say my guitar sounds like at 0.1% volume

By far the loudest concert I've ever been to was in February 1994 on the Black Sabbath "Cross Purposes" tour at the State Theater in Detroit, MI. Their line-up at the time was Tony Iommi-lead guitar, Geezer Butler-Bass, Tony Martin-Vocals, Bobby Rondinelli-Drums, Geoff Nichols-Keyboards, with opening bands Morbid Angel & Motorhead. I'm not an Amp expert so I don't know the wattage, specifications, etc.. about what they were using. But basically Iommi had on his side of the stage, four double-stacked Laney amplifiers for his Lead guitar, on Geezers side he had four double-stacked Marshall amps for his Bass. And the keyboard player (who also did backing vocals, and on a few songs played a 2nd guitar) had some kind of Peavey amp. The thing was, this theater was such a small place, it made it that much louder. I couldnt hear hardly anything for 3 days afterward, and you could feel the floor rumbling underneath you a lot of the time it was so loud. *BUT- in 2007 I went to see Black Sabbath (or "Heaven & Hell") as they called the band at this point, since Ronnie James Dio was back singing in Black Sabbath again for the 3rd time at this point). In London, Ontario Canada at the John Labatte Arena. Their Line-up at this time was: Tony Iommi-lead guitar, Geezer Butler-Bass, Ronnie James Dio-vocals, and Vinnie Appice-Drums; and opening bands were: Down & Megadeth. The problem at their concert this time, was that it was in such a huge arena this time, the sound wasn't even close to being as loud as when I saw them at the extremely small State Theater concert hall in Detroit in 1994. They used the exact same kind and number of amplifiers as they did at the Detroit concert, Four stacks of Laneys on Iommi's side, and four stacks of Marshalls on Geezers side. But being in such a huge arena this time, I think they should have added some extra amplifiers. Granted, I was on the complete opposite end of the arena from the stage this time, While at their "Cross Purposes" tour in Detroit I was only about 25 feet from the stage.

Regardless of anything, great playing and tone out of the tele. Well Done!!!

That's a nice call on the JCM-2000 DSL--one of the better Marshalls _ever_: The designer of the JCM-2000, Santiago Alvarez, is a genius. Also, replacing the fiberboard back-panel of a Marshall cabinet with a panel made of high-quality birch plywood really improves the overall frequency response of the cabinet. Years ago (1990s?), Marshall started installing the sawdust-and-Elmer's-glue back-panel as a cost-saving measure; the original Marshall cabinets included birch plywood back panels. :) If one happens to be handy with a saw and a soldering iron, replacing the back panel of a Marshall cabinet with a high-quality birch plywood back-panel is both inexpensive and easy to do. You simply pull off the old Tolex and re-use it on the new panel, with the help of rubber cement. My 6100-LM (EL34 model) roars through a 1960 Classic (with Green-backs).

Can't tell you how many gigs I've played in tiny bars and Cat's still haul this setup in then can barely turn it up . I get it, own one myself but for gigs my Fender Reverb Deluxe is more than enough . And I'm all about the "One Trip" motto. I want to haul ALL my gear in just one trip from the car to the venue. To each their own though , these are classics for a reason . It's great feeling to stand in front of one and feel it thump right through your chest

@butterblood

Жыл бұрын

I have an ‘87 JCM800 100 watt. But my ‘74 Bassman 50 will always be my go to amp. No matter what else I try the Fender always comes out on top. Perfect for any size gig.

Do this with a 2204 or 4010 50 watt, the ones I’ve had, the master from 7 to 10 literally doubled in volume, like a rabid dog. This amp sounds really good, is it an early UK made DSL? Also, would you know which speakers are in the cabinet(65,70,75’s?)

I want to see those tubes GLOW!! I had a 120w all-tube Bugera combo amp that I sold before I ever got to experiment with it like these guys are doing.

You guys ought to do this for other classic British amps also. Like for example, one of the few shows I ever wore ear protection to see was Saxon who I think were running all Laney amps at the time. That show was so loud I was more feeling the music through my entire skeleton than actually “hearing” it 😂 (Those guys were very cool after the show, too, they took a lot of time to meet the fans, shake hands & sign autographs and all)

@gearmeister

Жыл бұрын

I tried a Laney 100 watt 1/2 stack at full tilt & it was lovely but it wasn't a legendary Marshall

@timmotel5804

Жыл бұрын

How about a VOX Super Beatle

@reverendtos4271

Жыл бұрын

I've been in metal for 44 years and have spent the last 20 in death metal bands. And to this day, Saxon in 84' was by far the loudest sound I've ever experienced. Or ever will again :)

@brucemorris3830

Жыл бұрын

@@reverendtos4271 So Rev, I am absolutely NOT a pure “metal” guy (folk/country/rock for me) but I appreciate good musicianship across genres. Saxon was REALLY GREAT to see, way outside my “zone”; but everybody who plays should absolutely go see people who play and write & perform different styles of music and learn from what those people do and do not do. It’s good for the human brain to get outside your little “comfort zone” occasionally.

@reverendtos4271

Жыл бұрын

@@brucemorris3830 Absolutely! I play in a Satanic Death Metal band, but also love Light Opera, 70's Prog Rock, Steeleye Span and The Bill Evans Trio. I shudder to think of a life listening to only one thing \m/

It would have been interesting to hear the clean channel cranked and how long it stayed clean for to compare... with the ultra gain channel it just sounded like you were piling on more clipping and compression.

interesting video. glad you did the outside measurement . looking forward to seeing the final result. I'm a retired audio tech and I've fixed and measured a few Marshall amps. my audio power meter tops out at 100 watts and all Marshalls were able to take it past full scale (so let's say 105 W or so) no F amps ever made it close . 85W being the best. but of course the dB difference is insignificant. i did a video measuring the boss katana in here somewhere. it talks about dB a bit. good to see you are now getting lots of views and likes.

@lets_measure_it

Жыл бұрын

thanks so much

I have this amp and I love it! but I think you can get a couple more decibels out actually with the clean switch because the Distortion is clipping.

That was really great

I had a JMP 50W head going through a 2 x 12" cab when I was young and I would run it at 0.5 for a comfortable level to play with the band. After a while, I switched to setting it at 2 and turning the guitar volume knob down. These Marshalls are insanely loud.

@ashleybrooks985

Жыл бұрын

Similar story here... In the early 2000s friend sold 16yr old me a '77 mk2 50w JMP head for... £175. I spent the rest of my savings on a 1960a cab and practically rode that thing around the home counties and it was the BEST.

🤘🏻🤘🏻🎸 sounds great!💪🏻💪🏻

The sound of the 70s n 80s...we loved playing that loud...I used two!!

Great fun, lads - well done. Be VERY interesting to see the non-scientific but thats not the bloomin point difference once the internals are finished. Lovely video to kick Friday off - thanks.

Really enjoyed that 🙂 The type of analytical thing I would do just to see. It’s also great as it gives folk thinking of building a non sound proof man cave in the garden an idea of what they can get away with without upsetting the neighbours

I recently picked up a Stereo EL 34 100/100. Ran the power amp at 100 percent & JMP-1 at 5 or 7 into 2 quads, and walked outside my house with a wireless system just to hear what the neighbours were listening to. It was at this point I realised I will need to practice more or get better lessons. My poor neighbours. 🤣🤣 The ground was shaking & so were the cats! (Don't worry I had them locked in the front room at the other end of the house.)

Nothing beats a marshall!

@breifne555

Жыл бұрын

Apart from a HiWatt 😁

A band that I was in, the guitar players each had a PEAVEY 4x12 with a horn. Great days.

Please help! Can you rats tell me if the Boss Katana Mk2 head switches channels via footswitch 100% seamlessly? Or is there a micro gap in signal like in Mk1?

Well, I’m looking forward to the finished build.

Awesome. That tele sounds so FRIGGIN SWEEET through the Marshall. WOW. What effects did ya use?

Your meter had 112Max in the bottom right, was that the maximum measured, or the meters maximum? If the latter, a real DB meter would be a better choice, and so far just about every studio I have been to had one, as well as every sound guy at a venue because of volume threshold laws.

I had one of those. The green channel was excellent dimed in crunch mode with a boost in front. The Ultra channel was just okay to me. Too fizzy and had some strange EQ sound I could never EQ out to my liking. This experiment would be fun with a healthy Super Lead.

Very interesting I thought the sound proofing did it’s job …great amp by the. Way 👍👍👏👏

I figure the phone call went something like this “Hey Paul, the walls and roof are done, you need to come over, I have to show you something!” - “I don’t have time rn, I’m recording” - “I bought a 100W Marshall, wanna try it?” - “I’m on my way” …

How loud is a Marshall HALF stack? Not nearly as loud as the multiple Marshall FULL stacks I heard at all the concerts I went to in the ‘80s and ‘90s. Nothing will ever replaced those Marshall walls of sound. Also, nothing will ever replace my hearing loss. Lol! Every guitarist should experience playing in front of a cranked Marshall FULL stack. It’s a feeling of a lifetime that I will never forget. I used to play gigs with a band that used three Marshall FULL stacks. You could feel the power even from backstage. Amazing! Great video by the way. Liked and subscribed!

Playing my 100 Watt Marshall 2210 (1986 made), the sweet spot indeed is at about 11 o'clock on the master volume, too.

To think I used to gig regularly for DECADES with EVH5150 and cab.... no earplugs... I now struggle at times with some of the high mid frequencies in one ear when mixing 😢

I remember first and last concert of Yngwie Malmsteem in Poland. in well proof, small concrrt hall in Katowice (now it is Miasto Ogrodów). Hall was prepared for orchestral playing or theater... But there was a lot of YJM Marshalls Everywhere. It was monster sound. Tons of Decibels. i did not hear for 1 hour. after.

Always proper fun diming a Marshall. Might want to have the checked over by a tech. A healthy 100 watter puts out more than 112 😊 my 76’ superlead running 2 el34’s through an open back cab with 97 db speaker peaks at 119 and my 100 watt 6100 peaks at 121. Looking forward to seeing how the new place turns out 👍🏼

@JasonChannell

Жыл бұрын

Cheers for having a 6100

@0megalul309

Жыл бұрын

That's why you never run a single 412 with greenbacks with a marshall dimed

@gregrogers2611

Жыл бұрын

@@0megalul309 That’s exactly what I was thinking! That’s why they made the stack!

@George-xy2xi

Жыл бұрын

Looks like that meter has a max cap at 112db

@bluesalamander5527

3 ай бұрын

@@0megalul309why?

I've had one of these amps for the last 22 years. I don't know what I was thinking...too loud and powerful for my needs. It's been sitting in my basement forever with little use so it still looks almost brand new. I use mostly combo amps these days. I've been thinking about selling it for years but never seem to go through with it...I think I just like to look at it when I'm down there...like an art piece or something lol.

@richardchorley1593

Жыл бұрын

As long as you get a kick out of an object it's OK for you to keep it . I'd rather have a Marshall stack than any antique

@jordanpratt3821

Жыл бұрын

Have you ever tried using an attenuater??

@rockinguitarist1

Жыл бұрын

I would LOVE to buy that from you! I had a JCM2000 DSL100 with both, the A & B 1960 cabs, but I ended up losing them because of a... woman

@peters6589

Жыл бұрын

@@rockinguitarist1 Part of the reason I should be selling it is because of a woman too lol. As I've bought other amps along the way, I keep telling my wife that I'm selling the Marshall to justify buying the other amps. Do you happen to be located in the NY/NJ area? I would consider selling it to you..

@peters6589

Жыл бұрын

@@richardchorley1593 Very good point Richard. That's the main reason I've kept it this long. It's reached a certain "antique" status where it's just cool to look at...kinda like a cool piece of art. Doesn't really take up that much space either.

Amps don't necessarily get louder the more you turn them up. They have a thing I know as headroom, where after a point they just won't get louder. CSG Guitars has a great video on how this works. Its the reason I think (short of the phone not being able to go above 112) the meter is peaking.

@Crash.7434

11 ай бұрын

Is it loud enough to practice in a band? I want to get a Marshall and send one near my used guitar store for cheap but don’t want to waste the money if it isn’t loud enough, I plan on getting the half stack version

@unclejj13er75

9 ай бұрын

@@Crash.7434 If you have a marshall half stack you will prolly be the loudest guy in the room. Unless you're playing with Lemmy or something...

@Crash.7434

9 ай бұрын

@@unclejj13er75 you are correct. I got one and it is super loud.

@unclejj13er75

9 ай бұрын

@@Crash.7434 I got a 50 watt and that thing shakes the walls. Plenty of power to play with drums and bass.

@Crash.7434

9 ай бұрын

@@unclejj13er75 thank you, I got mine recently and you are correct, it’s a half stack and I never have to go above volume 5 ever my old half stack I had to go up to volume 6-7 but it was solid state which I heard aren’t as loud

Subscribed a couple of days ago. This video confirms it was a good choice! 😂 1959SLP next???

I'm a total Marshall fan but my old mesa boogie triple rectifier would shatter the concrete blocks i mean that amp was louder than any other I have came in contact with. 🎸

That is terrifying, i'm only wearing headphones and i can just tell that thing is ungodly loud

Thank you!

Just think….EVH used to have his Marshalls cranked every time in the early days in small clubs and the backyard parties. No earplugs in those days. What does it take to blow a Celestion speaker? What a score on this amp and cab James.

I like how he kinda stood back and reached to turn it up, like he was afraid to get close to it.

Epic amp!

My boss and I cranked up my JCM900 100W half stack at our company's loading dock on a Saturday. I'll never forget that.

@TheStudioRats

Жыл бұрын

Nice one

Back in the late 90s I borrowed a dB-measuring device (what ever it is called by professionals ;-)), turned up my JCM900 100W half stack and reached 126 dB at max. Loud enough to kill a candle.

@paulbateman81

Жыл бұрын

That’s a proper reading as my mk3 900 50 watter got to 122db and the 100 watters are suppose to be a few db more. It’s great fun trying it 😎

Sounds amazing! This video convinced me to purchase one Saturday. Lol. What were the EQ settings fellas? I’m going to recreate this video.

@TheStudioRats

Жыл бұрын

Nice one Matt. Eq was at 12

I think the speakers can only get so loud then you'd have to add more to be louder? Or bigger size? The speakers would probably tear if it went over 112?

That's a beefy tone right there! Just the amp itself!

I tell you, that's not the room I'd want to be in with that level of volume. Concrete and cinder block??! Yikes! Then again, these were built for venues like Madison Square Garden so, yeah, it's loud, lol.

I'd be intrigued to see if you can get more out of the DSL after a once-over by a tech? I have a JCM 800 studio with a Zilla vert 2x12 (V30 x H Creamback) and hit levels up near 110db WITH a Captor 8 attenuating! I know there isn't a HUGE difference between 20 watts and 100 watts in terms of level (especially Marshall "watts" 😂) and I know the JCM 2000 isn't the loudest amp they've made but I'd've thought you'd be up closer to the 120s at least! Looking forward to the next update! 😁

It would be nice if you had a full stack of cabs.I wonder if it would be any louder?

I think these amps sound noticeably louder to modern guitarists simply because we are used to smaller more controllable amps, not many of us have the space nor the kind of shows that would need a stack bringing the volume, winding up a stack is brilliant fun though and I recommend it if you haven't had the chance, almost every local show I have played has the usual deluxe reverbs and ac30s but even then they have a ton of volume behind them, if I could transport a stack and use it to its full potential I absolutely would though.

@Crash.7434

11 ай бұрын

Is it loud enough to practice in a band? I want to get a Marshall and send one near my used guitar store for cheap but don’t want to waste the money if it isn’t loud enough, I plan on getting the half stack version

@user-qe4rs4gy9i

10 ай бұрын

I think minimum 15 watt competes with a drummer but only if you want to play dirty all the time. If you want loud clean you need 100 watts, maybe 50 watt but depends on the model.

@Crash.7434

10 ай бұрын

@@user-qe4rs4gy9i I never heard a 15watt keep up with a drummer.

I’m shocked at how good Bill Burr is on guitar! 😂

In the 1980s at least in the studio a 50w Marshall was the best rock amp. Such a beast. Using a SM57 and a 451 microphones was my go to set up. Clean and crunchy and full . The GK amps sounded like you were trying to shove the sound through a straw. Thin and too electronic. The 100w Marshall didn't give a better sound. But that was in the studio.

Once you have one of these beasts it's a lifer. I use the 1960 Vintage cab with it.

Still missing my then new Marshall Silver Jubilee stack. Just 50 watts, but what a growler it was.

what are the specs on the tele is it stock pickups ?? i havent been able to find any demos where ppl play anything but les pauls or super strats

@TheStudioRats

4 ай бұрын

Stock pickups

Bet the neighbors were “all in” during the filming of this video!

Omg you said you were gonna do this on Wednesday night & you have

saw dinosaur jr the other week and they had 6 of these all with pre amps and they were mic’d up to the stage speakers! and that was just for the guitarist. my ears were ringing for a good 5-6 days

I can only get mine at 1/3 volume for a few minutes in my house before my ears start hurting. That hard surface room has got to be insanely loud.

the guitar sounds great. which Fender Telecaster is this? are the pickups original? thanks

@LocationRecordings

Жыл бұрын

Is a 60th Anniversary limited edition USA. All stock.

This is not about the 100 watt Marshall but when I was 20 I had this 300 watt Peavey Musician series amplifier, 400 watt Peavey PA with feedback sweeps. Another friend had an Acoustic 270 and various other equipment. My PA was turned as loud as you could get it without steady feedback in a 8 x 16 foot room drums and everything crammed into it and you could barely hear the voices over the amps. For some crazy reason we wanted it as loud as we could stand it... this was back in the mid-70's my ears rang for 3 days after that session. I've regained my hearing since then and found out most of the time these days the big amps are mostly for show and that the volume on the stage isn't that bad but the people in front of the mains wouldn't know that!! I went to a concert once that they had the mains so loud that you couldn't really hear the music, it all turned to noise. I tried recording a little of it on my phone but it overwhelmed the circuits and all you got was distorted version of the songs they were playing. Friend of mine has that particular amp and most the time where he plays since he didn't have a brake he had to keep the volume under 1 at most of his gigs because they are just that loud. I have a Marshall MG100HDFX and it's no where near as loud as that beast!

I like that JCM900's go up to 20 (on the gain knob at least 😆)

Did you ever do a follow up video to this?

I had JCM 900 that sounded amazing, had to sell it because it only did at high volumes, which I can't do home. New Katana II can be dialed pretty close to this (I know, it will never be like real tubes) but my wife hasn't kicked me out of the house so, that'll do

@MOAB-UT

Жыл бұрын

Katana has a headphone jack and online settings also. Selling mine though- just got a FM9.

@svenzia

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@@MOAB-UT Great tool. Fractal effin sounds good. Too many possibiltys for me hihi, but one can use it in a simple way as well i suppose. I have tried the FM3 trough very good active studio speakers at a music store. Blowed me away, such quality sounds. I dont think many could tell the difference in a blind test, and all the great fx. I hope you will be more than pleased :)

@MOAB-UT

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@@svenzia Agreed. FM9 is the one to get right now- top of the heap. Better be for $1800, but a value when you consider all the gear it virtually replaces. You are 100% right that in the mix, you would never tell amp from the FM9. The tones are clear, consistent and the effects are next level. It's essentially the floor version of their AFXIII- which, with pedals will run close to $3k. If it's good enough for Metallica, Def Leppard, John Mayer, Joe Satriani, etc., then it is good enough for me. I mostly play to my dog. Wife leaves the room every time...wasn't like that 20 years ago! It's ironic because I play far better today.

Back in the early 80's when we played bars we ran our Marshalls on 10 and turned the 4/12 cabinets backwards

how good does it sound. epic... had one for a while, but, i found them a bit hard with sharing the eq.

@MRxr400

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from 12 oclock onwards, it seems to just be more compressed by the power tubes, not too much louder. now, this also shows the true measure of volume is db, not watts. would love to see you guys remove two of the power tubes to see the difference in db running it as a 50W head..

If they are lucky, those ear plugs "might" filter out 30dBs'. Hearing damage can start to occur once you hit 70+ dB's. At 120dB's damage can be instant. In the first tests they kept hitting around 112dB's. So 112dB's minus 30 = 82dB's = danger zone. In the final test it was nuts that he was exceeding 73dB's outside. I would have liked to see the reading inside at full tilt.

for those that are interested it other marshall levels, i have a plexi 100w slp. a 1959 cicuit. through 2 12" speaker ( a quarter stack) on a proper db meter it reads 123 db 6 feet away. i put it through a rivera rockcrusher attenuator most of the time. let me say you need a good attenuator to pull 120 db down to 90 db and withstand the heat load.

I’d like to hear it in a library 📚

Do the same test with a Hiwatt DR103! I'd love to see how they compare in volume.

@andriealinsangao613

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Seconded! But with them being Hiwatts, they won't distort so much as a Marshall, right?

@yannyloyer7177

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hiwatt are downright painful. love em

@andriealinsangao613

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@@yannyloyer7177 Speaking from experience?

@yannyloyer7177

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@@andriealinsangao613 yes sir. had one years ago. regret selling

@andriealinsangao613

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@@yannyloyer7177 Ouch!

I am sure I heard somewhere that at stadium gigs most of the Marshall stacks we for effect and they only used one of them!

61 yr old pro player here. I still use 2 blue voodoo cabs w/vintage 30s and a 71 super lead. can't have them behind you anymore and crank them like back in the day. so I side shoot them. NOTHING LIKE FEELING THE POWER!!! bass player side shoots 2 4x10s. we can get away with it cause the singer uses in ears. I go HYSTERICAL when people sit in on my rig. watching them try to control it is always fun.

STILL THE BEST !!! The "Guv'nor'S " legacy lives on!

what about the window ? Double glazed I hope ?

Also you should measurr on axis of loudspeakers and using certified microphone or.jig.

And I love that.

It's interesting. I would never own one again these days. The last 100 watt Marshall I had was about 20 years. There's just no need for me to have one these days. But that really goes for a 100 watt of any amp. The volume is just way more than you really need in playing out these days and there not what I would practice with. Even with a load box, as it's just using up tubes when I don't need to. As I sit here watching videos while practicing into my Fractal FM3 into a ISP active guitar wedge. Even the Mesa Mark V 25 I have sitting next to it, I never max out.

There's something about valve amps that makes valve watt ratings way, way louder than solid-state ones. I'd used an 80W Marshall Valvestate combo for ages, and then I went rack and got a Peavey 50/50 (i.e. 100W) valve power amp with a Marshall JMP-1 valve pre-amp...with a 20W difference in the ratings of the two, subjectively the 100W was about four times louder than the 80W solid-state amp (and sounded much, much better too with that classic valve snarl and growl in the tone). The 80W struggled to keep up with a drumkit; the 100W could drown it out almost completely.