"A real diamond in the rough" "During inspection, we found several cracks in the block" LOL

@RIPPERTON

3 жыл бұрын

huge waste of SeaFoam

@9Apilot

3 жыл бұрын

I would have been more impressed if they had repaired the block.

@paulbrancato8262

3 жыл бұрын

@@Andy-lu4nd The valley cover and timing chain cover? Maybe.

@megsmith596

3 жыл бұрын

@@9Apilot You have to watch Cuban TV they would have repaired it.

@9Apilot

3 жыл бұрын

@@megsmith596 I thought they just used a Russian tractor engine instead.

That ARP cabinet is probably worth more then both my cars.....

@menom7

3 жыл бұрын

Probably??? Lol. I'd venture to say your 100% correct on that one Edward!!! ;-)

@Cheezeball99999

3 жыл бұрын

No joke. I kind of want one 🤣 Though if it's anything like Fastenal at work, they bring you the cabinet for free (or a small fee) and check up once in a while to charge for what you've used. So it's not an all up-front thing. I hope.

@elboxoluncho

3 жыл бұрын

Probably worth more than all my cars. Haha

@2006gtobob

3 жыл бұрын

The bolts and nuts are worth more than my cars.

@edwardmyers1746

3 жыл бұрын

@@Cheezeball99999 id love one 🤣 every oem fastern would be gone in my engine bay, nothing but arp if I could. Just for the stainless bolts

The theme of this show: "We're going to take a junkyard engine, start it up once, and then replace every single part including the block."

@Sherman62

3 жыл бұрын

Pay attention. This is how you get a new engine past the wife. "Did you buy a whole new engine"? "Nah baby, just a few parts".

@johnawesome3191

3 жыл бұрын

It definitely teaches you the truth about what could happen with a junkyard engine. I’m glad they showed how they found those cracks

@Cheezn4urdreams

3 жыл бұрын

LMFAO..

@davidhill850

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sherman62 Its also well established in my house that all the parts come from Ebay, and everything on Ebay is $20

@SAVikingSA

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidhill850 I run nitro R/C cars and it's the same but Amazon. I rebuilt a Traxxas Slash with anodized everything and every part was from Amazon and they all cost $20. R/C parts are even more believable at that price even though the cost against weight of what you're getting is even worse than car parts.

This is classic engine building.😂 "We started with a junkyard engine and before you knew it, we're $20k deep in a full custom."😂😂

I am building up a new engine for my 69 Mustang S-code. I recall watching this video a year back. I started by taking in the bare block to the local speed shop to have the block cleaned, magnafluxed and inspected. I knew the engine had come out of a 66 T-Bird and had never been rebuilt, it had factory bores still. Now we're in the process of securing all the parts to build it into a 445 FE. Only the block, main caps, and front timing cover are going to be original, the rest will be all new.

At the beginning the engine was said to come out of a dump truck. If I'm not mistaken, that would be an FT. Those had steel cranks and they probably tossed it. Also the blocks were beefier, had more meat around the cylinders.

@dustinshadle732

10 ай бұрын

They would have had a "391", but I love pulling those out and turning the crank to fit high rpm engines. Once in a while I'll find a truck or bus worth saving, like a 4x4 bus in Wyoming. Those cranks aren't just steel, but forged steel

@godsowndrunk1118

9 ай бұрын

​@@dustinshadle732Could be 361, couldn't it?

@jameskohler7724

8 ай бұрын

That is the best cheapest way to get a 427 forged crank. Take a 391FT crank and turn the shaft down

The combustion chamber is heart-shaped? Well I don't know if my lady will like these for Valentine's Day but I guess I know what I'm buying her

Great noise and easy to start no matter the weather or temperature. What a great motor for a daily driver.

@craigengelman4534

3 жыл бұрын

to bad theres over 10k in parts and machine work

@falconater68

3 жыл бұрын

@@bigboreracing356 Sweet brag bro...A more accurate comparison would be a built 409 wouldn't it? Hey I bet topfuel cars sound pretty good too.

@spar8334

3 жыл бұрын

@@bigboreracing356 you not tryna pull up on my stock 302 with the new plugs and fuel filter

@spar8334

3 жыл бұрын

@@bigboreracing356 it not a coyote and you need tires for traction. Not me tho i spin and win

I had a 390 in my 71’ F-250 4wd. I stayed calm by putting headers, an Edelbrock intake and a 750 Holley dbl pumper. Couldn’t tell you how much power it made, but the upgrades really woke up that old motor. Thanks👍🏼 for sharing the video post. Best of luck 🍀to both of you guys 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

I like Pat's face he makes when hes flooring the throttle lol

Love the interest in the old FE block, I've built a few of them years ago. Impressive numbers from old iron and new tech. One SUPER cool thing about the FE is that you can mix and match things. The 360 becomes a 410 with a crank swap. Swap the intake and add headers and you've changed the engine for cheap.

@Bbbbad724

Жыл бұрын

Hey Karl, Bill Ballinger I am still enthusiastic about the interest in the FE too. I still love them too. I do wish someone would make 351C heads and intake to fit them. That would be really cool! I have thought about how nice it would be. A445 cross bolt 2 and 4 main, put studs in and new dowels. It would be neat to half fill it and then the 4V closed chamber heads at 4.63 bore spacing and a big burly intake in a 67-70 Mustang!

@karljay7473

Жыл бұрын

@@Bbbbad724 That name sounds familiar, were you a part of the old FE Forums back about 20 years ago? I was pretty active back then when I was building my truck FE.

@Bbbbad724

Жыл бұрын

@@karljay7473 The one and only. I m banned from them now for thinking that someone should make a 351C head at 4.63 bore spacing because it was the best head Ford ever made and I guess it pissed off all the guys hoarding CJ LR/MR/HR/TP heads. I just thought and even wrote a letter to Vic Edelbrock and Suggested that he should step up the FE with Cleveland at 4.63 and an intake way back before the Edelbrock heads came out. I guess he made the right choice, they are still their best sellers. I still wish he had taken my advice. The FE is a great design and it still makes great power from it’s design. The Cleveland head is the best OEM design. I really wished the two had been mixed. I fill blocks if I plan on 750 + using studs and crossbolted mains from Pro-Gram on 2 -4 with the stock thrust main. I have 3 that are still running on the street at 700 hp that I built 20 years ago. The FE heads are pretty good with the right work. But the Cleveland because of the cant and tilt are bolt them on and go if they had 4.63 bore spacing. Good to talk to you Karl! I hope your 410 truck is still going well!

"Just a good engine!" Doesn't get any better than that, well done guys!

I am building a 428 'C' scratch for my 76' Highboy and almost have everything needed to start reassembly, including 1963 427 cast iron headers. Thanks for showing some blue oval power.

@codysmtih8622

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty sweet, I'm rebuilding my 390 for my 76, and have had all the parts and blocked machined for the last 4 years and am just now putting my valve train on today

@jasonpoore7361

3 жыл бұрын

I just built my 390 and C6 for my 1975 f100 4x4. Absolutely in LOVE with my truck.

@buckykattguitar

3 жыл бұрын

Those 427 manifolds are a pretty rare piece! It took me months to find an original set with no cracks

@elm7666

3 жыл бұрын

@@buckykattguitar They are not cheap either! 38 lbs each but well built.

Would absolutely love to see you guys find an old 427 tunnel port, and do a nice solid build on it.

Love this video, great to see modern tech on a FE engine. Would love to see more Ford engine builds!

@Bbbbad724

Жыл бұрын

Imagine if you had a thick 4.16 bore? 462 ci and weighs less than a Windsor. More tq and hp.

@aguyinnc2865

Жыл бұрын

@@Bbbbad724 as long as it's a Ford engine I'm good with it.

Love that you guys are doing more and more Ford engines. We watch every one, usually a couple of times. It is always nice to know what a set up will give you in hp and trq. Keep them coming.

I've been watching this show since it was Hot Rod TV with chuck and joe and the whole PowerBlock thing with the delicious Courtney Hansen hosting.

@stevewheat9030

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, bring back Courtney 👸

@charlespayne1909

3 жыл бұрын

I ve been watching this since 2004

@K-Effect

3 жыл бұрын

She doesn't need to talk, she just needs to look busy

Oh heck should have left that cool cast aluminum timing cover raw.

How is this restoring a junkyard find, “a diamond in the rough”, when you replace everything including the block? Seams to me your just relocated it to a different junkyard

@reviewaccount469

3 жыл бұрын

But cleaner

@JohnDoe-pv2iu

3 жыл бұрын

I think they were going to use the block but replaced it because they found cracks. The Real find was the oil splash pan under the intake. They sandblasted it and reused it. The only part that came from Ford... Mighta been cheaper to have found a splash pan on Ebay to build! 🤣🤣🤣 Yall Take Care and be safe, John

@Mike-xt2ot

3 жыл бұрын

Like pulling a good radiator cap off a wasted car then driving under it a good car with a bad radiator cap and calling it restoring.

@JohnDoe-pv2iu

3 жыл бұрын

@@Mike-xt2ot I've told people 'the car ain't bad, jack the battery up and pull a new car under it'! Oh well folks need viewers to bring content. That don't happen with a busted block... Oh well, it is what it is... Yall Take Care and be safe, John

@xaenon

3 жыл бұрын

@ab0z Nice reference. I love it!

These guys really taught me a lot and got me working on my old baby 1976 dodge 318 with all new cam, lifters, pushrods, aluminum intake, 600cfm 4 barrel

Love seeing and FE build, my all time favorite engines!

A few years ago I installed the dual quad FiTech on my 482 FE. Early version think max was 600 hp. It fired instantly but the more I drove it the worse it got. Flat out would not idle. At a Goodguys show FiTech tech tried to tune it. In the end I had wasted 5k trying to make it work. I had a NOS tunnel wedge. Finally threw it all in trash. Total junk, appears they made changes now. It ran fantastic with a pair of Holley carbs. My first and last experience with FiTech.

@toado696

3 жыл бұрын

Hey TimeWarp, I remember yours problems a long time back from the forum.

@randysrestoration

3 жыл бұрын

@@toado696 Things may have changed with fitech now but back then it was suckers like myself who had huge financial loss because of it! But I suppose if they send out a free unit people might tend to overlook what they really were. Garbage . .

@jamieschinkai1267

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve had similar experiences with fitech. The phone techs were friendly but we never got that truck running like it should. This was a 5.3 in a obs Chevy with the fitech ecu and harness.

@briang4470

3 жыл бұрын

A buddy of mine bought the base 300hp rated single 4 barrel FItech system when they first came out to put on his 302 ford. When we first put it on it was awesome, it started easy and ran great. But after about 1 month of use, the computer would loose memory and he would have to re write the whole tune or just pick one of the pre selected setting and just deal with it running crappy. It eventually got to the point where if he drove to the store, got out and came back 5 minutes later the whole tune would be gone and sometimes going down the road it would just shut off and loose memory or it would do weird things like idle at 2,000 rpm or idle at 500rpm, it was getting out of hand and since then I have had a grudge against FItech and I have read about many others dealing with the same problem, for all the time and money wasted on the FItech he could have just bought a brand new 650 double pumper and a jet kit and been done with it.

@jeredhayden1392

3 жыл бұрын

Had the same issue with my fitech. ran great for a couple years then one issue after another. Called fitech for tech support and they were basically useless.

Great video, great motor and, you guys compliment each other well as presenters. Awesome episode thanks for posting!

FEs are great! Awesome Episode !

Pat is knowledgeable. He has a flair of his own and he is awesome!

Nothing compares to an FEI love the way these motors sound. opposed to the new late-model engines they have a very distinct sound.

Digging that FITECH system! I know nothing about tuning and the easy set up and self-learning is freaking sweet!

Love it im rebuilding a 390 fe for my 76 ford stepside so this was neat.

I’m staring at my grandpa’s 352 FE out of his 66 F100. It will be my first engine build. I’m dying to get his truck back on the road. This gives me inspiration. I’m certainly not going to go this wild, I’m just hoping to make 300hp, but this gets my mind racing.

@craigengelman4534

3 жыл бұрын

352 is a odd ball motor and for the cost to make 300 your better of to go to a 351w there cheap at the scrap yard make shure to get a rollor motor that way you dont have to pay for the upgrade

@Jsf445

3 жыл бұрын

@@craigengelman4534 then you have to change motor mounts, bell housing, accessory drives. What a pain if all you want is 300 hp. That 352 will do that just fine, and last forever doing it.

@chancezimmerman1390

3 жыл бұрын

Just some pointers on doing the 352 Most parts on the 352 are the same as the 390. Such as timing components. The 352 has the same block as the 390 so if you wanted to you could bore your 352 to a 390. If you are looking to get an easier shot at getting over 300 hp. It really would not be that much more to bore a 352 to a 390. If you are getting the cylinders honed by a machine shop. Also some stock parts for the 352 are getting hard to find. Such as the harmonic balancer and main cap bolts. However you could get aftermarket ones pretty easy. By the way the guy that said the 351w is just jealous that he doesn't have a 351 cleveland 😃

@trythinking6676

3 жыл бұрын

Ought to find a 360 FE. Bulletproof if built right.

@csmall788

3 жыл бұрын

@@trythinking6676 I actually just bought one to put in there while I take my time working on the old motor. It came out of a 74 F100, so I was able to drive it before it got pulled out to test it. It’s nothing special but it does have a comp 268 H cam, performer intake and 1406 Edelbrock carb. It sounds good, at least. Still working on the details to get it fully installed once this zero degree weather passes.

Awesome! I wish I could have you guys turn my 390 into that for my ‘65 TBird!

LOVE seeing the lesser seen/known engines built up...built a 352 next!

@lorenzomaximo1818

3 жыл бұрын

I can’t remember where I saw it but I saw someone do it 352 Stroker build up Attained 595 hp. That’s good for 352 stroker motor. FEs are no joke.

@sorryociffer

3 жыл бұрын

@@lorenzomaximo1818 That’s awesome. Love seeing the oddball engines, regardless of brand...

@lawrencemick1665

Жыл бұрын

This is a 352 block

Man that's one sweet running old school Ford engine. Interesting factoid.. @3:00 Pat didn't mention that the other block he's using is a Ford High Performance 352 FE block. These Hi-Po 352 engines made 360 hp @6000 rpm from the factory w/4.050" bore and 3.500" stroke ..accounting for the high rpm.

@mikeraftis6332

2 жыл бұрын

4.05 x 3.5 = 360 cu in

I always enjoy your videos. Keep it up

I love the addition of the FiTech fuel injection! I know they cost more than carbs but other than cost, everything else is an advantage over carbs. Well done!!!!

long live the Ford FE engine & Power Nation!!

Great combo! I would like to see it on a 460 with around 500 inches with D20E-AB PI heads.

Really cool build, love those FE's

I was hoping you were going to paint that FE gold. They look really classy in gold.

The hydraulic roller cam they picked (254/262 with .670 lift) is a popular BBC drag cam. Its advertised duration is 298/316. The three top solid lifter cams from Ford were: C3AZ-6250-AA 306/306 , .500" lift @ valve, 78° overlap C4AE-B 324/324, .500" lift @ valve, 112° overlap C8AX-D 330/330, .600" lift @ valve, 116° overlap 273 deg @ 0.050"

I love love love 390 fe power 👍

it is normal to put a bolt in the water jacket, without it... when the farmer fills it up with lagoon water, the zinc oxidizes into a powder saving the block and also plugging any small leaks.

CMD number three is the best assembly lubricant I have ever used. I'm glad to see you guys using it. I have found that I get significantly better torque readings and it sticks better than other assembly lubricants.

I have a 445 going in my 55 Fairlane in a few weeks, I'm pretty stoked.

I have a 416 fe with iron heads that made 581hp at 6700, 540 to at 5100 , assembled by Somer's Racing, single 4v police intake. :))

Mixing old engines with modern telemetry is just magic.

I love the way you built any engine badass

Where has Mike gone? Think it’s pretty crappy that someone’s on the show for that long and it’s such a good guy and just disappears without a word

@rlikemoney

3 жыл бұрын

I was wondering where mike was at too. Hopefully hes alright

@Carlos.Rivera

3 жыл бұрын

May ask why people ask about Mike?

@matthewcritchfield6997

3 жыл бұрын

@@Carlos.Rivera Mike was a great guy that was part of the horsepower show for probably near 10 years and all of a sudden now he’s just gone with no information

@michaelwhitehead4446

3 жыл бұрын

@@TimothySchulting LT was a crybaby no big loss there, but Mike was great. Hope he is doing well, where ever he may be.

This and donut media give me the right dose of entertainment and info. Other content auto and non auto alike just seem too overdone and ingenuine. These 2 channels just pump out that content you want. Glad to have caught them both at their peak.

BEST SHOW "EVER"! thank u for all da amazing content you guys bring. 👌🏾💯

@Thelongmanable

3 жыл бұрын

*_The ok symbol you put on the end of your post "ACCORDING TO THE FBI" is a white supremacy symbol.. As a white guy I was corrected on this and thought you needed to know lol 😆..._*

@Thelongmanable

3 жыл бұрын

@ *_We can't have nothing in this world because it's all politically incorrect..._*

Super clean foam spray works great on blocks

That Ford FE design engine is a LeMans winner back in the late 1960s, you can't deny the design's durability and power capability.

The FE is a labor of love,a strong power j

Good stuff!

Love the show. I have been watching the FE series intently since I am building one for my Tbird. What is the metric for drivability? Dyno data seems based on WOT, I would like to see all your projects put in a car and road tested. Keep up the good content!

We found a junkyard engine and then rebuilt it. We used a new block, crank, pistons, rings, connecting rods, oil pan, windage tray, oil pump, pickup, camshaft, pushrods, lifters, valves, springs, heads, gaskets, timing set, intake manifold. distributor, cables, plugs, studs, and bolts. Viola! Completely "restored".

Wow that old fe sounds great.

I love this video keep up the good work man this is my favorite video

Cool build though! TFS seems to be at top of food chain for FE heads at the moment. How about swapping a set of Jay Browns FE heads on next? That would be a interesting swap.

Been watching the show and thank you

Awesome video guys, thanks for sharing. I have a 67 Galaxie 500 Convertible that I'm starting to restore. I think I know which motor I want now :)

Nice job. I really like those valve covers

Every engine I've ever rebuilt I would stand them on their back and drive the cam bearings in and install the cam the same way which helps eliminate scaring the cam bearings and gives your wrists a break.

We drag race the Ford FE way back in the early 70’s. No one made any aftermarket stuff back then. You could get a aluminum intake but it wasn’t a better design that the cast iron it was just a lot lighter. We ran a 447 CI which was the standard 427 4.230 bore with a 428 crank which was 3.98. TRW made the pistons so it was a budget way to gain some cubic inches. Comp solid roller. Single Holley 850 with stock Ford Tunnel Port heads. It probably made about the same power as this combo. I would love to had the aftermarket pieces you guys had here to see what kind of power. With a standard bore 427 with the 4 1/4” stroke crank you guys used here it would be a 478 CI.

really like the FE Builds Thaks

We run 5.90’s on a single Fitech 1200. Turbo and e85. Just ordered an IRD carb.

Congrats on OVER 850k subs guys !!!! GREAT content !!! Im building a Ford 460 nitrous addict engine right now...shooting for 500whp in a 95 mustang gt 5 speed

@RegulerShowTV

2 жыл бұрын

shouldn’t be too hard with a 460 lol, how did it go?

@rickstorm4198

2 жыл бұрын

Should just build the 460 to 552 c.i. skip the nitrous. 900hp easy sith good heads and intake

Great show, glad you are doing engine's like the Ford FE series. But can't help thinking the price to HP output. You used top shelf parts, even fuel injection didn't seem to add as much as I thought it would. Sure it's easier, don't have to mess with it...but wasn't that the pride and fun? Yep, first time, old, enjoyed your show!

Hey Guys, I’m in love with what you did to this 390 FE engine. I had a 390 FE built to original specs but now want more horsepower and look for my 64 Tbird Convertible. Can you refer me to an engine builder in Michigan that is just as capable as the two of you? And what could would I expect to be the cost for parts, paint, and labor? Your reply and expertise are greatly appreciated. Mr. Mike.

I’m building a 445FE stroker and I would love to see you guys fabricate a sheet metal intake for EFI and set it up to run a ProCharger.

Pat love ya just how you are, and Frankie your getting there bud.

Mr Topolinski even though is clearly a pretty good engine numbers man and a engine specs guru he is still after all a technogeek with over full chest pockets pocket protector and note pad and 50 writing implements plus his glasses ..Wow Pat your our hero.

I feel like I just watch this now to watch Pat lay silicone beads.

@GIGABACHI

3 жыл бұрын

🤣👍

Pat, please give us a tour of all of the tools you carry on your person.

I have installed a FiTech 38351 system on my Blueprint 427sb engine as the 1987 OBD1 couldn't be used anymore. I have been very happy with it and I wanted to see how much the FiTech system would add over the Blueprint carburetor system used for the base HP numbers from their factory. I was hoping that the fuel injection system would add more. This vid gives me an idea of how much more I can expect. Thanks guys.

2:00 you in there with all that smoke

For removing aluminum intakes use hmdi plastic wedges and hammer...

Love those FE"s

On a street engine like this, how about some dyno pulls from down around 2500 to 3000? I would love to see how low this engine still makes at least 500 ft/lbs of torque. Stop light to stop light, generous torque makes a performance vehicle that much more fun to drive. Great video! Great series! I used to be a Ford/Lincoln/Mercury parts guy from 1970 to 2009, so I grew up around and loved the FE Ford Big blocks.

@Skyhawks1979

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Torque for street fun!

You should install EGTs and wide band O2s per exhaust port and compare each cylinder AFR and EGT. I know that there is plenty more efficiency on the table especially with that FI Tech kit. You can fatten up certain injection pulses to correct a cylinder.

ive got a 67 galaxie 2 door 390 a/c power steering power brakes. fast back that needs this

That dual-quad EFI setup looks to be about a $3.5k package. I'd hope for more than a 4 HP gain. Hopefully it will do some more self-learning. Cool to see a 352 FE block taken out to that displacement!

@Skyhawks1979

3 жыл бұрын

I believe all 352/360/390/406 and 428 blocks had "352" stamped into the casting.

@ 17:18 you can see there is a loose bolt and washer spinning on the crank balancer.

Those little 175cc intake runners and 70cc heads are holding this engine back. If it had 220cc+ and 64cc it would be in the high 600s or low 700hp range

they could have painted that block blue!

@jasonpoore7361

3 жыл бұрын

I painted my 390 old school ford blue. Lol

@wendlormsby

3 жыл бұрын

What do you expect from a couple of Chebby guys?

@briansearles4473

2 жыл бұрын

I thought it looked good with the black paint, nice valve covers too. I have seen several early 60's FE's where the block was black and the valve covers were painted flat gold.

My first love of an engine, was that 390 ford

Anybody else catch that crescent wrench move? Stop right there son ( turn it around) now proceed!!!

One or two EFI's - the same power but only double the cost. That's called a 200% success!

Awesome Fe ! Always loved the 390 Ford had one in my 1967 Galaxie 500. Was a strong running car! 390 Ford should be Ford blue! Love your show ! More Fords please!

I need a ARP cabinet

@johnparrish9215

3 жыл бұрын

That has got to be expensive.

@king0cans

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnparrish9215 For them it was free. ARP could hook a brother up.

@Nikdabruh

3 жыл бұрын

2500$ On summit

Awesomeness

Very nice!

Ahhhh, the ol' now you see a junkyard engine, now you don't switch, huh? Classic Powernation...

The driver is on fire, lmao, and he was not joking

Gotta love it when you see a Ford guy get so excited about 400 or 500 horsepower.

Thanks

I suggest an Isky 280 Super Mega cam for that FE Look at Isky catalog then retest. Happy Dyno times

Drive it a few days a week, a give us an update in 3 yrs...hint, keep your old holley carb handy! Also....great work guys!

,love them fords

That's the Dual Four Barrel setup I would like to have done on the 412c.i. (6.75 litre) L410 V8 in my 1982 Rolls-Royce Silver Spirit.

That bolt in the coolant passage HAHAHAHAHAHHA