Judo black belt here with experience in Aikido and BJJ. To be fair, BJJ is perfect for ground work and more advanced than Judo when it comes to ground work and that's it! BJJ is designed for 1-on-1 on the ground fights BUT it is a practical ground fighting system. The question is if you know Judo, will you 'need' BJJ advanced and complex ground technics? My answer is absolutely not; Judo ground work is more than good enough for street purposes. However, if you combine Judo and BJJ, you will be set for grappling martial arts; add one practical striking (Muay Thai, Kyokushin, or Kickboxing) and you will become a human weapon! As far as Aikido is concerned, it is just beautiful to watch with almost zero practicality.

@jacobsl3499

3 жыл бұрын

I´ve thought for myself, if I were to go back in time and set up my "martial arts development plan" from childhood and on, it would be like this: Judo: Starting at age 6-7: 5-10 years Karate (Kyoshukin or Shotokan): Starting at age 6-7: 5-10 years I would definitely have black belt levels by then. From there, I would explore into: BJJ at age 16-17: 5-10 years Muay Thai at age 16-17: 5-10 years Maybe approaching black belt/expert levels in those too. By my late 20´s, I would be a beast in martial arts and combat sports! (Adding some western boxing and freestyle wrestling for filling). Combining expert levels in judo, karate, bjj, and muay thai: You are deadly. Some small adaptations, and you could even be crushing it in an MMA cage if you wanted to. Good stuff!

@cristobal9677

3 жыл бұрын

That explains why every fighter in the UFC trains Judo...(sarcasm)...Bjj reigns supreme, proof is in all the fight leagues...

@Bigramt

2 жыл бұрын

I'm only started in Judo and I was a competitive powerlifter weighing 115kg and can still shift some heavy weight The black belts at my club and some higher belts can absolute have their way with me during newaza despite my size and strength I'm way beyond the average guys strength/size and judo groundwork is more than enough to kick my ass on the ground

@adamcz3183

Жыл бұрын

If you think BJJ is more advanced than you need to go to a better judo school one that teaches the original style.

@HunGerMovies

Жыл бұрын

Agree.

BJJ: "man, i gotta work on my takedowns." Judo: "it's called ude hishigi juji gatame."

@OGFITNESS

4 жыл бұрын

bro i suck at nomenclature, i know ude means elbow, and i understand juji gatame but i forgot what the heck is hishigi lol

@benkeating3053

4 жыл бұрын

@@OGFITNESS in this context I believe it is similar to squeeze or crush.

@benkeating3053

4 жыл бұрын

@@OGFITNESS it roughly corresponds to arm-crush-cross form-lock.

@Joe11Blue

4 жыл бұрын

@@OGFITNESS he's saying he has to work on what amounts to the clinch, or initiated contact with your opponent.

@KathyHubbleNTBFIGHTGEAR

3 жыл бұрын

Ude hishigi juji gatame OR "juji" as we call it usually in judo... is straight armbar in BJJ

I think that the faster pace in Judo is not just attributable to the rules; the core of the physical part of Judo is based on the idea that in combat/battle the aim was to quickly and decisively finish your opponent off, and finish them completely.

@tombslasher

4 жыл бұрын

drutgat2 its from jujitsu art from samurai. so yes very effective and dealing with close pressure.

@dylan_krishna_777

Жыл бұрын

Judo have the mindset of the samurai indeed , to control and finish your opponent asap.

@konstantinkascadeur8084

Жыл бұрын

That would explain why it makes sense to be able to win in competition with an efficient takedown, originally there was obviously no mat and it had to cause serious spinal injury or death by turning the armor against uke, it also explains that by immobilizing for a period of seconds you can win in competition , being a holdover from when immobilization was done to cut the enemy's helmet straps and neck .

Hey man, I am a Judoka too and I'm so glad I found your channel. Hope to see you grow more as your content is actually really good! :)

@OGFITNESS

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks brother! i appreciate the support, i hope to grow the channel over time, with the community behind me im starting to believe its possible. Osu!

As a Judo player who has competed at the national level and trained with some of the best judo olympians and trained in Bjj later in life. You are correct about many of the things you have said. A couple of things that you could add though. Judo has extremely high level newaza. It is much faster and is designed to finish your opponent ASAP. Bjj started from judo but changed into a less competition martial art because Bjj studios fought each other for pride respect and out of pure machismo. Bjj students would go to other schools and call out people and fight till someone submitted or gave up. So you would have matches that would be on the ground for a very long time. The battle of attrition became part of the fight. Judo promotes pure competition and friendship among all clubs. You are taught to respect all clubs and learn from each other. Also to better yourself as a person and not beat people up. This is the main reason Bjj isn’t called Judo. Because Jigoro Kano told Maeda he can’t fight for money or just to prove he could beat someone up. So they had to change the name to juijitsu. Nothing against the Brazilians. Brazil is a very tough place and fighting is in their blood but it just evolved differently. Another point to make is the reason a lot of adults don’t do judo is not because it’s looked at as a kids sport. It’s because it’s extremely hard to master throws. You can learn ground game much quicker. But most of all is that Judo is extremely hard on your body. When I work with older Bjj adults that ask if they should learn judo I tell them prepare to get hurt. You can’t get thrown thousands of times and last years doing it. And I do mean thousands. In one practice at a high school level or national adult level you will get thrown at least a hundred to a couple of hundred times a night. It takes its toll. I really liked doing Bjj but I learned to understand and appreciate the differences. Not to upset any Bjj players but if you learn good judo and don’t fall into the dogma of slow bro Bjj you will do well at Bjj. Bjj doesn’t practice at the pace of a real fight. Judo randori is full speed fast to throw and fast to submit. It spirit is the spirit of the samurai quick to the kill. Hence ippon. Similar to the knockout factor. It makes it very hard to stall in judo. You are penalized for cowardice. You could be winning by points and still lose in the last second if you get ipponed. Sorry for the long post and it’s grammar. We can all learn from each other with healthy dialogue. Arigato.

@OGFITNESS

4 жыл бұрын

Slow Bro Bjj!!!! LMFAO!!!!! Man thanks for the long post, i agree 1000% with everything u said. Me and my coach talk about all those points u made all of the time. Im 40 at this point, i started Judo at 37, b4 that i did bjj, started that at 30. Im going for my black belt this year and my objectif is to be canadian champ in my masters division, however long it takes. It was a childhood dream for me to be in the olympics in a martial art but that was crush by my upbringing. Now that i know who i am , im going after it. Im a trainer also so i spend alot of time in the gym working and training myself. U definitely have to lift weights, eat, sleep, and recover optimally, especially at my age. Ive been injured so many times in the past 3 years, but rehab properly and come back better. I always get back up, no matter what, its the spirit that matters in the end. Osu!

@tripical148

4 жыл бұрын

@@OGFITNESS did you're bjj help you get threw the judo belt rankings faster? To reach brown belt in three years is incredible

@dan8085

4 жыл бұрын

@@tripical148 Sankyu in three years is doable...

@muaythaikicks3418

3 жыл бұрын

@@tripical148 you no cool

@steve00alt70

Жыл бұрын

@@OGFITNESS your 40!!? I thought you look about 20 wtf good genetics

I'm a judoka and I agree a 100% that it's too competition focused

You are correct most judo player can go to bjj. Most bjj player can’t go to judo. Even world champion level bjj player do a bad Seoi nage. I’m not joking. But they are different game. Different rule. Different goal. Travis steven is a classic example who can play both.

In the real street fight, where anything goes, a prolonged ground fight is a recipe for a gang beating, if your opponent have buddies.

@OGFITNESS

4 жыл бұрын

Thats true. I wouldnt wanna roll around on the ground too long if it lands there.

@ashemleibakngambamoirangch5416

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah ground is like a sacrifice in the streets

@seanhurley9216

4 жыл бұрын

Just to play devil's advocate, if you are fighting multiple attackers and you are afraid to have a ground fight why do people just assume that those same thugs won't be attacking while you are still standing setting up your throw?

@giovannikolimlim4897

4 жыл бұрын

If thugs are too many, and the only one you can rely on the fight is yourself only. You have 2 choices, run or have a gun

@vdehtyarov

4 жыл бұрын

everyone talks about opponent have buddies. but what about if it's you having buddies?

I am brazilian and i trained judo when i was a teenager. A lot of my judo mates transitioned to jiu jitsu. Its good to listen someone who did the other way. Congrats, really cool channel.

@OGFITNESS

3 жыл бұрын

thank you brotha!

@Donky_Kongs_Baby

3 жыл бұрын

isnt it all really just enhanced versions of ju jujitsu though bjj is just the evolution of the newaza?

@konstantinkascadeur8084

Жыл бұрын

​@@Donky_Kongs_Baby It must be taken into account that Judo appeared around 1880, assuming a notable update and revision, losing part of its "samurai" features in exchange for the contemporary street brawl at the same time that an "Olympic" modality was developed to avoid the imminent abandonment and oblivion that threatened "that ancient samurai fight then outdated or typical of riffraff" ¡! ??? .

@Donky_Kongs_Baby

Жыл бұрын

@Konstantin kascadeur Sure I can agree with your assessment. My ideas on bjj as a whole has changed since I wrote this.

This is wonderful. Many thanks. I have just discovered your channel, and am very impressed at how articulate and knowledgeable you are about Judo. Your video, 'Why i Switched from Bjj to Judo: My personal opinion on why i prefer Judo' should be viewed by anyone thinking about doing Judo, and also by beginner Judoka.

This has to be your most popular video so far, nice job

@OGFITNESS

5 жыл бұрын

It is, thanks!

@icanaja8192

3 жыл бұрын

@@OGFITNESS so why didn't the gracie elders call it Brazillian Judo instead❓❔🤔

Just found your channel, please keep the judo information coming.

Long time judoka here… like 55 years worth… with plenty of exposure to BBJ as well. When you recorded this 4 years ago you were just getting started with Kodokan judo (There are other styles of judo.). Your perceptions reflect that short experience, especially given your previous more lengthy experience practicing BJJ. I enjoyed your wide eyed enthusiastic delivery, which shows you’re really giving judo a chance to grow on you. Your views on the complexities of mastering throwing techniques is amusing… and yet accurate. It’s also evident that your judo dojo is focused, like many are, on competition training and goals. Becoming an Olympic sport has been as much a curse as a boon for judo. If you’re still practicing your judo now, some years later, you’re likely at shodan level. Perhaps you’ve trained at other dojos too, and come to appreciate the fun and challenge of randori, and that shiai (competition) is really the chance to test your judo and not the end-all to the majority of judoka. If you were to remake this clip now, I’ll wager you’d have a much different presentation. From my perspective, BJJ is fun to watch, and rolling with BJJ practitioners is often humbling and just as much fun as judo. BJJ matches can be a bit tedious for a judoka to watch, however ;-). That’s okay.. we are all mat rats at heart, right ?

Really good job Jeff. I have a much better picture now of why things are like they are.

I see alot of small and weakers guys throwing stronger bigger guys in Judo. Its all technique. But mostly its explosive power and quickness. In a real street fight you dont have time to subdue a guy. You need to be quick and explosive on the ground. But yea I have no desire to go to the olympics or on teams I just want to do Judo for fun.

Yoir channel is amazing!!

@OGFITNESS

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you brother, i appreciate the support. I hope to make the channel better and better as i move foward. Osu!

I'm diggin the T-shirt. Bruce Lee was one of my childhood heroes.

Super educational. 😎🔥

@OGFITNESS

4 жыл бұрын

Thx bro

Just look up Koden Judo and you will see the Gracie family did not invent the ground game originally called Newaza. BJJ and Judo are just sports now.

@hazahizabbanzabalawan3815

3 жыл бұрын

No one said they invented it...

@adamclark1972uk

3 жыл бұрын

*Kosen, not koden

@manlyadvice1789

11 ай бұрын

@@hazahizabbanzabalawan3815 I can show you in a book written by a BJJ black belt where it says that Helio Gracie invented jiu-jitsu. It didn't say, "Brazilian." There are hero-worshipers in the bjj cult that actually do believe the Gracies invented the one true secret sauce.

The difference between judo and modern BJJ is that the Gracie’s added catch wrestling or Lucha libre to judo.

@OGFITNESS

10 ай бұрын

i dont know enough about catch wrestling and lutta libre, from where im standing its all just Judo, hahaha.

the way you pronounce maeda is funny lol. being brazilian, many of my friends do bjj and teach me one thing or another. though i really like takedowns, i want to do wrestling or judo one day

Well, well, well. Just found this channel last few days. Really enjoying your content. Simple fact is that Judo is and always will be more explosive than BJJ. In my humble opinion BJJ was made to complicated for a single factor martial art. Anyway good job brother!!!🥋🙇

Very good video! You said starting judo at the age of 20 somethings would be too late, I'm considering starting it at the age of 48. Lol As I'm thinking if practicing martial arts again. Also considering bjj and aikido (to be softer).

@gerardhart9052

2 жыл бұрын

BJJ has not really appealed to me as it never looked like a concrete and asphalt art. Judo easily translates to the street. Starting late concentrate on your ukemi it is the best life skill ever. When you are comfotable falling and being thrown then work on your throws. Older guys should take it easy on the power stuff and invest more in technique look at some Mifune videos.

Maeda was both a Catch As Catch Can Wrestler, which is much more submission rich, and he was also a Judoka. So BJJ is influenced by both Kano Jiujitsu/Kodokan Judo AND Catch Wrestling. The Kimura lock is a Catch Wrestling double wrist lock. The leg locks are Catch Wrestling locks.

@alexsvensson6438

4 жыл бұрын

Kimura exists in judo too tho

@henrikg1388

4 жыл бұрын

@@alexsvensson6438 It was named after a judoka named Kimura, who beat Helio Gracie with a Kimura from the Guard, in a kind of no-rules submission grappling challenge match in Rio 1951, between the two styles. So yes, I would say the Kimura is very much Judo. Judo wasn't always so limited on the ground, and BJJ looked a lot more like judo back in the days, with a vast curriculum of throws. Kimura never trained catch.

@junioravila853

4 жыл бұрын

Both kimura lock and leg locks exist in judo since the beginning of kodokan judo.

@josephhernandez3907

3 жыл бұрын

It's called Ude garami in judo and it's existed since forever. Sensei Kimura was a master at this lock. He used it to destroy Helio Gracies arm that's why they named it Kimura after him

@ericiraho122

3 жыл бұрын

Kimura is ude garami in judo

Ufc never stated the fact that the gracies got their asses handed to them in pride.

Would you compare judo to Greco Roma wrestling and bjj to freestyle wrestling

@OGFITNESS

4 жыл бұрын

judo and greco, similar because u can no longer a grab legs in olympic judo so its more upper body work but with a gi. Bjj and freestyle, similar also since you can grab legs in both but more no-gi bjj/grappling and freestyle.

I'm in my mid 40s. I am in excellent physical condition for my age. Watching the John Wick series has inspired me me to look at starting Judo or BJJ. I have some MT and boxing experience but no grappling or wrestling experience. Am i too old to start Judo?

@OGFITNESS

3 жыл бұрын

nahhh, it's never too late and if you're in great shape you'll be fine, watch my vids on starting Judo and Bjj for older guys, should give you some insight on what to be careful of. If you have any questions send me an email. Osu!!

@jmannz1

3 жыл бұрын

@@OGFITNESS Thank you my brother. Thats music to my ears. Really appreciate your content. Cheers

@konstantinkascadeur8084

Жыл бұрын

Definitely not, and surely you will enjoy taking care of your health at the same time that you improve your physical education and surprise yourself by performing spectacular techniques that you would not have thought of doing.

Gotta thank Kwonkicker for showing me this channel. I'm subbed now.

@OGFITNESS

5 жыл бұрын

Welcome aboard, glad to have ya.

Hi, im considering doing one of them but i cant choose. can you suggest which one to start with? ty!

@YoutubeCommenter1

4 жыл бұрын

Judo. It's more well rounded and athletic. All fights start in the feet

@OGFITNESS

4 жыл бұрын

I would suggest trying both of them for 2-4 weeks, one at a time the making ur decision. I started in bjj then transitioned to judo which is unsual. People tend to do the opposite because of judo takes a toll of the body.

@BTBVOY.

4 жыл бұрын

@@OGFITNESS thank you!

@BTBVOY.

4 жыл бұрын

@@KZreadCommenter1 thank you!

So if you're 25 and new to both but want to cross train which would you say you should start in? Also which one favours taller people?

@OGFITNESS

5 жыл бұрын

Both sports favor the taller man, and in my experience all combat sports favor the taller man as long as the taller man adapts the techniques and learns to use his reach, he then has a incredible advantage. I would start with Bjj, so you can strengthen up muscles, ligaments and tendons by getting use to grappling on the ground through pushing,pulling, rotating, bending, etc.. without the risk of falling. Then after 3-6 months, Judo time!!! Learning to fall safely would be your first priority in Judo. Osu!

@AeolethNionian

5 жыл бұрын

@@OGFITNESS Thanks! I've often heard that Judo was easier for shorter people because of the hip throws which are harder to do when your hips are at the other guys chest, but I never hear anything about that for bjj.

@OGFITNESS

5 жыл бұрын

Oh man, even if your tall and cant get your hips under, there is so many things you can do, already you can establish your grips from a distance, work on harai , tai, ouchi, kouchi, osoto, kosoto, it's like beating and kicking a soccer ball when you have size and reach advantage. And for Bjj? Imagine a fucking long anaconda versus a small ass grass snake, see what i mean? the advantage is huge, but once again for both sports you have to learn how use your size to your advantage, but once you do, damn, very hard to deal with.

@AeolethNionian

5 жыл бұрын

I'll definitly keep that in mind when I get going. Thanks a lot for the advice

@paulspector8220

5 жыл бұрын

With regards to judo favouring shorter people I'd say that it's all about the grips. Having a big tall guy dominate you with a high collar power grip certainly feels disadvantageous. Throws such as drop seoi nage do tend to work really well for shorter guys, but it really depends on the guy. I'm 5ft 9 and compete at under 100kg (I'm 218 pounds as the Americans would say) and I score with uchimata all the time, which is traditionally a tall man's throw. All grappling is fascinating.

Judo seems dangerous for older people?

I have had the opportunity to roll against judo guys several times. I didn't notice they were in a hurry. Maybe for the first few seconds but after that, not so much. They weren't hard to choke.

@gianttigerfilms

2 жыл бұрын

lol I bet you got thrown on your butt

Luta rivra (Brazilian catch wrestling), catch wrestling , shoot wrestling (Japanese catch wrestling with kicks and plam strikes) was problem for graices and Gjj is part bjj which had other founders

The comment about "not really a place for a 25-year old adult to join the sport of judo... " really depends on your town, dojo availability, and a lot of other things... In our town, my club and the two other judo clubs have a ton of adult men and women 25 and older joining on a regular basis... and enjoying! Only unless you happen upon a very competitive judo club that is only out to scout talent for future National team members and Olympians, does a judo club seem more apt for younger people... ALL adults should join judo, ESPECIALLY the BJJ guys (I have BJJ guys joining my club all the time to improve their standup and then they stay cause they love it!) Anyway my two cents! I talk about this at length on my judo channel as well...

I started judo at 38YO... It was hard.

Can you show videos where BJJ members participate in contests with judo or wrestling rules?

@OGFITNESS

11 ай бұрын

Id have to check see whats out there but generally bjj guys wont come into a judo or wrestling comp, generally they’d get their ass handed to them quick.

@mickmorrison

11 ай бұрын

@@OGFITNESS I’ve only practised traditional Jujitsu and learned the skills of self defence against attackers with or without weapons in the street. I know that I couldn’t compete against these guys on the tatami as that is what they are skilled at. What happens if they come against a person with a weapon?

after doing both bjj and judo, do you feel like a judo player and a bjj player could roll equally? or do you think the judo player would get tapped over and over again? (also: do you think judo has a complex ground game?)

@OGFITNESS

5 жыл бұрын

It would depend on the level of the judoka, at the national and international level the guys are have a very very solid ground game. From my experience they can whoop most bjj guys easily. But here were talking about high level athletes. Now at the lower level they tend to neglect the ground so once it hits the floor they arent as good and can be handled by intermidiate and advance bjj guys. All the techniques in bjj exist already in judo, judo just puts alot of emphasis on power and quick finished whereas bjj tends to work more slowly and focus on position, control and then submission. Bjj also is more fluid i find.

@stan2376

5 жыл бұрын

@@OGFITNESS thanks for the response, i am a bjj player but i was always very interested in judo because at the place where i train bjj sometimes arrive judo players looking to improve their ne waza and what i notice is that some of them feel like bjj purple belts and some (even if they are high level in judo) can't do anything on the ground. also when i search judo ne waza techniques on google i never seem to find alot. (sorry for possible bad english grammar i am not american)

@OGFITNESS

5 жыл бұрын

@@stan2376 no problem, ur english is fine , i understood everything

@dan8085

4 жыл бұрын

@@stan2376 You should definitely look into training judo!

@stan2376

4 жыл бұрын

@@dan8085 shortly after i made this post i made the switch to judo and i really love every aspect of it! it has become a total addiction.

I never saw it like that, thanks

@OGFITNESS

5 жыл бұрын

Glad it was insighful!

I'm 15 years old I already do muay thai so clinch is important anyways should I start bjj or judo (for self defence purposes not for competition). Or wrestling?

@cesaralvesdemoraes3187

4 жыл бұрын

If you are an american in school age definitely do wrestling. It's an amazing opportunity you have over there to learn this great sport that will also make tough and give you many skills that are essential to know in a fight. After that do jiujitsu to learn how to handle yourself from the bottom of a fight and how to finish fights with submissions. Also I recommend competition so you can learn how to perform under pressure, wich is a big thing if you ever need to defend yourself.

@xxxzzz9654

4 жыл бұрын

@@cesaralvesdemoraes3187 wish I was American for this but I'm British so a wrestling place is hard to find. Probably gonna for Judo. Thanks anyways.

@thatasianguy1768

4 жыл бұрын

Go Judo most of the time if you are in a clinch you could do Kouchi and Ouchi(outer or inner reap), and you can even do a hip throw(ogoshi) just from someone who did Judo when I was 26

@juyama7489

4 жыл бұрын

Between bjj or judo, you should start doing judo. It’s the more realistic of the two in self defence in my opinion. You have devastating throws. If somehow the person survives the throw, you’re trained to execute submissions quickly off the throw or trained to submit while pinning. The guard is encouraged as a last resort kind of thing in judo. Pulling guard brings the person in to ground and pound you. Even if you control the arms, the person can slam you with daki age. Honestly the difference in the groundwork of bjj and judo is that bjj loves to use the guard while in judo we don’t. If we end up in guard, it’s either we got thrown and this is our last chance of survival or we failed to do a good throw, which is telling us we’re lacking in technique. Being in the guard is like standing for us judo guys, but on the ground. The win isn’t decided yet but your next move from that position just might be your ticket to victory. You will almost never see a judoka in any guard other than butterfly or closed. They don’t plan on being there for long anyways. Maybe a slight chance of a spider guard sweep but that’s also rare. While bjj might be better for grappling only groundwork, it doesn’t translate as well into a real fight as judo. If you wanted to do bjj after doing judo it’s easier to transition to as compared to vice versa too according to my friends who have done either. As for the question of wrestling I’m not too sure because wrestling is less than popular where I’m from.

@dbalcita1331

4 жыл бұрын

@xxxzzz- I would suggest judo for clinch game. That is the range you use in judo👍

It’s always fascinating to see how a rule set effects a martial art. Martial arts really do evolve to conform to their rule sets. So, if you want to know what a martial art is like possibly the most relevant question is how do they complete.

@OGFITNESS

5 жыл бұрын

When competitions are setup for a martial arts, the schools will tend to train in order to fully capitalize on the rules of their sport.

i have been practicing GJJ/BJJ for two years, a 4 strips white belt. i am a small guy, do you think it will be better for me to learn Judo, in order to have a better understanding to be a all rounder grappler?

@BeachBeagleMomma

4 жыл бұрын

Chris Asher Ang Learn judo from a small teacher who can kick big guys’ asses. You need every advantage as small person in BJJ. The push/pull and gripping from judo are essential.

I train mma thai and bjj

Good stuff! Martial arts history is always interesting. 'Jiu' and 'Ju' are derived from the same Japanese character. 'Jutsu' or 'jitsu' means method or skill, while 'do' means 'way' or 'path'. The founder of Judo studied Jujutsu, then later termed it Judo because he thought that his art was more than a set of 'skills'.

@OGFITNESS

5 жыл бұрын

Yes i remember hearing the same thing. Very interesting all of this, the older i get the more fascinating it is to learn all the history behind the arts and history in general, its gives such a better view and understanding of how things came to be.

Like the Tao of jeet kune do t-shirt 👕. I miss the legend.

If dan severn actually knew how to ground and pound he would have cleaned out royce easily

Bjj is the best sport i have done in my life. What I like the most is that you can be Creative all the time, there are so many combinations, its simply beautiful to me

@OGFITNESS

4 жыл бұрын

it definitely changed my life, when i first discovered it i was in love.

@Marco-kn8rg

4 жыл бұрын

I am third degree purple belt and you are right about not doing almost any stand Up Game in bjj, I suck at It, always pull guard. I tried to learn many times but its too harmful for my screwed knees an shoulders. Thats what I like about bjj, there are so many games I can adapt mine to my injuries.

@Donky_Kongs_Baby

3 жыл бұрын

@@Marco-kn8rg sadly doesnt translate well to real life mma though it is a good art.

@Marco-kn8rg

3 жыл бұрын

@@Donky_Kongs_Baby I Don't Care about real life situations bro, never had a fight in my Life, and if I see myself in a fight one Day I still can take down easily 90% of the people, and once in the ground I can end it easily. The problem is if You fight Moré than One person, in that casé better run

@Donky_Kongs_Baby

3 жыл бұрын

@@Marco-kn8rg I have fought a few times due to my dad being a boxer and the military and I can 100% understand your point of view but I personally wished it had a few more applications in more realistic situations since I work a lot of dangerous jobs like TSA, Private Security, and the like since I greatly enjoyed it. Not saying it doesn't have any applications at all.

I like judo more for the sense of self defense. I'm not interested so much in the sport aspect of it.

I do mostly kodokan judo. But my school spends a lot of time on ne-waza as well. I really like both. But since I am a smaller dude, I do prefer rolling lol

@OGFITNESS

5 жыл бұрын

I enjoy both aspects, ne waza and tachi waza. But definitely size is a factor in martial arts and sports, i find smaller dudes need to focus highly on technique so that they can out maneuver the bigger stronger dudes. I consider myself a smaller dude, 5'8 at 155 lbs :)

I remember when I had to do drills with the Brazilian & poor guy was really scared to be thrown by me, I had to keep reminding him that I’m not going to hurt him, & to relax. It really sucks that they don’t teach those guys any tachiwaza whatsoever. 🤦🏻‍♂️

@OGFITNESS

4 жыл бұрын

lol

@pacibaco

3 жыл бұрын

Great point ... it’s all cool or fun., but the facts remain that most of us have jobs to return to that require us to be able to sit, walk , and bend . I’ve been immobilized for days which isn’t fun

@johnolson5482

Жыл бұрын

i feel like basic hip throws and ashi waza techniques should be taught in BJJ. some arent that difficult to learn.

Truth is Judo split into ground and standing throws divisions but ground still exist and that's Kosen which looks exactly like BJJ which makes a person think.

@OGFITNESS

5 жыл бұрын

Lol!!! That is what my Coach tells me all the time, and i have the same thoughts as you, Kosen (Old style Judo) is essentially Bjj but with different rules.

@rrt1592

5 жыл бұрын

O.G. FITNESS > Great explanation from the inside circle and I can't wait for another discussion of martial arts. Thanks!

@henrycaldwell4454

5 жыл бұрын

@@OGFITNESS kosen is not old style judo its a separate style that was created by students at certain universities. the founder Jigoro Kano didn't think was a good style.

@OGFITNESS

5 жыл бұрын

@@henrycaldwell4454 Really? Ok cool, i'll look into that, thanks Henry! I appreciate the correction.

@chrisgammel2046

5 жыл бұрын

Judo came from Jiu-Jitsu, which was spelled jujutsu but pronounced the same. Kano was a student of jujutsu. Jujutsu was a complete martial art but Kano preferred takedowns though and thought groundwork was not essential so when he started his teaching takedowns were highlighted. The ground fighting techniques have been around for ages though. Before bjj, before judo. But it was known as jujutsu. It’s true Maeda was a student of Kano but when he took the art to Brazil I am under the impression that he called what he taught jiu-jitsu instead of Judo. I believe this because he had more students than the Gracie’s and other lineages of bjj came from Maeda. They called the art Maeda taught them jiu-jitsu also. That makes me believe that Maeda taught the art by its original name which is jiu-jitsu. Luis França was a student of Maeda and Oswaldo Fadda is the most prominent student of França. Fadda owned a non Gracie lineage bjj academy. Guys like Bruno Malfacini and Rodolfo Vieira came from that lineage and are prominent non Gracie lineage bjj’ers. The point is, the art didn’t all come from Judo, Judo came from Jujutsu (Jiu-Jitsu) and great men such as Kano, Maeda, the Gracie’s, França, Fadda, and many more have taught their own style of Jiu-Jitsu. They can call it whatever they want... 10th planet Jiu-Jitsu, Marcelo Garcia Jiu-Jitsu, Machado Jiu-Jitsu, Gracie Jiu-Jitsu. Kano Jiu-Jitsu, or even Judo and Marcelo’s is not the same as Machado’s which isn’t the same as Gracie’s, which isn’t the same as 10th Planet, which isn’t the same as what Kano taught... But it’s all Jiu-Jitsu

It's simple, Judo is the father of Bjj

@OGFITNESS

Жыл бұрын

Agree

Judo seem to focus on throws and BJJ seem to focus on ground fighting.

@OGFITNESS

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly

Oss

there are plenty of bjj guys that transition to judo later in their career. keenan cornelius, along with practically all of the black belt competitors at atos now cross train in judo. several of my teammates have cross trained. one of my training partners, who just got his brown belt said he wants to make a big effort in learning judo soon. i think its more prevalent than you think. also your comment on building up olympic level judoka from kids is applied the same with bjj. there are no world champions at bjj that start at 25. not even at blue belt much less black belt lol. all the belt champions, at the colored belts to black, the world champion has been training since he/she was a child. seems like you're implying that a person who starts later in life, no way they can go to the olympics in judo, but somehow there's a place in bjj and they can become a world champion?

@OGFITNESS

4 жыл бұрын

cross training is more prevalent for sure, bjj guys taking up judo, but a complete switch like i did is usually more rare imo. Now its been awhile since i made this video so i don't remember exactly what i said but i do feel you have a better chance of becoming a world champ in bjj even if your started later in life because of a few things. Its on the ground so less chances of injuries, its also easier to learn techniques on the ground. Because the injuries tend to be less traumatic it allows you to easily work around them.Its not as hard on the body as Judo. Now that being said it gonna depend on a lot of factors, age, injuries, experience, time, athleticism, sparring partner, your coaches, etc... But i've known guys starting later in life who've become world champs. But i don't know any who started at like 25 and over in judo and went to the olympics. Just my opinion. Thanks for watching and commenting. You made some very interesting points. Osu!

@williamadamsbjj

4 жыл бұрын

O.G. FITNESS yeah for sure. i would agree with that. tbh i think theres just better overall training and competition in bjj where i live. high level judo is very limited here. inot to there isnt good clubs. but in 100 mile radius there might be like 3 amazing clubs how many world champions in adult division do you know of that started jiu jitsu as an adult? the only one i know of is claudia duval. josh hinger started as an adult and won nogi worlds 3 times, but he hasn't won in the gi. even at masters. i know in "theory" it should be easier. but if you have any insight lemme know. i totally may be missing someone or a bunch of people.

@williamadamsbjj

Жыл бұрын

​@@Pler1978 bro judo in this country is more fringe than bjj right now. not sure of your point.

10mins a match for a black belt 5 mins for a beginer white belt

In cage you barely see any ground technique, and especially takedowns, which is not found in Judo and not originated from it.

@OGFITNESS

Жыл бұрын

Have u seen the fighters from dagestan brother?

I took bjj classes my teacher said that I'm really impatient to get a submission. I found myself as agressive than passive.

@OGFITNESS

5 жыл бұрын

its good to be aggressive but not if you sacrifice control in order to go for the sub, with time you develop setups and timing, but when its time to go, its time to go so you gotta explode into it and finish. And aggressive means always attacking, not necessarily using too much strength, and if you are always attacking then your opponent is always defending so you are always 1-2-3 steps ahead. The best guys in the world are attackers.

Judo is an awesome and effective art.

@OGFITNESS

5 жыл бұрын

Welcome aboard, another Judoka possibly? Awesome :)

@ironmikehallowween

5 жыл бұрын

O.G. FITNESS No. I studied Hapkido, but the Judo techniques that are a part of our art, are very powerful and effective. In fact, when I rolled with some black belt jujitsu guys, they were very interested in some of those techniques, I guess because they had never encountered them before.

@OGFITNESS

5 жыл бұрын

Hapkido is very interesting, i remember a friend i had when i was practicing TKD, and he came from a hapkido background and this dude had moves. Very interesting martial art.

Only differences is one focuses on the ground more but they're pretty much just judo

@rudycuyno171

4 жыл бұрын

100% truth^^

I wanna see humans getting yeeted into the sky with a loud crash. Rolling on the ground with sweaty grunting dudes for 9+ minutes at a time is not my thing.

@OGFITNESS

4 жыл бұрын

lol

Judo is brute lol is that another lie:/ judo is technique nage waza iz about leverage & technique not just strength. ^^

I think the biggest thing that you are missing is that in north America bjj allows wrestling techniques, you get a lot of guys that wrestled in high school and college that end up in bjj so there are take downs in bjj that are not allowed in judo

Judo, brazil jj, gracie jj, american jj, will all be one art here soon. I got a feeling. Needs a new name tho. Any ideas? Cant be jujitsu has to be something new and snazy

Look@ pix of heilo hes not frail nore weak its a lie. Nore was he a small man thats another lie:/.

@OGFITNESS

4 жыл бұрын

hmmm.... never really thought of that. interesting, they try to portray him as such so as to prove the point that u dont have to be big and strong if u learn bjj.

Não entendo nada de inglês

Judo, Aikido and Brazilian Jiujitsu comes from Japanese Jiujitsu.

@OGFITNESS

11 ай бұрын

yup, thats right

Can you survive in the UFC without knowing any Judo? YES!!...CAN YOU SURVIVE IN THE UFC WITHOUT KNOWING ANY BJJ? NO!!what is left to talk about

@gianttigerfilms

2 жыл бұрын

can you survive ufc by only knowing Judo ground game? YES!

@manlyadvice1789

11 ай бұрын

We've been seeing a lot less bjj in the ufc as time has gone by. You do remember that the entire UFC was basically a Gracie informercial, right?

@cristobal9677

11 ай бұрын

@manlyadvice1789 Yes, but every fighter has to train it, pick a top fighter that does not train Bjj, go ahead I will wait....even Daniel Cormier is a black belt, he uses it only to avoid submissions...have perspective

Judo is still effective I don't understand the disrespect towards judo I respect judo and want to learn judo

@dansweetnam9098

4 жыл бұрын

Daryl Fields khabib, Rhonda rousey, yoshihiro akiyama, fedor, parisyan, and SO many more are all MMA world champions or champions, and they all have their bases in judo, obviously they had to learn things from other martial arts to round out their game, because there is no complete martial art. Given the fact that judo is learnt in a Gi and focuses on hard throws which represent a slam on concrete and these guys became champions in a sport where you fight without clothes and on MMA flooring which is a 3cm padded mat which totally misrepresents the power of judo on a hard surface and in clothes, which are the conditions all street fights happen under. Given all this and they are still dominating the martial arts world is evidence that judo is a monstrous martial art which deserves the highest of respect

If the Gracies modified Judo and made up and stole moves as it matured then Judo should still be part of the BJJ curriculum but why isn't it? Did the original brothers discard the judo they knew when teaching their snobby bully kids? 🤔

@OGFITNESS

5 жыл бұрын

If im not mistaken, Matsuya Maeda was a judoka that really enjoyed and was very proficient in ne-waza (ground technique), he taught the Gracies but at that point his judo was highly modified because he was using many illegal techniques from judo and was learning from wrestlers and other grapplers while he was running around fighting for money. And so his version of judo was very adapted to no rules prize fighting. Helio from my understanding was not physically gifted so he decided to adapt a lot of what Maeda( which was already adapted from judo) taught him so that the art can work for him, he was usually smaller and weaker then his opponents later on when he set out to test his skills. Check out this video about the story of Maeda when you have time, super interesting: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qKua2Kavcq_Soc4.html

@rdeloges7957

5 жыл бұрын

It IS STILL PART OF THE CURRICULUM. Arm/shoulder locks, RNC, guillotine, sweeps, trips, throws...there all in there from Combatives up to Blue Belt stripe 4. Some things are modified (for more control vs. speed), but it's basically just Pre-WW2 Judo.

@OGFITNESS

5 жыл бұрын

@@rdeloges7957 Alot of bjj schools now will just opt for wrestling takedowns instead of Judo takedowns, it carries over to mma and no gi better and its easier and faster to pick up. Judo is great but complicated af! Imo. Lol

@rdeloges7957

5 жыл бұрын

@@rrt1592 I switched to GJJ the last couple years because I got injured in Judo (I'm in my late 40s), but I have been healed up over a year now and I am thinking of getting back into a non-profit Judo club.

@rdeloges7957

5 жыл бұрын

@@OGFITNESS yes, I grew up wrestling and I still think the single and double leg takedowns are the most effective of all time, especially if your opponent doesn't REALLY know how to lock in a guillotine ( most untrained people just think it's like a reverse headlock). Having said that, closing the distance and getting the clinch to an ankle sweep/hook was probably the most energy efficient and standard for Gracie challenges (set up with the faux front kick).

MMA is the truth! Judo, BJJ, JJ, Aikido, Kung-fu and all these fake TMA Bullshido is the biggest shit! You guys waste your time.

If you were arrested and incarcerated today, say for defending yourself from a knockout game bigot, found yourself about to be jumped by three bigger predators in a small concrete and steel cell. No ones gonna save you, break it up or have your back. Which art would you rely upon most to engage your attackers whom aren't responding to verbal judo? Do you engage the trio w/Judo or w/BJJ?

the way you pronounce maeda is funny lol. being brazilian, many of my friends do bjj and teach me one thing or another. though i really like takedowns, i want to do wrestling or judo one day