Judas Priest v Iron Maiden | ENCORE | Martin Popoff Interview

My guest in this special encore episode of Battle of the Bands: Judas Priest v Iron Maiden is rock and metal historian, Martin Popoff.
Popoff has penned more than 110 books on rock and metal, including a dozen on Priest and Maiden, so who better to discuss the band’s rivalry than him?
We discuss Popoff’s journey in metal, his creative possess, when he discovered Maiden and Priest, Priest’s flirting with commercial sounds, the 1990 court case, why Maiden has been more commercially successful, his thoughts on the Ripper snub, latter day album releases, KK’s split with Priest, and which band he would choose if he could pick only one to listen to on a deserted island.
With that, here’s my conversation with the one and only Martin Popoff.
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  • @dustyadams5927
    @dustyadams59277 ай бұрын

    I think you mentioned Beyond The Realms Of Death as the song on question in the Priest trial . It was actually a Spooky Tooth cover Better By You Better Than Me that supposedly had subliminal messages . I thought this was common knowledge to Priest fans .

  • @INTOTHEPIT
    @INTOTHEPIT7 ай бұрын

    Oh wow i think painkiller is phenomenal and it has influenced countless bands after that. That tempo and beat still echoes in modern releases today.

  • @peterandrade3630
    @peterandrade3630 Жыл бұрын

    Maiden music was always quite solid, though it became rather formulaic after a while. But Eddie the character & the colorful, over-abundance of Maiden art work is what attracted newer generations of fans & kept people connected & tuned into the band. Like going through eye catching comic books. & then everyone waiting to see this character live on stage along with the high energy of Bruce running around. So, agreed, it is definitely the mystique of Eddie & merchandising that gave Maiden a leg up. Priest didn't have as much of that. But they have had a more varied and, overall, better catalog of music.

  • @ykmgeedee
    @ykmgeedee Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Selfishly speaking I'm glad that apparently Martin doesn't sleep as we're the beneficiaries of lots and lots of great content!

  • @zeraphking1407
    @zeraphking14078 ай бұрын

    Both is the correct answer.🤘

  • @iancocks9408
    @iancocks94088 ай бұрын

    Iron maiden were more limited musically, but within that they were excellent standard of music. Judas Priest more varied, but not quite as good standard as iron maiden. Both bands are legends of heavy metal, I love them both.

  • @mikelopez1430
    @mikelopez14307 ай бұрын

    I thought it was a cool single. I do laugh a bit at how much that opening synth melody sounds like the song from Fletch. Bringing back that Turbo Lover swoosh sound was a cool 80s call back.

  • @INTOTHEPIT
    @INTOTHEPIT7 ай бұрын

    Maiden have become a rock band …. Whereas Priest are still the definitive Heavy Metal band! Defenders of the Faith! Priest also never needed the merch and mascot hype. Lately Priest has also brought way better albums than Maiden. My answer? Rod Smallwood 😂

  • @TheGalinaAZ

    @TheGalinaAZ

    2 ай бұрын

    That right!!

  • @LzCoda
    @LzCoda3 ай бұрын

    I think the reason Maiden became more popular through the 2000s is because they became a "world-band." The "ra-ra-ra" of their lyrics, getting the crowd involved like it was a soccer match. This is especially true in South America and mainland Europe. But, in my opinion, Maiden stopped putting out great metal music. The albums were repetitive; too much "let's try Rime of the Ancient Mariner...again." (Sorry, Steve -- I love Maiden '80-'86. After that...not so much.) I think fans saw Priest as the band that was putting out better music. Maiden was selling more merch (who doesn't love Eddie) and tickets around the world, but I think Priest was putting out better music.

  • @rodneybrimer5171
    @rodneybrimer51712 ай бұрын

    It’s all about the music! For me it’s no contest. Judas Priest 🔥

  • @JonMallek
    @JonMallek2 ай бұрын

    Stop this silliness, the answer is always Priest!

  • @andrearruda7871
    @andrearruda78717 ай бұрын

    Very good comments. I'm not neutral on this matter. Maybe I like 10-12 maiden songs, of so. IM would not be half their size without the Eddie thing. Their marketing is a big case of sucess while Priest was a complete washout. Priest, for instance, got into web very late and lack their identity/brand. I could write an article about this, but two factors I don't like im Maiden: bruce's voice and their music is not heavy. There are two BIG branches in metal's tree: one is Sabbath, which is a bluesy originated; the other one is grown by Deep Purple, folkish and very, very "straight", not groovy. All the power metal bands like Blind Guardian, helloween etc come from that "whitey" branch, which Maiden is the big fruit. My 2wo long cents ;-)

  • @kennyunderwood3602
    @kennyunderwood36026 ай бұрын

    priest wins.....not even close.....better singer...better songs....better guitar players.....just better....i love maiden,but there it is.

  • @CycoSven69

    @CycoSven69

    3 ай бұрын

    Not a chance. Judas Priest must be the most overrated band in metal.

  • @TheGalinaAZ

    @TheGalinaAZ

    2 ай бұрын

    Agree to

  • @Captain_Rhodes
    @Captain_RhodesАй бұрын

    Priest were much more versatile and interesting. I like Iron maiden but they rarely surprised me. They have their sound and its great. But Priest could do anything from ballads to pop to blues to intense metal. Halford was the better singer too.

  • @Dragonface013
    @Dragonface01311 ай бұрын

    I'm sorry, but I have to VEHEMENTLY disagree with Martin on one point: The X Factor and (to a lesser extent) Virtual XI blow Juggulator and Demolition out of the water! I feel like no one gives those two albums a chance, but The X Factor especially is actually a pretty damn solid record, and I had hoped someone like Martin would have been able to see that... :'( Oh well. Other than that: I really enjoyed this conversation! :)

  • @JCStorm76

    @JCStorm76

    11 ай бұрын

    Much better I agree

  • @chriswoosley1697

    @chriswoosley1697

    8 ай бұрын

    blaze era sux ass......angel and the gambler,i rest my case ...worst song in rock history....period

  • @INTOTHEPIT

    @INTOTHEPIT

    7 ай бұрын

    You must be kidding! 😮 jesus those two Maidens are unlistenable!

  • @Dragonface013

    @Dragonface013

    7 ай бұрын

    "Unlistenable"? That's a bit of an exaggeration, don't you think? Even if you don't like them, they're not especially "bad". The Angel and the Gambler is probably Maiden's worst song I agree, but other than that: nothing on either of those records is really any worse than the worst of No Prayer For The Dying or Fear of the Dark. I find those albums (particularly The X Factor) work best for me when I try listening to them not as Maiden albums, but just for what they are.

  • @kennyunderwood3602

    @kennyunderwood3602

    6 ай бұрын

    i agree....i own them because im a collector.....but cant listen to them.....yuck!!@@INTOTHEPIT

  • @pjones8404
    @pjones84049 ай бұрын

    Here is the thing about both bands. The band "Halford" was by far more enjoyable than anything that Priest has done since Rob returned. "Resurrection" was a masterpiece! I rank it right there with "Hell Bent for Leather" and "Stained Class". "Crucible" was a brilliant follow up. I haven't been impressed by anything since "Angel of Retribution." Same deal with Iron Maiden. "Accident of Birth", "The Chemical Wedding" and "Tyranny of Souls" are spectacular albums and to me, outclass anything Maiden has done since "Brave New World". So, each singer, in my opinion, was reaching much higher levels of creativity and performance wise then the work they did upon returning to their original bands. Iron Maiden however, really took off after Bruce returned and outside the United States, they became the biggest metal band on the planet. Priest...they have never been able to the heights they did from "British Steel" to "Defenders of the Faith".

  • @INTOTHEPIT

    @INTOTHEPIT

    7 ай бұрын

    Bruces solo stuff is way better than any Maiden album since 7th

  • @tonabnehmer9407

    @tonabnehmer9407

    7 ай бұрын

    I can agree with the exception of Resurrection, it's good but not that good... Crucible is indeed an absulute masterpiece!

  • @MetalManiac1911
    @MetalManiac19117 ай бұрын

    Trash take on Painkiller bro.

  • @DukeHard
    @DukeHard3 ай бұрын

    Silly.

  • @thethings4708
    @thethings4708 Жыл бұрын

    Good video, BUT sorry when they said maiden never really "reinvented" the sound of music like Priest ??? C' mon ! The first album have a punk sound that true and Killer album was different , Beast was different, Piece of mind was when they fing her "sound". Somewhere in time the first really dig in "progressive sound". And since Dickinson was back in 2000 , each album was more and more metal, prog , long, and epic. Maiden was THE band who probably have more influence on musicien since Led Zepplin. Just no comparaison in both band, and Maiden have a way more distinctive and unique sound. Priest seems just lost between Rock and metal ( special to have to listening at her show ; Painkiller and after that was living after midnight... OR Freewheel burning , and after that "Johny b good"... VERY special... So priest way least "prodigious and full sound". And live they have a good period ( not impressive, but good ). Maiden live was just on another planet, they play almost better then the studio album , thight, interaction with the crowd UNPRECEDENT... it's like a world cup each time . No maiden , no Metallica, no power metal, and the list goes on ... For the brave new world tour : Rob Halford hopening for them with Mothorhead, Dio and Alice Cooper ( depend on where you are ...). I think the point was just made here...

  • @felixalonsodepablo7943

    @felixalonsodepablo7943

    8 ай бұрын

    I respect your opinion....but I don't agree at all. To begin with, Priest starts much earlier and its evolution is much more extreme than that of Maiden. Their albums are simply much more varied. I think that the first stage of Maiden is very very good but after Brave New World their albums bore me, they are very repetitive and seem long and uninteresting. Regarding the musical quality...well, what do you want me to say...I think Priest's guitarists are so. noticeably more technical (or they were...sadly Tipton has Parkinson's now but he's been a much better guitarist than anyone in Maiden...I play guitar and it's just a fact). I love both bands but if I had to choose one I'm very clear. This doesn't mean that I don't appreciate the quality of Iron Maiden...they have given me a lot of good times and they are one of my favorite bands along with Sabbath and Priest, they are the holy grail of Heavy Metal.

  • @thethings4708

    @thethings4708

    8 ай бұрын

    @@felixalonsodepablo7943 AGREE to NOT agree ... I am fan of Maiden AND Priest from 1980... VERY Honestly , since 1980 ( except Scream for vengance and Painkiller... Maybe Firepower...) Judas Priest have done NOTHING good... And THAT`S my friend IT IS BORING. For MAiden , i love almost ALL of there albums ( except No Prayer for the dying and fear of the dark are half good ... and ``Virtual`` who was almost a ``CAR CRASH`` and very CRAP...). So, all ``classic`` Maiden are WAY better and far from Priest quality and innovation... ( no ``breaking the law``). MORE than that , since the return of Bruce , in my view the quality of there albums are BIG step UP ... Epic Prog Metal song... NOTHING boring in that ( except if you`re ``thrill`` are breaking or living after or Johnny B Good... C`MON !!! ). At least the 5 last album of Maiden are MASTERPIECE... Long song with MANY tempo changes ... : REAL PROG METAL... MAybe just to ``SOTFISTICATE`` for you`re level ... just saying . So, like you see ; irespect your opinion too, BUT i am not agree too... 😂😅

  • @kennyunderwood3602

    @kennyunderwood3602

    6 ай бұрын

    disagree....i can put on saxon...diamondhead...even scorpions and thin lizzy and maiden has that sound...some great songs and some crappy songs but not a new sound at all.....one note of priest guitars and you know its priest.

  • @thethings4708

    @thethings4708

    6 ай бұрын

    @@kennyunderwood3602 agree to not agree... i like Priest VERY much ( see them live about at least 20 times... BUT man , the priest sound in the 70s was HORRIBLE... especially the guitar tone ... many guy in the 70s changed the sound of guitar ( and make ther band sound unique...) BUT Priest was NOT one of them ... Guys like : Tomy Iommy... Ritchie Blackmore... Jimmy Page... Angust Young...Brian May... and late 70s came more variety of heavy stuff based on Sabbath most of time : Mothorhead... have ther sound ... Venom have ther sound... Iron Maiden have ther sound... NOT SO MUCH PRIEST... sorry to break your heart my friend ! 😅

  • @chriswoosley1697
    @chriswoosley16978 ай бұрын

    i agree with Martin,Painkiller lyrics are hysterical..that whole album is too cliche,...never play it,...gimme 76-79 anyday

  • @CycoSven69

    @CycoSven69

    3 ай бұрын

    Painkiller is just Judas Priest trying to sound like thrash bands.

  • @chriswoosley1697

    @chriswoosley1697

    3 ай бұрын

    @@CycoSven69 yep,its a pretty cheesy album

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